Diebold Electronic Voting cost Senator Barack Obama

Has anybody had a room (sunroom, family room, etc) built onto their home recently? If so, will you please refer me to your contractor, or tell me what contractors to avoid? I would greatly appreciate it.

Cal, something is going on here thats causing problems for lots of your regular posters, Hack can't post, sniffles is up to #4 now and even the nitpicker is on his second name.

Once again the Navy pulls the Air Forces chestnuts out of the fire...

For Muddle:

Muddle, thanks for valuing my opinion enough to ask me this question concerning opposition to torture. Speaking only for myself, my opposition to torture of anyone (US citizens in the penal system, gang members, uniformed and non uniformed combatants, etc) is based on two principles: The inherent since of right and wrong, and the golden rule of "do unto others." First, the fundamental sense of right versus wrong: When we inflict physical pain on someone to attempt to coerce information, to gain retaliation, or to send a "signal" in attempts to intimidate a certain group (as radical Sunni and Shiites have been treating one another in Iraq), we lose our humanity; both the torturer and torturee. We devalue life. It is a very slippery slope that, in other cultures, has devolved into harsher and harsher forms of torture (reference Jeff C's links), torturing of family members or friends if a subject is personally able to withstand extreme amounts of pain, and more less imaginable atrocities. Much of the pride behind my cheesy grin when I hear the National Anthem, Reveille in the morning, or Taps at night, has to do with the fact that I feel the U.S. is a special nation with a love for freedom and life itself that is rare in the world. I believe we have no true idea of how insidiously we can lose these high moral standards. And I fear our national policies in this area may have sacrificed much more of this moral high ground than we are aware of.

John Thompson and John Munford must have broke something in the studio today because the audio portion wasn't working right when Kevin and I got in there to do the Blitz. Then, halfway through recording, the camera pooped out.

Great article by Walter E. Williams -

the talkers on here into a few categories.

We have the disinterested group---care nothing about problems.

We have the leave it like it is group, worrying about more people coming and who they are!

A good friend who is very intelligent and perceptive wrote this:

"I think any religion has its heroes which were overblown, lied about or simply fictitious. Until the human race starts accepting responsibility for its own actions and not relying on a supreme being for guidance, we will continue to wallow in the mud of the past. Quite frankly, I think all religion sucks…poisons the brain with myths, lies and absurdities. Why humans haven’t been able to get by this is due to the fact that we in general are products or our culture and the only way to eliminate the fallacies intertwined is through education…particularly science…….Facts… not Fictions "

First Jeffc, I would like to thank you for keeping the FairTax in the discussion. As you are congratulating yourself on how clever you are, you need to realize that these attack items have been around for years. You are not the first to “uncover” “flaws” in the FairTax legislation. These concerns have been answered many times over. In fact, most of us that support the FairTax had some of these same concerns as we first heard of the plan. We studied in more detail about the structure of the overall concept and realize that, although it is not perfect, it is an extremely well designed and sound replacement for the current income tax system.

John the farmer was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called "pullets", and ten roosters, whose job it was to fertilize the eggs.

With the sad news of Ms Emerson's both untimely and totally unnecessary demise I, for one, consider the time appropriate for some real deterence to those who willfully prey upon others. Consider that if the punishment truly could equal the crime, less instances of these horrific crimes would occur.

Starbucks and Krispy Kreme fired their CEOs.
Did cops quit drinking?
People eat more beans and water when in a recession!

These people have now been accused of having thousands of con artists on their expense accounts to sell poor and bogus loans to simple people.

There are now three extra charges on a pizza ordered for delivery.
Three medium pizzas base cost = $7.00 each, equal $21, plus a $1.50 delivery charge, plus a tip of $3.00, makes the pizzas cost $25.50, or $8.50 per medium pizza.

It is calculated sneakily!
When a $1.00 item is sold it rings uyp as $1.23, then the 23% tax is applied to the $1.23. making the tax $.28.

Did anyone attend the FairTax Rally Saturday? I think all the FairTaxer’s are mad at me for raining on their parade with my posts:

The Daily Citizen is so 2007.

In its place are five new programs - all clocking in at under 10 minutes.

Mondays - The Ben Show - South Fulton editor Ben Nelms tackles a variety of topics each week. This is a show that will make you go HMMMM.

I have been watching too much basketball and football lately.
I "focus" on what we suppose tuh do to much. You know, I mean!

Will take a few years to pass since all 50 states and all of congress have to vote a change.
What change you say? The big sales tax change needed when we vote out the US Internal Revenue service!

Sure takes awhile to wade through all their simpleton problems!
Reckon we could ID them so as to pass over them easily?

I'm haven't gotten there yet, but know several who have.
Too Clos

You can’t limit an Audit if there’s corruption in the government. There’s no telling what’s gone on in Tyrone over the last decade. Just yesterday its come to light that Barry Amos spent an estimated $30,000 for a state of the art communication system for Town Hall in late 2006. That comes straight from the installer. He said Barry made decisions on the spot without concern for costs; and that was the 3rd system he had installed at Town Hall. Many questions must be answered. Who approved it? Council? Barry? The bid system limits purchases without authorization to $500 for incidentals. Where is it reflected in the 2006-07 budget? Why were some Tyrone businesses never called to bid on purchases? Why did Barry refuse to OK an updated phone system for the Police Dept? What was the necessity for such an expensive system. Can Smola, Lee, Letourneau and Valerie enlighten the citizens? Should not those 4 be questioned in connection with the Audit? Will the Town be liable for any wrong doing? Can the Town recoup unauthorized losses directly from guilty officials? Are there some revealing answers as to why there was so much secrecy at Town Hall? Let’s get that audit with subpoena powers going ASAP!

It is Barack Obama surely, and Mike Huckabee.

Obama will eventually be President!

We are in such horrible condition for the future that someone is needed who doesn't give a hoot for past methods and people in Washington to straighten our government out for us.

Nothing Racist or Segregationist about this. No, not at all.

The black elite: Who's in? Who's out? Who cares?

Meredith Emerson is a missing 24 year old hiker that was last seen on the Applachian Trail. She has been missing since New Year's Day. The family, her friends and Meredith desperately need all the prayers they can get. Please keep them in your thoughts as you go throughout the day.

America is in deep trouble. How did we get into this mess?

Consider the following highlights of the legacy we are receiving from this disgraced president:

The aristocracy may be out in Tyrone. Unfortunately they've been replaced by the idiotcracy.

They weren't even sworn into office before they broke their first campaign promises (open government, remember?).

"Attorneys for disgraced political donor Norman Hsu had asked Judge Stephen Hall to dismiss his 1992 no-contest plea, saying Hsu's right to a speedy trial was violated because authorities were not actively pursuing him during his years as a fugitive."

If this happens I think I'm moving to Canada

One agenda promise I made was to propose a PTC Forum or run my own Forum for issues if that failed to pass.

I made the proposal on the January 3rd Council Meeting and due to some lack of knowledge and questions by some Council Members, a final vote has been postponed until a later date.