Liquor Stores in FayCo.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 7:52pm
By: gratefuldoc

Why is it that we have to drive clear across the county to PTC just to go to a Liquor Store??? It's almost 2010 folks...this is frickin' ridiculous!!! i often ask myself, "Where the *bleep* do I live!!!" Come onnnnn.....

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Submitted by longhair09 on Sat, 02/27/2010 - 2:53pm.

There are no stores outside PTC because PTC is more likely to support drinking based on its population. If other cities wanted stores they would have them. If we are to live in communities we must bow to the majority on what is acceptable or not acceptable. Like California having stores selling the Ganja, that's what they want and support. If PTC drew from a more liberal minded population we would have the Ganja shops here, probably not open on Sunday.

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Submitted by bassfishga on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 11:30pm.

Well for me I quit drinking years ago and have no problem with people who do. I would just stock on saturday. If that plan fell though head to the nearest Army base stock up and head back home to chill and grill with friends. I never understood you can go to a bar get drunk and try to drive home but can't go to the store come back home and drink. Not driving until Monday. As far no Liquor store in Fayetteville maybe they think it will help keep some extra rifraf away?

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 8:27pm.

I don't see anywhere in the original post where the topic was Sunday Sales. It seems to me that the original topic was why are all the liquor stores in Fayette County in PTC. If this is the topic my suggestion would be to move if it means that much to you.

As for Sunday sales of alcohol, you'd be surprised to learn that one of the lobbies that is fighting Sunday sales is none other than liquor stores themselves! Why you ask? It's a business decision. For convenience/grocery stores Sunday sales would be great as they are already open and would not suffer any increase in expense to sell the product. Liquor stores would have to open an extra day to compete for alcohol sales. They make more money forcing you to stock up on Saturday and closing Sunday. It's not all the Baptist folks.

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 11:29pm.

The liquor industry is opposed to a Sunday sales bill that ONLY allows beer and wine sales and still prohibits liquor. What they have long wanted is the ability to sell beer-wine-liquor on Sunday. Liquor is much more profitable than beer sales and they don't want to have to open on Sunday and "rope off" all their liquor inventory and be only able to sell beer.

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Submitted by Gene61 on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 11:31am.

Simply get your beer or whatever before Sunday, its really quite simple. As for the blame it on the " Bapist " comments, get a life. Nothing wrong with having 1 day in a week that limits the sale of such spirts. Surely most people with common sense can say to themselves, better stop by to the store before Sunday and pick up that six pack ".

Next thing will be the full scale rising up against stop signs, stop lights and speed limits..

Its almost funny to read all the *itchin about this..

Submitted by Spyglass on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 1:33pm.

but that's nothing new.

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 1:20pm.

Of course you can buy in advance any other day of the week. That's not the point. You can buy anything else on Sunday(or its the merchants choice whether to open or not), so why not beer/booze/whatever? You can also buy it by-the-drink in restaurants, sports stadiums, etc. What's wrong with letting local municipalities decide this issue?

It IS a Baptist and freedom from religion issue as you don't see archaic blue laws like this outside of the Bible Belt. Oxendine is dead-set against it because he calls it the "Lord's Day" and Perdue was bombarded by southern baptists to never allow the issue to come to vote. That's your standard Repubs towing whatever line the religious hard-right throws at them and the opposite of "limited government." When the state mandates laws designed to take away citizens and local municipalities' choices, that makes a mockery of limited government or non-interference by government.

Submitted by sevets2000 on Fri, 02/26/2010 - 3:14pm.

Actually, you do see blue laws outside the Bible Belt - there are 14 states that do not allow liquor sales on Sunday and three (Georgia, Connecticut and Indiana) that do not allow liquor, beer or wine sales on Sunday. I agree with you, though, that that Georgia should move into the 21st century on this one.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Fri, 02/26/2010 - 5:01pm.

A vote, just a vote, that's all we ask. And then we'll all have to be satisfied with the results, no matter what they may be.

Submitted by Spyglass on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 1:34pm.

Concise and to the point...

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Submitted by matt.barnes on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 12:44pm.

You're right. It's not that hard to plan ahead. Mostly this law is just annoying but its also really stupid. A long time ago I read an article where Sonny Purdue defended this law by saying something along the lines of:

"Everyday X amount of people are killed by drunk drivers and if we restrict Alcohol just one day per week we can prevent X amount of deaths every Sunday"

The reason I think that stupid is because this law does nothing to prevent drunk driving. It does the opposite. By not allowing people to buy alcohol at a store on Sunday while at the same time allowing people to purchase alcohol in a bar you increase the likelihood that some a$$hole will drive to a bar get wasted in the MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON and then drive home drunk. How does that save lives?

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 12:02pm.

The real issue here is that the Govenor refuses to allow citizens to vote on Sunday sales. Regardless of his reason, it's wrong for him to deny us that opportunity. But it fits in nicely with the rest of his pablum textured tenure. What a disappointment.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 2:14pm.

Agreed Gym, the real issue is not allowing citizens the opportunity to vote on the issue. Personally, I do not drink alcoholic beverages any longer, however, it may just be a Sunday when I change my mind about that.

It's not easy being the carbonunit

Submitted by BenAthar on Tue, 12/29/2009 - 9:41pm.

After coming back to Ga from several year absence I can now see why I had left in the first place. I'm not a big fan of Sunday closures in way too many things. You'd thought it was still a time of the civil war. I work on Sundays because it's usually quite until church gets out. Yet those same people who go to church on Sunday's are the ones, behind closed doors engage in many things not brought up in public. Sort of like repenting to cover their sins for later on in the day!
Yet most of the resident's in PTC are not from Ga and find it hard to deal with the Sunday roll up of the sidewalks during the day. I can't blame them, but I manage with making sure I have plenty for Sunday or I homebrew. Kind of makes you wonder if there is a seperation of church and state, but you never know.

Submitted by longhair09 on Sat, 12/12/2009 - 8:06am.

For some it is a matter of their way is right and if you have a different idea then you must be wrong. Some strongly believe that Sunday is a church day for them so it must be for everyone. They can not compromise for to do that negates their beliefs. Other do compromise and accept others choices they are sometimes thought of as situational ethicist. Perhaps they plan to pull the get out of hell card at the 11th hour by repenting and all will be righteous.

Others through thoughtful analysis conclude that they do not want certain actions to take place in their sphere of influence and band together to ensure that their rights under a nation of laws protects their sphere of influence. Under this until more ideas that disagree with their analysis establish more influence in that sphere it will remain. Once the majority within that sphere want it changed it will change and those that can no longer abide in that sphere will move or tolerate.

Submitted by RKS on Fri, 12/04/2009 - 7:12pm.

You got liquor stores in Riverdale.....aka, North Fayetteville.

Submitted by jokerman on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 5:51pm.

Instead of moving to a new place and trying to change what has existed there for a hundred years, why not move to some other place where they have what you want? Not everybody shares your opinions.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:10am.

LOL ... I'm sure similar comments were made in support of slavery.

The bumpkin fear of the unfamiliar never disappoints. I know, jokerman, bless my baby heart. Isn't that niiiiiiice.

MusTARD's good on 'em to you.

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Submitted by SPQR on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 8:35am.

It helps to think of it as a watered down Sharia type mentality peculiar to the U.S.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 8:18am.

It's the same mindset that makes it illegal for you to buy a bottle of wine on Sunday!

Submitted by 30YearResident on Fri, 01/15/2010 - 11:38am.

Did you realize that "non-alcholic" beer is treated the same as regular beer according to these laws?

You can't buy an O'Douls on Sunday, but you can buy Listerine.

Submitted by Spyglass on Fri, 01/15/2010 - 2:18pm.

in it..not much...but that is the reason it can't be sold.

That said, the law is STUPID at best. Believe it or not, the Liquor Store owners and their Lobby like it, it gives them a day off....

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Fri, 01/15/2010 - 1:49pm.

Gov. Perdue showed what a fine Republican he is by killing the Sunday Alcohol bill under the guise of "I know what is best for you damn heathens and you will have no say. I gots me lots of money from these Baptists, OK?"

What do you expect from a guy who is a convert to a political party that lies about limited government enough to get elected so they can immediately throw the weight of government right on your doorstep? Perdue likely converted from Dem to Repub so he'd have the best chance of imposing his views on everyone else, just like the good politician he is. "Whoa...GA is going Repub, better jump on board right now and I also get to dictate under the ruse of God a lot more. WIN"

Submitted by Xiphosura on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 5:59pm.

I partly solved the problem by moving out of Fayette County to Newton County where there are many liquor stores, although shamefully not open on Sunday. Here's a big raspberry to Sonny Perdue for trying to force his hypocritical religious beliefs on the rest of us.

We also have numerous tattoo parlors here so here's also a big raspberry to nanny state PTC for persecuting these businesses.

And, yes, these are areas in Newton County just as nice or nicer than Fayette.

Submitted by jokerman on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 5:53pm.

Once the Sunday law falls, then some people will start complaining about why you can't buy it after midnight. Blah, blah, blah.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:14am.

Hehe ...Boy, there's some thinkin'!

Submitted by MYTMITE on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 9:40am.

almost nothing open on Sunday. No grocery stores open- buy your groceries along with your booze on Saturday. No service stations or repair shops open on Sunday--fill up on Saturday while getting those tires changed or that engine checked out. No Wal-mart, Target, BestBuy open on Sunday--get all those bargains on Saturday before the sun goes down. Everything closed except for a few restaurants where you could go for lunch or supper after church. Take those long family Sunday drives on those almost empty roads. After all if businesses were open someone who had a few beers at home from their stash might cause an accident on his way to shopping euphoria. This is the way it was in the not too distant past. Could we do it again? Would we stand for things to be that way again? Just wondering?

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Submitted by gratefuldoc on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 10:34am.

A)it has nothing to do with Sunday sales, although that silly law is equally as ridiculous as having to drive across the county to purchase a bottle o' rum.

B) I, along with most who are reading this I beleive, are not such raging alcoholics as to have to horde our alcohol on Saturday in case we might run out on Sunday...or any day for that matter. It would just be nice if guests happen to unexpectedly call and or show up on Sunday afternoon or on any day or night to not have to drive all the way to PTC for a bottle of wine.

C)what the H are people so afraid of around if there aren't already problems do you honestly think that having a liquor store in a part of the county other than in PTC is going to flush this place down the tubes. Get your heads out of the sand....take a look to areas outside of here (and I don't mean Clayton or S. Fulton). It's kind of, in my eyes, the same type of backward A** mentality that is so afraid of having some kind of commuter option available here. It's very frustrating and part of the reason why no major corporations, large law or accounting firms or 'upscale' eateries, stores or supermarkets are coming here.....let's not get stuck in the "good ol' days" type of mindset and get a little....dare I say Progressive or at least pro active in this community before it's too late.

"once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right"
"listen to the thunder shouting, "I AM, I AM, I AM"

;>} Have a grateful day ;>}

Submitted by normal on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 10:53am.

if guests happen to unexpectedly call and or show up on Sunday afternoon or on any day or night to not have to drive all the way to PTC for a bottle of wine.

Why do you have to give your guests drugs, If they wont visit unless you drug them then they should stay away. Guess I dont get why you all need to drug your minds and bodies. What a great way to show your kids how to live. Always have a drink in your hand. I am so proud of you parents. How many of you drank all day Thanksgiving, and you will on Christmas, how sad for your children. Remember if anyone has a problem with what I just said, you must be one that I am talking about. Truth really hurts

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 12/01/2009 - 6:12am.

I kinda agree with you about running out of liquor on Sunday, but I have discovered the solution to that problem.
I buy booze by the case, that way I don't run out because when I get down to two bottles in any case I go and buy another case. You know one of bourbon, one of vodka, one of gin, etc.
As to beer and mixers, same thing. Got an extra small fridge for that.

I figured out those dudes who don't want any alcohol sales on Sunday a long time ago. Many of them are descendents' of bootleggers who operated in areas where no booze was available, especially on Sunday---a big sales day.
It is similar to sinning all week but not on Sunday. All used car salesmen and bartenders go to Sunday school, you know. Most politicians go on Easter and Christmas.

As Tiger said yesterday, "I am just human and make mistakes," I made a bogey one time. My wife is good with that metal driver!

Submitted by Spyglass on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 6:28pm.

in the dumbest posts I've seen on this site...possibly top 5.

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Submitted by muddle on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 9:38pm.

You mean, right up there with "BPR" and "Lily"?

Wait. Come to think of it....

Submitted by MYTMITE on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 9:04pm.

a stupor---and today I am of little use to anyone? Please, tell me, am I a hopeless addict? Do I need to get me to a clinic? I need to know as the Christmas season is upon us and I will probably over indulge on Ham (even though I must admit Turkey is a stronger drug) and I will probably have a glass or two of eggnog. Especially since I will be in South Florida and will imbibe Farm Stores eggnog. Unless you have ever had Farm Stores eggnog you will not know what I am talking about. It is so rich and thick you can hear your arteries clogging and calling out for help as you take your first sip. Wise people take two sips and call it quits--I on the other hand usually have almost a full glass after which I fall into yet another stupor, filled with remorse and to be honest just a little sick to my stomach--from both the eggnog and the fact that I lack the will power to say no. What a terrible example I have set for my children--even though I must admit they have not followed in my footsteps and never touch the stuff--so I cannot even use the excuse that I have bought it for them--- Is there help for me or much I look forward to a life of addiction and degredation??

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 6:48pm.

I'm out of words to describe the stupidity of that post. Of course, I am under the influence of a drug as I type this(caffeine) so maybe that has warped my perception of just how damn dumb that post is.

Submitted by Bonkers on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 6:48am.

So-called "egg-nog" is horrid stuff to begin with. Invented by hypocrits to coverup excessive drinking.

But to post such weird dribble can only mean that the "nog" part was left out and only the bourbon was (being) drank.

Submitted by MYTMITE on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 12:38pm.

a lot for me. So, you can see that I am in no way an alcoholic. I think what I would object to more than anything else is the skewed reasoning given for not being able to buy alcohol on Sunday. Let's face it--it is a religious reason and nothing else. The one's for keeping a ban on Sunday sales quote statistics--well, are you any more dead or hurt if your accident occurs during the week? I remember when stores were closed on Sunday and the uproar when they started opening. The first one I remember opening on Sunday was Winn Dixie and there were those that said they would never enter those doors. Well, now just about everyone grocery shops on Sunday. In fact, if you want to avoid a crowd you shop before church is over. Why is it okay to go to a football game and get soused and get out on the streets and endanger others? Why can you go into a restaurant and have as many drinks as you choose and get on the streets and drive? Is it because they have better lobbies? I would think it would be safer for someone to sit in their home and drink, if they find it necessary to drink at all, than to go out to some venue and drink and get on the roads. As for myself, if I found it necessary to have alcohol in my home I would procure it before Sunday, if it was not available on that day, as I did with groceries and gas when they, too were not available on Sunday. What I abhor is the hypocritical reasoning given. Let's just be honest. And, Normal, not everyone who has a drink occasionally is an alcoholic just as someone who has desert occasionally is not a sweetaholic. Moderation in all things seems to be the key.

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Submitted by gratefuldoc on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 12:28pm.

IMHO...I believe you've got some issues to deal with. Just sayin'...
It's called being a good host/hostess....being cordial etc. No one is forcing drugs and/or alcohol on anyone. And for the record...I did have a couple drinks on Thanksgiving...don't really celebrate Chrismas (!?!?....)

"once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right"
"listen to the thunder shouting, "I AM, I AM, I AM"

;>} Have a grateful day ;>}

Submitted by normal on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 5:16pm.

Everyone has issues, I just dont think being cordial and being a good host/hostess means providing a drug to consume. Try it sometime. You might find out those so called friends dont stop by anymore if you dont provide drinks for them. You will then learn who your real friends are. And thank you, I will have a grateful day

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Submitted by bassfishga on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 11:55pm.

I agree when you supply for friends they will come. When you stop drinking they stop coming. Then they stop inviting you over. I know first hand.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:17am.

Let's just have coffee and conversation.


(That's a dig, vato.)

Submitted by PTC Avenger on Tue, 12/01/2009 - 3:05pm.

You're wrong, not everyone has issues. For some people life is full of bliss, joy, and macaroni salad. Just because you have things to deal with doesn't mean everyone else does too. So what was it? Daddy had boundary issues? Mommy was sleeping around, neglecting you in the process? You lost a loved one in an alcohol related accident? I don't drink, but a lot of my friends and associates do. They are successful, productive members of society. For you to insinuate that all people who drink are somehow alcoholics is beyond preposterous. Maybe we should just ban it again *rolls eyes*

In the meantime, get off your high horse and pour yourself a stiff one because you need to lighten up.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 10:46am.

Doc, it's been a while.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by gratefuldoc on Fri, 11/27/2009 - 12:18pm.

It has...thanks for noticing. Hope yo're well and had a nice Thanksgiving. Seems like the wackos are still out there...

"once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right"
"listen to the thunder shouting, "I AM, I AM, I AM"

;>} Have a grateful day ;>}

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