OPINION – The Great Divide: I don't trust the government

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On healthcare, I’m just one of the ‘mob’

My laborious page-by-page reading and opining on the 1,000-plus-page House healthcare bill has been rendered moot by events and my slow reading pace.

It’s now obvious that HR3200 is dead on arrival and likely will never get to even a vote in the House of Representatives.

What happened?

“Mobs” of us unwashed but brainwashed but mindless undisciplined disciples of Limbeckitty hate radio and FoxRulesCable shows got automated phone calls containing hypnotic triggers and secret instructions on how to pick up our cash payments from the organizers of the vast rightwing conspiracy and dutifully but incoherently marched while slouching like obedient wingnut zombies to threaten innocent public servants who were just trying to hold reasoned town hall gatherings on why the Democratic Federal Government should exercise budget-burying emergency powers to take over national healthcare.

In all the heat, smoke, mirrors and blather about why Obama and his minions took such a public relations beating for the past month once details of their takeover plans became public, I’ve not read anyone who has zeroed in on the absolute nature of the great gulf dividing the two camps.

It is simply this: Trust.

I and my fellow mobsters simply do not trust government — especially this particular administration and this particular Democrat-dominated Congress.

We do not trust government to tell us the truth.

We do not trust government to act in our individual, personal best interests.

We — through long experience and direct observation — expect government to use us as tax-producing fodder to be fed into the ever-expanding bureaucratic machinery that will grind us into dust.

We distrusters are children of our Fathers, the Founding Fathers, almost all of whom deeply — even obsessively — distrusted strong central governments.

The Declaration of Independence is filled with their loathing of a far-off, unlistening central authority who acted as if it knew best for all its subjects.

The Articles of Confederation enshrined their deep dislike of central taxing authority. The Constitution represented their second try at creating a central government with as few powers as possible to loosely govern a diverse collection of individual states.

Our Fathers purposely spread out power through three branches, hoping against hope that would offer some protection for the rights of individual citizens — and states! — against an overarching central authority.

Supporters of the federal government takeover of healthcare are today’s true believers. The progressives and the socialists and the Democrats actually believe Big Government will be our servant and not become our implacable — even tyrannical — master.

In Big-G-Government they trust. And theirs is truly the blindest of all faiths — many of them having no faith at all otherwise — because they maintain their unyielding faith despite all evidence to the contrary: the still un-won war on poverty, the mountains of ever-increasing government debt (no matter who was in charge, Bush or Obama), the clearly inevitable bankrupting of both Big Government social programs — Social Security and Medicare.

Against all evidence of Big Government inefficiency and Big Government unthriftiness in running both the Veterans Administration medical system (a direct service provider) and Medicare and Medicaid (administered with nearly infinite red tape by Big Government through third parties), today’s In-Government-We-Trust advocates want to turn over the entire medical system to direct government regulation, control and increased taxation.

The IGWT folks will never be swayed from their faith in their high-minded intentions to do their Big-Government-version of what’s good for me even if it kills me.

Their good intentions are all that matter. They believe such a rich country as this should be entirely driven by the good intentions of the progressives and the socialists and the Democrats — even if they take all our money to do it.

I and the other mobsters and tea-baggers protest the progressives’ ends-justify-the-means social philosophy.

And for that protest we progeny of the Founding Fathers have become the hated wingnuts, the scorn of Olbermann-Maddow-Matthews.

Isn’t it odd that the folks who scream the loudest about tolerance and diversity turn out to be the most hate-spouting, least tolerant, and hypocritical of all the voices in the public arena?

What’s worse: They don’t even recognize their scorn and bitter name-calling as true hate-speech. They are blind to their own gall.

I say it again: An increasing number of Americans simply do not trust this government. And you progressives and socialists and Democrats simply cannot beat us or bully us into trusting you or the government.

And we will not let you drive over us.

I mentioned above the great gulf dividing us. In past decades, political civility served as the bridge between the two camps.

That political civility has nearly disappeared, blame whom you will.

Without that civility, there are just the two camps warring across the great divide. There has been nothing like this since at least the dark years of the Great Depression and maybe not since just prior to the Civil War.

I am afraid — and that’s the correct terminology — that we are nearly there.

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Submitted by jpopeye on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 7:04am.

We are there and these are very dangerous times. The extremisim that we call politics is similar to Islamic jihad. I personally lay it at Newt Gingrich's feet. His calculated approach to a winner take all political strategy leaves no method beyond use.

The scary part comes in because the conservative side claims moral superiority and advocates armed citizens. This is another calculated construct to empower their followers and increase the threat of ignoring their needs. The strategists who assembled this construct understand very well how to manipulate en mass and know what buttons to push for the desired results.

I am not against guns nor many of the conservative concepts. I tend to favor a federalist approach but see the wisdom in states rights. I love America but the forces of evil are taking us to the brink. It is not just the loss of discourse and civility that I fear.

Submitted by wheeljc on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 12:46pm.

Obama came into office with more good will than any president — at least since JFK. It has been squandered, and will take a lot of time and effort to rekindle the support — if at all. Just note Gallup; Zogby; Rasmussen; and even Real Politics average polls! It is now a matter of TRUST!!

One of Obama’s major problems is that he delivers way too many speeches, but NOTHING OF IMPORT HAPPENS – in fact, they get worse!! He seems to not listen to the American people – just like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. WHY SHOULD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LISTEN TO HIM??


They fire before they are ready; and forget to aim until they see they missed the target.

This is true of their:

*Cabinet selections: tax cheats, and the attorney general calling us cowards

*Stimulus Package (are YOU STIMULATED YET??)

*TARP additions (WOW — what a deficit trick! What will happen when China quits lending us money?)

*Appointment of near three dozen czars – some with dubious backgrounds and motives. Where is Congressional overwatch??

*Foreign Policy missed steps (the UK did not even think enough of us to seek council before releasing a terrorist responsible for PAN AM Flight 103. We lost 180 Americans!! What good did Obama’s apology tours do for our status in Europe??)

*Cap & Trade (Where will US jobs go with this giveaway? China? India?)

* …and who can forget his Professor Gates moment, followed by his beer reconciliation?? A “teachable moment??” What did you learn??

*Cash for Clunkers (when will the dealers be paid????)

*.......and Health Care Reform! (Are you really willing to turn your and your families health care over to this bunch -- who relishes crises?? Do you really know what Obama wants in a health care bill?? Do you really know what it is going to cost you and your children in the out years?? Suggest that you talk to your own physicians and ask them their views -- more importantly, their future plans!! How can you add more than '40,000,000' to the rolls with a current nurse shortage, and a growing doctor shortage? WHO WILL DELIVER THE HEALTH CARE? Why do you suppose we are adding medical schools in Albany and Athens in the state of Georgia??)

*Hinting that they are planning to restrict freedom of speech (fairness doctrine) and control the Internet

*Additionally, this crew is making major errors in policy in Afghanistan. The Obama 96 Hour Rule is going to cost lives and is nothing short of a "illogical logic loop". If Obama is not committed to WIN, then we should come home and not waste lives. This will be Obama’s Vietnam, because it is OBAMA’S POLICIES!! The Taliban must be laughing their heads off!!

*And now – before perhaps his biggest speech of his administration on Sep 9, he will be talking to school kids on Sep 8!! Curious at best! The problem is, there is a lack of trust of his motives!! What will he say, and why now?

*And for each goof, the response is: “Well, this is what George W. Bush left us!” Is he simply not up to the tasks at hand? That refrain is now a reminder that we made a BIG, BAD, MISTAKE IN NOVEMBER 2008. This is the most arrogant bunch I can remember, and I am 70+!

They simply FAIL TO PLAN! Then, blame their shortcomings on someone else — usually the bad hand ‘Bush handed them’. This crew is really making the James Buchanan Administration appear to be geniuses!

Submitted by Spyglass on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 10:53am.

it's out job to NOT trust the government. Verify, then trust, IF what they are saying is true.

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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 8:01am.

I'm a liberal Democrat and I didn't and don't like the health care proposal and am glad to see it in danger of being defeated or radically modified. You're lumping me in with proposals I oppose with that broad brush you're painting with. Furthermore, there are a lot of people on my side that feel the same way which is why the proposed legislation is failing. If the Democratic Party mainstream truly liked this legislation it would have passed, the Republicans marginalized themselves into borderline insignificance to the point that they could have been ignored.

The leftist have moved too far away from individual responsibility, embraced big government and anti-capitalist ideologies. The right shows disdain for international treaties, revels in unnecessary foreign engagements, celebrates torture and seeks to use the power of government to intrude upon and control the citizens most private behavior. Both sides either support or ignore the consequences of massive debt and overwhelming taxation.

I find myself on the other side of the fence from both Parties.

As to the lack of political civility, much of it can be traced back to the deliberate and planned efforts by Newt Gingrich to demonize the Democrats. Remember his Language: A Key Mechanism of Control?

Where is a party of Jefferson, Madison, and Franklin that I can support?

There is one downside to the failure of the health legislation. I smiled many times thinking of you spending your time fulfilling your promise to read the entire bill.

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Submitted by jpopeye on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 7:16am.

These flag pole issues are a smoke screen designed to appeal to emotions and morality voters. Attention deficit voters are captured by tagging political debate with ingrained response (i.e. morality). It is the Cliff notes of democracy.

The nut of the healthcare debate is what cannot be spoken by public office holders. Our current system of guaranteed funding for healthcare on the young and old end of the market must be corrected. This artificial economic pressure is driving healthcare delivery and research in a way that is not organic to the needs of the market.

Let us all drop the facade and/or admit the truth. It is always about the money. But no one votes for someone who addresses this issue in a way that can be presented as a threat to healthcare for babies or Grandma.

The Gingrich style has left us with no room to discuss because politicians have to assume their opponents will use any tactic to win.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 11:14am.

I won't say all liberal Democrats want the proposed Health Care plan if you won't say everyone on the right "... revels in unnecessary foreign engagements, celebrates torture...". Come on, revels and celebrates. That is a broad brush. Fair enough? But then again, are you just poking around with a hot iron? Eye-wink

As far as the fault of a lack in political civility, you can't blame that on Newt, that problem has been around a lot longer than him. We can blame Rush, Hannity, MoveOn.org, Michael Moore and lots of other people, past and present; not just Newt.

You know level thinkers are not that far apart; regardless if they lean right or left.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 12:12pm.

Well, if a politician (Republican or Democrat) were to show up at my front door, rest assured that my first course of action would be to hide my pocket book. Smiling

This Hamilton/Burr style politics has got to go.


"This is no time for ease and comfort. It is the time to dare and endure." - Winston Churchill

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Submitted by cogitoergofay on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 10:55am.

Will Government Distrust Doom ObamaCare? I, too, appreciate your efforts Mr. Beverly. Both Cal and JeffC have identified the key issue-- distrust. It is one thing to distrust government with mere tax increases. It is entirely another to potentially disrupt or interfere (for example) with my wife's cancer care. Stated differently, I may trust a reckless friend with my truck but not with my bank account.

I have long agreed with JeffC's statement and sentiment of being "on the other side of the fence from both Parties."

Our government is simply not accountable and we care not to make it accountable. The Tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed with blood (to use TJ's expression [and do not take that as the remotest endorsement]); how about the blood of Congress ?

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 12:21pm.

I don't know how to trust or distrust "government!"
That is just a word to describe current elected supervisors of our bureaucracy.

We refresh that system quite often, but not often enough!
As long as we can do that there will be no need for " no trust."

I am a "other side of the fence" person. I belong to no party, democrat or republican, but I often vote a split ticket. Independents finally help control our crooks.

I voted for President Carter, but not many other democrats on the ticket. In my home state we often elected many republicans locally but democrats nationally.

Our current congress was elected generally by people who were ignored by greedy business and a president and other congressmen who ignored that. Wars were started in the wrong places. It only follows when mistakes are made that soon corrections are made.

There is more to be done---much too far left---yet to do.
That just indicates what terrible mistakes cause---too much happens in the opposite.

Let us not ever again elect someone with no gravitas! As you can see, spouting weak religion while in office means nothing to most others.

Submitted by tgarlock on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 6:22am.

I, too am afraid, not only of Big Brother in Washington getting further into my life, but that the consequences of the ever-deepening divide could become catastrophic. Well said.

Terry Garlock

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 4:08am.

We will have universal health care. Not sure of the exact organization to start, but it is finally on the way. Your comments are those of a gasping, sputtering group of defeated just like those who once fought social security, Medicare, Medicaid, women's--minorities, and votes of those old enough to get shot at in the army!

Yes it is progress for humanity and however it comes---by private or government control it will happen.

Private industry has only made health coverage worse---made many indebted to the health industry for their lifetime, a hundred dollars a month forever!

They do not deserve another chance.

Better to spend your time on unjust wars, treatment of wounded and dead soldiers families, and a great recession---depression in California.

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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 7:30am.

That is what you have to be not to see that Socialized Medicine is on life support.. and is losing consciousness as we speak..

"Better to spend your time on unjust wars, treatment of wounded and dead soldier’s families, and a great recession---depression in California."

Unjust wars.. You mean the war that Obama is sending more troops to?

"treatment of wounded and dead soldiers families," I actually agree with you on that one.. The Vet Administration... Fine examples of Government run Healthcare.

"a great recession---depression in California."
That's their problem.. they ran the State in the dirt with high wealth taxes and Environmental nut jobs. They broke it.. They can fix it..

"Any People who expect to be both IGNORANT and FREE, in a state of CIVILIZATION, expects what NEVER was and NEVER will be."

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 9:39am.

You are immature, for sure.

All Medicare needs is some more money or cut some waste, It will happen.

The unjust war was Iraq. We would be out of Afghanistan by now if we had stayed there only.

Who is this "they" you talk about? California? California is people not some foreign land!

They actually owe less per citizen than does Georgia! And, have much better services.

You are naive!

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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 9:23pm.

Hit a nerve didn't I... IF by Immature you mean under the age of rocks.. then yep that is true..

Medicare just needs more money huh? You can not be that stupid.. You do not hand over more cash to a Bank Robber and hope they stop robbing banks..

Please name the Democrats that stood up against the Iraq war at the time we went in not later when it was politically expediant to throw our Military under the bus.. I know there was a few but just how many bonk? Could they have stopped Bush.. Did they try? Link the you tube videos of their speechs that we must allow Saddam to continue to rule..


"Any People who expect to be both IGNORANT and FREE, in a state of CIVILIZATION, expects what NEVER was and NEVER will be."

Submitted by Bonkers on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 5:28am.

You know Jefferson might be partially responsible for much of our troubles these days......ther are four or five hundred of his half relatives floating around here now!

But we do give the banks more money after being robbed!

Noone I know threw the soldiers under the bus...just their superiors!

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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 8:15am.

"You know Jefferson might be partially responsible for much of our troubles these days......ther are four or five hundred of his half relatives floating around here now!"

As long as none of them with your lineage is included I'm ok with that..

"But we do give the banks more money after being robbed!"

Here is a fine example to all students that want to know what Progressive Liberalism is all about... Don't fix the problem.. just throw more MONEY at it... That's been the solution for 40 years in the Education dept.. Low scores, failing Children.. no problem... here's another BILLION.. should fix that right up..

"Noone I know threw the soldiers under the bus...just their superiors!"

Well I guess a half truth is better than none.. You probably don't actually KNOW John Murtha.. Since he called our Soldiers Murderers and all.. Let's see how many Democrats have called our Military..Terriorist, Thugs, Losers and a few more I can't write here.. I lost count a long time ago..

"Any People who expect to be both IGNORANT and FREE, in a state of CIVILIZATION, expects what NEVER was and NEVER will be."

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