if your polling place was designated to be in a synagogue or a mosque. Think about it carefully....wouldn't you feel just a little bit creeped out?

to resort to the ad hominem attacks, did it?

As long as they don't keep you for salvation, you should be good

You will find the polls NOT in the sanctuary but in a gym or cafeteria. Just tell yourself it's a small high school and those creepy feelings will overcome your fear of others' religions.

I promise it won't be nearly as bad as you think. Happy voting!

Creepy feelings, yes.... Don't have a fear of religion as much as a personal indifference to it while still recognizing the enormous pull it has on people who were "saved" at an early and impressionable age.

Creepy feelings, yes.... Don't have a fear of religion as much as a personal indifference to it while still recognizing the enormous pull it has on people who were "saved" at an early and impressionable age.

Fire station too small and is operationable for emergencies. Schools will be having class. All government buildings will be doing their normal day in - day out business.

Churches are perfect... parking - check. Indoors - check. NOT conducting religious ceromonies during the week on election day - check. No cost to government (you and me) - check. Quiet environment of a Church lends itself to volunteer staffs not paid to handle crowd control.

As far as a lesson in democracy... yeah I think its great. Our country was founded on relgious tolerance. Are you aware that before the founding of this Country, religion WAS culture defined. Whoever controlled it controlled everything about a persons daily life. Who and how they married, what class of society they were in, all of the above, by law, as state religion. That is what we are protected from. But not letting some kids pray on their own because they are in the wrong building... or list a religious figure as a term paper subject, or thank God at their commencement speech...is just wrong. There is no "seperation" in the Constitution. No law or legislator made that national policy. A hand picked, non-accountable group of people decided they were going to rule it over us, when they used the term in their opinions. They are supposed to protect us from state run lives via religion, yet, they ignore the other half of the Bill of Rights where it says " AND, no law shall be passed restricting the free expression there of", yet restrictions abound (ask the student whose mike was unplugged DURING her validictorian speech from High School, because she thanked God during it.

is a bit of a red herring. Especially when all the other places I've lived in the US have managed to solve for it without resorting to "consecrated ground". Even PTC has polling places at the rec center and a school.
How about pulling the fire trucks out of the station for that one day? How about (like they did in my high school so may eons ago) putting the voting booths right in the lobby of the school? The 18 year old students can be the poll workers and get credit for Civics class....or did they throw that class out along with Phys Ed?
As far as the Separation issue goes, do you include Adams, Madison, and Jefferson in your group of "hand picked, non-accountable people"?
Do you really believe that church/temple/mosque-sponsored polling places is a justifiable argument of free expression? What about the church/temple/mosque that didn't get picked to be the polling place.....wouldn't they have a legitimate beef about their free expression being resitricted?
No...civic duties, like voting, should be hosted in places where there will be no arguments about "hey...you didn't pick the synagogue, the church, the mosque", etc.....in other words...in civic locations.

Thomas Jefferson penned those words, crafted after his interpretation of the first amendment to the constitution. But I do not think that you understand the context at all. Governments in that time had an official religion and in many places, it was a punishable crime to worship in some other way. The original colonies were mostly founded with an official religion. The architects of our government wanted no interference with religion from the government. They did not want an official religion or other religions quelled. It is a far stretch to say that using an empty building is violating the establishment clause. I would much rather our polling places be in a church, synagogue, or mosque than a working fire station where the public safety is at risk. Back then, the risk was for government to subvert the religions and thus religions had to be protected. Now we have a populace, enamored with their own power and intelligence, trying to keep religion from influencing them. We have a populace where the state is their religion, and their own intellect and feelings is their god.
I am happy to have impressionable people "saved" in a church. They tend to be more charitable and happy than those "saved" by the state.

That's awesome, very awesome!

I always knew you'd land on your head, er, feet!!!

I plan to be healthy and well in the spring. Do you think this professor might allow someone like me to sit in on a class?

Well, if it was up to the professor, he would say "Come on in!" But I suspect that the college has rules about this sort of thing. Official audit, maybe?

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Sounds interesting. What is on the 'reading list'?

But does this instructor have a "whiff of the evangelical" about him?

Seriously, I took a whopping two philosophy classes in college, both of them usually left me with crackin' headaches after class. To this day, when I hear the phrase "ontological argument" I break out in hives....

Let's avoid the hives, but I could help you with that argument. It doesn't work (so say I), but I think it is interesting, at least initially compelling, and a whole lot simpler than people make it out to be. It's a simple reductio in that it assumes, for argument, the denial of what is to be proved and then aims to show that such a denial entails a contradiction.

(So, to suggest that the "greatest conceivable being (GCB)" exists only as a character of fiction and not as a real entity is a contradiction since we can conceive of a being that has whatever properties went to make the GCB great plusactual existence. (Surely it is better actually to exist than not. Right?)
So it follows that the GCB is not the GCB--a contradiction!)

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The real number who graduate legitimately, with the proper knowledge, should be about 40%.

The rest should have been bundled out to technical schools somewhere about eighth grade!

The "diploma" is now the critical item---not the knowledge required.

And then there is that 5% who should do something else after learning to read and write, balance a checkbook, count, and speak English.

They were trying to catch the robber @ the Avenue taking the scenic route back to fulton county.

Who let JeffC out again?
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Bad girls, bad girls, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? I hope it wasn't gang activity.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

Touchless car washing is such a joke...people are being fooled into believing it is better for their car to not have the brushes touching your car. Nothing could be further from the truth! As you pointed out-the employees were rubbing the surface with clean towels being used to remove the dirt. Don't you suppose that that dirt being rubbed might be damaging your paint?...of course, they are just little scratches.

I'd rather have a car wash like the one we previously had on Hwy 54, before the shopping centers came. Their brushes were clean and so was the car when it exited the bay!

BTW, today is my 2 year stopped smoking anniversary.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Congratulations!

This is indeed outstanding as Cy says.

Now about that blogging addiction....
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One addiction at a time, the next one to work on might be my Fosters addiction.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Next time, move that little finger over to get the "L".
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Don't go there.
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Outstanding!!!! I wish I can say I went two years without eating.
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Don't know yet, first away game is Stockbridge on the 29th, I'll let you know, you old warhorse, you must be missing it.

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Sponge Bob is on.
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Or could it be your imagination or the wine? Oops, just happened to think--we should be careful---the moral police may be lurking and will report us all--there go your jobs--I don't have to worry-that is unless Social Security has suddenly taken the high road. But I guess if the government is sending checks to dead people they will continue to send mine even if I am blotto-not stoned-just blotto.

This is as good a topic as any. I have tried and tried to develop a taste for good wine but the 'gooder' it is the less I like it. There is a cheap rose' in a box that is sweet that I can drink, can't remember the name-but I think Ilike it because it is sweet-same with mixed drinks I like 'em sweet--The rest of my family loves wine, knows all about wine and always orders the good stuff. They keep trying to teach me the finer points but it doesn't work. Guess I am just plebian by nature. Not that there is anything wrong with that, some of my best friends are plebes.

I've tried to acquire a test for wine but just don't like the stuff, plus, it always gives me a gruesome headache.

The ONLY wine I will drink anymore, when I can't order an Appletini or Lemon Drop Martini, is Vendage's White Zinfandel.

The reason it gives you a headache is because you are drinking swill. Try a Premier Cru Nuits Saint Georges like one from Chambertin or a Châteauneuf-du-Pape or at least step up to a Pinot Noir (and not Talus! try Cavitt or Bella Sera).

Appletini? White Zin? Yuck! Why not just drink Boone's Farm or Mad Dog 2020?

We're heading out to Sonoma/Napa this weekend. I'll have to stick with the California reds. I guess I'm biased, having grown up there. It's nice to have a mother that still works for one of the wineries. You can't go wrong with a LaCrema Pinot! We'll most likely hit Whitehall Lane, ZD, BV & Beringer.

For those that want a good Sav Blanc go with Mason.

“Live well, love much and laugh often.”

turn on your email for a bit, would you? Would like to communicate with you. thanks. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

I sent you my email address.

Knob Creek or Woodford Reserve will do just fine. Wild Turkey 101 is fine in a pinch. Oh yeah, I like it neat.

Maybe we had better stop discussing alcoholic beverages of any type on this site--the moral police will get us. Next thing you know we will be branded as out of control alkies and morally bankrupt. Just a suggestion, anyone attending the Blogger's Coffee should use assumed names, have ficticious families,jobs and hobbies--maybe even wear a disguise. After all, as Hall and Oats would say "Private Eyes are Watching You." LOL

Better stop before someone mentions Patron.

Thanks for those wine selections. I may give them a try one day.

You mentioned Patron and I have recipe for you... the "Perfect Margarita"

2 oz. Patron tequila
1/2 oz. Cointreau
1/2 oz. Grand Marnier
1/2 oz. Orange Juice
1 oz. Rose's Lime Juice
4 oz. Sweet and Sour Mix

Place all ingredients in a shaker glass, add about 6 ice cubes, shake like crazy, sit back and enjoy.

Happy Friday. It's cocktail time...

Here's an even better recipe for Patron:

2 oz. Patron.

Chill.

Ingredients:

8 oz. tequila

Directions:

Apply liberally with brush. Wait 60 minutes. Paint should be blistered and easily removed with putty knife.

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I'm afraid it's too late for me. My picture has been in the paper and, likely, the Post Office.

As for alcoholic beverages, my mentions on here of my fondness for India Pale Ales apparently contributed to my undoing. ("Numerous references to alcohol consumption" was included among the indictments.)

When I mentioned brew pubs (Picture a tasty brew--perhaps two--a book or good, philosophical conversation--something on the order of Lewis and Tolkien at the Bird and Baby) less subtle minds imagined "Big Daddy's Lounge"--loud disco or techno music, sex on the bar, gyrating gigolos, and the like.

In fact, I subscribe to GK Chesterton's viewpoint: "We should thank God for beer and burgundy by not drinking too much of them."

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I don't think it was the occasional drink you had that caused the problem, but the crazy stuff you seemed to like. India Pale Ales!!
Even Bud now is European!

and a pub in the same breath. The moral police will think you are discussing an alcohol induced orgy. I just cannot wrap my mind around the idea that there are people who feel it is their place to dictate how others should act, and worse yet interpret harmless statements as indications of debauchery. Makes you wonder what is on their minds. I hope there is a special corner in the hereafter (or that other place that starts with an H) where they all have to spend eternity with each other. That would be so fitting.

I can't acquire a taste for martinis either--haven't tried lemon drop or appletini--will give them a try.

As for Adam's housecat-- that is a pretty old saying. I can remember people of my mother's generation using it--I think it may be more a southern thing. Usually used: Why I wouldn't know her from Adam's housecat! Means you don't know her, have never known her and don't want to know her!

Appletini's and Lemon Drops because they are pretty sweet drinks - and you can't even taste the Vodka. The Lemon Drop tastes like a cool, glass of lemonade (perfect on a hot summer evening).

Go by William Sonoma over in The Avenue and they have the Apple and Lemon pre-mixes - all you do is add a shot of Vodka - easy, easy.

Oh, thanks for explaining Adam's housecat - it went over my head, duh. But I think I could actually use that saying when referring to a few people on here...

"...you don't know her, have never known her and don't want to know her!"

Exactly!

The expression that is---I will make a special trip to W-S tomorrow and get me some mix. If I get like Cy and drink til the lights go out it will be your fault! LOL

I've move on from wine. I'm finishing the evening with a little Baileys Irish Cream. Lights out soon.
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Now,did you mean you were going to turn out the lights or your lights were going to be turned off for you? LOL

Are there a lot of "winos" on this site?

Must one stay soused all of the time?

Indicates lack of ambition!

What if your ambition is to stay soused? Jesus's first miracle was turning water into wine. You got a problem with Jesus?

Gosh, we're working on a thread here that started in 2005. It's kinda like time travel, don'tcha think?

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France and had the wine. It's pretty good stuff. They drink it morning, noon and night. "Chateau this" or "chateau that" it's a different experience. The really sweat red wine is Manischewitz.
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Manischewitz????

Gag me with a spoon. I serve better wine to my cat.

Most French and Italians do drink table wine! They have no money for your tastes. I spent some time in the mountains of Italy out of Genoa. Those workers carry a gallon (yesterdays age) and a hard loaf of bread to work! Now, in the embassies, different!

Also, if one is going to drink two paper boxes a day and two bottles of Early Times as did the car dealer who just died and left his girlfriend five million, you,even he, can't afford the $30-100 dollar stuff.

(Unless of course the company is paying)

A 1.5 liter bottle of Bella Sera Pinot Noir is less than 10 bucks. Cost doesn't equal quality.

Me too! But I'm not drinking cheap wine, I'm drinking Grape stuff... smirnoff something or another. Good stuff. (I like the girly drinks when I'm not drinking Jack and Coke!) Oh, and I have no idea what to talk about...

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

I'm drinking Riunite Lambrusco. And to show you how low class I am, I'm drinking it out of kids tupperware cup; of course with out the cap. Darn, I'm almost out!!!!
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I actually like Reunite Lambrusco!!! Does that tell you how low class I am?!?! I'll even put it in a crystal wine glass to make me feel better about drinking cheap wine! Now, if that ain't redneck, I don't know what is! (I also kinda like Bud Light... but don't tell anyone!)

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

Mogan David 20/20,a.k.a. "mad dog", Ripple, or the real good stuff, "Night Train". When you do actually drink these concoctions of fruit squeazins and formaldahyde, you are required to throw the empty bottle on your roof and go to sleep on a piece of cardboard out in your yard.

I had to give up the Mad Dog it made me howl at the moon.

Ah the good old days.

Stop it all ready!!!!
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Sold in lesser convenience stores everywhere! :)There it is, right next to the Colt 45 Malt Liquor That Works EVERY time.

While you're down on your knees looking at the very bottom shelf for the cheapest swill ever created, don't miss these winners that you know suck just by their name and the fact that they are about $5 for a gallon: Old Crow(what a name for booze!), Old Grandad(cuz old anything is soooo yummy I guess), Fighting Cock(heeheehee), and Wild Irish Rose. PARTY!

This was the stuff when we were, oh, 15 or 16. They sold it at a Cumberland Farms store nearby. Of course, at 15 it was hard to get our hands on it. But I can still remember the taste of this swill as we would sit on the S. Florida beach at night and pass it back and forth.

Cumberland Farms also sold bottles of Chianti wrapped in straw with a handle. I figured this was for the rich people, it was so, you know, fancy.

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I remember that well, $1.25 a fifth and just chug the whole thing down and you were blitzed for a couple hours.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

wow, muddle, you too?

I did some stupid things drinking that stuff. Walked across a frozen lake (I hoped it was frozen at the time) with my friend after swilling that stuff at the local ice rink. Gosh that was stupid. Everytime we would take a step, we could hear the ice crack, and we laughed the whole time. Dumb.

How did we all survive those years?

Those are some fine ones. We had Thunder Bird wine, M Lamont and Brew 102 beer on the west coast. Real stomach rot.
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two more bottles of it and I just put one in the frig. Heck, who knows, by the time Mrs. Cy gets back I might be tugging on the seventh sheet. I'll try to keep up.
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Isn't wine cheaper by the box? And the great thing is that you can stick it in the fridge with the spigot sticking out and conveniently refill your 16 oz. Solo cup.

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Wine in a box. Now that's a very major sin.
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We used to marinate our steaks in it. Don't know if it helped the steaks any but it sure made you think it did.! Don't even know what gave us the idea to use it as a marinade--and I am not a wine drinker! Thanks for the memory jog!

I'll contact him in the morning. Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Make sure the guy sobers up before you make that sales call.

Wulf

LMAO at that. Enough BEER and you'll do about anything.

That crazy guy could be anybody's husband on a bad day!!!

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE