What has happen is a wonderful step in the process of us being one!

Wed, 11/05/2008 - 3:45am
By: manofwar

What has happened is a wonderful step in the process of us being one! Be leery of the outspoken people of eras past that forge to only make this about race.Barack has a very different view. The smallness of a lone factor is Not how he thinks.

Many have brought us all to this door that is now open. Barack does not view himself as a single entity.
He has a much broader inclusive view. Reflect on how he was reared and who reared him.
Also, whom he married and how deeply he Loves.He has traveled and been schooled throughout the world.
The values that he has enveloped are caste by many, his vision is inclusive open loving caring and respectful.

Look at the man and he will state to all of us, all in his own words who he is, we must learn to listen to HIS words.
There are voices that try to ring as his and they are a certain part of America. He does not separate America in parts. Barack speaks not of any racial divide or any divide being his mantra, he steers us away to our better selves..

While the old ideas and ideals are being discussed they are part of the discussion, yet Barack does not lay dormant in the past he is a visionary and walks toward the open door using his determination hopes and dreams to open it widely. While there are many that sit and cry because the door wasn't opened wide enough, needing accolades to continue, he has moved on.To rely on the few ( that want camera time) would be misguided. He is unique rare ask him or the people closest to him. Pundits of any color, race or creed do not necessarily speak for him. Cynics beware his view is advanced inclusive and open!

He will let us all know what we can do "Yes we Can" because that is the future. He does not labor in the past he is trying to get to the best of, the future, civility, respect, honor, caring, and love of each other and this country.We are one!

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Submitted by Bonkers on Fri, 11/14/2008 - 8:49am.

"The smallness of a lone factor is not how he thinks."
"Barack does not view himself as a single entity."
"his vision is inclusive open loving caring and respectful."
"Look at the man and he will state to all of us...we must listen to HIS words."
"voices that try to ring as his and they are a certain part of America....or any divide being his mantra...he steers us away to our better selves."
"old ideas are being discussed and they are a part of the discussion..
Barack does not lay (sic) dormant..and walks toward the open door," "which he opens widely."

I think I agree with you but I have a hard time understanding the above phrases without punctuation. I can't agree that Barack is unique and rare! There are many of his ilk who could do better, but don't. An example like Barack is fine but not necessary. Don't wait for him to tell you when and what to do for the, "yes we can." get started on some of it now!
Surely you have some ideas?

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Submitted by muddle on Fri, 11/14/2008 - 9:04am.

Somebody set up us the Obama!


"Puddleglum" by Weatherwax (one of the Muddlings).

Jeeves to the Rescue

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Submitted by Weatherwax on Sat, 11/15/2008 - 2:39am.

I got it.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 9:07am.

Well maybe I don't, because the kind of America that Barack envisions is one that I doubt I'd recognize, or want to live in.

My philosophy of society is akin to George Lakoff's article on "Metaphor, Morality, and Politics", written in 1995 by a liberal Berkley professor.

Its rare that I find anything a liberal says to be academically honest, from global warming, err climate change, to the lowering of the common misery denominator, i.e. mutual misery, I have rarely found anything that a Liberal says to be worthy of debate. But Lakoff's article made a lot of sense.

Essentially, his article attempted to argue that our political philosophies were akin to being parents, i.e. metaphors.

A liberal is like our mother. The primary purpose of government is to nurture her children to play and work together in love, without bickering and fighting. The motivation for success is more spiritual, not individualistic. We become self-disciplined not for the benefit of oneself, but for the benefit of society. Society's purpose and mission in life, is akin to children playing on the playground. Learning to stand in line at the swings, sharing your ice cream with the less advantaged kids in school. Learning from our teachers the inherent joys of self sacrifice over the needs of the other children. Mommy, i.e. Government, will always be there to kiss our boo boo's, when we fall and scratch our little knees. We are never really responsible for our own behavior, because Mommy loves us all, and can always find an excuse or a reason why we steal, or refuse to work, or refuse to get an education. Mommy understands that we are all victims, and that we should never celebrate success of one child over another, because that might make some other child feel left out.

Conservatives are depicted a bit more harshly. We are the strict fathers. We raise our children to become independent, to learn a trade, and then to get the hell out of the house and become all that you can be. We think of government assistance to be a last resort, and an embarrassment. We shun handouts, and nurturing kisses from mommy government for our boo boos, instead, we rejoice in personal accomplishment and believe that the best motivation for success can be found in one six letter word, h.u.n.g.e.r..

Conservatives don't mind having a safety net for all our peoples to use when life's unintended consequences knocks us down. i.e. Katrina, but we also don't pity those that refuse to do nothing for themselves. Sure its very harsh, but when people know that the government can be bought and paid for by the votes of non-producers, then they will want to change the safety net into a trampoline. Which is exactly the difference in socialism/liberalism and conservatism.

Conservatives believe in a safety net, that is to be used only as a last resort, and should never be proudly used. Socialists believe it should be a big trampoline, and that sometimes, everyone needs to just take a break from the hard realities of life, and should jump off the high wire of life, and enjoy the fun and thrilling time of no responsibility, while bouncing up and down without any shame on the trampoline.

So, as Barack creates a bigger trampoline, generations of our children will see more and more people enjoying the lifestyles afforded them by the individuals who choose to work. They will have to make a choice, between work or enjoying the fun of living off the backs of others. The embarrassment of this is handled by learning which class of people you belong to, which affords you a victim status, which then affords you the RIGHT not to be ashamed. You deserve the break from reality, you deserve some fun, since your group of people have been oppressed for so long. Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, someone else will punch that clock in a 70 hour work week, and their taxes will pay your way, all because you are a victim.

America needed a stern father, Bush wasn't it. He was like a mean old arrogant uncle that tried to date mom, while dad was on hiatus. Mom is in charge now, and she is really mad at all of the bullies, who have embarrassed the other kids on the playground by actually counting the strikes, outs and runs on the ball field, which made little Cindy Lou cry because her team lost. So Mom is going to set the record straight, and even out the score, by spreading the wealth around to those that didn't want to play, or didn't want to work at learning how to play.

I just hope this cyclical political change will pass, like the last Democratic President who garnered a majority vote of the mal-contents, Barack's supporters also wanted Mommy to pay for their gas and mortgage payments.

I just can't wait for the first bill that passes which creates another federal holiday for our new messiah. Oh, and one for Karl Marx too.

The Dads out here are getting mad and angry. Eventually, with time, many of the moms will begin to realize, that raising a country with only one parent, isn't such a good idea. We need both a mother and a father, but never just one or the other.

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Submitted by diva on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 8:24pm.

Richard? Of course you were wrong, are wrong, and will be wrong until you fix that monocular vision of yours that paints only one solution to a given problem. Now, the error of your last three presidential votes not withstanding, there often exist more than one right answer to a given question. The idea that you have been trying to paint democratic solutions as dangerous, class-warfare inspiring, socialist, marxist, communist 101 is, well.... comical. Dude, you are way too stressed about this whole election thingy. Now is a great time for you to go into the locker room or war room (as you see fit) and evaluate why your arguments didn't hold up and how your party might reconnect with the American people.

Or you can call us all pinko commies. Suits me either way. Eye-wink

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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 10:53am.

All those conservative Republicans out there working hard to support all the liberal freeloading Democrats on welfare. Of course it's bunk.

Since passage of Clinton's Welfare Reform Act of 1996, the nationwide welfare caseload declined about 60 percent between 1994 and 2004, and the percentage of U.S. children on welfare is now lower than it has been since at least 1970. In addition, Census Bureau data show that between 1993 and 2000, the percentage of low-income, single mothers with a job grew from 58 percent to nearly 75 percent, an increase of almost 30 percent.

From Handouts to Employment

What's really happened is that almost no matter how hard normal people work and produce productivity gains, Republican tax policies have been implemented to assure that increases in income have been concentrated in the hands of the very few. The eight years of Bush has resulted in an astounding and unprecidented drop in the median income.

Overall, the median household income rose from $33,338 in 1967 to an all-time high of $44,922 in 1999, and has since decreased slightly to $43,318.

A 2006 analysis of IRS income data by economists Emmanuel Saez at the University of California, Berkeley and Thomas Piketty at the Paris School of Economics showed that the share of income held by the top 1% was as large in 2005 as in 1928. The data revealed that reported income increased by 9% in 2005, with the mean for the top 1% increasing by 14% and that for the bottom 90% dropping slightly by 0.6%.

The new data also shows that the top 300,000 Americans collectively enjoyed almost as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. Per person, the top group now receives 440 times as much as the average person in the bottom half earned, nearly doubling the gap from 1980.

The top 10 percent of Americans collected 48.5 percent of all reported income in 2005.
That is an increase of more than 2 percentage points over 2004 and up from roughly 33 percent in the late 1970s. The peak for this group was 49.3 percent in 1928.

Income Gap Is Widening

Whatever you think of “spreading the wealth around”, Republican policies which stagnate income for 90% of Americans in an economy with inflation will inevitably produce debt and stress among American families. That's the real legacy of Republican policies.

You are right about, “The Dads out here are getting mad and angry.” That's why the real dads out there, the ones trying to survive in this economy and raise a family, rose up and threw your Party out of office by the largest margin since 1908.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 9:37am.

You are right on target. Thank you.

Submitted by Davids mom on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 9:17am.

We need both a mother and a father, but never just one or the other.


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 10:06am.

But like Bush was never a real Conservative Father, Barack is no real caring mother.

Bush tried to be the compassionate conservative. He'd feel sorry for your boo boos, and then just arrogantly act like there was nothing in could do. He never inspired, nor argued why he couldn't or shouldn't do everything for the American people. Katrina is a classic example. While Florida, a child of the government, handled hurricane problems left and right, New Orleans, was the drunken, homeless child, that had been given governmental assistance day after day, year after year, generation after generation. That child didn't want to do for itself, and Bush was made to look like a mean old man because he didn't personally carry water to those that chose to not do for themselves.

But Barack is not going to be our mother either, sure he is set up to take that role, but he is more interested in the power to make these changes, than he is in any pragmatic answers to these problems which might involve answering honestly why we have people so willing to allow the culture of laziness and ignorance to control their people. Its not just black versus white, its a culture of governmental handouts, and a lack of pride in the individual. When you are taught from womb to tomb, that you, the individual, have been held back merely because of the color of your skin, then you begin to identify more with those that share that skin color, rather than those that individually want more from themselves than what their peers and associates expect of them.

Whether its the intent of liberalism or not, the result of a nanny state, is to diaper every american with the same dirty diapers we've used for generations. That dirty diaper called the War on Poverty didn't stop poverty, but increased it. Now liberals want more diapers to be given out, because our children haven't learned or wanted to learn how to wipe their own bottoms. Conservatives believe, if you sit in it long enough, you'll eventually realize that you have to clean up yourself and you will, unless mommy comes along and does it for you. Which is what liberals love to do.

So, yes we need both, but the mommies of which I speak are the democrats of old, who had a hard work ethic, but also found time to consider the needs of those that can't do for themselves. Not those that choose to not do for themselves. The mommies that teach us to always show some measure of compassion for all creatures on this earth, but at the same time, realizes the hypocrisy of spending another person's earnings to assuage a liberal's guilty conscience. That is why, report after report finds Republicans are generally happier than liberals, and that liberals are always found lacking in giving to charities on a personal basis. Barack is worth millions, but gave less than one half percent to charities last year, if my memory doesn't fail me. Hell his own family is destitute, and he allows them to live in poverty. Thats shameless, and evidence of a character that I find reprehensible.

Republicans tend to live a live of personal charity, liberals live a live of charity at the expense of those who earn a living and never out of their own pockets. Its a fact. Liberals don't give to charities like conservatives do. They want the needy to turn to government. They want people to ask for help with no remorse.

A conservative looks at government programs as successful when they have done what they were designed to do, and then ended. Liberals look to government programs to control every aspect of our lives, which is essentially socialism. Public healthcare, public retirement, public transportation, public education, and now, Barack wants a Civilian National Security force with the same funding as our military. Now why would he want a bigger police state? Sounds awfully Stalinistic to me.

Barack and the Democrats have all the power that is necessary to fix these past wrongs, they have no more excuses to not advance their liberal/socialistic politics. The question is whether those changes will effect our nation for generations to come in a good way, or will the War on Poverty corrupt our culture even more than it already has.

Submitted by ConfushaSay on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:00am.

The Messiah has risen. The second coming is finally here. Let us all kneal before HIM and ASK these questions.

How will the annointed one heal the USA ailing economy?

How will HE stop the rise of the jobless rate?

How will HE govern? Left, Left-Center, or the Center?

Will he push a big tax raise immediately?

Will there be peace on earth forever more?

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Submitted by dawn69 on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:25am.

The Democratic party now has the House, Senate, and Oval office. There will be no excuse in not 'getting things done'. I expect Obama to adhere to his promises of grandeur. Respectfully, I hope he serves us well.

"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." - Helen Keller

Submitted by PTC32YEARS on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 6:41pm.

They will just screw it all up and expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.

Submitted by Davids mom on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 8:38am.

They will just screw it all up and expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.

At least we gave the Bush administration a chance before we started criticizing his phenomenal 'mess up'.

Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:27am.

Examples of class and dignity in congratulating Obama. This is what makes America great! Wow, I'm so proud to be an American!!

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:41am.

"Wow, I'm so proud to be an American!!"

Probably for the first time...........

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 11:13pm.

In the spirit of unity, I plan on giving our new president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that the democrats have given to our recent Republican president.

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 7:21am.

Its ok to call Bush stupid, but when you call Obama stupid that will be considered racist.

Better to take it up a notch from the gutter where the Dems who criticize Bush reside and simply say that President Obama (it hurts to type that) is misinformed. Easy to do and probably true if you look at how his staff appointments are starting.

John Kerry for Secretary of State? Are you kidding? Weeks before the election I told you all to think about who would be in his Cabinet .

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Submitted by diva on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 11:28pm.

Do you completely lack the ability to demonstrate critical thinking? Does your plagiarising cut and paste brain fail to register that post 9/11, President Bush enjoyed the support of democrats and republicans? Can your near-sightedness not perceive that the "you're for us or against us" bluster forced Americans to choose sides with respect to preemptive warfare? Do you not understand why John McCain thought torture of anyone by the US was morally WRONG? Do you have no capacity to comprehend cause and effect or culpability?

And last but certainly not least Mr. cut and paster, do you not realize that it is time for us all to stop listening to you? Cheers, and have a good life, if that's possible with President you know who Laughing out loud

Life is Good!!!!!!

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 8:20am.

Could it have anything to do with the fact that America has just elected a socialist as president?

Submitted by USArmybrat on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 8:50am.

One of my son's favorite expressions comes to mind...HERE'S YOUR SIGN!!!

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 8:33am.

When Obama becomes NObama, by doing NOthing he promised, the truth will be out. The sad part is the eyes of the dumb Americans who voted for the communist will then be opened, but it will be too late.
Lady Liberty is crying again Sad

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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 10:55am.

He'll probably be reelected and be in office until 2017.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 2:09pm.

glad to see your all-knowingness continues and now includes
predictions 8 years down the road!

Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 2:19pm.

Take a laxative - you'll feel better!

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 2:23pm.

Don't tell him that! They will bury what's left in a shoe box! Laughing out loud

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Submitted by dawn69 on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 10:31am.

I, too, felt that both candidates conducted themselves graciously and with the dignity that so profoundly defines our nation.

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