Barack Obama is not Barack Obama

Thu, 10/23/2008 - 10:59am
By: alittlebirdietoldme

Barack Obama is not Barack Obama

October 23, 2008 by andymartin ny

The presidential campaign is sure to be roiled by the findings of Internet powerhouse and Chicago investigator Andy Martin. Does Obama fear a “dying declaration” by his grandmother? “It’s time for Obama to stop lying and start truth-telling,” Andy says.

The Obama investigation in Hawai’i, Part Three
Obama’s Hawai’i Years: The truth finally revealed
Barack Obama is not “Barack Obama”
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

“OPERATION ALOHA OBAMA” YIELDS UP THE TRUTH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA

PART THREE: BARACK OBAMA IS NOT BARACK OBAMA

“OBAMA’S FATHER WAS FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS. OBAMA IS REALLY FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS, JR.,” SAYS ANDY MARTIN

OBAMA’S ‘DREAMS FROM [HIS] FATHER] WAS REALLY A BOOK ABOUT HIS REAL FATHER, FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS

OBAMA WAS THE VICTIM OF A HISTORICAL ANOMALY, AND ROBBED OF HIS BIRTHRIGHT AS THE SCION OF CIVIL RIGHTS ROYALTY

OBAMA’S ORIGINAL “VAULT” BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS EITHER INCOMPLETE OR TAMPERED WITH, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS NEVER SURFACED.

MARTIN SAYS OBAMA SHOULD SUBMIT TO DNA TESTING WITH HIS BROTHERS

WAS OBAMA THE “VICTIM” OF A PRO-LIFE MOTHER?

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 22, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin told a Honolulu news conference today that after an intense international investigation he is convinced that Barack Obama, Junior, the presidential candidate is really the son of Obama’s controversial mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

“Mendacious adults ‘switched’ Obama at birth. That is why he has refused to allow access to the original or ‘vault’ birth certificate,” Martin told a Honolulu news conference. “We believe the original certificate did not list a father. Barack Obama became the father as a result of an agreement between Ann Dunham, Frank Marshall Davis and Barack Obama, Sr.

“Davis was already married to a White Woman. He did not need a nonmarital child by a second one. Ann probably refused to have what was then called a ‘back alley’ abortion. Davis may have felt that ‘Obama’ would face less stigma with an ‘African’ background than a Negro one. The civil rights revolution, of course, turned that gambit upside down. In discovering and understanding what happened we cannot forget we are dealing with events in 1961, not 2008.

“The irony in all of this is that Obama once stated he did not want his daughters to be ‘victimized’ with a child. And he is alive because his mother took the contrary view.

“Barack Obama has known this since adulthood, and the shock of this discovery still reverberates in his psyche.

“Ironically, what I have to say today dilutes the ‘Muslim’ theory that has propagated. Davis was not a Muslim. If Obama had told the truth at some point in his life, instead of living endlessly with the lies that were imposed on him by the adults in his life, we would have avoided a great deal of confusion. I, for one, have deep compassion for Mr. Obama. He is not the first person in history to be caught up in this kind of family fraud.

“The disclosure by the two women in his life that he was not the ‘son’ of his ‘father’ also explains why he manifests such extreme ambivalence to both his mother and grandmother. He is angry because he was cheated of his real father.

“Obama was robbed of his birthright of being the son of civil rights royalty, and of a father with whom he was completely simpatico. He could have grown up the son of Frank Marshall Davis, civil rights pioneer and activist, cutting-edge journalist, poet and man of letters. Mr. Davis was an extraordinary man in a dark period of this nation’s history, the pre-dawn of the civil rights era.

“Obama has probably suspended his campaign and is flying to Honolulu because he is deathly afraid his grandmother may make a ‘dying declaration’ and blow the whistle on his family fraud. Dying people often blurt out the truth. The true facts of Obama’s parentage also reflect why there has been so much tension and alienation, as well as genuine love, in Obama’s relationship with his grandmother.

“There has been a great deal of confusion and misconception about Frank Marshall Davis. A brief history lesson is essential to understanding the bizarre facts of Obama’s provenance.

“During the 1920’s and 30’s many Negros (African-Americans) became ‘communists’ because the Soviet Union and the Communist Party USA promised to end racial segregation and Jim Crow laws in the United States. The Democratic Party, of course, was the powerful force behind segregation and Jim Crow. So it is a twist of fate that the same party that oppressed Blacks has now nominated one for president.

“Madelyn Dunham is the last surviving person who knows the truth about the switch. That is why as we closed in on Dunham, Obama went ballistic, cancelled his campaign and came to Hawai’i to head us off.

“I actually carry an official, certified pocket-sized birth certificate on me at all times [Andy shows a copy to media]. But this is NOT my ‘birth certificate.’ The original certificate is held in the City Clerk’s vault in Middletown, Connecticut. That is what has come to be known as the ‘vault copy.’

“Likewise, the document that Obama has plastered over the Internet is NOT his original birth certificate or even a copy of his original certificate. It is a computer generated facsimile of an official record and nothing more. The original certificate was either handwritten or typewritten, not computer-generated in 1961. No one has ever seen that original certificate except the people that are working so hard to keep it hidden from the American people.

“I am asking Judge Ayabe to impound the value certificate and have the court hold it for safekeeping.

“By the time Barack Obama learned who he was, it was too late to change his identity. He was who he was, so he continued the ruse of being the son of an ‘African herder,’ which was yet another lie. ‘Dreams From My Father’ bears no connection to dreams from Barack Obama; there were none. It was Frank Marshall Davis who communicated his dreams to his secret son.

“There is a simple way for Obama to resolve this controversy: he can either admit the truth of these facts and order the immediate release of his vault certificate; or he can submit to a DNA test. We can conduct a Maury Povich-style DNA test to determine filiation between Obama and his brothers, one of whom blogs at BarackObama.com.

“In closing, I can only say that we used the fictional ‘Hawai’i Five-O’ as our dramatic template for this investigative operation. We could have as easily used the great, real-life Hawai’i detective Chang Apana as our polestar. He was featured in yesterday’s newspaper.

“As for Mr. Obama, all I can say is ‘Book’em Danno.” Case solved. Barack Obama the presidential candidate is the son of Frank Marshall Davis.” Martin stated.

“I bear Mr. Obama no ill will and no animus. I have only been a faithful servant of the search for truth, and I believe we finally know the secret truths about who Barack Obama really is: the son of Frank Marshall Davis.”

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Submitted by AXJ on Fri, 10/23/2009 - 10:59am.

Somebody just posted on the AXJ website: www.axjus.com that Judge Carter has ordered discovery. Is it true?

I am a member of AXJ and value the truth above all else. Join us now.


Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 5:53am.

Let's put this one to rest!

Obama's Birth Certificate

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 7:39am.

Again, Davids Mom, if you would read something before replying,
this proves OBAMA a total liar.
The premise here is not that he was born out of the country, BUT
that his real lineage is COMMY PINKO..
oh yeah, you stated on here you wouldn't read that post, while praising his purported real father that you still know nothing about (FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS)
Andy Martin's lawsuit is still valid and will be heard Nov. 17th.


Submitted by manofwar on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:47am.

My wife made me canvas for Obama; here's what I learned
This election is not about major policies. It's about hope.
By Jonathan Curley

from the November 3, 2008 edition
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Charlotte, N.C. - There has been a lot of speculation that Barack Obama might win the election due to his better "ground game" and superior campaign organization.

I had the chance to view that organization up close this month when I canvassed for him. I'm not sure I learned much about his chances, but I learned a lot about myself and about this election.

Let me make it clear: I'm pretty conservative. I grew up in the suburbs. I voted for George H.W. Bush twice, and his son once. I was disappointed when Bill Clinton won, and disappointed he couldn't run again.

I encouraged my son to join the military. I was proud of him in Afghanistan, and happy when he came home, and angry when he was recalled because of the invasion of Iraq. I'm white, 55, I live in the South and I'm definitely going to get a bigger tax bill if Obama wins.

I am the dreaded swing voter.

So you can imagine my surprise when my wife suggested we spend a Saturday morning canvassing for Obama. I have never canvassed for any candidate. But I did, of course, what most middle-aged married men do: what I was told.

At the Obama headquarters, we stood in a group to receive our instructions. I wasn't the oldest, but close, and the youngest was maybe in high school. I watched a campaign organizer match up a young black man who looked to be college age with a white guy about my age to canvas together. It should not have been a big thing, but the beauty of the image did not escape me.

Instead of walking the tree-lined streets near our home, my wife and I were instructed to canvass a housing project. A middle-aged white couple with clipboards could not look more out of place in this predominantly black neighborhood.

We knocked on doors and voices from behind carefully locked doors shouted, "Who is it?"

"We're from the Obama campaign," we'd answer. And just like that doors opened and folks with wide smiles came out on the porch to talk.

Grandmothers kept one hand on their grandchildren and made sure they had all the information they needed for their son or daughter to vote for the first time.

Young people came to the door rubbing sleep from their eyes to find out where they could vote early, to make sure their vote got counted.

We knocked on every door we could find and checked off every name on our list. We did our job, but Obama may not have been the one who got the most out of the day's work.

I learned in just those three hours that this election is not about what we think of as the "big things."

It's not about taxes. I'm pretty sure mine are going to go up no matter who is elected.

It's not about foreign policy. I think we'll figure out a way to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan no matter which party controls the White House, mostly because the people who live there don't want us there anymore.

I don't see either of the candidates as having all the answers.

I've learned that this election is about the heart of America. It's about the young people who are losing hope and the old people who have been forgotten. It's about those who have worked all their lives and never fully realized the promise of America, but see that promise for their grandchildren in Barack Obama. The poor see a chance, when they often have few. I saw hope in the eyes and faces in those doorways.

My wife and I went out last weekend to knock on more doors. But this time, not because it was her idea. I don't know what it's going to do for the Obama campaign, but it's doing a lot for me.

Jonathan Curley is a banker. He voted for George H.W. Bush twice and George W. Bush once.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 9:47am.

Thanks for sharing. Many men(and women) in this country have joined you.

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 9:13am.

My wife made me canvas for Obama??????????

My own mother could not have made me "canvas for Barry".....much less my wife or anyone else, for that matter.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 10:53am.

"..this proves OBAMA a total liar."

Ummm, from that link David's mom posted: "State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii."

Birdie, were you dropped on your head as a baby or what? State officials have put the final nail in the coffin of this issue....time to move on.


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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 12:24pm.

I think that this proves that getting information from loquacious avians is not the basis for forming a government.


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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sat, 11/01/2008 - 10:19pm.

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin wins a major victory in Hawai’i as state officials examine and confirm the existence of Barack Obama’s secret birth certificate

CNN and Factcheck.org are embarrassed; Martin demands retractions and apologies for their misleading reports

Andy vows to keep up the battle whatever happens on November 4th; a court hearing is scheduled in Honolulu for November 18th and Andy says, “I’ll be there.”

Martin’s birth certificate litigation victory will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign; the Internet Powerhouse is set to hold a Saturday news conference in Chicago and disclose new attacks on Obama

Martin issues challenge to Barack Obama: Stop lying to the American people and immediately authorize the release of your original, typewritten 1961 birth certificate

Internet warrior Martin returns home to Chicago on Saturday after one month of “combat patrols” fighting the “Obama Gang”

“Barack Obama has been lying to the American people,” Andy says

Fox News faces lawsuit for sliming its source

(HONOLULU)(November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawai’i over Barack Obama’s bogus “original” birth certificate. Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawai’i backed his assertion that there was an original, “typewritten, 1961″ birth certificate, called a “Certificate of Live Birth” or “COLB” in Hawai’i, that no one has previously seen. Hawai’i officials retrieved and examined the document after Martin filed a lawsuit seeking access to the historic 1961 original.

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the “original” on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin.

Hawai’i officials have now refuted Obama’s false assertion.

Martin’s victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. “We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign,” says Andy.

“I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org ‘ObamaLies.org.’ I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai’i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

“My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai’i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

“CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai’i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

“Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a ’secret,’ original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony ‘original’ that CNN placed before its viewers.

“Why would Hawai’i officials review the vault document at the Eleventh Hour if my lawsuit wasn’t causing a furor in Hawai’i state government? Why? The Friday before the election?

“Mine is the only logical, rational, properly prepared lawsuit that has been filed to open Obama’s secret records. I sued in the proper state in the proper court against the proper officials for the proper remedy. And they are responding properly. The judge has properly, although not as quickly as I would have preferred, set a hearing to consider my claims. I have not filed outrageous or exaggerated pleadings.

“I merely sought access to a document based on its scholarly and news value and because I had been tipped by my sources inside state government that Obama was lying. My network of informants within state government helps me and guides me. Others filed lawsuits outside Hawai’i that have either been dismissed or discredited. My ‘little engine that could’ is chugging along.

“I have an outstanding record of high-profile public interest litigation, as recognized by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court five years ago when they allowed me to represent a U. S. Marine in a landmark lawsuit.” See www.AndyMartin.com and www.FirstRespondersOnline.us

In a Honolulu news conference on October 22nd Martin disclosed that Frank Marshall Davis was the biological father of Barack Obama, not Barack Obama senior. The Obama campaign has not denied Martin’s claim.

“Over the past month I have been on combat patrol from coast to coast for the truth and for the United States Constitution,” says Andy. “I have not the slightest link to John McCain. I am connected to the Constitution and nothing else. I have waged relentless war against Barack Obama’s lies. And on the eve of the final weekend in the presidential campaign Hawai’i government has backed me by confirming that officials have examined the original, typewritten 1961 document, and confirmed that the document released by the Obama campaign was a facsimile, not the original.

“I have won a major victory: I proved Obama was lying about what he had posed on the Internet and falsely portrayed as ‘the original.’ ‘Barry, we caught you with your pants down. We caught you lying, again.

“Saturday it will be my pleasure to return home to Chicago after one of the most successful independent political battle operations in media history, to wage the final weekend of war for the truth and Constitution and against the Daley Machine and Obama Gang. I have successfully been exposing and fighting Daley Family corruption for over forty years. Barry Obama is part of the second generation Daley Machine. He is a member in good standing of this criminal operation.

“The Machine doesn’t like me. But I have a history of coming up with the truth, and a history of embarrassing powerful people. In retaliation, they try to smear me. The disclosure that Hawai’i officials have examined the true original COLB, and that Obama lied to the American people by falsely claiming he had posted the original 1961 document, is going to spread like wildfire between Saturday and Tuesday night.

“This election is bizarre because the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party, the Party’s leader, is from the Daley Machine in Chicago. And the leader of the Internet Army opposing Obama and working to defeat him and the Daley Machine is also from Chicago. My Senator would be proud.

Martin is expected to announce Saturday that he is suing Fox News as well as the New York Times, for defamation of character. The lawsuit will be released Monday morning.

“For Fox News to treat me as they did is beneath contempt,” says Martin. “I am respected around the world for accuracy, honesty and integrity. We know the New York Times is a corrupt media operation. But Fox News? Well, Ruppert Murdock may want to kow’tow to Barack Obama, but I will not kow’tow to Ruppert Murdock. The crass executives deserve to be sued for their malicious attacks on me. Someone ought to stand up for me: I helped expose Bill Ayers and Khalid Al-Mansour. A slimy ‘vice president’ that probably never worked a case or a story had the nerve to demean me. What a compete corporate moron.

“How dare these media imposters and blowhards smear me with lies, when I have worked tirelessly to expose the truth about Barack Obama—and succeeded,” Martin will charge. http://www.youtube.com/v/RgjQhnDEGSk

“I’ll be happy to face the Fox jerk, Vice President Bill Shine, in court and defend my good name against Obama’s mud merchants, the New York Times and Ruppert Murdock. Ruppert Murdock’s daughter is backing Obama, for Chrissake.

“I also plan Saturday to thank Dr. Chiyome Fukino for confirming my factual allegation that there was/is an original, typewritten 1961 ‘vault’ COLB that has not been made public and that the true ‘original’ COLB is in official files. That confirmation makes Barack Obama a liar, on the last weekend of the campaign. Thank you, doctor.

“Now you know why Obama and Axelrod and Gibbs call me the ‘Internet Powerhouse’ that can’t be stopped. Barack Obama will be bleeding through election night because of this massive lie exposed on the eve of their election. I work for the American people, not John McCain or the Republican Party. Friday, truth arrived in Honolulu, and in the remaining 100 hours that truth is going to be spread from coast-to-coast.

“Obama lied.”

Martin lands in Chicago at noon, and will proceed to his office, for an afternoon news conference.

Martin is also soliciting financial support to fund his litigation in Hawai’i.


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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 12:29pm.

You either misread or misunderstood.

State declares Obama birth certificate genuine

1 day ago

HONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US. Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama's citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

If the judge hears the case it will only be to dismiss it. It'll be over in five minutes like all the rest of Martin's lawsuits.


Submitted by divaiam on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 7:34am.

my comment is why cant white america just get over it and face it that we may have a black president! i mean really, i have lots of white friends and during this election i have really seen another side to them, i mean so what obama is black! you guys can dig and dig and try to find negative things on him, but it really truly doesnt even matter because cause GOD has already decided.

Submitted by holdyournose on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 9:49am.

Why can't black America understand that white America WOULD vote for the RIGHT black President? This guy is just simply WRONG for us. Do you worship the same GOD that the rest of us do? Because that was a interesting statement; even GOD knows that this is the WRONG man. If you are so big on having a black president please go out and find one who represents ALL Americans, not just the ones who are going to vote for him because of his color, no matter the content of his charater. Find a good man who will bring America together as one nation under God, indivisible, who will strengthen us and not weaken us an make us the laughing stock to the world. God help us if this one wins. I will pray to my God that she lets the democratic process work and watch over us the next 4 years. You have white friends??? I have black friends who say he is wrong no matter his color. Just remember, he is half white but that is not good enough reason for me to vote for him.

Submitted by divaiam on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 1:17pm.

and your canidate is right because.......?

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 10:04am.

you took that bait, hook, line, and sinker. I find much amusement regarding arguments involving whose God is better, because for each of us, there are two: the one we made and the one that made us.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


Submitted by boo boo on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 1:26am.

My Dear Birdie, me thinks that little birdie that has been brainwashing you with all this "gobbly" (ha ha) goop, must been placed in boiling water and had it's feathers pulled out one by one to come up with these stories you have placed on this blog. I think your little birdie is so full of poop he/she might explode anytime. Before this poop starts falling please seek out help or whatever pulls your chain and please take Little Bo Peeper, Ruthie, and whoever else needs to be deprogrammed with you. Mother Nature blesses all your pea picking hearts...

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 9:05pm.

In addition to being insane, you are also quite ignorant....if he were a "naturalized citizen" he would NOT be eligible to be president. One must be a "natural born citizen" to be eligible to be president....For example Arnold is a naturalized citizen and therefore cannot aspire beyond California.

Funny, McCain was born outside the US, and his eligibility was slightly more open to question than is Barack's.....

Why oh why do I bother replying to these buffoons anyway?

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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 7:50pm.

"He is God's Chosen One, however, to begin Satan's 7 year rule as is outlined in King James and so we shall wait, watch and suffer. He does not even know how big his role is -- but he will and he too will be sorry but it will too late for him as for those who are fooled." Shocked

OMG...Do you really believe this stuff?

On November 4th, my vote will cancel out your vote Laughing out loud

Unless, you will be voting for the anti-christ.


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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 6:03pm.

Berg's lawsuit was dismissed last Friday. Ho-hum.

But let me ask you this... did it ever occur to you that Obama cannot be Davis's son and an illegal non-citizen at the same time?


Submitted by tennfan1 on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 7:02pm.

Again, the man who is so desperately seeking the "truth" about Barack Obama has been declared a "vexatious litigant" in numerous federal and state courts. Courts are usually rather tolerant of the pompous and arrogant in America, and to be asked not to file any more motions or lawsuits reflects something on the sanity and judgment of the individual in question.

People have been insisting that the end was near since the beginning. Every major political figure has been called the Antichrist since the first century A.D. Nothing ever changes. This is the same old song and dance.

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In the end, everything will work out. If it's not alright, it's not the end.

Submitted by tennfan1 on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 8:53pm.

This is absolute delusion. Surely there must be some sort of satirical bent on this...? No?

Do you honestly think that somehow claims that this "investigator" asserts would not have come out much earlier? Like, say, 2004? I am entertained by this commentator's use of "truth" and "facts" to assert his "point". Apparently, "factually correct" is a by-word for "I can say whatever the heck I want because it's the truth and plus, I'm smarter than you are so pipe down".

There is good reason you can't just demand to see someone's full birth certificate. It's a birth certificate. It contains all the information that distinguishes you as an individual. I couldn't demand to see your birth certificate just because I had a hunch about something that incurably vague and blatantly inane. This particular investigator, however, is undeterred by such elementary rules of logic. Previously, he was not admitted to the Illinois State Bar because state psychiatrists found him to have a "moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character."

Well now. Should we put the tinfoil hats on now or later?

If you disagree with someone's policies, get up and say so. Don't hide behind someone else's babbling slander.

I won't dignify this copy/paste post any further.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 11:34am.

Too bad the Repub navel-pickers can't focus on issues, like our sinking economy, and the fact that McCain admittedly knows little about economics even relenting by saying he would have to "rely on his VP for economic advice".....aaack! Sarah Palin advising him on economic policy Shocked:

PALIN AS ECONOMIC ADVISOR


Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 9:08pm.

Just imagining Sarah Palin as an economic advisor...Guffaw!

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Submitted by diva on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 9:25am.

so much of his time talking about William "why do we even know his name" Ayers and the fraud "Joe the unlicensed, tax evading plumber," but as soon as the illegally purchased high fashion Gov. Palin wardrobe was discovered, here comes Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Sarah Palin, and John McCain asking why we aren't talking about the "issues." Hello! Is Ayers the issue? Is your unlicensed $40k a year Sam the speeder the issue? And, weren't John Edwards' hair and John Kerry's tan pretty big issues for you folks just one presidential election ago? It's funny how , ummm, "adaptable" the GOP message has become.


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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 11:39am.

...either Barney Frank or Chris Dodd can be entrusted to be Secretary of the Treasury?


Submitted by Aurora on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:24am.

Just as you question Barack Obama's legitimacy, shouldn't we be allowed to question who Andy Martin is (and why do you believe him)?
Here is an article about Andy Martin and how he operates.

From the Times:

The most persistent falsehood about Senator Barack Obama’s background first hit in 2004 just two weeks after the Democratic convention speech that helped set him on the path to his presidential candidacy: “Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion.”

Andy Martin is known for filing many lawsuits.

That statement, contained in a press release, spun a complex tale about the ancestry of Mr. Obama, who is Christian.

The press release was picked up by a conservative Web site, FreeRepublic.com, and spread steadily as others elaborated on its claims over the years in e-mail messages, Web sites and books. It continues to drive other false rumors about Mr. Obama’s background.

Just last Friday, a woman told Senator John McCain at a town-hall-style meeting, “I have read about him,” and “he’s an Arab.” Mr. McCain corrected her.

Until this month, the man who is widely credited with starting the cyberwhisper campaign that still dogs Mr. Obama was a secondary character in news reports, with deep explorations of his background largely confined to liberal blogs.

But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground. The program allowed Mr. Martin to assert falsely and without challenge that Mr. Obama had once trained to overthrow the government.
An examination of legal documents and election filings, along with interviews with his acquaintances, revealed Mr. Martin, 62, to be a man with a history of scintillating if not always factual claims. He has left a trail of animosity — some of it provoked by anti-Jewish comments — among political leaders, lawyers and judges in three states over more than 30 years.

He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”

Though he is not a lawyer, Mr. Martin went on to become a prodigious filer of lawsuits, and he made unsuccessful attempts to win public office for both parties in three states, as well as for president at least twice, in 1988 and 2000. Based in Chicago, he now identifies himself as a writer who focuses on his anti-Obama Web site and press releases.

Mr. Martin, in a series of interviews, did not dispute his influence in Obama rumors.

“Everybody uses my research as a takeoff point,” Mr. Martin said, adding, however, that some take his writings “and exaggerate them to suit their own fantasies.”

As for his background, he said: “I’m a colorful person. There’s always somebody who has a legitimate cause in their mind to be angry with me.”

When questions were raised last week about Mr. Martin’s appearance and claims on “Hannity’s America” on Fox News, the program’s producer said Mr. Martin was clearly expressing his opinion and not necessarily fact.

It was not Mr. Martin's first turn on national television. The CBS News program "48 Hours" in 1993 devoted an hourlong program, "See You in Court; Civil War, Anthony Martin Clogs Legal System with Frivolous Lawsuits," to what it called his prolific filings. (Mr. Martin has also been known as Anthony Martin-Trigona.) He has filed so many lawsuits that a judge barred him from doing so in any federal court without preliminary approval.

He prepared to run as a Democrat for Congress in Connecticut, where paperwork for one of his campaign committees listed as one purpose “to exterminate Jew power.” He ran as a Republican for the Florida State Senate and the United States Senate in Illinois. When running for president in 1999, he aired a television advertisement in New Hampshire that accused George W. Bush of using cocaine.

In the 1990s, Mr. Martin was jailed in a case in Florida involving a physical altercation.

His newfound prominence, and the persistence of his line of political attack — updated regularly on his Web site and through press releases — amazes those from his past.

“Well, that’s just a bookend for me,” said Tom Slade, a former chairman of the Florida Republican Party, whom Mr. Martin sued for refusing to support him. Mr. Slade said Mr. Martin was driven like “a run-over dog, but he’s fearless.”

Given Mr. Obama’s unusual background, which was the focus of his first book, it was perhaps bound to become fodder for some opposed to his candidacy.

A motion he filed in a 1983 bankruptcy case called the judge “a crooked, slimy Jew who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race.”

In another motion, filed in 1983, Mr. Martin wrote, “I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did.”

In an interview, Mr. Martin denied some statements against Jews attributed to him in court papers, blaming malicious judges for inserting them.

But in his “48 Hours” interview in 1993, he affirmed a different anti-Semitic part of the affidavit that included the line about the Holocaust, saying, “The record speaks for itself.”

When asked Friday about an assertion in his court papers that “Jews, historically and in daily living, act through clans and in wolf pack syndrome,” he said, “That one sort of rings a bell.”

He said he was not anti-Semitic. “I was trying to show that everybody in the bankruptcy court was Jewish and I was not Jewish,” he said, “and I was being victimized by religious bias.”

In discussing the denial of his admission to the Illinois bar, Mr. Martin said the psychiatric exam listing him as having a “moderately severe personality defect” was spitefully written by an evaluator he had clashed with.

Mr. Martin, who says he is from a well-off banking and farming family, is clearly pleased with his newfound attention. But, he said, others have added to his work in “scary” ways.

“They Google ‘Islam’ and ‘Obama’ and my stuff comes up and they take that and kind of use that — like a Christmas tree, and they decorate it,” he said. For instance, he said, he did not necessarily ascribe to a widely circulated e-mail message from the Israeli right-wing activist Ruth Matar, which includes the false assertion, “If Obama were elected, he would be the first Arab-American president.”

He said he had at least come to “accept” Mr. Obama’s word that he had found Jesus Christ. His intent, he said, was only to educate.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 8:17am.

Andy Martin explores the relationship between Barack Obama and anti-Semites.

Questions the mainstream media will not ask Barack Obama:
The Cover-up: Part One (first in a series)
“Why was Khalid Al-Mansour raising money to send you to law school?”

ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin asks a blunt question: Why are there so many anti-Israel, anti-Semitic associations in Barack Obama’s past?

Why has the media imposed a conspiracy of silence on questions about Obama and Khalid Al-Mansour’s fundraising activity for Obama’s law school education?

Could it happen again? Maybe it is.

(NEW YORK)(October 28, 2008) Four years ago I exposed that Barack Obama had a Muslim family history that he was concealing. I offered an explanation for this concealment, and suggested he was wary of Jewish voter backlash to his Islamic roots. Today the Jewish voter backlash that I predicted in 2004 is apparent and growing.

Over the weekend a kerfluffle arose when some Pennsylvania Republicans sent an e-mail to Jewish voters making what appear to be somewhat exaggerated remarks about Obama’s past. See:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/27/pennsylvania-republican-apologizes-for-anti-obama-e-mail/?scp=4&sq=Newman%20+%20Rudnick&st=cse

I certainly do not condone inflated or unfair accusations, and there appear to have been some exaggerations in the Pennsylvania e-mail.

But the core comparison in the e-mail between the Obama campaign today and the advent of the Third Reich in the 1930’s is an apt one. I think there is a strong possibility that if Barack Obama goes to the White House and stays eight years, the State of Israel will not be the same state that it is today. Based on my extensive sources within Israel, I can confirm that some of the anti-Obama propaganda emanates from within Israeli sources.

Some readers will find my own suggestions exaggerated or over the top. They are not. Obama, of course, has always curried favor with wealthy and prominent members of the Jewish community in Chicago, and nationally. Obama’s Jewish supporters obviously do not view their candidate as a closet anti-Semite. (To be fair to Obama, he also toadies up to wealthy Arabs as well; his mansion in Hyde Park was part of a deal where Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi lent money to Obama crony Tony Rezko. http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/26/iraqi-billionaire-threatens-reporters-investigating-rezko-affair/)

Earlier today, however, the respected Middle East columnist Amir Taheri wrote in the New York Post that Arabs and Islamists consider Obama “one of them.” http://www.nypost.com/seven/10282008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama__the_arabs_135632.htm

Both can’t be true. Obama can’t be a strong supporter of Israel and a strong supporter of its challengers.

Taheri made the interesting observation that Obama had given one of his daughters a Muslim name. Malia. Was that a silent signal?

Before he became a presidential candidate, Palestinians and the Muslim community in Hyde Park considered Obama a strong supporter and close friend. The illegal campaign contributions Obama received from Gaza have been prominently identified. Obama has also received almost a third of a billion dollars in clandestine cash with no identification of the donor, and recent confirmation that many “doors” were nonexistent. Where did this mountain of secret cash come from?

All of the foregoing is very confusing. Can a politician work both sides of the street forever? Or will he be called on to make difficult choices?

I suggest we go back further in Obama’s life for the answer.

Earlier this year an interview on the local cable channel in Manhattan passed almost unnoticed (who noticed?). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTx5fZmgwIk&feature=related

Obama was exposed in a most unusual, and significant, way.

Going to graduate school is a grind for all but the very wealthy. I had to hustle to make it through law school (and stayed at the University of Illinois because they gave me a scholarship).

Who was raising money for Obama’s law school education? Saudi agent and anti-White, anti-Israel Black Panther adviser Khalid Al-Mansour.

Can you imagine the outcry in the liberal media if someone who opposes Israel, hates Whites and helped start the Black Panther Party had raised money for John McCain’s education? McCain would be forced out of the race if such an association appeared.

Listening to the Sutton interview it is clear that as early as 1987, when Obama was 26, Khalid Al-Mansour was very familiar with Mr. Obama. That suggests their association and Al-Mansour’s fund raising efforts did not happen overnight.

What drew the Black nationalist to Obama? When did they meet? Occidental College in Los Angeles, perhaps? As part of the Bill Ayers coterie of terrorists and misanthropes? Maybe an old buddy of Frank Marshall Davis? As of today, we don’t yet know. No one is talking.

But how many media have asked Obama about the Al-Mansour connection? Zero. None. That is a known fact. There is a complete silence by the mainstream media in confronting Obama with his Al-Mansour connection. I was the first to speak on national media about Al-Mansour and, of course, Obama’s attack dogs were unleashed to smear me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSq2oJ0W1c&feature=related

Any time I see a conspiracy of silence imposed on a topic, I want to know why. Who is muzzling whom? No mainstream media will venture to question Obama about his ties to this anti-Semitic, anti-White Black nationalist.

In the Middle East, I am well known as a critic of Israeli foreign policy, although I am also a supporter of the continued existence of Israel under American assistance and sponsored the Andy Martin Middle East Peace Plan in 2000. http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=452

I have a large Arab and Muslim readership. When I started writing bad things about Mr. Obama last year I was also told to “shhhh.” I ignored the request. The mainstream media have not.

Is there a pattern here? Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Minister Louis Farrakhan. Khalid Al-Mansour. The mainstream media have strenuously shied away from asking even a single question about Obama’s pattern of relationships.

Earlier in this column I suggested that if Obama spends eight years in the White House the Israel of today will not be the Israel of tomorrow. When you consider Obama’s lifelong associations with anti-Israel, anti-White, Black nationalist agitators, you can see why I have formed what CNN might ridicule as an “informed opinion.”

Is 2008 1938? In a few days Germany will observe the seventieth anniversary of the tragic anti-Semitic outburst Kristallnacht. Could it happen again? Maybe it already is.

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Footnote: Back in 1980 my property was seized by a corrupt cabal of bankruptcy lawyers in New York and Connecticut. The bankruptcy courts are infamous as cesspools of thievery and deception . I was the innocent victim of both a political kidnapping and a burglary by corrupt federal judges in Chicago, who were trying to derail my corruption fighting activity in Illinois. A corrupt Connecticut judge, cocaine addict Jose Cabranes and his supporters. including Judge John O. Newman, schemed to assist the looters in stealing my property. I have offered to make my attorneys available to corroborate these accusations.

Vicious remarks were made on all sides. Imagine how you would feel if you were the victim of an orchestrated judicial conspiracy to intimidate and silence corruption fighting activity. Cabranes was a crook that was later rejected for the Supreme Court because he had helped loot my property. The same fate befell Newman (rejection). In those proceedings I made some unfortunate remarks, originating in a civil rights lawsuit, that raised the issue of religious discrimination and was critical of Jewish lawyers. These individuals later fabricated documents to smear me.

I have testified under oath that some of these remarks were true (they were filed in court) and others were not. But the events happened twenty-five years ago. The New York Times tried to trump up these stale remarks, on orders from Obama to smear me as an “anti-Semite,” and placed them on Page One to portray me as a current anti-Semite. Nothing could be further from the truth, as anyone who knows me would confirm. The Times’ smear attacks appear to have backfired politically.

But here’s the point: Khalid Al-Mansour has made vicious anti-White and anti-Jewish remarks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8npeYfKI_ns

How it is that my stale remarks in a 25 year-old lawsuit are front-page news in the Times, but the fact that 20 years ago an active anti-Semite was raising money to send Obama to law school are not? How is it that Obama’s campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs goes on Fox News to brand anyone who speaks to me an anti-Semite by association, and equates me with mad bomber Bill Ayers, and yet the media have no questions for Obama or Gibbs about the infamous Khalid Al-Mansour? Double standard? You get the picture. Obama and his buddy David Axelrod are master smear merchants, and they have intimidated the media into doing their dirty work. Obama is using false charges of anti-Semitism to demonize his opponents. But the New York Times and mainstream media are concealing real anti-Semitism on the part of the man who financed Obama’s law school education. Now you know why the Times is losing readers and money, and why the mainstream media are dying. People see though this type of media skullduggery and duplicity.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 7:23am.

Andy Martin predicts John McCain will win the White House
October 30, 2008 by andymartinny

Andy Martin calls the election for Senator John McCain
He says if present trends continue, it’s McCain by a whisker
Andy will be staying away from the $2 million “Temple of Obama” in Grant Park, Chicago on election night

ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

ATTENTION: DAYBOOK/ASSIGNMENT EDITORS

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin says Senator John McCain is going to win the presidency, by a whisker.

“McCain has finally shown who he is,” Martin says. “McCain took command.”

“Forty-two years of politics at the national and state level convince me John McCain is going to squeak in,” Andy says.

“McCain is a warrior, and warriors perform at their best with their backs to the wall. McCain’s campaign—if it continues—has hit its stride at the opportune moment.”

Andy asks Sam Zell to order release of the secret L. A. Times tape.

Martin predicts the Los Angeles Times’ manipulation will backfire on Obama.

(NEW YORK)(October 30, 2008) Let me make my prediction. John McCain wins the White House by a whisker. The race could admittedly go either way. But if present trends continue, McCain will squeak through to victory. He is not George Bush, heaven forefend, and he is not Bob Dole.

I was offered tickets to the “Temple of Obama” in Grant Park Tuesday night. Thanks but no thanks. I would not go near the place. There could easily be a riot, and violence. Forty years after the first Grant Park riots, one writer was expecting a victory celebration next week: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102802954.html

Maybe Bill Ayers will show up and reprise his “Days of Range” if Obama loses. There may not be a riot. But Obama’s “victory” celebration will be an unhappy congregation.

My opinion is contrarian. I saw McCain finally take off the gloves Wednesday. He started hammering at Obama’s secret cash and the mendacity and manipulation of the Los Angeles Times. Sarah Palin did the same. Finally they are fighting.

First, the Times kerfluffle. The Los Angeles Times dust up is a metaphor for the media arrogance and manipulation that have characterized the entire campaign. The Times refuses to release a tape of Obama at a controversial dinner in Chicago. The paper claims that a confidentiality agreement exists. Where is it? Is the agreement in writing? Have they asked to be relieved of the confidentiality restriction? Doubtful. Instead of working for the full truth, the Times claims a “right” to manage the news so as to conceal firsthand evidence from the public. Is that what journalistic “ethics” have come to?

I am asking Tribune Company majordomo Sam Zell to override the L. A. gang and order release of the tape.

Most of Obama’s Hyde Park barons were apparently on the tape, and all at once: Ayers and Dohrn to be sure. The “guys in the neighborhood” were having a neighborhood dinner. And trashing Israel. Such a nabe.

Now I do not want to misrepresent my own views. I have been a critic of the Israeli regime. My views are no secret in the Middle East. But what I am respected for there, and here, is being open and honest about my views, and telling the truth as I see it, qualities that are sorely lacking in Mr. Obama.

Obama on the other hand, knows nothing, sees nothing and hears nothing. Hmm. A man who is so perceptually challenged should not be in the Oval Office. I have a close friend who says Obama should be elected even if he is a crook. I do not agree.

I do not want to return the Daley machine to the White House ever again. I saw how they operated in Washington 42 years ago.

And so the tape stands as a symbolic example of how and why people no longer trust the mainstream media. “It’s mine,” cry the Times editors. “And you won’t see it.” When has that behavior ever engendered friendship, or support, on the playground? The Times is hurting Obama worse by concealing the tape than if it released the material and let the chips fall.

McCain and Palin have correctly seized on the tape for its symbolic value. Trust me, it works. Finally, someone in their entourage is thinking, watching, analyzing and acting.

I watched McCain on Larry King Live. McCain looked great, spoke well and gave me assurance that he is ready for the final bombing run. I have been flying in formation with McCain for months, swearing at the guy, throwing beer bottles at him, and telling him I am going kick his butt after the next mission.

Maybe he’s finally ready to be a warrior again. Perhaps the mealy-mouthed campaign he has been running embarrassed him.

Dan Rather was also on Larry King, and curiously subdued. Rather knows a lot about close finishes and I think he senses McCain is going to surprise.

McCain has been under attack with every dollar Obama could scrounge from his anonymous supporters, a veritable blitzkrieg of clandestine cash directed at the American people and our democracy. And McCain held up. He is making small strides even under Obama’s fire.

A campaign that is that resilient signals two critical factors: McCain is ready to come out of his bunker and spearhead the counterattack. He has taken command.

And, the other army, the Obama Gang, has not been able to win the support of the populace even while passing out inordinate amounts of cash and inundating the airwaves with propaganda.

Obama may even become a negative poster boy for unlimited fundraising. He may have inadvertently fallen into an advertising trap. Sometimes, even in advertising, you can overspend. You can overdo the advertising until it turns customers against you. Obama may have reached, and passed, that point. People do not want to feel they are under assault.

McCain has to keep hammering away from now until Election Day. He has to stay on the attack, playing on all the issues that define Obama as a cipher, a mystery, an alien. He might even demand that Obama produce a birth certificate to show who he really is. It may be impolitic, but it will work.

I make my prediction with full confidence that it reflects a trend in McCain’s favor, but with some fear that he could revert to mush again. I hope not.

Personally, I like both men. Hatred is not in my toolbox. I don’t mind bashing Obama, because I sincerely believe he does not belong in the White House. At least not until we beat his silly socialist nostrums out of him and tease some of the bitterness and anger out of Michelle. Still, I don’t hate the man.

McCain I understand. He comes from a Navy family. My father and grandfather served King and country. I received a few “dreams” from my dad. I see McCain cooling down as the race heats up. That’s the way they act in the cockpit. No place for fear or queasiness when you drop you nose and point down towards the target. McCain comes from a generation of flyers that actually saw their targets; today pilots stand off the target and direct guided bombs. I don’t think McCain will disappoint me.

I chose February 22nd, Hillary Clinton’s early low point, to rouse her to action. She started to fight, and she almost won the prize. I picked all but one of her primaries correctly.

And now I sense that the squadron commander is going to lead the attack on Festung Obama. Obama has a strong team, no doubt about that. But all of his supporters are moral mercenaries, from Axelrod on down. They all want to win to grab the spoils. Obama wants to be emperor. It is a classic Chicago combination, almost Daleyesque in its dimensions.

McCain is a patriot and so am I. We want to win for country, flag and Constitution. Nothing more than that.

In six days we are going to find out whether the mercenaries or the patriots carry the day. Me? I’ll bet on Old Glory any day.

McCain in a whisker, and not much of a whisker at that.

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WHEN: Thursday, October 30, 4:00 P. M.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 7:26pm.

Andy Martin accused of being “mastermind” of anti-Obama psychological warfare operation
Is Andy martin conducting a “dirty war” against Barack Obama?
Obama’s relentless attacks on Martin have failed to stop or defeat Martin’s “Unseen Internet Army”

Andy Martin accused of being “mastermind” of anti-Obama
psychological warfare operation
Is there a “dirty war” against Obama, or is Obama waging a “dirty war” against the American people?
Venezuelan Alfredo Ascanio of Caracas says Andy Martin is behind the psychological attacks on Obama
Andy’s “Unseen Internet Army” is rattling the Obama campaign

ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Andy Martin’s “Unseen Internet Army” is accused of orchestrating psychological war operations against Barack Obama, conducting a “dirty war” against Obama’s campaign and rattling his supporters

(CARACAS, VENEZUELA)(October 24, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has been accused of being the mastermind of a “dirty war” against Barack Obama. A Venezuelan author writing for a Korean news service has accused Andy Martin of being a leader of a sophisticated “psychological warfare” operation undermining the Obama campaign.
http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=383969&rel_no=1

Martin is the author of “Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.”

Martin just completed a 10-day investigation of Barack Obama’s past in Hawaii and discovered that Obama’s real father was the controversial Frank Marshall Davis, not Barack Obama, Senior as had been previously been believed.

Martin has been attacked by the Obama campaign, the New York Times and other leftist Obama sympathizers in the mainstream media.

“I plead guilty to conducting psychological warfare against Barack Obama,” says Martin. “But I plead not guilty to conducting a ‘dirty war.’ On the contrary, it is Obama who is conducting a dirty war against the American people using hundreds of millions of dollars in secret contributions to fund his attack on our democracy. Who is giving Obama this secret campaign cash? We do not know. He refuses to say.

“The Associated Press asked me if I endorsed circulating rumors about Obama. I said ‘absolutely not.’ I much prefer to circulate the truth about him, and the missing truths that he refuses to disclose to the American people. We scooped everyone when we discovered who Obama’s real father is. No wonder the mainstream media are gnashing their teeth: they can’t publish the truth because of fealty to Obama, and we keep beating them and exposing their lies.

“I have a birth certificate, and no one needs to investigate to know the truth about my birth. No one has yet seen Obama’s original birth certificate; the fraudulent ‘certificate’ he posts on the Internet is an insult to the intelligence.

“Envy, not accuracy or integrity, is driving the attacks on my ‘Unseen Internet Army.’

“My weapons against Obama have been accurate facts. I have consistently and insistently maintained that truth is the ultimate weapon against Obama. I have no need of rumors or lies; I use the most terrible weapons against Obama: the facts, the truth, and exposure of his lies. Obama is the one spreading rumors about John McCain and me.

“Just in the past few days, after I landed in Hawai’i and began investigating the truth about his real father, Obama staged a sham campaign ’suspension’ and followed me to Honolulu, where the cloying coverage of the mainstream media was disgusting.

“And, as if on cue, Michelle Obama Friday resuscitated the ailing grandma, who was described as ‘doing fine.’ So if she s ‘doing fine,’ what was the real reason Obama suspended his campaign and followed me to Honolulu if his grandmother was already recovering?

“Our psychological war is working. His people are rattled. The more they attack me personally, the stronger we become. Now the ‘whole world is watching’ as we fight to defend the Constitution. The smears Obama has orchestrated against me have boomeranged. We are on the attack, not Obama.

“And because Obama has lied so often and lied so much to the American people, we have not even remotely exhausted the fountains of truthful material we use to expose him as an enemy of the American people and a potential future stooge of Iran, Venezuela and other hostile regimes. Bill Ayers? He is a revolutionary and avid admirer of the Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. Nice company.

“It seems that in Chavez-land I am an unpopular as Obama is adored. That tells you something.

“Our war against Obama’s takeover of American democracy will continue,” Martin says. “Even if they accuse us of being the mastermind of a psyops operation, we will persist in using the Internet to defeat Barack Obama. Our ‘Unseen Internet Army’ will prevail on November 4th.”

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Readers of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, say the book is still the only gold standard and practical handbook on Barack Obama’s unfitness for the presidency. Buy it.
Book orders: http://OrangeStatePress.com. Immediate shipment from Amazon.com or signed copies from the publisher are available.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I recently decided to oppose Barack Obama’s election and became Executive Director of The Stop Obama Coalition, http://StopObamaCoalition.com. By default, I became the national leader of the anti-Obama movement. I am not acting as either a Democrat or Republican. I have had no contact whatsoever with the McCain Campaign. I am not a member of any political organization. The views expressed are entirely independent. I am acting as an American citizen who sincerely believes Obama is not the man we need in the Oval Office. We are going to run a very dynamic and aggressive campaign against Obama. I will continue to write my news and opinion columns for ContrarianCommentary.com. /s/ Andy Martin
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The Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama limits itself to $100 maximum contributions; there are no bundlers, fat cats or illegal contributions. Obama is opposed to everything America stands for,” says Executive Director Andy Martin. “But while Obama has raised more than a third of a BILLION dollars, his opponents have raised virtually nothing. We can’t just sit back and expect John McCain to do the job all alone. Americans can either contribute now, or pay later. If we do not succeed, Obama will.”
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Andy Martin is a legendary Chicago muckraker, author, Internet columnist, radio talk show host, broadcaster and media critic. He is currently based in New York selling his new book, Obama: The Man Behind The Mask. Andy is the Executive Editor and publisher of www.ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2008. Martin comments on regional, national and world events with over forty years of experience. He holds a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Illinois College of Law.

His columns are also posted at ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com. Andy is the author of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, published in July 2008, see http://www.OrangeStatePress.com.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 7:38am.

10-27 UPDATE
Andy Martin’s disclosure of Barack Obama’s real father elicits silence from the candidate

Andy Martin tangles with a TV network over investigative techniques and the truth about Barack Obama’s typewritten 1961 birth certificate. Why are the mainstream media not telling the American people the truth about Barack Obama?

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin interviewed in New York by TV network
Martin raises again the question of why Obama refuses to release his typewritten original 1961 birth certificate
New columns, new disclosures are coming—just the facts about the mysterious Barack Frank Marshall Davis Obama
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin is interviewed by a TV network, watch for the report (we don’t know when)

Martin opens a new series of columns on Barack Obama as a result of the TV network interview

COMING MONDAY: Barack Obama and Islam, Again

Andy explains the difference between a legal investigation and a “TV investigation”

(NEW YORK)(October 26, 2008) One of the national TV networks sent a Washington producer and correspondent to interview me in New York today (Sunday) and it was a spirited exchange. I don’t know when any part of the interview will air, but they were asking me questions for over an hour.

So, yes, the “Mainstream Media” (”MSM”) do contact me, and I respond courteously and cooperatively when scheduling permits.

But I also learn from these exchanges with the MSM. The correspondent asked me a lot of questions that represented stale information about me. I asked him what relevant stale material had to the 2008 campaign. There was no response.

And, of course, I was asked for “evidence.” In light of his remarks perhaps it is time for what Rush Limbaugh calls a “caller clinic,” and I will call, “Talking Back to the MSMs.”

First, a little understanding about my background. Most “journalists” come out of journalism school, and they are trained how to react and report when the Wal-Mart truck overturns and spills oranges in the street. Similarly, most network “investigators” have to be good looking first, and journalists second. Anonymous producers do most of the research and investigation. TV “investigations” usually involve consumer fraud types of inquiries where someone has cheated someone else and there is a contact to prove the terms. TV seldom conducts genuine investigations.

I was not trained as a journalist. I studied English in college, and went on to law school, where I learned how to investigate and prepare a case. Unlike consumer disputes, there is seldom documentary evidence to confirm a conspiracy. That is why courts permit circumstantial evidence as probative (proving) and allow adverse inferences to be drawn from refusals to produce material in civil cases.

A lawsuit investigation is an entirely different process than a TV “investigation.” How do you “interview” people that have been dead, or their living coconspirators? How do you conduct historical research? Tangible evidence can be elusive; testimonial evidence is critical. Does that mean we should suspend the search for truth? If that was the case, no criminal conspiracy could ever be prosecuted as long as the coconspirators refused to talk.

I have forty years of experience. And, I have made news over the past forty years with investigations around the world, obtaining information that no one else could elicit.

So I approached the investigation of Barack Obama’s past as a preparation for a lawsuit and not as a TV show. The results are starkly different. While the MSM’s have “investigated” Obama and found nothing, or whitewashed everything they did find, I have found a plethora of serious questions about him. In addition, I have been able to highlight material that was developed by others due to my interpretive and analytical experience.

With this preface we come to the TV production of Hannity’s America on October 5th that has caused the Obama campaign to go ballistic with smears and counterattacks on me, and sent Hannity’s rating soaring: the material involving radical anti-American revolutionary and mad bomber Bill Ayers of Chicago.

Obama exploded when I presented the first reasonable Ayers/Obama timeline on Hannity’s program. I expressed an expert opinion on Ayers and Obama based on undisputed facts, circumstantial evidence and reasonable inferences drawn from the foregoing.

Could anyone outside Chicago really investigate Ayers without understanding the bizarre local culture? In what other city in America, other than Chicago with its culture of cronyism and corruption, could the mayor say that a mad bomber was an esteemed citizen? Only in Chicago.

Do you know of any violent criminals who have been praised by local officials elsewhere and promoted to high office? Send me the names. Chicago is unique because cronyism and corruption trump everything else. That is the case with Ayers and the Mayor. Ayers may be crazy, but he’s Chicago crazy and he’s Daley crazy. The mayor loves him because the mayor’s father loved Ayers’ father. Sad but true. Only in Chicago.

For forty years I have rejected, investigated, exposed and prosecuted Chicago-style cronyism and corruption. I helped send crooked Cook County judges to jail. The local media do not like me, because I embarrass them. Writers at the bankrupt Chicago Sun-Times go into apoplexy every time I expose their paltry contribution to the 2008 campaign. One moron at the Sun-Times made a vow not to write about me, and then broke his own oath. Pathetic.

I went to Hawai’i two weeks ago to ask the questions that no else one had ever asked. Why did the pieces of the Obama puzzle never fit? We were the first investigative team to land in Honolulu to pursue these conundrums about the candidate.

And we found answers. Obama is not Obama. His father was the controversial Frank Marshall Davis, who–surprised?–rose to prominence in Chicago. I did a story disclosing Obama’s true father, a claim that he has not denied. Obama’s silence is deafening. He knows we are ready for him if he does.

Davis may have been a proverbial “bad guy” in the eyes of conservatives, but he was well-liked in Honolulu. And he had influence in city hall. His friends are saddened that Davis’ son is not being elected president, and that Davis’ son travels under the false flag of another family, “Obama”. The whole thing was a tragic fraud linked to Obama’s childish mother, Davis’ existing wife and family, and Barack Obama senior who received some vigorish in return for posing as the father.

I should point out that these family machinations and convolutions are hardly unusual or unprecedented. People discover all the time that parents they thought were their parents are not, or that siblings or cousins are not in fact the relatives they thought they were. Families do occasionally lie to each other. Obama’s is not the first “switched at birth” puzzle to unravel.

That’s why Obama’s “father” was never a father to him. And that’s why “Dreams From My Father” is devoted secretly to Obama’s real father, Frank Davis, who did give his son many dreams and pointed him in the direction of Chicago, where Davis still had many contacts and longstanding relationships. When you plug Davis into the “puzzles” about Obama, there are no longer any “puzzles” or questions. The pieces all fit together nicely.

Which brings us to Obama’s birth certificate. Obama has lied to the American people. Lied. Yes, lied. He is lying as you read this. He has released a piece of paper that is merely a computerized print-out from a data base. We provided a copy of a 1963-style birth certificate to the TV network. We will be returning to this document over and over again in the next week. Obama has concealed the original typewritten 1961 document. The original document in 1961 was typed, not computer-printed as is the sample published by “FactCheck.org.”

Of course my revelation about Obama’s real father irritated some conservatives (and Democrats) that claim Obama was born in Kenya. I have seen no admissible evidence to confirm that he was born in Kenya. One person claimed to have a “tape” of Obama’s grandmother claiming to be present at his birth. Problem? Yes. The “grandmother” is not his grandmother, a fact that has continuously confused the media (yup, the Chicago Sun-Times had the wrong photo on its website for months) because of Obama’s honorific references to her as “granny.” Obama never met his real Kenyan “grandmother” and there is no evidence she was present at his birth.

Ironically, the TV correspondent asked me if I should “apologize” to Obama for mistakenly saying he was a Muslim at birth. I responded that Obama should apologize to the American people for lying about whom his real father was. He has falsely maintained that he is an “Obama” when he is a “Davis.” I am not afraid to publish the truth as we find it, even as it may contradict what we previously thought to be true. Honesty to my audience and the relentless pursuit of the truth are my paladins. And, look for “Obama and Islam, Again,” on Monday, October 27th).

The bottom line: we have embarrassed the New York Times and run circles around the mainstream media, and they don’t like it. Obama unleashed his mud merchants to smear me, and only succeeded in making me a larger presence in the campaign. When I left for Honolulu, Obama had not been there in a while, and his grandmother was already in the hospital without any noticeable concern on his part. He was planning nothing. No MSM had ever conducted any investigation in Honolulu.

The minute my team started digging, everyone started paying attention and, surprise, Obama landed in his jet to visit his real (white) grandmother. Wonders never cease. Miraculously, she had made an instant recovery by the time he arrived. Many people feel he used his grandmother’s illness as a pretext to come to Hawai’i. I do not view that as an unreasonable theory.

In closing, I have one question for Barack Frank Marshall Davis Obama, pretender president of the United States: why won’t you allow me and the American people to see your real, original 1961 birth certificate (in Hawai’i they called a “Certificate of Live Birth.”)?

Until Obama produces the original 1961 birth certificate—typewritten, not computer generated—-he will be a pretender president to the American people and me.

Only a complete moron would vote for a presidential candidate that is afraid to release a copy of his original 1961 birth certificate.

John McCain leaves a lot to be desired as a candidate, and no doubt as a president. But he is a real person. He does not have to hide either his birth certificate or his family history.

A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for a mystery man that lives in fear of his own family history, and lives in fear of what voters would do if they saw a copy of the original 1961 typewritten Certificate of Live Birth. Who is voting for this phony? Who could vote for such a phony?

Ask the Mainstream Media. They are shoving him down our throats.

Over to you Barry (Obama/Davis).

MONDAY: Barack Obama and Islam, Again (last in a series, rescheduled from October 20)

TUESDAY: Questions the Mainstream Media will not ask Barack Obama, The Cover-up: Part One (first in a series)


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 11:23am.

HAHAHA! You just can’t make this stuff up…

Fox News and Rupert Murdoch throw Internet powerhouse Andy Martin under the bus.
The "death of Fox News as we know it," says Andy Martin

"Shameful," is the way Martin characterizes the cowardice of Rupert Murdoch. "This is the end of Fox News as we know it"

"Viewers be warned: in the future you will be seeing Obama propaganda on Fox news, as laundered by Rupert Murdoch."

Fox News attacks Andy Martin

Fox VP Bill Shine is no longer defending the use of "journalist" Andy Martin in smearing Barack Obama during a Hannity special. "Having that guy on was a mistake," Shine told Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz. "We obviously didn't do enough research on who the guest was."


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 12:41pm.

Priceless, JeffC!

You've really got to question the sanity of a grown man who always refers to himself as an "Internet Powerhouse."

But there's still conspiracy theorists out there, like our own Fred, MOC, hershey/bpr, and winby, who believe in crazies like Andy Martin, bless their lil' hearts. Eye-wink


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Submitted by diva on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 9:08am.

Is there an empty straight jacket lying in the corner of a padded cell somewhere? Honestly (again, in my best fake British accent)?


Submitted by swac on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 8:00pm.

Maybe Andy missed this- Follieri was just convicted- he pleaded guilty, to fraud and was sentanced to 54 months in jail.
"Yet Follieri's ties to McCain's orbit have been largely overlooked by the media. Follieri first met McCain when the Arizona Senator visited Montenegro from August 29-31 as part of a Congressional delegation that included Republican senators Lindsay Graham, Richard Burr, Saxby Chambliss, Mel Martinez and John Sununu." [We'll have more on what else McCain was doing in Montenegro in a forthcoming article in the print edition of The Nation.
The connection- Follieri hosted McCains 70h Birthday bash on his yacht. Guilt by association, maybe? http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080929/berman_ames

Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 6:25pm.

It's stuff like this that is hurting McCain. There are those who remember Frank Marshall Davis, his five children and his wife Helen. What a bunch of trumped up innuendo’s - that are carefully stated so as not to be libelous. His children are contacting their attorney. (Andy Martin should check out his own DNA)

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 7:22pm.

etc.
McCain hasn't even gone here..he won't need to when the real story breaks...all you have to do is look at those EARS!!
A lawsuit would be great, DNA testing...that would force the false messiah's hand or ears, whatever comes first


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Submitted by diva on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 9:12am.

for someone who's arms must be absolutely numb from being constrained by the numerous straps and chains of the straight jacket you somehow escaped from. When the story breaks? Did you say that? Really? The election is week after next. Just when do you think this story is gonna take off birdie? A coo coo bird comes to mind. Are you the one Jeff C. asked how you remember to breath, or are there more of you out there?


Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 6:46am.

Are you calling me or Obama a communist. Inquiring minds want to know. Smiling Are you saying that Obama himself switched his birth information? What are you saying? What is Andy saying? hee hee - WHO CARES? Just a few more days to go - and this strategy by the wise handlers of the McCain campaign will have failed! Open your eyes! The operating 'color' this year is GREEN!

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 7:24am.

if you can't read it, i ain't tellin' ya'...
(hint- neither, but another person older than O with big ears too!)


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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 8:34pm.

I join with Andy and urge you to contribute to his cause. Like he said, he can't do it alone.


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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 10:45pm.

Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen
By Reuven Koret June 24, 2008

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The "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign is not certified as authentic and appears to be a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks. But now the senior spokesman of that Department has confirmed to Israel Insider what are the required features of a certified birth document -- features that Obama's purported "birth certificate" clearly lack.

The image became increasingly suspect with Israel Insider's revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not generally known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

Some of these oddities surfaced in Israel Insider's previous article on the subject, but new comparative documentary evidence presented below, and official verification obtained by Israel Insider from a senior Hawaiian official, provides the strongest confirmation yet.

An authentic Hawaiian birth certificate for another Hawaiian individual has since surfaced which, using the same official form as the presumptive Obama certificate, includes an embossed official seal and an authoritative signature, coming through from the back. Obama's alleged certificate lacks those features, and the certificate number referencing the birth year has been blacked out, making it untraceable.

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

Compare the top image presented by his campaign as evidence of Obama's 1961 birth and the other certifying the birth of one Patricia Decosta.

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So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.

Whereas the uncertified Obama document provides the date "filed by registrar", the certified DeCosta document provides the date "accepted by the registrar." The difference between filing an application for a Certification of Live Birth and having it accepted may be key here.

The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

The failure of the Obama campaign to do so, and its willingness instead to put up an invalid, uncertified image -- what now appears to be a crude forgery -- raises the dramatic question of why the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate might have to hide.

Until now, it has been thought that there might be some embarrassing information on the real certificate: was the candidate's name something other than Barack Hussein Obama II, as it is claimed? Was no father listed because of the uncertainty over Obama's paternity? Was his father's race listed as Arab, or Muslim, rather than African? These revelations might be embarrassing, and further undermine his credibility, but he could disavow and downplay their significance. Would revealing such embarrassment outweigh the far greater risks involved in perpetuating a palpable forgery, or passing off an uncertified official document as being certified?

There is one possibility, however, which alone might justify the risk that Obama and his campaign seems to be taking in putting forward the uncertified document image: Obama was not in fact born in Hawaii and may not be an American citizen at all, or at least not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution defines the requirement for the nation's chief executive. Real original birth certificates, circa 1961, have all kinds of verifiable information that would confirm Obama's origins, or throw them into doubt should they be lacking.

Research has since uncovered the law, in force at the time of Obama's birth, that were he to have been born in another country, his young American mother's youth extended time abroad would not suffice to make him a "natural born citizen." Even if he were naturalized later -- and there is no evidence that he was -- he would not be eligible to run for the office of president and -- if forgery or misrepresentation were involved -- he and his staffers might find themselves facing stiff federal and state charges.

But if, at this late date, Obama has no proof of being a US citizen by law, natural born or otherwise, then he or his advisers may be tempted to try to "tough out" the allegations about his "birth certificate" or the lack thereof. He and his campaign have gotten through other embarrassments: maybe this one will go away, too.

Because the consequences were he to admit, or should it come out, that he was not born in Hawaii would be so grave as to make it tempting to take the gamble and hope that no one dares call his most audacious bluff by demanding proof. Talk about the audacity of hope.

But now the State of Hawaii has dashed those hopes by clarifying that a certified birth certificate must have an embossed seal and signature, features his claimed birth certificate image lack.

The longer Obama waits, the graver grow the consequences of waiting.

There is one simple way for the candidate to clear up the issue once and for all: produce for public inspection and objective analysis the paper copy of his original Hawaiian birth certificate -- if one exists. If he's lost the original, he can request a certified copy. Ordinary citizens are required to produce one to get a passport or a driver's license. Surely it's not too much to ask from a man who aspires to hold the highest office in the land.

The issue is not whether Obama is black or white, Christian or Muslim. It is whether he was born in the USA and thus a citizen eligible according to the Constitution to run for President.

If proof of citizenship does not exist, then surely it would be wiser to admit it now.

Because if Barack Hussein Obama II does not produce definitive proof of his "natural born" American citizenship with original, verifiable documents, he will be setting the stage for a very public battle over his personal credibility, the basic legitimacy of his candidacy, and its possible criminality.

UPDATE 6/26:
Janice Okubo, in response to an Israeli Insider question on Tuesday, would not confirm nor deny whether she had told a St. Petersburg Times reporter whether she had said the birth certificate was "real", citing the statutory stipulation that "Hawaii state law (HRS §338-18) prevents disclosure of information contained in vital statistics records except to those people who have a direct and tangible interest in the record as defined by statute." This would, however, seem to negate the propriety of any disclosure by her of confidential information.

Jim Geraghty of The National Review Online, following up on this Israel Insider report, said he had contacted Okubo:

"I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama's certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said "the form is exactly the same" and it has 'all the components of a birth certificate' record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama's web site and Daily Kos is not genuine."

"The 'embossed seal' in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal."

Geraghty's interpretation of Okubo's comments is inexact and tendentious. First, her observation that "the form is the same" is not contested, here or elsewhere. No one is doubting that the form that appears on the various websites (including this one) is a replica of that used for valid certificates. Therefore Geraght's interpretation that follows "In other words" is clearly his own conclusion, not hers.

Indeed, Okubo confirms to Geraghty that the image is lacking the "embossed seal" (and the official signature) that are required for the certificate to be valid. While "she thinks" that the difference in visibility might be attributed to varying "pressure," she admits that she does not know and has not seen the original.

Contrasting the purported Obama image with the DeCosta sample, it is hard to imagine the embossed seal and signature being of such light pressure that they would become completely invisible. An inked date of June 6, 2007, in reverse, does come through. But in any event, Okubo's confirmation that the premsumptive birth certificate is lacking the required stamps makes it all the more imperative for Obama to release the original paper certification, the only valid kind, and not an easy-to-photoshop electronic facsimile thereof. It should not be hard to produce, since Hawaii provides for family members to request them.

Even though Geraghy notes that Obama "initially refused to provide his birth certificate," he has suggested that it is "rather unlikely" that Obama was born in Kenya, since it would require that the candidate and his family do a lot of lying. In fact, there were reports of Kenyati relatives claiming he was born there, and there is the mysterious disappearance of his grandmother, who may indeed know something about this subject.

After all, being born in Hawaii is part of the "family legend" and it would be unreasonable to expect this to vary from interview to interview, especially when a non-Hawaiian birth would invalidate Obama's run for the presidency.

It is indeed hard to believe that Obama could have gone through his life without having to prove that he was an American citizen. But the credulity with which the mainstream media has automatically accepted as valid the image that appears on the radical left Daily Kos blog and on the Obama campaign's polemical "Fight the Smears" website makes it clear that many have been unwilling, now and in the past, to demand proof of an authentic document. They prefer to accept on faith that the candidate or his campaign would not lie about such a thing, assuming he has nothing to hide and no motive to lie.

But until the certified paper birth document is produced -- either by media pressure or a legal challenge in any state -- the fact remains that Obama has not proven that he is a "natural born citizen" eligible to be President according to the Constitution.


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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 11:46am.

Born in the U.S.A.

One last time.


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Submitted by SpinDr on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 9:02pm.

I dont care who this guy is, he is a socialist any way you look at it. Taking from those who work hard to succeed and giving it to those who CHOOSE not to work. I dont have a problem with society contributing to the support of those who CANNOT work, but there are a lot of slackers who could work but dont. Taking the hard earned money from one person and giving it to another = "spreading the wealth around" = is as socialist as one can get. It is 180 degrees from what American is all about. "Taxing" as Barack calls it will promote medioicrity among industry. Why would someone work hard to earn the extra bucks only to have them taken away and given to a slacker who refuses to work. Barack will turn the US into a nation of slackers if hard work and performance are not rewarded and those rewards are not allowed to be kept by those who earned them.

God Bless John McCain. If you have a job - say a prayer for John McCain on November 4 and vote for him - twice if you can - Barack's supporters will be thanks to ACORN.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:41am.

Wow. Andy Martin takes some wild drugs! He must have been high when he came up with this new conspiracy theory.

Okay, I'll play. So, if Obama was switched at birth by "mendacious adults", I see this as a win-win for his campaign:

1) The notion, that Obama was NOT born in the U.S. but in Kenya, is invalid now since his real dad, Frank Marshall, was an American citizen when baby Barack was born.

2) Obama was deceived as an innocent child by all those mendacious adults, however, this special young man grew up to beat all the odds against him, graduated from Harvard, became a Senator and ran for President of the United States. A true American success story and he will gain millions of sympathetic voters because it's just WRONG to do that to an innocent child.

Thanks for clearing this up for us, Andy. Eye-wink


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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:14am.

I cannot believe how gullible some people are! Really. It's amazing you remember to breath from minute to minute.

THANK YOU FRED!


Submitted by justwondering on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 12:05pm.

There are always people with kooky ideas. My concern is this. I think it is a national security issue for no one to have allegedly seen the original. Americans who adopt children from other counries have at least 10-20 different documents to be shown,not to the press, but gov. officials in the US before they can bring the children into the US. Also,note some of the new places where we will need visas to visit. It is national security.

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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:35am.

the truth is coming out...what'cha gonna' do when they come for O?!?!?!?


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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:50pm.

1. Who is this "they" that might come for O?

2. What makes you think we can't co-op them into the birth certificate conspiracy?


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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:10pm.

...the COPS tune ringing a bell now?...
bad boys, bad boys, what ya' gonna' do...


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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:46pm.

Is Cops a show? I've never seen it. I think I've heard of it. It vaguely rings a bell but the relevance escapes me.


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Submitted by alittlebirdietoldme on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 2:54pm.

Andy is right on so far..."O" is now in "H"-5-0...


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Submitted by JeffC on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 4:11pm.

I really don't think Andy is a bad boy. He has documented mental health problems so I'm giving him a break.


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