Gunman Opens Fire in a Chruch

Sun, 07/27/2008 - 12:28pm
By: Cyclist

Gunman Story



I'm so sorry that this happened.

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Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:32pm.

I'm convinced.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 5:21pm.

Thanks Cyclist.

The shooter wasn't associated with the church.

A member of the church mentioned that they had just put up an outdoor sign, welcoming gays to their congregation.

I hope this outreach to others, gays in particular, wasn't the reason for the shooting, but you never know these days:


Submitted by jackyldo on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:30pm.

he'd been scouting out other churches in the area.
He walked in with a 12 gauge semi automatic shotgun and 78 rounds.

His stated aim was according to his letter in his truck "hatred of the liberal movement".

The Unitarian-Universalist church promotes progressive social work, including advocacy of women and gay rights. The Knoxville congregation also has provided sanctuary for political refugees, fed the homeless and founded a chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, according to its Web site.

Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:19pm.

Gays were not the problem between this fellow's thinking and the Church!
The problem was not religious but monetary.
He had exhausted his welfare for unknown reasons but had not gotten a job--he is 58, an Airborne veteran, and an engineer by trade, but looks beat up and scraggy.
The Church was helping a lot of poor and jobless people (they are a liberal and a conservative church--liberal for people, conservative for government).
I suppose, but don't know, that he did not want to be affiliated with the religion part of it, but wanted the help.
We have now and will have many more soon, lots of people in his mental state who just want to die at someone else's hand.
Many from Iraq's difficulties, and many more coming from our recession.
Of course some are heritage slaves (or bums if you are conservative) to such conditions also, but they usually are willing to live on less and not take such drastic action.

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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 11:52am.

Killer had hatred for the liberals

Wonder if they’ll let him listen to Rush and Savage while he’s rotting in prison.

Submitted by boo boo on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 2:56pm.

When I heard this I too thought, I bet he is a Rush or Faux news listener/watcher. They spew nothing but venom/hate and very scary for those gullible enough to believe every word these hypocrites say. Rush has been spewing this same hate message for over 20 years, he just changes the names of the people he goes after. What a negative person this Man is.

Submitted by zigs on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 8:45pm.

Who knows this man could have been listening to Air America and Al Franken or even NPR, or maybe reading just to get pumped up. There's just as much "hate" being "spewed" in these and other liberal avenues. Just because you disagree with the message doesn't mean the message is hate. You think these people are positive?

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Submitted by muddle on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 2:46pm.

Wow! If you were to work up a profile--age, gender, race, political views, background circumstances--from the average perpetrator in such a crime, you would wind up describing this guy to a T. He could be the poster boy for this crime.

Oh By Jingo

Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 1:00pm.

He doesn't deserve to ROT in prison.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 1:16pm.

An even better punishment for this homophobic guy would be for a burly, prison dude to take a liking to him in the prison shower and make him his b****.

Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 1:37pm.

Then kill the SOB with a 12 guage and a poor shot. Turn him into a "bleeder".

Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 1:30pm.

But I sure do like your way of thinking!! That would be justice--and if the burly guy wanted to share with his equally burly fellow inmates that would be even better.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:42pm.

A real tragedy for that community and for church-goers, of all religions, who just want to worship in peace, and safety.

I find it so ironic, however, that this wacko was being sustained by a socialist/liberal program (foodstamps) that was part of the 'liberal movement' that he so viciously despises. And also, could have used the help of the dreaded ACLU to assist him in NOT being discriminated against, while job hunting at the age of 58.

His horrible, destructive, murderous rant, doesn't make sense.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 12:55pm.

in the head.
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