Murder arrest in PTC bar fight

Tue, 07/08/2008 - 4:38pm
By: Cal Beverly

Red Room murder suspect_Scott, Jeremy

by Cal Beverly & John Munford

A Fairburn man charged with murder for assaulting a Hampton man at a Peachtree City nightclub turned himself in early Tuesday afternoon, Peachtree City Police Chief H.C. “Skip” Clark said.

Jeremy Scott, 22, of Elder Street, Fairburn, is charged in the murder of Devan Abercrombie, 32, of Hampton, police said. Scott is also charged with aggravated assault for the incident which occurred outside The Red Room bar in the Westpark Walk shopping center, police said.

Abercrombie died of brain injuries Saturday at an Atlanta hospital, one week after the attack. A witness told The Citizen that Abercrombie was “sucker-punched” in the side of his jaw by a black man.

“Devan fell to the ground, then attempted to get back up and went into a seizure,” said the witness, Kristin White, 23, of Fayetteville. She said the back of his head was “just pouring out blood” after striking the pavement.

The incident occurred after Abercrombie intervened on behalf of a friend who was being “picked on” by seven or eight guys, White said.

This is the city’s first homicide in two years.

Clark said that between 25 and 30 witnesses were interviewed by police during the investigation, as it was difficult to find “credible” witnesses because so many of the people there had been drinking.

Police announced Tuesday that a second suspect connected to the incident was arrested Monday. James Armond Blackmon, 23, of Peeks Crossings, Senoia, was arrested and charged with making false statements and writings.

Abercrombie, described by friends as a free spirit, “defended” his friend verbally, White said, then turned to walk away. As he did, one of the group of young black men “sucker-punched” Abercrombie in the side of the jaw, knocking him to the pavement, White said.

White, who said she knows cardiopulmonary resuscitation, said she checked his pulse and breathing and that both were OK. But she and another friend were having to hold Abercrombie down because he was experiencing a seizure.

The group of “seven or eight” young black men “split before the cops got there,” White said. She said she had been told one person ran after the departing group to try to stop them, but himself got “beat up.”

An ambulance transported Abercrombie to Piedmont Fayette Hospital, where he was then carried by LifeFlight helicopter to Grady Hospital in Atlanta.

Swelling of the brain started Tuesday, White said, and Abercrombie was taken off life support Saturday morning.

White said she, Devan and a close friend he called “his brother” went to the Red Room Friday night, June 27. White said she doesn’t drink and was the “designated driver” for the group. She said Abercrombie had been out of work for “a couple of months” and had no automobile or driver’s license.

Devan “wasn’t drunk,” White said, and used no derogatory or racial language in coming to the defense of his friend who was being accosted “over a couple of girls.”

The bar was closing, White said, and a number of people who had been drinking the past several hours were ushered out the door into the Westpark parking lot, White said. That was when the trouble started, she said.

During the altercation, White said, security personnel at the bar made no attempt to intervene or help. She asked for help, White said, but “the bouncer” said, “Past this gate is Peachtree City’s problem.”

“They stood at that gate and watched the whole thing,” White said. The “gate” refers to a waist-high iron railing around the front of the Red Room.

White said she believes the man who struck her friend was wearing brass knuckles, because it took only one unexpected punch to send Abercrombie crashing to the pavement so hard that he suffered a wound to the back of his head, away from where the punch had been landed. “You could hear his head hit” the pavement, White said.

White said she was unsure whether there was any racial component to the altercation. She said Abercrombie used no racial slurs.

Abercrombie had been estranged from his parents for several years, White said, and had been living with various friends over the past several months, the latest being a husband and wife near Jonesboro.

Abercrombie had been laid off from his “arms department” job at Fort Benning, outside Columbus, Ga., earlier this year, White said.

White, an eyewitness, said she and others had had trouble initially getting any information about police follow-up because the incident happened on a weekend and no one was available at the police department to get or give information.

Whitney Groce, 24, of Fayetteville, said Abercrombie was a friend of hers for “years and years” and they even had a child together, Jaden Groce, who’s 3 years old.

Groce said Abercrombie was proud of his daughter, though he wasn’t able to be a parent very much. She also said he was a good listener and helped others get their mind off of their problems.

“He was a major part of my life and it’s just so so sad that he’s gone,” Groce said. Groce said Abercrombie had many friends.

“It didn’t matter who you were or how he felt about you, he always made sure he took care of you,” Groce said.

Susan Smith, who worked with Abercrombie at the Publix grocery store just outside Peachtree City seven years ago, said she kept in touch with him through the years.

“He had a heart of gold and he would do anything for anyone,” Smith said.

The last murder in Peachtree City was in October 2006 when April Dawn Ulrich shot and killed her ex-husband Eric Ulrich in the parking lot of the NCR campus. Ulrich pled guilty just before the trial was about to start and was sentenced to life in prison.

The official account of Abercrombie’s injury from the Peachtree City Police Department follows:

On Saturday, June 28, 2008, at approximately 2:36 a.m., the Peachtree City Police Department responded to a report of a fight in progress call at the Red Room located in the West Park Walk Shopping Center.

Officers received a report that two subjects were physically assaulted by an unknown person(s) when they exited the bar. Witnesses at the scene reported that, at the time of the assaults, a crowd had gathered in front of the establishment.

One of the injured, Devan Abercrombie (32 years of age) of Hampton, Ga., was transported by life flight (helicopter) to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment. On July 5, 2008, the Police Department was notified that at approximately 1:20 p.m., Mr. Abercrombie succumbed to his injuries and died.

At the request of the Fayette County Coroner’s Office an autopsy has been ordered by the Georgia Bureau of Investigations.

With the assistance of the Fairburn Police Department, Jeremy Scott, age 22, of Elder Street, Fairburn, Ga. was arrested [Tuesday] for felony murder and aggravated assault. He is being held at the Fayette County Jail awaiting a Magistrate Court appearance scheduled for July 9, 2008 at 2 p.m. The Fayette County Magistrate Court is located in the Fayette County Court House, 1 Center Drive, Fayetteville, Ga.

If anyone has information regarding this investigation, they are encouraged to contact the Peachtree City Criminal Investigations Division at 770-631-2510, or the Crime and Narcotics Information Hotline at 770-487-6010. You may remain anonymous.

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Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 11:58pm.

Please look at this link. Thomas is a murderer. Not Scott.

Submitted by ds1011 on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 8:42pm.

First and foremost stop arguing about somenthing that everyone doesen't know all the details about! Jeremy has a little boy who he loves and was a good dad i dont know about the supose "victim" but from what i hear he did or he was just a sperm donor. I'm actually the girlfriend of 4 years of the guy who was charged with false statement and is now having to do time which is dumb considering you dont see anyone doing time for false statement! Fayette county is racist period but this has nothing to do with the fact that this was an accident people JEREMY didnt mean to kill anybodynobody wants to have that on their mind better yet go to jail! It was really sad that someones life was lost over an arguement but think about it anybody can turn around and change their life or way maybe not when you passed away but deff if you get a chance to get out an make changes like hopefully jeremy will get the chance to do! My boyfriend/fiance james B. the other guy that was arrested doesent derserve to be in there for that but nobody seems to care about that! SO please stop judging these guys an stop judging jeremy for "murder" murder is an action that is usually planned an that obiously wasant on purpose it was just a sad accident!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont plan on getting bak on here so no need to write me bak but i just hope you see where im coming from!

Submitted by whitegirl2008 on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 8:52am.


Submitted by AMS123 on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 10:52am.

You were there the week of the fight? Ok but were you there the night of the fight? Obviously you were not! How can you get on here pointing fingers if you witnessed NOTHING!!

He is dead now. And you have nothing better to do then get on here and talk about how he always got drunk and had a bad temper and non sense like that. That's like you dying and one of your "so called friends" getting on here posting a comment saying... "I really loved my friend, but the bitch could not spell!!!"

Maybe this guy is not a murderer, probably not. Yeah, he probably did not know that a stupid punch to Devan's face was going to kill him, but that's not the point. The point is, now he is dead. Not only that, now his children have to grow up without their father.

So in your words: He had a heart of gold and and he was very loving but he was a violent drunk. Which one is it????

Next time you think about leaving a comment for someone, try to make since, cause when you can not spell, and it's all in caps, it is really hard for someone to understand. Also, it's really wrong for you to get on here talking about he was your friend and you love him, but you also degrade him. I think we call that a BACK STABBER in this day and age!

Submitted by whitegirl2008 on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 9:09am.

Look if my spelling, hurt you in any way, to bad. I was not trying to write an English paper. The truth is bad for Devan and everyone on here was just over looking it. I am his friend and he had a problem that needed help and no one did anything. Not even me. But the whole thing is crazy and I wish it never happened. But have a good day and hope you get that stick out of your ass.

Submitted by Shhhh on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 2:11am.

If you knew him- You know what she said was right. You can call her a Back-Stabber all you want but... You know it's the truth.

I knew of him. I would never call him my friend because I do not associate myself with people like that.

He did nothing but sit at the pool hall and drink and take drugs for the last 5 years that I personally know of. From what I've read- It's been longer than that.

People who liked him don't want to admit to the fact that he was a drug addict nor hat he provoked people because it will make them into a "back stabber." To you I say: Get out of denial.

Saying that he was a outstanding citizen is far from the truth and you know that. He had no car, no license, no job, and was a dead-beat dad. He had very bad substance abuse problems.

Nobody deserves to die... But did he deserved to be punched? Probably.

If you really knew him- You know it's true.

Jeremy had a kid, too. The only difference between Jeremy and Devan was that Jeremy was ACTIVE in his kid's life. What can you say about Devan? (Besides the fact that he had multiple kids, no job, no car, no license [thus I don't see how he could pay child support], a huge substance abuse problem, and was doing nothing to change his situation besides sitting at the bar drinking and popping whatever pills he could find to get as high as he could...)

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 12:50pm.

"try to make since" or sense?

"talking about he was your friend"?

Thanks also for the gratuitous cussing in the second paragraph.

If you live in a glasshouse keep all of your boulders cemented to the ground.

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Submitted by TonyF on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 11:40am.

I'll whisper. Before you berate someone for spelling(and grammar, usage, syntax et al), you should proofread your composition. I knew this could be an embarrassment so I tried to keep my voice down. I know 3rd grade English is a tough subject so I'll just let it go at maybe you should have asked your mom to help.
Ok, now I'm ready for your profanity laced reply. Let me have it. Oh, by the way, say hello to the kettle for me.
p.s. Did it take you all this time to read that post?

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

Submitted by Spyglass on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 9:36am.

And then you post this drivel.

By the way, learn to use paragraphs and turn off the all caps, it makes for much easier reading.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 12:00pm.

Some are just a little slower to post.Smiling
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Submitted by Laura Gayle Blalock on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 5:48pm.

If anyone was at the Red Room and saw the fight who would be willing to talk with our attorney, please email me at We are seeking the truth.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:08pm.

The sad truth is that two young lives have been lost...Devan's and Jeremy's for all intents and purposes.
Jeremy is not guilty of murder, but he is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. And he will do time. And he will have to live with the fact that he killed someone for the rest of his life.
I wonder if any young men present at the incident or reading these blogs has in any way learned anything from this?

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Submitted by SouthernBelle on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:30pm.

I am only going to say this: Just stop. Stop it all. JUST STOP. Jeremy will come home, someday... Devan, he won't, he is gone from this earth forever. So stop.

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 4:14pm.

EDITED for language

my name is nick penson, i was @ the red room that night. i was one of the 7 0r 8 "black guys" ( racist ***** )that was standing out there "picking on devan". first off, no one was picking on him. we didnt even care about him, he was just outside drunk and talking **** to "one" of the " black guys " that was outside. he started the whole thing, he was trying to fight everyone that was close to him. we all just thought it was funny. i was standing about 5-10ft away form devan the whole time. it all started with two girls (the only thing she said right). my cousin was talking to one of them when someone approched (not devan) and started arguing. i dont know if it was serious or not, didnt seem to be though. after a few seconds of talking, devan steps in and starts talking **** to my cousin, and one of the "black guys" that was standing close by, seen the action so he decided to step in and see what was going on. devan started arguing back and forth with him as if they were about to fight. he kept insisting that he could beat the black guys ass, even while people were pulling him away trying to tell him to stop. the "black guy" was telling him no your not going to kick my ass because "we were too deep" ( too many of his "friends" were there with him). devan still insisted on fighting. for what, i dont know. he was the agressor though not jeremy or any of the other "black guys" that was out there. after watching his cousin arguing for about 3-5minutes, jeremey steped in to break it up. he put his hand around his cousins back and told him to let it go, and to come on. they both turned to leave, (as did the rest of the crowd that was watching the event)and started walking away. devan proceded to follow them both, still treatning to kick there asses. trying to ignore devans "stupid behavior", "THEY" stated waliking away. after about 2-3 steps devan (still following and being pulled on) decided to get bold and said, "F*** YA'LL STUPID ASS N*****S". JEREMY almost instantly tured to punch him in the mouth. it wasnt a great hit but it made good contact. devan instantly lost expression on his face and fell stiff as a board onto the back of his head. he hit the ground and everyone got silent for about 5 seconds cause they thought they were about to fight. he didnt bet up, people started to run to him to check him out, and he didnt move. everyone really thought it was funny cause he was tlking all that **** and got knocked out in one punch. we all said, " oh well i guess thats it" and started to leave. noone thought it was serious untill they said he was bleeding from the back of his head. they got towels and rags and started moving him around (witch could have killed him)to get him to respond. i left to find my ride befor the cops came to ask questions. i was in violation of possesion so i didnt want to stay around. befor i left i went to go see him again and by this time he had went into a sezier (wihch he already had a condition with) and started shaking.after that i left, everyone else did so too. so as far as im concerned, he should not have been trying to be a bad ass and he wouldn't have gottn hit. he had numerus oppertunities to prevent himsrlf from getting involved in a fight. if anything he was drunk and picking on peolpe. so bottom line, anyone of us could have thrown the punch and be facing the same charges. so is jeremy really a murderer..., NO. how can you let a man who beats his wife for no reason only serve a few weeks in jail, but try to put a man in jail for hitting another man who was verbally abusing him? that not justice. to all of you who post jeremeys background, that is irrelevent to the facts. you call me a stupid n****r and you will get hit too. altough he was being an idiot, my condolences go out to the family and kids. but to the other poster who are posting rediculous comments about that night, you need to stop, because you dont know what you are talking about. so please for the sake of every on involved leave the opinons out.

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Submitted by His Word on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:34am.

And Jesus said:

"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Matthew 5:39

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Submitted by MajorMike on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 10:53am.

It's kind of hard to turn the other cheek when you're dead. Besides, if the involved parties had been "resisting evil" at any stage, none of this would have happened, would it? Your pacifist "bible thumping" philosophy is a great part of what's wrong with society today.

I urge all law abiding residents of Fayette County to obtain a Concealed Carry permit and arm yourselves. Statistics have shown us that crime goes up when the general public is disarmed and crime goes down when a populace is well armed. Now that's truly "resisting evil"! Force the "thugs" and low lifes to stay away from Fayette.

Submitted by Spyglass on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:18am.

Your entire group seems to have one.

Your entire group would have been better served to stick around and talk to the Police that night, in my opinion. But I guess folks with "was in violation of possesion" don't like to talk with the Police. I've noticed that the guilty seem to flee the scene.

I've heard this saying all my life, "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me". Your group should learn to live by that.

I, like others, wonder why you enjoy coming to PTC? I do not enjoy being in the company of people with behavior such as you or your group of friends.

Submitted by kikenbutt on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:53am.

You can't be this, this is a joke right?

Is Sage really gone? Or are we experiencing a new Sage psyche?

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 8:58pm.

You never, ever, never ever ever ever admit to being in "viloation" of anything in a public setting like this. Everything you write hear could come bite you in the backside. Oh man! You have to ignore the race baiters here because they are drawing you into a situation where your words can be used against you.

And, if you really care about the family of Devan, it's best to not write 99% of what you wrote. Let this be tried in court. Nothing good will come of comments here. Nothing. The best thing to do for the family of the deceased and the other folks involved is to say nothing at all.

Kevin "Hack" King

Submitted by Spyglass on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:19am.

of your advice. Use it on someone who will listen.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:22am.

You wouln't want him to be held accountable for breaking the law.

This is why young black men think they can do whatever they want, because people like you encourage their antisocial behavior.

Would you have encouraged him if he was white?

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Submitted by TonyF on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 5:29am.

You disappoint me.

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 12:19pm.

"And, if you really care about the family of Devan, it's best to not write 99% of what you wrote. Let this be tried in court. Nothing good will come of comments here. Nothing. The best thing to do for the family of the deceased and the other folks involved is to say nothing at all."

Might want to read my words again.

Skyspy: What have I encouraged? Illegal activity? Or have I encouraged someone to hold their tongue? Here is how I look at the situation: Witnesses to a horrible situation and news paper spectators have fanned the emotional flames into an inferno. Instead of chastising someone without even knowing the facts, I'll offer the advice to :
1) Ignore "RACE BAITERS" who are suggesting to Fayette County citizens that moving away from black people eliminates the risk of being victimized by crime. And ignore the "RACE BAITERS" who have framed this as a group of black men beating to death a white man.

2) Respect the family of the deceased by not commenting on the specifics of the altercation, but rather let the legal system and courts do their job.

Tony and Skyspy, if you two see no measured reason in my comments, that's fine. I will have no problem whatsoever living under the shadow of your disappointment.


Kevin "Hack" King

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Fri, 07/18/2008 - 7:47pm.

At least give your intended target enough consideration to hang around for the ensuing game of catch. You claimed that I'm encouraging criminal behavior and insinuated that it was because the other party in my conversation was black. Your post again:

"Cheer him on Hack:
You wouln't want him to be held accountable for breaking the law.

This is why young black men think they can do whatever they want, because people like you encourage their antisocial behavior.

Would you have encouraged him if he was white?"

Skyspy, I asked you:

What illegal activity have I encouraged?

As for your question, would I give such advice (for someone to hold their tongue) if he was white, just look back at the blogs. You are no rookie. I believe you know the answer to your own question and you know that answer won't help your ethnocentric argument. When two young men were racing near McIntosh High and one wrecked, do yu remember the advice I gave Idrivefast about not incriminating himself on a public blog? In the posts that followed the terrible car accident on HWY 74 north of HWY 54 that sadly ended two lives, do you not remember comments I made about folks not airing dirty laundry in public, but letting the legal system work?

You see, Skyspy, just because this world has become black and white to you doesn't mean that anyone else has to follow suit. And when you hurl such bitter insults and insinuations at someone, especially someone you know, at least have the decency to answer a direct question.

Again, if you are accusing me of encouraging illegal activity from someone because they are black, show me where I have done that. Support what you say.

As people here talk themselves into a frenzy and debate whether or not it's time to move, do you see yourself as part of the solution or part of the problem?

Hope you decide to come back and support the claims you make against me. And if folks think it's time to leave, I recommend they not go to


Kevin "Hack" King

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 07/18/2008 - 10:43pm.

I have read your words again:

"Nick, Nick, Nick"

"You never, ever, never, ever, ever admit to being in "violation" of anything in a public setting like this. Everything you write here could come bite you in the backside. Oh man!"

The message I got from this is:

Geee, not so bad that you were in violation of possession (even though by your own admission) you have been in jail once. Please don't admit to it here in a public forum where the cops could read it. You could get in trouble, and then you would be held accountable for being "in violation of possession". Geee, wouldn't want you to have to learn right from wrong.

These "race baiters tricked you into it" Um, yeah, good one.

I think a better message would have been:

Dude, you have already been in jail once. Now you admit that you were in "violation of possession" in a public forum. Was jail fun for you?? Why would you risk your freedom by hanging out with people who will only get you in trouble?

That would have sent this Nick kid the message that he is going down the wrong path and nobody thinks it's cool.

Keep the venom coming, but you are still one of my favorite neighbors and I consider you a get over here for a drink so we don't have to debate all of this in the blogs.

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Submitted by SouthernBelle on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:00pm.

That's what I've been saying!!!

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

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Submitted by The Crime Dog on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 10:01pm.

I respect the pain Devan's family has been through. But to turn a blind eye to the truth, or a version of it, just because it hurts?

Put yourself in Nick's shoes. Would you "back up" your buddy on the blogs? H--- yeah you would!

And I agree with Sick of Facists. EVERYONE who's young and impetuous can learn a lesson from this. Lay off the dope, temper your boozin' and live another day to take care of those you love.

Devan can't do that anymore, and Jeremy may be on the ropes with that depending on what happens in court. Here's praying there's justice for all.

Remember Hack and SouthernBelle: without truth there is no justice.

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Submitted by SouthernBelle on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 11:10pm.

I don't think I've said anything to warrant your comment to me. I asked that the back and forth without respect for the DEAD stop. His side of the story is just that, his side.

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

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Submitted by The Crime Dog on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 8:49pm.

Thanks for having the courage to tell us what you saw that night, even if Nick isn't your real name.

You weren't the only one to bolt the scene. The witness quoted in the story didn't even stick around. Wonder what contraband she had (or how high/drunk she was) that she couldn't tell the cops?

I do hope you're speaking the truth, as that *should* count for something in a court of law.

Based on your account, Devan was the instigator of the altercation. If so, what an idiot. He didn't deserve to die, but he deserved to be slugged, if what you're saying is true.

And Nick, don't let the racist PRI**ks here get ya down. Their opinions won't matter unless they make your friend's jury.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 10:18am.

he deserved to be slugged

He should have been ignored and none of this would have happened.
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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 8:08pm.

After years of living in South Louisiana and frequenting the Big Easy for some so-called good times, I've never seen anything good come out of partying with dope and booze. I've seen too many lives ruined, witnessed needless, horrific and tragic fights. Watched a man 20 years old die in a parking lot from a beer bottle to the side of the head, cleaned up a suicide mess created after a .20 gauge disintegrated a doped up family member's head all over 3 rooms in a house, and I'm ashamed of some of the places I've gone to and events I've witnessed. By the grace of God I emerged from those pits unscathed and am ever so convinced that our world is plagued by an evil that relishes destroying the lives of people like Devan, Jeremy and Nick.

The night of the Red Room is a classic example of events that transpires in these places all too often. As far as I'm concerned every one involved in this altercation has blood on their hands. And if Devan's mouth was as foul as Nick described then it's no wonder cooler heads didn't prevail. Jeremy has to pay his willing participation in this fiasco and perhaps Nick might also to some degree.

All I can say is "What a waste of many lives". Nick.... flee the lifestyle while you can brother.... before it's too late.

Remember... Life and death 'do-overs' are for the most part non-existent.

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Submitted by JacquesMolay on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 7:38pm.

I hope your statement that you gave the police matches this one. Even you have stated that Jeremy was the physical agressor. Your own comments indicate that no one felt "threatened" by Devan due to you guys having a superior number. So, if Jeremy wasn't threatened the only reason he hit him was because he did not like what Devan was saying. Nice try Nick, but that is murder. I can't wait to hear your testimony and explain to Jeremy that you just assisted in his conviction. You just make Ballard's job alot easier. Please keep blogging and tell us what kind of possesion you were guilty of. Was it alcohol or narcotics. The jail is located on Johnson Avenue in Fayetteville, please feel free to check yourself in!!!

Submitted by lillady on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:21pm.

Are the reason that I find myself (at times)embarrassed to be a person of color!!! Your angry violent attitude, not to mention the clear deficit in education makes me cringe. You "my friend" and those who think like you (regardless of race) are the reason this country has gone to hell in a hand basket!! You probably don't have a job and likely still live at home. Even more frightening is the thought that you have probably already procreated (God forbid!).

When you can get to the point when you realize that there is more to life than the "Street Code of Honor" then you will be taken seriously until that day...

educate yourself, stay out of jail (if you can) and be a productive member of society and not the burden that you have already proven yourself to be!!!!!

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:31pm.

i made a 1370 on my sats, whith a 3.2 gpa, so i aint as dumb as your uneducated guess leads you to belive, DELETED the typing errors, i dont care. you can sy what you want about me, but that still dosnt cage the fact that the dude was in the wrong. and also, i have only been to jail one time in my life dud, so dont judge me, im much more resonable than you think. if he had half the sense i got, then we would not be having this conversation. bureden? thats what you are with your stupid comments

Nick, you broke the language rule again, so you're gone. (Just an aside -- you'd think someone with a 1370 SAT score would know by now that certain words are just unacceptable, making that person unacceptable as well).

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 8:36pm.

Thank you for the gratuitous foul language.

All you have done tonight is:

1. bascially give enough evidence to convict your friend and yourself, and the other thugs that were with you.

2. you have promoted the negative stereotype that people have of black Americans.

"I was in violations of "possesion" so I didn't want to stay around "

In possession of what? drugs? or were you a convicted felon in possession of a firearm? Which is it??

Submitted by lillady on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:54pm.

Was that on the correctional facility's version of the SATs?!


Yeah, I guess it was the S.A.T. a'la Cell Block D version hence your extremely high score...


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Submitted by Get Smart on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:57pm.

he will go back to the "Big House" and finish his education.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:49pm.

1370? Is that on the old 1600 point system or the new 2400 point system?

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Submitted by Get Smart on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:48pm.

Gee, imagine that.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:42pm.

At what point did you make the decision to become a two-bit hood?

Did your mother teach you to hit people who say things you dislike?

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Submitted by ptcgv on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:51pm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Guess math wasn't one of your best subjects either.

I think you left out a decimal point.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:40pm.

Brother man, quit throwing fuel on the fire. You have stated your case, and in between the anger, I saw your side of it. People on these blogs do jump to conclusions, but you are too. This form of communication has its good points, but it is exceedingly limited when it comes to communicating one's feelings, and then we try to make the words do that, some with eloquence and others with plain old street talk. Find your own peace within yourself, that is what is truly yours and needs no explanation.

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:51pm.

thank you

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Submitted by Get Smart on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:36pm.

A real genius eh? Gee, your grammar and spelling says otherwise.

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:41pm.

oh my baaad i didnt know i had to use spell check. my fault

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:56pm.

Your syllogism is disquieting.

In response to your bold statement "you call me a stupid n****r and you will get hit too", I can only ask what exactly would you prefer to be called should you act like a "stupid n****r"? I'm content to leave race out of it and just call you stupid. Do you threaten physical violence for that too?

Aren't there plenty of places where you can cavort with like-minded persons wherein all agree on these crappy little street codes and punching and stepping on sneakers and whatnot? Considering most of us think and live differently, why exactly are you here?

Oh, and American law tends to disagree with your vigilante stance on physical violence in response to spoken words -- however hurtful those words may be.

And thanks for blaming the victim, douchebag.

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:22pm.

well im not on the side of anyone really, i just told you what i saw. if you dont like it dont read it. your boi was in the wrong, and no it was not just about words. by law, he was being the aggressor to the whole thing, so really it was more of self defense, if you come at me screaming, i would hit you, douchbag

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Submitted by Get Smart on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:31pm.

he was being the aggressor

You are some kind of lawyer.

Submitted by lillady on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:29pm.

Mr. Penson, unfortunately, just because you are familiar with the court system does not mean you know "the law" so I suggest ou stop disseminating misinformation about the law.

I guess you knew the law when you were arrested for possession as well!!...

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:29pm.

YOU said it was about words, not me. Refocus on the part where I quoted what YOU wrote.

What law exactly are you misinterpreting to the degree that you feel empowered to hit somebody for screaming?

You don't get to kill somebody because they're being the agressor in a yelling match. Do you really need me to clarify that for you?

So ... why do you live here, friend? The pastoral setting? The comraderie with other professional pilots? The prototopic lifestyle?

Why are you here, Nick?

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:38pm.

who was there, you or me. and making treats of violence was what he was im here so you all can stop prottecting the one who was at fault

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:58pm.

Failure to communicate.

Nick, I wonder if we aren't failing to communicate with each other. I interpreted your initial statement and subsequent remarks as blaming the victim and finding your friend Jeremey faultless.

Was that what you were trying to communicate?

Clearly, you describe the victim as being a total asshole that night. I wasn't there and never met the man. Maybe you're right. Wouldn't be the first time a drunk acted like an asshole.

Do you feel that dying was, perhaps, a high price to pay for assholery? I do.

You may well contend that Jeremy didn't intend for the guy to die. I would believe that.

Devan has paid the ultimate price -- and for something that usually only results in waking up with a headache.

What price do YOU think Jeremy should pay for his part?

Submitted by Shhhh on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 5:02pm.

Obviously the whole situation would have been better to have been avoided... But I think the point that some are trying to make is that Devin was not completely innocent in the ordeal.

Death is never a good thing. When a person runs a stop sign and kills someone, should the driver serve life in prison for accidentally killing someone? The driver meant to run the stop sign- which is illegal. Do they deserve a murder charge or an involuntary manslaughter charge?

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:06pm.

Are these posts a race to the bottom or what? The "banned , edited, deleted" body count is staggering.

Kevin "Hack" King

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 10:29pm.

Would underscores or dollarsigns have kept me somewhere above the bottom?

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 7:08pm.

I think we're getting the other side of the story now, and about time.

It would appear that two guys got to woofing at each other in a bar parking lot, one of them decks the other with a single punch (no "brass knuckles"...I always thought that little detail was a crock).

He didn't mean to kill him OBVIOUSLY, what many people don't realize is that yes, you can kill someone with one punch. Most of the time it's not the punch, it's the fall.

I'm not a legal expert but this strikes me as a case of involuntary manslaughter.

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Submitted by simpleton on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:08pm.

Finally a voice of reason rather than fear, anger and hatred. It seemed far-fetched to me to believe that Jeremy Scott "murdered" Devan and the use of the word was more than irking me. "Murder" seems to imply intent and from what I've read it's quite clear that there was no such intent. Particularly when it was only one punch and the "suspect" even turned himself in. Brass knuckles? Doubtful. Everyone appears to have missed the point entirely. What transpired outside the Red Room doors was an accident (despite the punch heard round the world) and a tragedy for all involved. To say nothing of the children of both Devan AND Jeremy Scott. Besides, whether or not Jeremy Scott was a model citizen prior to the incident (and it looks as though he wasn't - nor was, I gather, the victim) even an angry, bitter screw-up is likely to feel remorse for having taken someone's life, regardless of what that person had drunkenly shouted at him. It may haunt him for the rest of his life.
As for Nick, the reactions he's receiving are ridiculous. Obviously he came on here to defend his friend and to try to give his side of the story and he's greeted with a mob of hateful bloggers who belittle him for not being an English professor. Personally I'd have a hard time staying silent if I were in his position and his anger, albeit juvenile, is not unfounded. But the angry remarks directed back at him are every bit as juvenile. His IQ shouldn't be on trial here.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:29pm.

I think if ole Nick had come on here and calmly explained without the attitude and profanity and anger he would have been received a little better.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by simpleton on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:40pm.

That doesn't excuse the behavior of the regular bloggers.

But perhaps I just expected more out of them.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:51pm.

Based on past blogs of very similar nature, he was treated kindly.
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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:25pm.

Sooooo, lets see if I have this right:

It's ok for one of the thugs involved to be angry??

It's not ok for the innocent citizens of PTC who have had their city trashed by hoodlums to be angry?? We should not be angry that an increase in crime has been thrust upon us??


Can I get some of what you are smoking?

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Submitted by simpleton on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:37pm.

Sure, be all the angry you want.
The obnoxious part about the whole thing were the immediate personal attacks on the friend of the accused, as it were. I am as angry as anyone that I will likely have to make the "fight or flight" decision myself and either buy a gun or leave the area. But Devan's death was unintentional. It was not murderous thuggery that cost him his life, it was alcoholic idiocy. To still sit back and rant and rave and point fingers at all the other races and call people names is just childish.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 9:16pm.

Some bloggers tend to attack like piranha. I think Nick's account makes clear (as did the initial account by the girl) that neither individual was behaving appropriately, and that murder is not what went down. The whole thing is a shame. A waste of two lives and truly sad for their children, both of whom will grow up without fathers.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 7:18pm.

Contrition and not increasing aggression are in order. I believe the lack of contrition and the hostile perspective are why Nick was received so badly here today.

Sadly, I suspect he may interpret this all as being further proof of Fayette County's racism towards blacks.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:49pm.

If you remember the guy you say is at fault is dead, too late to protect him, and the one who threw the punch is the one at fault, spin that.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:49pm.

Your obscene and uneducated typewritten blog is a pretty good indicator of what kind of trash was coming out of your mouths that night. Sad thing is that your cousin's stupidity earned him three hots and a cot for a real long time.

Submitted by Shhhh on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 9:39am.

Since you are SOOOOOOOOO smart, Mr. PTCTaxPayer... Why don't you tell me the difference between "Your" and "You're"?

Well... Apparently you don't know the difference so let me explain it to you. "Your" shows possession. "You're" is the same as "you are."

It's unfortunate that you can call people obscene, uneducated, and stupid when you don't even know that basic English lesson.

Don't blame it on a type-o, either. You did it twice.

Why don't you just get off YOU'RE high-horse? Smiling

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 10:44am.

You might want to reread his post, he used the correct your. Face it, YOU'RE wrong in YOUR accusation.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Submitted by Shhhh on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 3:54pm.

Good call. I thought you almost had me! Then I looked at it again... I actually saw the first, incorrect "your" in the title and just assumed that the second one said the same thing! The title is using the incorrect version of "your" when he titled his post: "Your obscene and uneducated."

I guess it goes to show... "When you assume..."

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 4:39pm.

No exceptions here, he didn't title anything, if you don't title it YOURself, it does it for you. If you'll notice this title, you might see what I mean, but then again, maybe not.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Submitted by MYTMITE on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 4:35pm.

His your in the title was correct. "Your obscene and uneducated" .....this sentence just continued on into the body of the blog and was correct usage as was his second use of your. Sorry.

Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 11:56pm.

I really wasn't sure after popeye posted his reply but after I read YOUR post agreeing with him- It became clear that he was right. It was a very necessary and I thank you so much! I don't know what I would do without YOUR help!!!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/01/2008 - 4:42pm.

We can try, but I don't think it will help, it's like talking identities with nitboinkers.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 11:52pm.

I'm sorry. I don't blog all day long so I didn't know. Ooopsies. Smiling

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 5:07am.

I don't blog all day either but I know the difference between your and you're.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 10:31pm.

Say the correct definations of "your" and "you're"? As for the last, incorrect use- I'm realizing that sarcasm is hard to portray in a blog...

Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 10:31pm.

Say the correct definations of "your" and "you're"? As for the last, incorrect use- I'm realizing that sarcasm is hard to portray in a blog...

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 4:59am.

You seem to be able to define them, you just don't seem to be able to apply them.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:18pm.

hes not my cousin jack ass, if your so smart why couldnt you read that?

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:46pm.

So you are one of the guys the cops are looking for??


I'm tinkerbell and my assistant sugarbell will be along shortly. Then we will click our heels twice and wave a wand and.........pooof........your story will be believable and fix all of the spelling/typo errors.

Have you turned yourself in to the cops yet??

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:16pm.

i called them , after all the flase info was put out fyi

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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:25pm.

That was interesting, to read another perspective on this whole thing.

a question for you Nick... do you know if Jeremy was wearing brass knuckles like some have suggested?

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Submitted by nickpenson on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 6:17pm.

no he was not, that was stupid to suggest that he was

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Submitted by ptcgv on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:33pm.

He doesn't know anything about the brass knuckles.

He's too busy trying to find out how to insert a paragraph, looking for proper punctuation, and that all evasive "spell check" button.

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:31pm.

Penson "testimony" above your comment, sure is different than his "character witnesses" who said he was a wonderful most loving, caring, generous person! Or something to that effect.
Sure will be interesting to see how many lies are told at court.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:05pm.

Well now, lets just see how this plays out in court then.
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Submitted by mh789 on Wed, 07/09/2008 - 5:10pm.

I have went through and read everybodys comment and for the most part I think you all are just rediculous. I happen to know Jeremy and all I have to say about him is he is not a killer. Have any of you, including the victims friends thought about what he was doing to instigate this fight?? I am very sorry that somebody has lost there life but with all do respect your telling me this man with no job, no car, and no license was at the red room and was not drinking?? Be foreal. And as far as the peachtree city police department goes, they have taken 30 reports from "UNRELIABLE" sources and thrown a story together. I mean if you really read this article it sounds like a fiction story made up by and Joe out there. But respectfully somebody has lost there life and friends and family members of course want to put the blam on whoever they feel. Wrongful death lawsuit..yeah sounds resonable because if this man would have not been able to get drunk in this bar and walk outside thinking he was superman and TRY to pick a fight with these other men, this whole thing would have been avoided. IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME QUITE ANGER THAT YOU RACIST JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE CAN SIT ON THE COMPUTER AND MAKE COMMENTS BY HEARING THIS STORY AFTER ITS BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY IDIOTS IN THE PEACHTREE CITY CITIZEN, THE PEACHTREE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE SCREWED UP JUDICIAL SYSTEM ALL OVER FAYETTE COUNTY. For the man whose label these men as thugs, low lifes and whatever else you had to say..why is that?? Because they were at the bar enjoying themselves just like everybody else?? or BECAUSE THERE BLACK MEN?? I think people need really get theres thoughts together before just saying anything because if this would have been a WHITE ON BLACK CRIME THIS ABSOLUTLY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN A DISCUSSION!!!! AND THAT IS A FACT HERE IN FAYETTE COUNTY!

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 5:59pm.

You kill somebody.

Really, mh789. That's how it works. Jeremy is a killer.

Submitted by Shhhh on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 5:05pm.

Because she ran a stop sign when she was 17 and killed someone...

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Submitted by diva on Tue, 10/07/2008 - 6:25am.

It was Laura Bush, the first lady, in high school. It's silly to think of her as a "killer." Just someone who had a negligent lapse in judgement when they were pretty young.

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