Because I was actually thinking about starting a blog, but your "late to the party with no contribution to the meal" post gives me an opportunity I appreciate.

What should a veteran do when a president LIES saying he "honors the dead" by giving up golfing because he doesn't want their families to see him out doing that in time of war?

What should a veteran do when the self-righteous, self-appointed party of God and all things "pro military" allows veterans at Walter Reed to exist in squaller?

What should a veteran do when troops return from Iraq to their sewage - filled, paint-peeling, dilapidated barracks at Fort Bragg?

What should veterans say when we all; ALL AMERICANS are INTENTIONALLY LIED TO and completely misled about the friendly fire death of Pat Tillman, yet NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THIS ADMINISTRATION?

Should we all bravely quit since speaking critically of authority is now unimaginable?

Will this be as much a republican double standard as we see in calls for tax record releases and scrutiny towards religious endorsements? Will this standard hold true for a president Clinton or Obama? bASSmstr, forgive me if I feel absolutely no shame for speaking critically of what I find truly disgusting, disingenuous, and gross mismanagement of this nation's best and brightest. And you will understand why I'll consider the cowardly complaints of conservatives more offended by my words than the dishonoring of fallen veterans and the misleading of their families, as hollow and empty rants from frustrated politicos.

Kevin "Hack" King

Deceased Servicemembers Incinerated At Pet Crematorium

Didn't Chimpy McFlightsuit originally campaign on "Restoring Dignity To Amurica"?

The avatar is merely an award winning photo of a graveside ceremony wherein a young boy (son of a fallen service member) is presented the flag from his father's casket.

The avatar has absolutely no connection to me personally. And as I said, I served 30 years and have retired. I can say whatever I want.

By contrast, currently serving military members are supposed to remain a-political.

By your accusation, you obviously do not know anything about the military. Stick to what you know.

From the other side of the tracks

You were just handed the rule book and shown how it differed from your opinion, yet you are saying to Locke, "stick to what you know?" That's funny, man. Really funny!

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

How about shooting me an email?

Ease up Hack. Not trying to "silence" you. Just trying to set the record straight here. The fact remains that you have been touting a military photo and blog name. It's a fair question.

You are not active duty. Fine. No need for the diatribe.

No one is denying you a right to your opinions Hack. However, you choose to do it while fluanting your military service.

Believe it or no Hack, I'm looking out for you here. I recommend you either tone it down, or remove the military connection. Otherwise, you leave yourself wide open to become a victim of your own doing. For example, how do you think your current chain of command would react to your public Bush-bashing postings? Like him or not, he is your commander-in-chief. I'm sure some would take a dim view of your activities.

You are free to voice your opinions. I just recommend you jettison the military trappings, lest you leave yourself open to scrutiny that might damage your career.

From the other side of the tracks

to present you brave military anti Clinton pro whatever Republicans do military guys with military avatars with the facts. Short memories you elephants have.

As for my superiors, and the "what will they think" line? USarmymaj has already gone there. If I don't make Lt. Col this year, I'll let you know if my saying George Bush makes a great dad but a horrible Commander in Chief had anything to do with it. You might be very surprised at how many of the people I work with describe our current umm... gentleman.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

ps: Nice military avatar
(anyone want two dogs???)

Hack,

As a civilain you have every right to speak your mind.

I still have a problem with someone still wearing the uniform albiet on weekends and drills or deployments attacking the President. I never publicly said one negative word about Clinton when I was still serving. Hack you are still serving.

While technically the UCMJ and applicable regulations -- does not prohibit reservists from engaging in political activity, you still disrespect the Commander in Chief. Disloyal?

Other side makes some valid points.

http://www.armytimes.com/community/ask_lawyer/military_askthelawyer_070827w/

From the article:

"I would point out that under Article 2 of the UCMJ, retired members of the military drawing pay, as well as active-duty service members, are subject to UCMJ provisions. So if you think retiring will allow you to escape UCMJ action, you are wrong.

My favorite UCMJ provision is Article 88, which makes it a crime for an officer to use contemptuous words against the president, the vice president, Congress, the secretary of defense, the secretary of a military department, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, or the governor or legislature of any state, territory, commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present"

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Fighting for truth, justice and the American way, while ignoring the ignorant!

Article 88:

"If not personally contemptuous, ad-verse criticism of one of the officials or legislatures named in the article in the course of a political discussion, even though emphatically expressed, may not be charged as a violation of the article."

Looks like you're safe. And I was looking forward to the witch hunt, uh.. I mean the trial.

Hack's activities go way over the line. For example, besides the Department of Defense decal on the front of his vehicle, Hack proudly sports a "W Worst Ever" sticker on the back.

This is a clear violation. This public display of pure unadulterated personal contempt for the President is not "in the course of a political discusssion". It is an activist display of contempt without any political context at all.

That is why many military installation commanders have policies banning offensive political bumper stickers from cars driven by on thier installations and prohibit military members from wearing offensive political slogans on T-shirts on their posts. Because they violate Article 88.

The real issue here is that Hack believes his "free speech" right as a citizen trumps his responsibility as a military officer and the oath of office he took VOLUNTARILY.

Hack is playing a dangerous game. And he knows it.

From the other side of the tracks

You know, Trax, for an overly educated guy, you are pretty ignorant of actual facts. Let me help you again.

1. No "Worst Ever" on my non-government issued vehicle. Just a "Veterans for Obama"

2. DOD stickers have gone your way; the way of the dinosaur. We no longer use them.

Trax, I'm just going to come out and say it; hombre a hombre.

You are a milk toast who can't win an argument with your microwave oven.

You attempt to take the intellectual and professional high ground while destroying its very foundation with the highly offensive "circle jerk" references; references which refer to homosexual masturbative activities.

You obviously are not dealing well with the fact that the majority of the country isn't buying your philosophies. Having to drink your own medicine has given you bitter beer face, and, in my humble opinion, caused you to look like an absolute bafoon on these boards.

You don't like what I have to say? Tuff. Deal with it. Or don't. It doesn't matter, because I've already given you instruction on how you will be required to go about muting my voice.

I suggest, however, that ignoring me might be much, much easier for you.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

From your own posting,
"Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 11:17pm.
"I'm finally going to get rid of the W, Worst Ever sticker on my FX and replace it with Obama 08 as well..."
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So you removed the sticker already. So what. That doesn't change the FACT that it used to be on your vehicle. Why lie about it?

You lied about it because you know these are contemptuous words directed toward the Commander-in-Chief. A clear violation of Article 88.

Just admit it Hack, you violated the law.

But instead, you go off on a personal tirade directed at me. Not even a cogent argument. Flail away all you want. It does not change the FACT that your behavior and contemptuous words toward the President on this website are inappropriate.

All you need to do to correct the situation is just use your name as a citizen. Therein, you have all the free speech rights of any citizen. Lose the military officer trappings from your postings. That would be the correct thing to do. But it is clear, you operate based on your own personal moral system (which is severly lacking) and are not about to follow the law.

Admit it, Hack, there is no defense for your actions. Yet you persist because you still don't get it. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. I DON'T CARE. I know we have different political philosophies - THAT is not the POINT HERE!!! Just don't say it as "Major Kevin W. King, Air Force Reserve, A-10 Pilot".

Among the law abiding folks who read these blogs, your credibility just achieved a new low. Congratulations! And you did it all by yourself! Aren't you proud?

From the other side of the tracks

Read reallly slowly otherside of trax:

You said this:

"For example, besides the Department of Defense decal on the front of his vehicle, Hack proudly sports a "W Worst Ever" sticker on the back."

Trax, if I did not have those items on my personal vehicle when you wrote that weak attempt to link me with some form of illegal speech (you milk toast), who is lying? You even cut and pasted my blog mentioning my intention to take the "Worst Ever" (still true) off of my vehicle back in FEBRUARY!!! You had three and a half months to catch up with the FACTS!

What a pathetic mouse of a man you have become. More concerned with what I say than how veterans are being neglected by your non GI BILL supporting, barracks maintaining, non truth-telling political party. If we ever did meet, Trax, I fear I might be brought to tears witnessing the true mouse of a man that you have become under the weight of the GOP water you force yourself to carry back and forth from the trough to the blogs. Truly sad.

"A mind is a terrible thing; and it must be stopped; in our lifetime."

Kevin "Hack" King

There are few things that can damage an officer’s career as much as loss of integrity. The worst damage is done when an officer compromises a core value. For every officer, loyalty to the chain of command is a core value. Hack, by violating Article 88, you have chosen to compromise your integrity as a military officer.

Let’s follow the logic trail here:

1) You chose to write contemptuous words about the President and display a contemptuous slogan on the back of your vehicle in violation of Article 88 of the UCMJ.
2) I pointed it out.
3) You rant and rave, change the subject by claiming I am trying to “silence” you, and call me a “buffoon”.

You can always tell when a blogger has lost the argument. They either try to change the subject to something else (remember your “you will never silence me” rant?) or they start name calling.

I am making no effort to silence you Hack. You have a right, as a citizen, to your poltical opinions. But as a military officer, you have no right to violate Article 88 of the UCMJ.

Unfortunately, you have, in effect, already silenced yourself to a significant degree. To the readers of these blogs, your own words have destroyed your integrity and credibility. But you are too stubborn, arrogant, and immature to admit it. It takes a man to admit when he’s made a mistake. I was hoping for better from you.

The really sad thing is, the genie is already out of the bottle. It is too late to take back the contemptuous words and actions of the past. And yet you still cling to your “free speech” rights as a citizen. Try and change the subject all you want, Hack. Everyone here knows what the real issue is. Except you. It's not about free speech. It's about YOU violating Article 88 of the UCMJ. And you still don't get it. Now that’s a true example of buffoonery. (Note: I’m not name calling here, just describing your actions with words you already used . . . )

Let me ask you simple a question, Hack . . . Do you know why they use small crates/kennels to house break puppy dogs? Because even puppy dogs know not to mess in their own kennel. Apparently, that’s a lesson you have yet to learn. Because when you, after identifying yourself as a currently serving military officer, fail to demonstrate a basic level of respect for the President through your words on this public website, and through you actions in public, you are messing in your own crate. And, like a puppy dog who hasn’t learned his lesson, until you separate your public contemptuous words (toward your chain of command) from your military officership, I will continue to stick your nose in it. So take your own advice and just DEAL WITH IT.

From the other side of the tracks

Enough already. Get over your bad self. We are over you.

Great post regarding Hack and his violation of Article 88 of the UCMJ. He reminds me of Jeremiah Wright - someone who took advantage of the freedom and prosperity that America has to offer and then turns around and pisses all over the constitution of the U.S.

I wonder if Hack's employer is aware of the violation...

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It appears your self-loathing is in full swing.

Carry on.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Hack, thank you for your sacrifice and service to our country. I don't always agree with your opinions, but I respect your right to have them.

Hang in there, take care and God bless.

Tug

Once again, we have a blogger threatening to harm another blogger's employment in order to silence him. Also, I think you will agree that calling a military officer a "traitor and weasel" is slanderous. (Or is that "libelous"?) Beaver has stated that "Any American military officer that supports a BLT following, racist, Marxist hack like Barack is no patriot. They are traitors and weasels." This means that ANY military officer that supports Obama is a traitor. Oh really? "Traitor" is a very strong word, and I take great offense to that. However, the implied threat to Hack's career is over the top.

I don't mind the heated political comments, but this kind of personal attack is unacceptable and detracts from the intent of this site.

What do you mean "once again."
Who threatened who's employment? How could they do that anyway by just saying something?
And, if Hack can't say what he thinks about most anything without being a traitor, then we are all in trouble!

The Army or Air Force will take care of their own threats.

And then some do much, much more than merely threaten.

Bloggers beware! Some on here have removed the gloves and donned the brass knuckles.

So very very sorry to hear about this mess. Know there are a bunch of us that are lifting you up. Hope you and the Mrs. are OK. Anything any of us can do, please sound the alarm.

What bunch is "lifting you up" and to where?
What alarm?
All Greek to me!
Who is "any of us?"
Might I be in that group of lifter uppers and alarm sounders?
"Anything" covers a lot of ground!
Is this Southern talk? Don't really mean it? Like "bless his heart!"

just about the time you had written a few blogs that I almost agreed with, I'll be d@^#* if you don't come out with something like this!

Let's put it this way, if you have to ask, it doesn't include you! We know who we are, we know the offers we are making, and most of us would do what we could to help, anyone with any sense knows everyone has their limitations.

Perhaps it is a southern thing - I'll just leave it at this - Muddle knows exactly what I said, why I said it, and what I meant.

Have a plesant day.

Do you mean to say that a person has to be on the same side as you with EVERYTHING?
I have never been that way, and never will be, thank goodness.
You did not explain what that stuff meant! No wonder people complain.

Jane,
It's a southern thing -- and I feel the same way you do about Sage. Every time I agree with something he/she posts, I read his/her next post and wonder why!!!

Thank you!

There are some folks who just enjoy being the devil's advocate - doesn't matter what you say, how you say it, etc. that person will argue with you. The grass is green, the sky is blue, up is up and down is down - ohhh nooooo, that person must disagree with you. Well, if that's sage's jolly then we must realize and acknowledge that it is sage's problem, not our's!

I was born and raised in the real South--not GA or NC or SC or AL or LA or MS either.
However never in my born days did I hear such phrases as you have here! They do not say what is meant clearly! Maybe by choice, I don't know.

I have heard that to tell someone that you will pray for them in public can be embarrassing. So other words are used! The Bible does say to pray in private and not brag about it!

Git mo larnin rubed upon youse, people!

show: "Things that make you go..... hmmmmmmmmmm?"

We know exactly what you meant, and I'm right there with you and everyone else lifting Muddle up against those who would sensor thoughts, burn books, and criminalize ideas that they don't agree with. This is a sad and sorry state for anyone who believes "Land of the Free" is more than just a slogan.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

Arsenio Hall?
I have never seen one of his stupid, pitiful shows, but I do see the scores of ads they run for it showing the pitiful people to lol over!

Jerry Springer is better, I think, for making fun of dudes who want the travel and money.

What is the hmmmmmmmmmmm about? Somebody said something un-south, maybe? Something that was clear in meaning!

Nice to know I'm not rambling . . . yet!

My comment was not a threat to Hack. It was merely a question.

You libs need to grow a pair and stop being so paranoid and thin skinned.

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Three points:

1. To refer to me as a "lib" is absurdly funny.
2. I was not referring to you.
3. The action to which I refer has gone well beyond mere threats, and, so, the concern that I express is not reducible to mere "paranoia."

Whoever did this to you is a snake. Some of the "newer" bloggers take these blogs too seriously. I have had about enough for a while now.
It's not like it used to be when we had friendly banter, and fun sometimes.

Anyway, I hope and pray all is OK with you, and your wife is much better. I'm making a trip to Emory next week. I hope I'm blessed to have good doctors like your wife has. Wish me luck!

God Bless
Tug

You're definitely one of the ones who have made this website worth it. Don't quit!

I'm sorry that someone has gone that cowardly route with you, if I can help in any way, just let me know and you've got it.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

I haven't made a threat to you. Has someone on here made a threat to you?

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We Will Stand

I asked about a college that my friend wants to send her child. She is looking at two of them. One is out of state. I thought you would know. She wanted to be sure of the policies of the schools before she made her decision and wanted to make sure that they enforced them.

I did say I do know Dr. Stephen Hooks, is there a problem with that?
I didn't notice until I thought who spoke at Rich Mullins memorial. Dr. Hooks rang a bell that we have met him and know him some. I wanted to let her know from someone that knew about the college other than the person I know. You teach and I thought it may be at a Christian college. Also you said you knew Dr. Stephen Hooks.

Since, you are friends with him I just asked what Dr. Hooks your close friend would think about your jokes about SBC. You said it was just a joke. I did not threaten you.

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We Will Stand

That is so not nice. As for me, I'm already a scarred up mule, so showing me your brass is not going to have much effect.

If you look through these blogs, you'll see that questioning someone's patriotism and/or calling them a "traitor" for disagreeing with a political opponent is a Standard Operating Procedure for a certain type of 'conservative'.

The foremost practitioners of this disgusting technique would have to be Richard Hobbs and Trey Hoffman. When other lesser 'conservative' mortals see these two routinely get away with impugning the character of others, they have a tendency to pile on. Hence, we have slimy folks like Beaver calling military Barack Obama supporters "traitors" in a pathetic attempt to "one-up" Hobbs and Hoffman.

Beavis has no credibility here...after all, he's the one who called John McCain a "traitor" last week for his immigration policies.

What do you mean threat? How is it a threat to question whether or not the Air Force knows about the violation of one of it's articles of code of conduct?

That is no threat. You libs are just too paranoid about everything.

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Cal needs to monitor the threatening tone of beaver and trax. I would rather see this blog shut down than to see others lose their jobs/careers because of threats. We haven't heard from either Hack or Muddle lately, or Jeffc, and I'm wondering if it is because of the threatening tone and personal attacks from some bloggers?

This is supposed to be a forum where we can discuss relevant topics without being threatened or personally attacked. Cal needs to step up or his most popular bloggers will be leaving. And for good reason.

Don't you think that at times you have done your fair share of personal attack blogging ? Maybe it's time to go look in the mirror. Cal does monitor this site and does a fine job of deleting the things on here that need it. Remember the saying "if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen." Trax has never threatened Hack. This is a free speech forum where people are surely to differ on points of view and some, like yourself, are going to be more extreme about one side or the other. Your history on here says you enjoy this banter back and forth. So please give everyone a break with your pleas to Cal to quiet one side or the other. Personally, I enjoy the entertainment.

I've never insinuated that I would alert someones employer to look at another persons blog comments, like trax and beaver have. This is crossing the line, in my opinion.

Where is your line, blazing2006? How far would you go in trying to intimidate and silence other bloggers because you don't like their opinions? Trax, beaver, and even bpr, have referenced other peoples employers on this blog.... and why? Because they do not like that persons opinion.

Referencing another persons employer is a form of intimidation, and yes a subtle 'threat' as far as I'm concerned.

I have advised many times for you to remain unknown on here. I have said "no coffee's" for me.
There are simply too many people who will use whatever is at their disposal to hurt someone who criticizes them or even wins an argument---and believe it or not--their politics!

You might as well write letters to one another if you spend your time trying to figure out who that "idiot" was that is saying all that stuff that I don't like! Talking to unknown audiences is beyond the capability of many, I'm afraid. Having someone say you are wrong, or nuts, is not bearable for some. They do not need to be on such a blog as this.
For those of you who want to say who you are, what it is that you do, how much education you have, how important you are, how much you attend church and where, how you pray, want to know about everyone else's religion, and so forth, sooner or later the "nuts" will figure it out and hurt you! Don't do it!!!!

Of course then there are the real "Kooks" who don't even know what I am talking about---nothing can be done there! Then there is me--trying to get answers to answers needing answers--not very much appreciated, I'm afraid!

What you say and how you say it and what the subject involves, tells most of us all we need to know about you over time.

I believed him but I think Sage got bumped from here didn't he? Did he go to coffees?

I think e-mail or text messaging is for those who want to use their real names to be able to discuss honestly everything. Never was one to hold back info, dig a little at a time, con the other guy, take advantage of ignorance, etc.

This site should have a claus on it that reads "FOR ENTERTAIMENT PURPOSES ONLY". Life is toooooo short to take some on here serious. I have vomitted, I mean blogged, way to much today.

"...would alert someones employer to look at another persons blog comments

Main, this was actually done with regard to me and with full effect.

It seems that, from some vantage points, this "muddle" character is a beer-drinking, pot-smoking, foul-mouthed, Christian-basher.

Funny, I never thought of him in that way. (Well, there is the beer part....)

"with full effect"?

Please tell me that the school you work for did not take this seriously?

I guess this is a wake up call for all of us.

some people keep hitting the snooze button.

You are one of those "when E.F. Hutton talks..." bloggers. We always listen and learn something. And you don't pidgeon hole yourself in a monochromatic argument. I am very, very sorry if anyone has tried to "out" or intimidate or effect you in any way. I've been away for a bit, so I've missed a few posts, but I'll be right next to Hutch kicking butts for you if need be. I probably wouldn't be the best character reference for youthough, would I . Take care and God Bless!

Kevin "Hack" King

Besides muddle's pretty much impeccable taste in music, his posts, in my opinion, are also pretty much spot on....despite, to paraphrase sniffles the occasional whiff of evangelism. Peace brutha...

"Picture a bright blue ball, just spinning, spinnin free,
Dizzy with eternity.
Paint it with a skin of sky,
Brush in some clouds and sea,
Call it home for you and me.
A peaceful place or so it looks from space,
A closer look reveals the human race.
Full of hope, full of grace
Is the human face,
But afraid we may lay our home to waste."

"once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right"
"listen to the thunder shouting, "I AM, I AM, I AM"

;>} Have a grateful day ;>}

If you are saying it's me. Prove it.

I don't have a thing to worry about.

You don't respond to me because it is not me and you know it.

At least be brave enough to prove it. With details please.

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We Will Stand

It would be difficult for muddle to prove you did it when he has already said he knows who did it. Besides he said someone put together a "neat package," something far beyond your ability.

Maybe he will just tell you secretly who it was and I am sure you could keep it secret!

I've been viewing this thread off and on over the last hour or so and MY GOOD GOD!!! This is one of the most psychotic displays I have ever witnessed. Just HAD to comment on it. BPR, calm the heck down! (If that's even possible for someone as high-strung as you obviously are)
It's really hard to believe that people like this exist in our world.

I don't think the whole Internet/blogging thing is working for BPR as she continually denies over and over and OVER something no one has even accused him/her of. Witnessing the total meltdown taking place is rather disturbing.

I don't think this "blogging thing" is working out for a lot of people on here, you included. I can't believe some of the things muddle has said. So what. Sniffles just posted that it wasn't him. I don't see you or anyone else saying he needs a blogging break or a time out.

If it was, I wouldn't ask Cal and staff to take a look at it, now would I? DUH.

Did Sniffles deny it 8 times in 2hrs? I must have missed denial after denial after denial from him.

You don't believe Muddle? That wasn't even the point whatsoever.

Your Over reacting just as much as BPR is. Can you not see that?

I don't see that at all, goal_keeper. Hurray for me.

"cyclist: River
Submitted by sageadvice on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 8:48am.
What happened to the comment last evening on here about whether someone ratted out Muddle to his employer about something he said on here and he was fired?

It disappeared about as soon as it appeared!"

This post was from sageadvice asking you guys about a mysterious post that disappeared. Does anyone know who posted the original post about Muddle and his employer? Someone posted something about Muddle, and then deleted it quickly.

Anyone know who it was?

I didn't know about the "muddle" thingy but I do know that the story line was about something that was happening at Publix in PTC with police cars and helicopter(s). I don't know what came over me but I made the statement asking, who let "sniffles" out. That whole blog disappeared.
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has got running all over his picture...that is driving me crazy!

I had a horrible feeling that someone did this to you. There was a recent comment that surfaced about you and then was quickly deleted.

This really has gotten out of hand and should have been curtailed before someone did this to you. And I hope the same does not happen to other bloggers. It's absolutely sickening that people take their hostility to that level.

The person who did that to you is obviously mentally unstable. And I can only guess who that is, but I have my suspicions.

I naively...

* Thought that the Christians on here would recognize and appreciate that I am all about articulating and defending a Christian view of things.

* Expected that people would recognize satire as satire and humor as humor, and thus not take offense.

* Assumed that, despite my carelessness, I would be able to remain anonymous (I left a trail to my identity that any moron could pick up).

* Treated my blogs and comments on here, which were separated by weeks or months, as one would regard one's casual comments in conversation, never considering the facvt that it was all archived, stored up as ammunition to be turned on me once someone with the intent to do so emerged.

* Thought that no one would infer from Muddle advocates the legalization of marijuana to Muddle smokes marijuana. I have not smoked the stuff since 1976 when I became a Christian. (I am opposed to sodomy laws, but it does not follow that I am a "sodomist.")

* Expected that my several crossings of the line (Let's see...I've said "damn," "ass" and "turd" that I can think of) might have been offset by my attempts at positive contributions from a decidedly Christian vantage point. (A friend just told me about a new book: Surprised By Laughter by Terry Lindvall. It is about C.S. Lewis's (and G.K. Chesterton's) use of humor--sometimes involving vulgarity or satire. Having read my posts, he suggested that there is little difference between my own sometimes ribald humor and the examples he finds there. Lindvall, by the way, is at Regents--a conservgative Christian university).

* Thought that, perhaps, my uniform posts on Christian virtues and such values as marital fidelity, not to mention my undying devotion and faithfulness to the love of my life since the age of 14, might have made people think twice before they publicly challenged my "character" as a Christian.

* Assumed that, because perhaps 90% of my posts are serious attempts at reflecting on important issues from a Christian worldview, that this would be the main impression that people had of me.

* Supposed that, even where they disagree with me, people would recognize that my critique of the form that the contemporary evangelical church and ministry has taken is offered from a Christian perspective and is not, therefore, "Christian-bashing." (It comes straight out of serious texctbooks used in Christian college classrooms. Consider, for instance, David Wells, No Place for Truth, which, consistent with the title, argues that the contemporary church has transformed the Christian gospel into a therapeutic message. Why come to Jesus? Because he works better than Prozac.

* Never, EVER, EVER, supposed that anyone would become so incensed by anything that I had written that they would tie up a number of my blogs into a neat package of damning evidence with a view to destroying me.

* Treated my blogs and comments on here, which were separated by weeks or months, as one would regard one's casual comments in conversation, never considering the facvt that it was all archived, stored up as ammunition to be turned on me once someone with the intent to do so emerged.

Folks, there's only one person on these blogs who has admitted to routinely archiving and storing the comments of those people she disagrees with, and that person is Denise Conner.

Therefore, I submit to you that Denise Conner is the "rat".

The person that felt compelled to contact Muddle's employer needed to possess three things: 1) a vindictive nature, 2) a sense of "religious superiority", i.e. "my God's better than your God" and 3) a moderate level of technical competence to search and assemble a dossier of quotes.

A number of you have insinuated that the "rat" is BPR. She is certainly vindictive and her sense of religious superiority is far above anyone else on this site. Technically, though, she's dumber than a doorknob so I sincerely doubt she has the brains to assemble a list of Muddle's quotes. Some evidence AGAINST bpr includes her contacting a member of Hack's church to inform this person as to what Hack is "really" like, plus the fact that she blocks outbound calls from caller-id. I don't believe BPR was the primary culprit but unless she is willing to swear on a Bible before God and Jesus that she was not involved in any way, shape or form in this nasty business, I will believe that she was NOT an innocent bystander but involved in some manner.

Denise Conner, on the other hand, passes all three tests: She's vindictive, she habitually invokes her superior religious faith, and she has the technical competence AND EXPERIENCE archiving blog posts. Folks, Jeff and I have been telling you for months that Denise is mentally ill. Her compulsion to save comments from this blog shows that she has at a minimum a rather severe case of Obsessive Compulsive Syndrome (OCD)...ask yourself folks: Is this normal behavior?

I truly believe that at a certain level Denise is incapable of distinguishing between what is "right" and what is "wrong" (defining "wrong" as exclusively something that could immediately hurt her) and therefore could and did contact Muddle's employer without a trace of remorse. This is a classic symptom of Narcisstic Personality Disorder, inappropriate "retaliation" against those who disagree with them. Muddle has a PhD and was therefore a "threat" to her when he disagreed with her, therefore she needed to re-establish her "superiority" and in order to do so she had to "punish" Muddle. Further, Muddle indicated that this person made no attempt to hide or disguise their identity, which is also indicative of someone with NPD, Denise feels she's doing the "right" thing and therefore has "nothing to hide".

But Muddle stated,

"As for the "rat," I will only say that, unless there is far more intrigue here than even I realize, it was not the first person who has likely come to the minds of many."

As Denise was the first to come to mind, methinks she can't be the rat. BPR certainly reacted strangely the other day, with about 6 denials in an hour, despite the fact that NO ONE had accused her.

And what about Beaver? He is certainly a loose cannon. Has he had disputes with Muddle?

Or Hobbs? He is certainly a narcissist.

But, who knows?

I am still boggled that any employer would listen/respond to such idiocy.

I just went through all of Denise's posts, back to early March--and that's a LOT of posts! I never saw anything critical of Muddle. I agree that she has the technical skills to do something like this, but I fail to see a motive. You and Denise have been enemies for as long as I can remember both of you being on this website, but I see no sign of her and Muddle having a serious dispute. BPR would have the motive, in my opinion, but as you said she does not have the skills.

The fact that Denise has been silent for several days is somewhat suspicious, but not enough to convict her of anything.

Muddle, if you know who it is, I wish you'd speak up.

PS- Sniffles, for the love of God, please get rid of that bug!!

I've been absent for several days too. Does that make me suspect too?

With the search abilities on the Citizen and Dogpile, one can very easily track one's blogging history with very little effort.

As far as Sniffles the accuser goes... the bug fits perfectly.

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The main thing I was saying was that I hope Sniffles was wrong. It's not like Denise to suddenly drop off the face of the earth, so that's a little odd. Nevertheless, I'm hoping she is innocent. Give me credit for stating that in the first place.

Whoever did this is scum. I hope that anybody who is tempted to "out" someone like this over a disagreement on this website will find a shred of decency within themselves, and decide against doing it. The business with Hack's military status comes to mind here.

You are right about the search abilities being available to anybody--that's how I read all Denise's posts. So yes, it could be just about anybody. (No, I don't think you are a suspect, nor most of the bloggers on here.)

It's cool. This whole thing just stinks terribly. I know friend is a loosely used term these days. But, I consider Muddle a blogger friend and a man I'd certainly add to my life's treasure chest.

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That was a nice turn of phrase " add to my life's treasure chest"

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Note that after meeting you and Cy a couple of times I chunked you guys in that chest too. Tain't no fancy chest... just think of it like when you were a kid. For me... my treasure chests were empty cigar boxes.

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I came to this website to share stories and make friends. I really hate what is going on.

I totally agree with you, "I came to this website to share stories . . ." From time to time there are folks who complain about the friendly banter that goes on, stating that real issues be discussed . . .my opinion has always been the world's problems are not going to be solved here on these blogs. If folks wish to exchange friendly banter, and talk about kids, the weather, places to eat, places to see, etc. there is nothing wrong with that. The mess that has resulted from someone taking out of context anything that muddle has ever said is absolutely unimaginable. It is very very sad that someone would do this. Too bad that those of us who understood the things muddle was saying, the tone and tongue in cheek way he said them can't somehow attest to his goodness and kind heart. Such a shame, such a durn shame.

I didn't understand half of what muddle used to say when he spoke as a philosopher, but I just picked one of his explanations that I liked and talked about that one.
I am glad he took the time to participate. Hope he will continue.

However, your comment about "sad." That I don't understand!
I suppose you mean "disappointed?" But, I don't know why. Any group of this nature has a few who want to "get" someone, anyone. They feel it is their duty. Muddle left himself too wide open, I guess.
You will find that unsure people want to hurt others to pep themselves up. A fact of life as of now! I said, "stay hidden."

Yeah. I just got here and I'm skeered.

what you're on about, nature, I came in here BECAUSE it's skeery. But funny. Kind of like Evil Dead.

"That thing in the basement is not my mother!"

I am sure that BPR's overly handsome husband has the requisite skills for such an endeavor. Keep the faith

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.

That you're on to something here Sniffles. Wow. What a rat.

wouldn't go down this road as "muddle" is the only one that knows.
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Time to rename your bug?

No... no, probably not. Your bug isn't hurling grenades as it scurries aimlessly about.

I thought your silence was due to your decision not to engage anymore in the topic of 'race' or 'diversity'. I'm saddened that you are subject to this kind of nonsense. I want to take this opportunity to thank you, Cyclist and others for exposing me to a type of 'diversity training' that I was unaware of. I have had an interesting two weeks of communicating with colleagues regarding the current trend in this type of training.

I have never blogged in a 'small' community before - and I guess in Fayette County - everyone knows your name. You are one of the few people who remembered me before I became 'anonymous'. When you answered the question with 'Mind over matter' - I knew that you practiced the Christian ethic with understanding. You obviously have the respect and admiration of many on this 'blog'. YOU CANNOT BE DESTROYED!

I hope your employers have the wisdom and foresight to ignore ignorance - and shared the pettiness of a sick individual with you to advise you of the cowardly attempt to stop the free flow of ideas.

May God continue to bless you and yours.

I hope you are doing okay. I am sorry about what happened to you.

Did you say you lost your job? I did't see where you said that. I saw where others said that. Did that really happen?

Are you planning on moving to Asheville now? I know you said that you would like to move there.

I will be going for a visit soon.

Let me know if I can help you out in anyway.

How is Mrs. Muddle? Tell her hello for me.

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How are you today? It's a little cool outside but it will warm up into a beautiful day.

Have a nice day.

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