West Village annexation

Shortly after John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods revealed their original plans for what is being called the Connector Village, members of the Tyrone City Council expressed an interest in the plan. It is my understanding that some of them may have even approached members of Wieland’s staff advising them that if they were turned down by the Peachtree City Council, that Tyrone would consider annexing that land and allow them to build their original plan of 750 homes and a white collar commercial district, complete with recreation fields, a senior component, boardwalk along the creek, and a church site.

Of course, Wieland would much rather have a Peachtree City zip code so they have held off on that offer, but should this annexation request be turned down by Peachtree City; Tyrone is still a possibility. So the density may be there either way you look at it. Control by Peachtree City or control by Tyrone. Which would you prefer? As a citizen of Peachtree City and a resident in the West Village, I definitely would prefer to have development and control by Peachtree City.

The shame that has been lost here was that Wieland’s original proposal offered considerable amenities to the city, that the previous makeup of the city council chose to turn down. A high class commercial district that would have brought needed revenue to the coffers of the city, jobs, and a nearby location for those residents who live in the West Village to shop besides the obvious big box stores. Due to the senseless delays by the city, the apparent at-grade crossing may be doomed. That may make some happy, but I wish to refer you to the City’s traffic consultant that stated very clearly, for future growth and expansion, two crossings would be needed. We now appear to be destined to just the one. http://www.peachtree-city.org/info/macdufftrafficstudy2005.pdf#search=%22McDuff%20traffic%20site%3Apeachtree-city.org%22 Happy reading. Without a doubt the most boring meeting I have ever attended or hope to ever attend.

The Water and Sewer Authority, WASA; have stated they have the capacity to provide sewer to this unincorporated island and that should be done regardless of how this is built out. The ever elusive Lake McIntosh will draw it’s supply from Line Creek which could become tainted over years with the proximity of so many septic tanks. Once the pollution enters that water stream, it will be practically impossible to remove, so do the right thing now and require the sewer system up front. I hope that the appropriate personnel at the city and county level work together to make this happen. Likewise, should this property not be annexed, then I certainly hope the developers push for sewer over septic.

The County is of course the other major reason why this annexation hasn’t proceeded before now. The City Council was in fear of a law suit, so they delayed and pontificated over what to do. So they did nothing. Now, the County states that they will object, but since the State law doesn’t support them very well on unincorporated islands, their hands are tied. To this, I certainly hope that the new members of the County Commission reverse this course. This land will be developed, accept that; but work with the City to provide the best possible solution versus throwing walls up. Use your resources to assist in finding that second crossing, for certainly there is a solution there somewhere. Just because some of us live within city limits does not make us any less of a resident in the county. All we are asking is some assistance on getting this done as painlessly and quickly as possible.

Dana Kinser

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Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 7:59am.

Whats in it for us? I know wieland will make thousands and thousands of dollars, what is in it for us?

More traffic, more overcrowded schools.....what else....more shortages of water...
Oh and he offered us some property to build a firestation.

Are we suposed to be doing handsprings over this?? We are being generous by letting this developer make money off of the PTC name and zip code.
The least he could do would be to build the firestation and buy some of the equipment. Don't worry he'll still make a killing off of us.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 11:19am.

If you are not the ones the homes are being built for you were never in the equation for what you get.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 2:38pm.

Many may scoff, but that is a powerful factor here.

I am not sure, at all, that many tanks would be allowed in that area because of them.

For sure, more than two exits are needed. And contrary to the thinking of some, when traffic, again, jams 54/74, people will cut through there, control devices or not.

Aren't there any roads that could be bridged over line creek to make a by-pass of that whole area on the north side of it?

Yes, traffic is doing pretty good at this time. But it does not take a genious to figure on that many homes added right there, plus all the development along 74, in Coweta, to see the traffic issues are going to return in a few years.

Be nice to see some long term thinking for once.

When I think of what the roads were 20 years, then 10 years ago, I have not the slighest doubt traffic issues are coming back a lot sooner than many think.

Most assuredly, we don't want that area as part of Tyrone.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 2:22pm.

But the added component of the "Senior" development will be nice too. Having the bridge over the RR and the outlet to Old 74 will be a bonus.

I look for some tweaks, possibly in the density, but mainly agree, we need to get on with it.

On a side note, how is the traffic in your neighborhood since the 54/74 construction has been finished? I hope it's better, as I was in your neighborhood a few times on my golf cart, and it was amazing the rudeness that was being displayed by many, most out of the area, but not all.

Submitted by dkinser on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 2:32pm.

Dawg,

Thanks and as for the traffic, 100% better. I can now leave Peachtree City Elementary School at 5:30 and be home before 5:45. Prior to this, it was 6:00 or after. In the morning, so far traffic is flowing and the few emergencies that have happened during both rush hours have not resulted in undue delays of the emergency vehicles as was commonplace before.

And yes, you were right about the displays of people at the McDuff Parkway intersection and Hwy 54. It was routine for people to block the intersection which allowed only 1 or 2 cars to properly enter the Hwy. The rest had to wait or do the illegal and block the intersection as well. For many that resulted in a ticket of up to $350.00.

Dana Kinser

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 8:04pm.

Seriously, why can't the same amenities from the old Wieland plan not be in the new one. I mean give Steve Brown his due; he could be a harda_ _ on developers and squeeze the improvments out of them. But why can't the current council do the same? Are their expectation or standards or whatever really that low?

The public workshops on the old plan, I thought, worked really well. I enjoyed listening to the citizen input without the formality of a council meeting. Why can't the current council do the same thing?

Vote Republican


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 9:10pm.

especially the larger commercial component. Just going by memory, that is what mine tells me.

I'm not sure how the bridge over the RR was addressed. I'm sure others will chime in here.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Sun, 08/20/2006 - 1:24am.

Why does it have to be Peachtree City at higher density? Does McDonoughDawg, Mudcat and the others think that leaving it in the county will make it a bad development (at lower density too)? Go take a drive down Redwine Road and look at the fabulous subdivisions like White Water with big homes and ONE and TWO acre lots. Go look at the latest Platinum Ridge subdivision in the county (next to Peachtree City) and tell me why that wouldn't work on the westside? Look at the Wieland's River Oaks subdivision (two acre lots and over) that's next to Wendell Coffee's place on Hwy. 74 and tell me why that wouldn't work with far less homes, cars, school kids? Even more the very high end home on larger lots bring in more school tax revenue, etc. without having to provide as much service.

Can we really afford ANOTHER tax increase to ramp up the infrastructure for that many seniors and young families living in the Wieland and Levitt sites? According to several on this web site, we don't have adequate public safety numbers now, what happens when their territory is expanded?

WIELAND HAD PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO 300 HOMES WHEN THEY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2005, SO WHAT HAPPENED?

This bit about we're doomed if Peachtree City doesn't build it at three times the density or more of the county zoning is absolutely ridiculous. Go low density, high-end homes and build the bridge.

Developers cashing in again!

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Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 08/20/2006 - 7:45am.

This would work for everyone.....everyone except for greedy wieland.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 08/20/2006 - 9:57am.

Water. How does it work for water?

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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Sun, 08/20/2006 - 6:11am.

I have always said that PTC should leave it. Maybe it won't be developed or if it is it will have to be on larger lots. All those that sayme must "control it" really want more taxes, infastructure and power.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 08/20/2006 - 9:37am.

Has already said they want to annex it.

It is not up to PTC who controls it unless we annex it.

Even then, we will end up providing sewer line.

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