Your missing the scale of the developments that I mentioned. Selling homes at $850,000 to $1.5 million, for example: The Peninsula in Peachtree City and River Oaks in Tyrone, bring you the same return at around 65 percent less units than the $225,000 to $390,000 product at a much higher density. There would be no difference in the margins for the bridge construction.

I'm not saying the county density has to be the "number" but you can get a heck of a lot lower than the current proposal.

The sewer system doesn't belong to the city. An authority owns it; however, we do have certain rights of refusal, and we should honor those rights whenever a situation arises like Logsdon's "run it into Coweta" dilemma occurs.

This is feasible and it should be explored.

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Just how many homes in that price range do you think could be sold?

Last I heard 11 million dollar or plus ones were for sale in the Pennisula.

When you cross the $500,000 dollar mark, you customer base narrows rapidly.

As for the Sewer system, actually PTC did buy the system and set up the Authority.

It is a legal technicality to keep a lot of continuity by not having the City directly do day to day management.

Look here on page C-5.

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PTC Guy, you said, "It is a legal technicality ..." You must have them confused with the development authority which had an "illegal technicality" to deal with.

It is my understanding from a WASA employee that the authority does, in fact, own the sewer system. Apparently the city just underwrote their loans.

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Authorities are set up by County, Cities or a combination of both. They are not free entities.

PTC set up the Authority and ultimately owns the system.

Remember our infamous Authority prior to Tourism?

How about the the Stormwater Utility? Operates with independent management but at the bottom line is PTC.

Legal technicalities for manangement and such purposes. Not issues of ownership.

You don't remember the big rumble when PTC decided to buy the system?

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PTC Guy, I read what you're saying but I don't think you're right. It is my understanding that authority-type bodies are created under the state constitution and are legal entities unto themselves.

I mean how else could the development authority have gotten into so much trouble and delved into illegal acts if they were supposed to be under the "tight reins" of the city?

Vote Republican

They are entities created by state law but at the will of what ever government level wants them.

PTC did buy the sewer. They was such anger over that at the time.

Keep digging on the DevAuth. See who funded it. PTC did. As it was responsible for its creation and demise.

The local gets the Authority established to do management apart from the government, for obvious reasons. And it is independent, until the creating government dissolves it.

Big problems arise when dissolved, as to who assumes the debt, since government cannot assume it(now think about Logsdon wanting to assume the debt and why this is in court so long).

Confusing reading, but read here.

They are not government, not independent business, but have aspects of both, but often without the legal restraints of either.

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Explain how Peachtree City has to supply the services if Tyrone (for some reason) annexes the westside??

Those same water issues you spoke of exist all around Peachtree City. The county has more strict buffering ordinances around water than Peachtree City does.

The current City Council has already run the sewer into Fayette County once already. They can do it again and get the bridge as part of the development package to gain one acre lots.

I think there's a way to get all the perks at a much lower density.

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Some others have more depth on the point than I do. So maybe they can chip in.

The Feds and State, for good reason, try to limit septic systems.

I believe, but could be wrong on the exact number, that if any structure comes within 400 feet of a sewer line they cannot be on septic and must tap in.

And I believe, but here is where it gets dodgy for me, that includes developments.

Bottom line is that it could easily result in developments in the county close to PTC getting tapped into PTC and then annexed by Tyrone.

Our system, their tax monies.

Hope someone with a better knowledge of this issue clarifies it.

Another issue is the bridge. The county is not going to chip in. And PTC is not going to chip in unless it is PTC.

So, if no bridge, then all that traffic must come out McDuff onto 54. Think about the results of that.

And if, for some wild reason, PTC chipped in and Tyrone annexed. It becomes their infrastructure, nicely paid for by PTC.

Tell me where there is a way out of PTC not annexing?

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And PTC Guy is correct, there is a certain "closeness to sewer" that must be followed in this area. As he also says, Line Creek comes into play also.

Spear Guy, IF you have concern, let the Council hear from you.