Do You Believe in TDK Ext. Magic?

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The Mel Gibson or Harold Logsdon blog created an interesting side bar. Is the TDK extension a savior?

Look guys, as someone who witnessed the obliteration of the once beautiful northern side of Atlanta, the TDK extension isn’t going to help anything.

Go take a drive on the Coweta side and you will see that most of the farms are for sale or have already been sold. They’re not selling those huge plots of land to other farmers so they can reap another harvest of soybeans.

Pathway owns over 250-acres, and I been told that Group VI is buying parcels too. Why do you think they had Logsdon trying to run the sewer out there?

We saw this all the time in Cobb County. A new road gets proposed by the developers through the elected officials. The road is “intended” to reduce traffic. Five years after the road is completed (or widened) it is choked down by all of the new development. The new development zoned and built because the road created better access to the land.

I didn’t always agree with Brown’s style, but I think he hit a homerun on the TDK stuff. His big issue was that he wasn’t going break the city’s bank and spend $3 million (or whatever it cost) to build it. We’re now getting the road and Fayette County, Coweta County and GDOT are paying for it. Apparently, they got the FAA to buy the land to move the golf course over too. I heard they’re giving Pathway almost $2 million for their property in the back of the industrial section (what a rip off). In the end, we got the road and we didn’t have to pay for it. I give him kudos for standing his ground and saving us what could have been 15 percent tax increase.

Unfortunately, everything I witnessed in Cobb, North Fulton and Gwinnett is starting to happen on our end too. Whether we like it or not, the big developers have most of the political clout.

Like in the ballad of the sinking of the Edmond Fitzgerald, the Captain said, “Fellows, it’s been good to know ya.” We are taking on water now to the point where bailing just doesn’t work. Our I-85 traffic will soon be no different than what they have on the northern side of Atlanta.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 2:12pm.

That's just the fact. You are in the minority in your opinion of being against it. It's been on the boards for some time. If you had owned the land needed, I seriously doubt you would have donated it for public use.

I'm glad the road is going in, it is needed.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 3:16pm.

You're missing my point on TDK. If you go back and look, I never said I opposed the road. I just said that I think that people are over estimating its value.

Residential properties with good schools and good road access fill up quickly. If Pathway builds Summer Grove II on the other side of TDK and the other developers follow suit, how are those homeowners going to get on I-85? They'll do it just like the adjacent Senoia homeowners do - get on Hwy. 74. Does that help the 50 percent of us that commute to Atlanta and beyond every day? More people bring more crime. More cars bring more traffic accidents and more congestion.

I'm just being realistic. Show me an expanded or widened road in a good residential or commercial area in Metro Atlanta that still has good traffic flow after five years. In Cobb, many years ago, we had a lot of open farm land on I-75. Then they built a shopping mall on Barrett Parkway. Next came high density residential (apartments and 1/4 and 1/2 acre lots). The county commission and the chamber of commerce said that more capacity was needed on Barrett Parkway to ease the new traffic congestion. It was going to solve all our problems. They added more capacity and what happened? Four more large commercial developments moved in and several more large residential communities were built. The result was traffic congestion was worse than before.

Based on 50 plus years of observation, I say wait and see if the residential developments don't start springing up like crazy when the road access is extended. I could be dead wrong, but that's the way I've seen it happen for decades.

As far as the Pathway profit margin, look at what they sold their Hwy. 74 road frontage lots (pure highway frontage) for and you'll see why they simply waited until the FAA deadline to create more pressure to get an outragous price. They were in the driver's seat all the way. Logsdon was under so much pressure to build the road, he'd given them anything they wanted.

Here's a question that I can't find an answer for: Who is paying to move the holes for the golf course? Pathway just supplied the land as far as I know, so who's got the tab on moving the dirt, sod, irrigation, etc.?

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 4:27pm.

I think it will also benefit the Braelin Shopping Center, and hopefully, help with the traffic to/from Coweta on HWY 54. I've often said on here, that the Coweta folks, especially Senoia, could get out of hand with annexing/zoning, but there's not much we as Fayette Voters can do about it.

Cobb/Fulton have always had trouble with the access back and forth over the Chattahoochee River, Line Creek , though smaller is the same problem for us here.

I still don't think we'll see anything close to the growth that Cobb experienced in our area.

As far as profit made, who is to determine how much is too much? Or not enough?

It seems we agree more than we disagree on this.

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 1:27pm.

I see your point but, what do we do about the congestion in the 54/74 area ? Public transportation ?

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 3:49pm.

I agree with you, G35 Dude, on the congestion problem. Although just wait until they start widening Hwy. 74, we'd all better carry some prozac in the glove compartment! If we thought that the Hwy. 54 construction tied us in knots, just wait.

We get back to the saying, "You can't put 10 pounds of sugar in a 5 pound bag." Look at the traffic in the Thomas Crossroads area, and they don't have sewer and have to build on bigger lots. Their traffic is picking up because the areas around them are adding more new homes.

Harold Logsdon is not a slow growth advocate. To the contrary, he has and is pushing several projects that will lead to rapid spikes in residential growth. This does not work in our favor. Senoia wants to add more houses and is trying to figure out how to do it. Let's pray that Eric Maxwell doesn't go on a development rampage like Logsdon has.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 4:29pm.

In reading on here, apparently 3 laning 74 is in the cards. You're right, in the short term, the 2 laning project from 54 to Crosstown will be a bear.

Thankfully, I have Peachtree Parkway as an alternate.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 5:27pm.

Uh oh! You made me think about what the alternative routes will be. Let's get some speed humps on Peachtree Parkway and Robinson Road right away - could you imagine?

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