Our young brain-dead candidates

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Of all the counties in metro Atlanta, guess which one had the highest percentage of citizens over the age of 65 in our 2000 census? Yes, it was Fayette County, with 9.01%.

In an article titled “No car? You’re stuck,” the June 25 AJC reported on the plight of older people who have had to surrender their car keys and are stuck at home.

The article went on to say that “some counties, such as Fayette, don’t budget anything for senior transportation.” A little federal and state money ($38,000) and United Way money ($48,000) reportedly trickles in through Fayette Senior Services, a nonprofit organization, to help provide rides. (That’s under $10 per senior, on average.) Local churches and organizations provide volunteer drivers. The Fayette Senior Services executive director is quoted as saying, “We don’t have a licensed taxi service that I am aware of.”

Fortunately, Peachtree City offers a golf cart option to some seniors who might not be able to drive cars. I doubt this would help very many of them. (But every bit helps.)

Our current county commissioners are blind, I mean BLIND, to our growing senior population and their needs. Those who would challenge them for their job are just as blind.

Gay marriage is of no interest to seniors. Disputes with the sheriff are of no real interest. The land use plan is a nebulous concept that seems to be an excuse for doing nothing.

And doing nothing is precisely what our candidates are good at. It’s as if there’s an empty space where their brain ought to be.

One candidate publishes ads which state, quite simply, “Vote July 18, Jack Smith County Commissioner.” Hey Jack, why would I want to do that? Do you think I am in the army and take orders?

Another candidate publishes a letter from an 11-year-old boy who says Eric Maxwell is his personal hero because, among other things, Eric has never said no to anyone and even let him have a “bomb fire” (he must have meant bonfire) at Eric’s home. That looks dangerous to me. There are times when you must say No!

A better ad from Maxwell is pretty much about his support for law enforcement and the sheriff, lawsuits he deems frivolous, and support (whatever that word means) for recreation, the arts, the Land Use Plan, and local government unity.

Seemingly wasting no money on newspaper ads are incumbents Greg Dunn and Linda Wells, who seem devoid of vision for the future and committed to a tired (and tiring) past. Their frugality is commendable, but there is more to life than not spending money.

All these candidates are under the age of 65. They all seem pretty much brain-dead. A lot of people with bodies that are more than 65 years old have minds younger than theirs, and I am not talking about their second childhood.

Why can’t we prod these candidates to come up with their ideas on helping out with problems like transportation for our senior citizens? Won’t they be old one day? Don’t they have parents or relatives that are old? What’s wrong with these candidates?

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Submitted by allend on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 4:38pm.

I spent the weekend at Whitewater High school in Fayetteville with my friend who has a grandson playing in the Champions State games. I think it's wonderful that they are playing the games here in Fayette County where you can drive just a short distance to watch. Yesterday I saw Eric Maxwell at the games. I had never seen a candidate at a youth game like that. He is handicapped. I did not know that. He sat in the heat of the day cheering on the Fayette County boys.
He was there again today this time in the rain. What I noticed was he wasn't seeking out people to shake their hands he just sat there watching the games and cheering for Fayette County. It was a rather poignant sight to see him do that from a wheelchair. God bless you Mr. Maxwell for having the thought to be there and cheering our boys on and Godspeed in your endeavors.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 8:47pm.

Politicians do that before an election. It seems to be one of the requirements of getting elected. Showing up at community functions,kissing babies, attending local sports events and concerts. They actually pretend like they like you because they really need you for a while. You will see them taking much interest in the activities people do during this time in an attempt to score votes. Rest assured Mr. Maxwell is looking forward to this primary to end so he can get on with life and his new powerful position.

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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Mon, 06/26/2006 - 4:49am.

Yes, Mrs. Allen, Git Real is regrettably correct. Voters fall for that stuff. It is entirely shallow and will not last long at all. You will not see Eric Maxwell break a sweat if he is a commissioner and the only "cheering" he will do is when the development community succeeds in casting aside the Land Use Plan.

Submitted by ptcitychick on Mon, 06/26/2006 - 5:57am.

I know Eric Maxwell. I knew Eric Maxwell before he decided to run for Commissioner. He is the most genuine person I know. What you see is what you get with him. He cares about this county.I can tell you without hesitation that Eric was at that sporting event to cheer on one of the many kids he is a mentor to. Every kid I know that knows Eric looks up to him and he doesn't disappoint them. He is not "sue happy" as some bloggers have written. He helps clients who have been injured by negligent people who should be sued. He is not "pro development". He is for PROPER development that will preserve Fayette County. I could go on and on. I just wish everone in this county could get to know the REAL Eric. I believe they will when they elect him on July 18th. He won't change who he is just because he is elected Commissioner.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 12:39pm.

You asked for it, so here it comes.

For about the past month some friends and I have been quietly asking questions about why Fayette County opted to not participate in the GRTA commuter bus program.

When the Fayette County Council was asked the question, representative Wells replied back that “it would only serve an elite few”.

According to the last numbers we’ve been able to find there are some 15,500 “commuters” in Fayette County.

Now the fun part. This WEB address, http://www.fayettecountyga.gov/pub_works/transplan_pubworks.htm, will direct you to the Fayette County Transportation Plan. Select the heading “Technical Report”. Please read the ENTIRE report before you arrive at any conclusions.

Note: Please pay attention to where it references the “modeling software”.
Now think back a few years when King Bob, et al, told us that the “modeling software”, (sound familiar), they used came to the conclusion that the traffic pattern at the intersection of Hwy. 54 & Hwy. 74 would improve?

To the point of the current blog, please pay special attention to Section “3.2 Recurring Themes”, “Growth, Development and General Transportation”. It is there that you will find the answer to what you seek. Does anything look familiar?

Now I invite you to look at all the other headings on that page and you will NOT find anything anywhere where the Fayette County Commissioners did anything about “Public Transportation”.

Now go to this WEB address, http://www.fayettecountyga.gov/administration/boc/archives/commission_meeting/2003min_boc/July22003minutes.pdf, and you will find where GRTA made a presentation to the Fayette County Commissioners.

What we have looked for, and can’t find, is any documentation where the Fayette County Commissioners discussed this proposal and arrived at some sort of consensus.

We have requested this information from the Fayette County Commissioners and as of today have not even received an acknowledgement of our request.

Before anyone spews out the old, “it will bring undesirables into our homes crap”, the Chief of Police in Newnan has written us and says:

“In reference to your request, we have not shown an increase of crime due to the GRTA service here. The bus is usually full when it departs our city in the morning and when it arrives back in the afternoon. The parking lot where the people park is full of their vehicles and gives us that much relief from them being in traffic. If anything, the bus service has reduced the number of vehicles on GA 34 during the busiest time of the day.

I do not have any numbers to supply you on this, as this is my personal observation and in reviewing our incident and accident reports on a daily basis”.


Chief Meadows
Newnan Police Department

Submitted by Sailon on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 11:32am.

"Old Folks" are two dirty words in Fayette County. We don't die as young as we used to do but we do get feeble. We are really just in the way. Respect for the aged used to be popular since everyone knew that their day would come. Most now think it won't happen to them, or that they will have sufficient money to hire everything done, including a driver. Drinking a lot is much more important. It keeps one from thinking much. So don't build a new old folks center, don't provide much trnsportation, don't help with the medical bills, and maybe you won't need them.

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Submitted by mapleleaf on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 10:56am.

My initial post was not so much about old people as it was about our candidates for public office.

These candidates want a favor from us, right now, namely our votes. They are the ones doing the begging and the spending. Not the old folks.

Our Fayette population is roughly 100,000. Many of these people are children too young to vote. We have perhaps 10,000 people over the age of 65. And we might have about 50,000 people registered to vote. So about 20% of our voters might be over age 65.

If our police’s role is “to protect and to serve,” our elected officials’ role is certainly “to serve.” These candidates are offering themselves for public service, not for feeding at the public trough, doing favors for their friends, and thumping their chests with great pride at July 4th parades.

How can they serve the public whose support they are now soliciting if they can’t figure out their prospective constituents’ problems?

Transportation is a problem in Fayette County. How can our college-age children attend schools like Georgia State or Georgia Tech, or even Clayton State, without transportation? We do provide transportation to our public schools, but what would make anybody think that transportation needs vanish beyond high school?

The main issue, by the way, is not so much about money as it is about availability.

Many seniors have money. Most of them have relatives who are happy to accept an inheritance from them. Nobody is asking for a handout here. What we’re asking for is thoughtfulness. The realization that there is a transportation problem for many seniors.

If those who wish to be elected “leaders” have about as much imagination as ants, we’ll never come up with solutions to anything. The AJC brought up a problem worthy of consideration. Now we need candidates worthy of our vote (on this and many other issues).

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 10:13am.

As I have often told my kids, when I start to drool, I’m taking up skydiving.

Remember, parachutes like SCUBA equipment generally come with a “lifetime” guarantee.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 9:45am.

Having lived in a Community that draws a lot of elderly for 20 years, being in an elderly situation in the family and more, I think I see some issues here more clearly than some, but not all others.

Many, many elderly are self deluded. The demand they are able to live independently, are competent to drive, make decisions and own homes.

They are everything but that.

The driving skills are gone. But they insist on getting out there anyway.

How does government react to them? No testing to see if they are able to drive and when they get in trouble, even not being able to find their way home due to Alsheimers, they police bring them and their vehicles home to drive another day.

Where are the kids? The kids, often in the 50s and 60s are up against the wall. The folks will not go into assisted living and will not live with them, but are constantly wanting the kids to fully take care of two houses.

How does it frequently end? The kids finally have to march in, forcibly pick them up and put them in Assisted Living since they no longer eat, bath or do other essentials of life for themselves.

No amount of government transportation or any thing else can change the simple fact these folk should not be on their own and have to have help, daily.

That addresses a large segment of the over 65 population in Peachtree City.

Now, what about those who still can live independently but do not drive?

Golf carts are indeed one answer. Making and teaming up with friends to meet common needs living transportation and companionship is another.

Problem there is many sit at home, complain they have no friends, but make no effort to find and make any.

We have such that live mere homes apart. But when you suggest or even offer to introduce them you get told NO!

So, seniors do create issues of their own.

Others do get together and do share. And those keep nicely active and occupied.

In other words, the over 65 that are unable to be on their own will not be benefited by transportation and such. They need Assisted Living.

Those who do not need it and network do not need it because they have worked out their lives.

Those who go recluse and complain will not use it.

And the few that are isolated, which is hard to justify in a place like PTC, can resolve their issues by moving to homes with peers around them.

My point is most, not all, but most, seniors with such issues create them for themselves by not acknowledging their realities or demanding others satisfy their realities on their terms.

Life just does not work that way and the world around them does not take on a responsibility to provide it for them.

Christian City is a good example. In Sparks there are those who see their realites and try to make the best of them. They are happy, even when, of course, wishing the realities were better for them.

Others sit around and complain they don't like it there and do not need to be there. They are miserable.

We should not abandon our parents and elderly. But neither should they take over everyone around them lives for their own use.

Always exceptions, I admit that. But this article was written in the all inclusive mode, so I responded in that mode.

Keeping it real and to the core of the issue, not the peripherals.

Submitted by defins on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 9:08am.

Can't they take care of themselves? Where are their children? Why is it the governments job to take care of them? If they are past the stage where they can't take themselves to the store,they need to find some other living arraignment.

Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 6:05pm.

Why should the innocent tax payers pay for teenage thugs to eat in prison.? Why can't we just be done with them?????? Why can't we fine their careless worthless parents into oblivion for their care once they are in prison.???? The kids (who commit crime) are the ones who are worthless and unproductive we have no need for them, and we should not have to pay for them.!!!!!!

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Submitted by muddle on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 9:29am.

That's right! Why should the taxpayer have to foot the bill for these people who no longer make any contribution to society? What *really* bothers me is that there are government funded nursing homes where people who could not otherwise afford it are given care! Who do you think pays for this? You and me, that's who, buster! It's time we put a stop to this! Turn them all out and let them fend for themselves! That way, we can take what we've saved in taxes and buy even more crap.

Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 5:57pm.

Who pays for all of the worthless birth-controll failures????? I will tell you who...the innocent tax payers who were too smart to have these accidents....thats who. These parents should pay extra fees to pay for their mistakes. I and my spouse should be given a tax break for being careful with birthcontrol!!! These people should pay extra fees to the school system for resources they are using.!!!! The only thing these kids contribute is crime.....I don't think that is worthy of a tax wright off.!!! You people need to pay for your mistakes.
At least our senior citizens are law abiding. They desevere more than worthless teenagers.

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Submitted by muddle on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 10:29am.

This reminds me of an old Steve Martin monologue:

"I'm so mad at my mother. She's 102 years old. She calls me up the other day. She wants to borrow TEN DOLLARS for some FOOD! Can you believe that?! I said, "Hey! I work for a living!" So I loan her the money. Yesterday, she calls me up and says she can't pay me back for a while. I said, "Hey! What is this bull$hit?!" So I worked out a deal with her. I'm having her work on my transmission. After that, she can move my barbells up to the attic. So that's pretty good, huh?"

Submitted by Sailon on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 11:48am.

Just in the way. You are just prolonging all of our agony.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 9:53am.

Christian City has many on the dole. And they need it.

I hate to think what it would be like without such places.

But other elderly have feelings of entitlement. That there should be a constant parade of help coming into their houses to keep them there, at the cost of others.

So, when one asks if we should help the elderly in need, my answer is yes.

But, when it starts with this stuff of government providing door to door services for those who do nothing to work out their own solutions, but are able to, I oppose such funding.

Need and feelings of entitlement are two distinctly different issues.

Keeping it real and to the core of the issue, not the peripherals.

Submitted by Sailon on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 11:46am.

The entitlement crap (means testing) simply divides us into two camps, each detesting the other. Also creates a huge group (hundreds of thousands) to half way administer it.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 12:22pm.

So, take from all to give to all?

Gee, nice to leave some for families to raise their kids, buy their own homes and such.

Welfare states are failures. It does not work. Creates more and more slummers on society.

I get mad at seeing those who have more money than me demanding those around them take care of them.

One week they want to share the expense of doing something for their home the association does not pay for. Then next week the have brand new car. Yep, been 3 years since the last one, and new carpet. Yep, been 5 years since last time.

They don't need help, but they feel entitled to it. They have earned it. Even when they have no right to it.

That is not means testing I am talking about. It is their thinking that elderly means they get, everyone owes them.

All for helping those in need in a practical manner. The key being practical.

Keeping it real and to the core of the issue, not the peripherals.

Submitted by tonto707 on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 12:42pm.

to get off your butt and learn a little of what you're posting about. The tag you mention on Eric's vehicle was removed as soon as he announced he would be running.

Lawyers for the last 25 years have been able to legally advertise and no one should blame a lawyer for doing what every other professional does.

And by the way, where will you look to when you need a lawyer? Ever given that any thought. Stereotyping lawyers makes no more sense than stereotyping any segment of our society. It doesn't work and the person doing it is choosing to "pigeon hole" their beliefs about certain segments and remain ignorant of the truth, always to their own detriment.

Try going to the candidates websites to learn more about them and their platforms. J D Holmes recently wrote a letter to one newspaper and tried to paint Maxwell as pro-development, which is an obvious crock, and is not supported by his list of contributions to his campaign fund.

Based on what I know of Greg Dunn over his 8 years and what I know about Maxwell, it's a no brainer and it's Maxwell.

Submitted by doc on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 3:28pm.

I don't like lawyers. I would tell Eric that to his face. But I've met him and I liked him. He jokes about what he does but he criticizes the money the Commissioners have spent on law suits.

It might be helpful to have a Commissioner who is a lawyer to sift thru the BS the County Attorney feeds the Commission that encourages so many lawsuits. That's my reason for wanting an attorney on the Commission.

When I see a tag like that on the car of a man trapped in a wheelchair, it makes me think his statement is "If you do this to me, I'll sue."

Plus, he can't be worse than Dunn, whos tag should read; I did sue, with your money and lost!

Submitted by Sailon on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 1:42pm.

I am going to vote for Eric because I know him and think he can handle both being a suing lawyer and a Fayette County Commissioner. However, your statement that he removed the tag when he signed up to run doesn't do away with the fact that he sues people. A rather dim statement. Some lawyers sue, some defend. Some are crooks.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 06/25/2006 - 12:50pm.

It sucks. I was on it this morning doing research about the blog.

Eric, get some GOOD info. on there and FAST.

Inquiring minds want to know and this site tells us NOTHING about the issues.

Get some history on your positions that people are interested in posted.

Tell us where you are and where you’re going on the issues that the residents of Fayette County want to hear about.

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