From the beginning of what? Your residency? I am an advocate for "Smart Growth." I am not naive enough to think that all growth will stop, nor did I say that, nor do I advocate that approach.

Not that it is relevant to the issue, but I do not live in or around Tyrone. I try to look at these issues in the context of the entire county, not just one area. You say that counties were not intended to oversee large infrastructures. The people in Davidson County Tennessee, which encompasses all of Nashville might disagree with you. So would Metro Dade county, Sarasota County..the list is endless.
That type of government is not planned for, nor intended for Fayette County.

Therefore your assertion is inaccurate or perhaps you are merely ill-informed.

The point here is that if the land use plan used by the county and updated every 5 years, is adhered to there will not be large growth and therefore no need for larger infrastructure. You are correct, homes will be built. Under county planning 100 acres would yield about 40 homes, 80 cars and 120 children in the schools. In the typical annexed, densified development that same 100 acres would generate as much as 300 homes, 600 cars and 900 kids in the schools.
Growth will occur. Which growth scenario would you prefer? If it is the latter then the options in the Metro area for you to live are endless.

What happens if an adjoining county area gets developed..that is precisely the point...if it is developed properly (according to the land use plan) there would be no need for Tyrone (or PTC or Fayetteville) to annex it. If you keep the number of homes per acre down you can have all the septic tanks that you need, federal laws do not apply unless you try to build something in a wetland, which this current county commission would never allow.

Your scenario may not be new, but it is not happening in the county unless and until one of the cities annexes the land. The responsibility for the uncontrolled growth lies with the cities, including the one in which you live.

thenatural is a breath of fresh air, ptc guy is like someone 'broke wind' in church!

Beginning of my residencey? Totally void of meaning statement. I was born in the US and settlement and city expansions have been a way of life from the beginning.

As has cities and towns dying out and reverting to county. Seem that two over my years.

You have made no point referring to such as TN and FL.

They still have cities in them which control city functions. There are still county functions the county controls.

Now let me make it more complex for you. There are cities that exist in multiple counties. So much for your thinking there.

They remain cities with their powers and the counties remain counties with theirs.

You are the one who is ill informed on these issues. Or do you actually think those counties and city governments are one and the same?

Of course we all should be for smart growth. Stupid not to be.

And you are wrong on no need to annex it. Obviously you have never lived where what you say would not happen if done that was did happen.

I have lived in such areas.

Your assumptions on septic tanks is simply wrong. Limits on septic tanks extend to more than wetlands. As in the water table was getting contaminated even with a one acre requirement.

It isn't as simple as you want it to be.

But this is getting pointless.

Good government is the answer. A bad county government can mess it up every bit as badly as a bad city one.

You are not going to be dissuaded and you cannot see beyond your own point of view. If we all adopted your mind set we should just dispense with land use plans and zoning requirements now because it is going to happen anyway so why try to even slow it down.
For the record, the references to the TN and FL locations are where the city and county governments have been combined and function as a single unit.
I do not think, I KNOW they are one in the same. I am well aware that there are cities (like Atlanta) that straddle counties. The result is a constant struggle between not two but all three governments on funding issues. That is a better idea?

We agree on the concept of "smart growth" but we have sharply diffent ideas of what actually happens under the concept.

I would love to comment further on your next statement but I cannot because it is frankly incoherent and if that is the best you can do...you are right ..this discussion is pointless.

By the way, you have good county government and that is why we have the quality of life we have here in Fayette.

Here is a list of merged counties and cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_city-county

Notice your claim on on Davidson is wrong. Yes, Nashville and the County merged. No. There are still 8 independent cities within county and participation in the metro government is two tier, not singular.

And you are wrong on Miami-Dade as well. It is not merged. It is federated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County,_Florida

Now, with that said, you are comparing where the city has swallowed the county, hence there is no difference in many realities.

Which makes it totally pointless as regards Fayette County. Thus meaningless.

As you miss my point of development. EVERY entity in Fayette needs to do its job correctly and efficienty.

And I can tell you PTC largely and the PTC Council does not share your glowing approval of the County Commission.

As for my next comment being "incoherent" try reading what it says.

It says you don't know what you are talking about on forced sewage system installations under Fed mandate or force annexation. I have LIVED where what you said could not happen DID. Saw it happen in TWO neighboring towns.

So, I will let it go with that dealing with the realities of Fayette County the best approach is to get good government, adopt strong and sensible planning and stick to it at all levels.

And get over the idea the County rules the Cities or the Cities rule the County.