Public Option is the road to Single Payer

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Rep. John Dingell Jr.

“It's way different than Dad's bill. Dad's bill was a single-payer, and frankly I'm a single-payer. I've seen what the Canadians do, the French do, the British, the Germans and the Japanese, and it works. I've always felt: Get what it is that works.”

Good Hope Hospital, a Government run entity in the UK, members of the Housekeeping staff were reminded that washing sheets cost about $0.40 per washing.

The solution was to “just turn over” the sheets between patients.

Waiting times are shorter than ever.. in a 06 UK Government press release..

Yep that’s right instead of a 7-12 month wait for surgery it is now only 6 months.

But wait for it..

The new Government program DESIGNED to decrease waiting times.. actually made those waits increase from 20% to 143% in most cases.

Oh the decrease where there for about 1% of the cases waiting..

Dental insurance in the UK..

Almost half of the dentist say they will not accept patients using Government Healthcare.

That has led to about 1 in 5 people deciding against ANY dental care because the cost is so high…

The solution The Government negotiated a new contract with dentist..

The result.. 58% of the dentist said it made the situation WORSE.... 84% of patients said it did not help them locate a new dentist..

and then there is NICE.. National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence..

Their mission.. to develop a “standard method of rationing”. What type of rationing.. Well ..Tykerg a drug that has been proved to extend the life and even save the life of Breast Cancer patients is just too darned expensive to supply this life saving drug to their patients.

In the UK about 20% of patients with TREATABLE colon cancer at the time of discovery are considered INCURABLE by the time the treatment is available.

and this is the system these guys want to copy..

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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 3:47pm.

Seems the Canadians are afraid of "competition". Why is that suggarfoot? Is this the type competition you want for us?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 4:01pm.

I know Hutch.. Don't get me wrong there are good things in the Canadian system as well as the UK.. but it is not the nirvana the lefties try to make it out to be..

Our current system beats theirs by miles...

People like SF have more than just a bit of wealth envy.. They would be happy with Salary controls placed on CERTAIN groups. We wouldn't want the Free Market to determine someones value.. Oh no.. the Government needs to do that for us..

"A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 4:56pm.

"We wouldn't want the Free Market to determine someones value.. Oh no.. the Government needs to do that for us.."

At this point, 'the ...free market....IS NOT DETERMANING these people's salaries.

THERE IS NO ...'FREE MARKET'....IN HEALTH CARE!!! that is the whole point. Insurance companies have a monopoly on it because they pay off the politicians to pass things in their best interest instead of the voters.

Don't worry SL, I have all the confidence in the world that your group will pay enough people to keep your big salaries floating around at our expense for years!


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 5:03pm.

that you are simply wrong..

You rant and rave for Government control.. I rant and Rave against Government control..

I have well about 50 years of Historical data that simply proves the Government cannot and will not improve the situation.. You have what?
Hopey Changey stuff..

Ask yourself one question.. Why can we not cross state lines to "SHOP" our insurance..? Who stopped that option..?

Let me give you a hint.. It was not the Insurance Companies..

"A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 5:09pm.

You insurance guys are the good guys, what would we do without you to save us sheep?


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 5:17pm.

but then again totally expected from you..

Deflect, Attack and then run.. I noticed you didn't answer that one.. Not that you even answered that other pesky little question I asked you.. You don't have to stand your ground and defend your views when all you have to give is a lame attempt to insult..

"A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson


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