But it’s not a fabrication, a friend emailed me the story of Darrell Powers and recounted it in the first person. It should have read, a friend told me a story. However, this minor error does not diminish the fact that America isn’t worth fighting for. And I’m not a conservative Republican. I wouldn’t give you 5 cents for the Republican Party.

OK,I'll give you a pass on the quote and will also admit that I'm not sure where the Repubs are headed. Where is Ross Perot when we really need him? OK, so let's take it as a given that you aren't willing to fight for this country. If you are so disenchanted and are not willing to work to change those things that you don't like, I don't know why you would stay in this country. So where do you plan to go?

Ross lit a spark in America at a very opportune time. He and the grass roots organization that sprang up could have made a difference. The people were ready but Ross quit on us. He was really just wanting to punish Republicans for personal reasons. The Repubs and Demos are both headed for oblivion. As George Wallace said, “there’s not a dimes’ worth of difference between them”. Of course Wallace, like all politicians rode with the wind himself.
It’s too late to work to change things. Economic events have over taken America. I’m staying here because I was born here and will work to pick up the pieces when the US is bankrupt and can no longer afford to keep the country from breaking up into geographical factions-like is now happening all over the world.

An old college frat brother of mine bought a home in Costa Rica a few years ago; I can go there if I want to. But I see better days ahead for parts of America once the greedy financiers in Wall Street are dethroned from control of the government. We’re witnessing the end of greedy capitalism controlled by money. A new era of local nationalism with a strong benevolent warrior mentality for leadership is upon us. Of course the transition will be chaotic. When the government is buying its own debt, you know the end is near. Then like-minded people can live as they choose with real free enterprise without stupid government regulations.

I hope the chaotic period is a sort of modern inquisition that rounds up and punishes our past and current traitorous leaders. I look forward to working in that kind of work.

But I see better days ahead for parts of America once the greedy financiers in Wall Street are dethroned from control of the government. We’re witnessing the end of greedy capitalism controlled by money.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater my friend. Captialism infested with the criminal thugs that run it IS certainly destructive and needs to be controlled. The antithesis to capitalism is government control and the elimination of the free enterprise system which gives us a facist / socialistic economy devoid of opportunity for any of us serfs. My goodness man... the same thugs that run much of Wall Street and the financial institutions are in bed with the same thugs that are hoisting these Big Brother Ponzi Schemes on America.

Hmmmm.. Thinking I might have misunderstood you I read your post again a couple of times. I shall leave my first paragraph in place yet concur with the spirit and accurate analysis of what is taking place in this country. I see no redemption taking place in Washington or Wall Street and I have no faith at all in either party anymore. Therefore a spirit of revolution has crept into my being these days as much as that thought troubles me and yes.... scares me too. You have to ask??? How long will the producers that are being robbed and swindled by our Ivy League rulers going to remain silent and passive?

I hope the chaotic period is a sort of modern inquisition that rounds up and punishes our past and current traitorous leaders.

How many individuals are going to be destroyed before the people realize what is besieging our opportunity and individual liberties? With this new wave of Hate Crimes Legislation coming about it won't be long at all until voices of dissent become victims of thought control and are punished accordingly. This whole thing is resembling a walk into the Twilight Zone.

My God I miss the concept of liberty......

P.S. I think the reason Perot quit on us was because he too gave lip service to the concepts that made this country great and he feared the possible loss of that which made him 'comfortable'. Kind of like the GOP who only services the concepts of limited government with lip service.

Obama.... The Bernie Madoff Of Washington

In the worldwide depression of the 1930’s people of some nations set up phantom governments ready to take over if their elected governments failed. This preventive planning involved new, strong local leaders banning together nationally to form a chain of militia’s to be ready to keep the peace and the setting up of new government offices ready to roll. Everywhere the voices of forefathers Jefferson, Jackson, Bryan & T.R sang out, over-whelming the government’s failures and crimes.

Farmers, who at the time were one of the largest segments of the population, took to the roads in shocking displays of lawlessness. In the brutal winter of 1933 these rebels banded together to prevent farm foreclosures and force mortgage holders to suspend the foreclosures.
Regional leaders like Tom Watson of Georgia, Huey Long of Louisiana and Charles Coughlin of Michigan took leadership of the populist movement bringing in millions of supporters. Charles Lindberg led the new America First party and was so hated by the socialist FDR Admin that he was refused to be allowed to join Air Force when WWII started. Lester Barlow, an effective orator of the farmer’s movement called for compulsory labor of the financial parasites associated with FDR’s government. Barlow also founded an organization called the Modern 76’ers to function as a parallel government to issue its own currency with a national citizen’s militia to run the country.
European Americans need to start organizing a shadow government, ready to take over in a national emergency. But first new leaders must emerge outside of Democrats & Republicans to become the new General Washington or Joan of Arc.

European Americans need to start organizing a shadow government, ready to take over in a national emergency.

However I see European Americans, African Americans Hispanics and such grouping together according to race into their respective 'tribes' or 'factions' for lack of better words. And from there the possibility of splinter groups that are value based which may perhaps in the end align themselves accordingly regardless of color but rather by their productiveness AND common values. If this were to ever come to pass I'd sure hate living around a metropolitian area like Atlanta. Sure am glad there are such vast numbers that resent and shun rural America. Their inabilities to cope, produce and survive on their own will keep them near the hell holes they will dwell around.

LOL! Keep this conversation up it could get real interesting. Gets you to thinking about where we are in coming few years.

Obama.... The Bernie Madoff Of Washington

European-Americans; Middle-Eastern-Americans; Oriental-Americans; African-Americans; SovietUnion-Americans; (You know Georgians, etc.);Mexican-Americans; Puerto-Rican-Americans; Cuban-American; Samoans-Islanders-Americans;and Odd-Miscellaneous-Americans such as Central-South-Americans; and Eskimos and Indians and Cowboys.

Isn't it amazing that after only 175 years we can now say "European American" and not have to say: Italian-American; Anglo-American; Jewish-American; Hungarian-American; German-American; Irish-American; Scot-Americans; Native-American; and so forth!

Now you guys want to break us up again instead of further pushing for assimilation!

As did the Italians, etc., all we have to do is get their cooperation to be American and not something else. (I know when they were called "Tallies and other stuff)
The ones other than European Americans might do that if we helped them and accepted no less from them than to try.

If we don't we will have the troubles of Iraq (three Tribes, at least) Israel-Palestine (3-4 Tribes at least; Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (God know how many)!

There ain't no other way than to accept leadership here from all "tribes"! We can scoot them out if they fail!

Long and Coughlin were idiots! Dictators without a country!
Lindberg was a NAZI! Or at least his family in Germany were!

People like them always have a better government for us!

I was a young man in the late 30s depression.
I saw no farmers rioting--they didn't have time.

The net is full of false and doctored "patriotism" stories where some are actually entirely made-up with no facts involved. Or the statements are attributed to the wrong person---many now about Obama that are not true.

Captain Kangaroo and Lee Marvin fought at Iowa Jima in WW2, did you know that? Marvin was decorated for bravery! Not true, the captain never served and Marvin was on another Island---got shrapnel in the butt and got no medal!

There is a whole factory spouting them out onto the net right now, most of them criticizing the President---all that I know of, incorrect.
I know this because I have a "contributor" who sends me 5-10 per week. They simply hate and despise Obama and are obvious racists.

I ignore them and certainly do not forward them. Some do without even checking them out---they don't want to know!

My thinking is that many "conservatives" are so ticked off and disappointed in their whole party and the condition we are currently in, that they are becoming hate-mongers against the other side. They want to try it again with someone even further right!

Both parties now in power are having to temporarily turn Socialist to save us from a horrible depression but it is not understood by those folks. We may remain half socialist for many moons!

Maybe we should have let the "Big Depression" occur immediately at the first of 2009 by letting all of the banks and insurance companies and Industry go boke at the same time. 25-30% or more unemployment might have pointed out the terrible condition our government got us into over the last 8-10 years.

Some will NEVER place the blame for ignoring the facts for at least the last 4-5 years when maybe action could have been less desperate.
But they all wanted to get re-elected, or elected, so they ignored it.

What do youi suppose McCain and Palin would have done about it?

Hee Haw, Hee Haw, the donkey brays,
my name is Bonkers is what he says.
Right and wrong I don’t see,
Barney Fag is my emcee.
All of those who disagree are racists obviously.
Economics is tweedle- de- dee, I rather watch porn movies on tv.
I’m not concerned about devaluation of the dollar, my head is totally hollow.
A temporary socialist I am, just to spend us out this depression jam.
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ho, Ho, Ho, that’s the way we need to go.
(I need to interrupt the donkey on that brilliance for a big laugh).
Half a socialists Bonkers will be, half an assed the donkey will be.
Lots of crime, killing babies, and illegal immigration is an Agenda of mine,
Let’s have it until the end of time.
So come on Horgan give Bonkers a joint, he thinks your attitude on leadership is right on point.
Now America let’s all jump on the donkey and go for a ride,
All downhill side by side.

Everything has a bottom and can't go downhill any further.
The only thing I can see happening now is up hill! Dpesn't matter what is done, it will have to be up hill--we will soon be at the very bottom! The last administration managed to escape before their banks, etc., ran out of credit and tricks, but they did leave Obama the first trillion needed!

Not a bad poem! I'll writ wun lak hit sumtime.

Is it all right to have illegal immigration as long as you say it is NOT alright verbally?

Is it all right to have abortions as long as you say it is NOT all right?

Is it all right to have two wars as long as you say they are NOT wars?

Is it all right to say the banks are strong when you know their assets are worthless--as long as you say they are strong it is OK.

Is torture all right as long as you say there is none?

Is it right for 60 million people to have no health insurance as long as you say they can beg for it?

Is oil worth 4000 lives and 40,000 terribly wounded?

Is family values and a "Christian Nation" the way to go, as long as you say it is, but you don't practice it?

Are the likes of Rush, Sean, O'Reilly, the skinny blond, the other TV idiot, Newt, etc., what we want to aspire to be like?

Not yet Bonkers. At most we’re only half way. The down turn started in early 2007, that’s only 2.5 years. It took 5 years to reach bottom in 1934 with 25% unemployment. But by the 1938 unemployment was still at 19% and that 6% reduction was almost entirely government works programs paid for by taxes.

My daddy was employed in FDR’s Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) which allegedly worked on natural resource projects but was actually a paramilitary designed to keep the peace or go to war. I still have a photo of his Company “C” dressed in full military militia uniform with rifles in hand dated Aug 22, 1936, in training at Camp Foster, Fla.

The housing deflation hasn’t reached its peak and the commercial is just getting started. Banks are continuing to fail and unemployment is still rising at over 10%. In relative terms to the 1930’s that’s only 40%. But this depression is much worse because of the national debt and continued government spending deficits.

A bottom won’t be reach until at least early 2011. Then the long road back up will still be a depression lasting at least 8 more years, not taking into consideration natural disasters, collapse of the dollar and possible revolution. My dad was unemployed after he finished his “CCC” military training and didn’t get full time work until WWII reached America at which time he was employed in a wartime job called “War Assets”.

Bonkers, I’m sorry you have fallen for your government’s promises to spend its way out of the depression. If this false sense of security makes you feel better, please be aware of the historical consequences of depressions. You have been blinded by Demos and Repubs in fighting for money and power. These liars won’t be around much longer and soon we’ll all have to start thinking about real solutions for survival.

Read my "Wedge, War, and Depressions" here!

You didn't understand it all. You are not far of, by the way!

I find it interesting that you think this is the very bottom. Oh, how sadly you are wrong. Our historical bottom is around 24% unemployment and I think that is entirely possible within the next decade. Why are you thinking that having wars and not calling them that is only a Bush thing? Look at history--We violated Mexican terrioty seeking an outlaw. We have invaded half of central america in the last 100 years without a declaration of war. Truman did Korea. JFK did Vietnam, Reagan did Grenada. Then of course the Gulf Wars. It is a bi-partisan effort there, slick.
And if health care is now an enumerated right in the constitution, then we have just lost easy access to healthcare. We esteem nothing and we b&t*h about everything, we are truly deserving whta we are getting. BOHICA.

I said, "we will SOON be at the bottom. "I don't, of course, know when "soon" is. I was talking about the recession we are currently in, and when it does finally bottom and start back up with employment, etc., It will then have been the worst ever.

I do see that I didn't make that point clear. I don't spend much time on these comments as to clarity sometimes--I apoligize.

You could be right about "declared wars" by congress. That doesn't seem acceptable to the citizenry any more, but they do seem to accept a temporary amount of money to solve a problem, then more temporary money, then more temporary money later. (seven years of ot so far with this one.) We hop off to war for two planes crashing, just to be Macho.

I don't know what one can call it but a war with over 100,000 of "them" dead and UNTOLD wounded and maimed; and for us, 4-5,000 dead and 30-40,000 wounded and maimed. Not to mention tens of thousands of soldier's families devastated.

We have really just started in Afghanistan again. Are we supposed to occupy that place and set up democracy there, also? Can't you just see 10,00 MULLAHS lining up to vote?

I suspect Iraq will be back as they were seven years ago within a couple of years. That is what they have done for 7000 years!

Then of course Iran would also welcome a bombing and invasion of some kind from us. Then they could kill many more of the heatherns! Those Persians have been around a long time.

Do you suppose Un Jong Il, N. Korean young son of the fellow who is dying, will continue shooting off missles?

What are we doing in these places anyway? What are we going to do with them?

Also, I think 20% unemployment is also very likely, "soon." And maybe 35% "underemployed." (includes the 20%)
However, this "stupid Positivity" heritage we currently live in won't accept it and then make our leaders get off their butt now and stop it!

Can you imagine such stupid positive statements as I heard last week on FOX when they said: Unemployment is improving and it may be over the hump. We only had 450,000 newly unemployed last period and in the preceding period it was 480,000!
Whether it accumulates at 500,000 or 300,000, it will get to DEPRESSION soon!

First with TARP we kept the bankers working, now we are keeping the teachers, cops and firemen and tax payroll people working-----Who is next?

I think the State Budgets-- CA at any time.
Then the Airlines again.
Then the trains again.
Then "Small Business" whatever that is.

When are we going to support somebody making something at the manufacturing level to sell?

And embraced by both party elites. The rank and file for the republicans less so. It pushed many to liberitarian status. I have spent 1/2 of my adult life in manufacturing and our national policy has been to destroy our manufacturing base in order to keep inflation in check. Our montary chickens are coming home to roost soon. Free trade has not been free, but the American consumer and taxpayer has made a Faustian bargain.