Special Education Students in a Collaborative Class

Wed, 03/18/2009 - 3:53pm
By: Gcat

Just wondering if any parents out there ever check their children to see how much attention they are given by a collaborative teacher in a regular class. For any who do not understand, many special needs students are in a regular classroom that has two teachers. One teacher is the regular teacher and the other is a special education teacher who is there to help the students with an IEP. That teacher should be active in the classroom during instruction, directions, tests, and guided practice.
Ask your kids how many of them see a collaborative teacher sitting at a desk during class.
Given the current financial crisis, I’ll bet that many of these are a waste of money in the high school level.

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Submitted by allegedteacher on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 8:25am.

There is opportunity for collaborative teachers to sit at a desk and do nothing. This is not to defend that practice but to perhaps broaden perspective on special education services. I am a resource/collaborative special education teacher; I have students in my classroom wherein I am the sole teacher, and I also work in the regular classroom with a regular education teacher implementing IEP goals. If a child with an IEP is in a collaborative class, he/she generally is expected to perform the same as the children without IEPs but with some, sometimes very slight, modifications. Often, that child is encouraged, through nonintervention and teacher observation, to push past the expectations of the IEP. Thus, sitting at a desk could be a part of that practice, but, certainly, it is no practice at all if it is done 100% of the time. And, shame on that teacher. I am pleased to report that the special education teachers at my school in Fayette County work very hard for our students, AND we help any of the regular education students who need clarification, etc. Our regular education teachers work very hard, too. We are a team, and our focus is on the children, not on whose job it is to do this and that. I hope that ANY teacher who is not carrying her/his weight will be disciplined or asked to leave, for next year we will need all of our collective energy to maintain high academic standards, as well as our professionalism, in the face of lower salaries, fewer human and material resources, and furloughs.

Submitted by ptcmom678 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 6:32am.

I am a former teachers, and have taught with several collaborative teachers. Two of my kids had collaborative teachers until high school. I have NEVER seen or heard of a collab teacher sitting down at a desk. First, the desk in the classroom is the teacher's desk. The collab teacher will ask the classroom teacher before using her desk at all, and it's usually just to check something immediate pertaining to one of the students in the class. The second reason they aren't sitting down is that they don't have time to. Collab teachers usually have more than one student in any given class and must constantly be checking on each student. These collab. teachers are also responsible for the IEP paperwork on each special ed. student they work with. Do you know how much paperwork each special ed. student generates?!? It's staggering. An annual review is mandated for each student. A special ed. teacher is absolutely slammed with paperwork from February to the end of the school year, not to mention setting up meetings, attending those meetings, and doing the paperwork resulting from those meetings. No wonder Special Education has such a high burnout rate. Fayette County also has it's share of high-maintenance helicopter parents who email (and expect a reply) on a weekly if not daily basis.

Submitted by USArmybrat on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 7:12am.

I have a child that has been under an IEP for several years. The collab. teachers she has encountered have been top-notch people; caring and hard-working. They have made a huge difference in my child's education and have a tremendous burden on them with the excessive paperwork and all the meetings they have to conduct besides being with our children in class. It is a difficult job and I thank them for doing it so well!

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Submitted by dawn69 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 11:59pm.

Hey, Armybrat, my son receives Special Ed. services too. He's in first grade and has received Special Ed. services since Pre-K.

He couldn't hear for the first 2 1/2 years of his life so, his speech was greatly affected. Speech therapy is under the umbrella of Spec. Ed. and thank God for the Speech therapist at Inman Elem. (formerly East Fayette Elem.). She has taken a boy that no one could understand and turned him into a non-stop talkaholic. He still has trouble with blended sounds like 'ch', 'tr', etc. and this is holding him back a little with phonics, but he has made so much progress.

The Special Ed. staff is wonderful and yes, the IEP paperwork is astounding. It's a wonder they get anything accomplished at all. We have had 2 meetings so far this year and one coming up in May. Usually, these meetings commence for a good hour not counting the time these teachers have put into filling out the mountain of papers.

Kudos to all teachers, especially Special Ed. teachers. Your job is hard and often unappreciated.

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 7:42am.

President Obama makes a Special Olympics joke - staffer apologizes

In a lighthearted conversation, President Obama told Jay Leno that he recently bowled a 129 at the White House bowling alley.

“Very good,” Leno said sarcastically.

“It was like Special Olympics or something,” Obama replied.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

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Submitted by Main Stream on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 8:35pm.

...on another website, regarding the Special Olympics comment:

"I should maybe, be perturbed, I don't know. After 8 - 9 years of bigger stuff to get pissed about, I've kind of gotten a bit more selective. Plus I'm buzzed."

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 8:20am.

That was the point where I changed channels. Did it get any worse?

Just ...when...I...uh...um...thought...um...ah...I..
.uh..um...we...um...er...ah...um...couldn't....um...you know...um...er...ah..find...um...ah...er..uh...anyone..
.to...ah...um..er...to...um... make...W....uh...um...er...look..um..

This guy is hilarious with or without a teleprompter. The St.Patricks day thing was awesome too. All the leader of Ireland could was be gracious as obumbles read the wrong speech.

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Submitted by diva on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 4:13pm.

You camelion "conservatives" can switch from "Can't people speak their minds" arguments to The P.C. Police squad. Yea, sky. You've never said "sped." You've never called anyone a tard. And we must be politically correct so as not to offend anyone. You might want to apply for an ACLU job and start advising all who are offended to sue the government. Laughable outrage, Sky.

ps: You'll hat "Tropic Thunder"

Submitted by USArmybrat on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 1:23pm.

This "chameleon" conservative doesn't use those words like "tard", Mr. Diva. And not because it isn't "P.C." but because it is plain offensive. I have a relative that has more than one child that is "challenged" not to mention my own child that has had many learning difficulties. So, yeah, what the so called gifted orator said was thoughtless. But, it does give us a bit more insight to him when he is unscripted.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 12:51am.

This is profoundly sad. This has been just another sad week of gaffes. Starting with the St. Patricks Day thing.

Making fun of people with challenges or disabilities isn't funny.

I thought I had showed you the paintings and pen and ink drawings from my grandmothers brother. He was born with rheumatoid arthritis. His hands were deformed from birth. I keep his pen and ink drawings in a safe. I thought I showed you his picture and painting that I inherited from the 20's. He had no training or instruction, but could paint circles around me, and I have normal hands. I have had the benefit of college courses and many art instructors after college and still put up pathetic paintings compared to his. I also have some of his original powder paints that you add oil too, and his 2 brushes....thats right...only 2.

With only 2 brushes he produced paintings that looked like photographs, and with baskets full of every shape brush known to man I produce crap. Go figure.

I also started making car payments again. My dad inherited a 1942 Chevy that was custom built for his uncle with a handicap. He inherited this car in the late 70's. He would drive it off and on,(more off than on). He loved this car because it came from his uncle who had some challenges in life, and because it reminded him of the good old days. He wouldn't let me give him money to fix it up. I wanted him to enjoy it, and drive it until he died. So I came up with a brilliant plan. I'm buying it. The deal is he keeps it, and drives it until he dies. I pay to fix it up, now he has to put miles on it....thats all I ask. Please,...an antique car with only 70,000 original miles on it. I told him it had better have over 100,000 miles on it or the deal might be off....(wink, wink)

I'll show you the pictures of my "new" car the next time you come over, and if you are real nice I'll show the pen and ink drawings that I have in the fire proof safe.

I am a little sensitve when people pick on people with handicaps or challenges. They are close to my heart, and so much stronger and more talented than the rest of us.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 1:18am.

My grandfather also had rheumatoid arthritis and was a very talented artist. He never painted much, but did amazing drawings and carvings. He was missing both index fingers so add that to the arthritis and it was a miracle he could do the things he did.

Grandaddy lived with us after my grandmother died. I spent most afternoons after school in the garage (his studio). My drawing table was right next to his. We spent those afternoons talking about art, my mom as a little girl, the war (WWII), and just life in general.

I remember telling him one day that I would "sell my soul" to have a voice like my friend Cindy. He told me that God gives each of us a special gift. Some are gifted at teaching, others gifted in debate, still others are gifted entertainers, singers, painters, writers, etc. Then he told me that I had the gift God wanted me to have and that coveting another's gift was wrong. He also said that we have an obligation not to squander the gift we're given and to use it to make others happy. That's what I hope for when I paint - I hope that someone finds joy from something I've drawn or painted.

I did not know that you are artistic. We should get together soon and share those old drawings you have. I'll bring my portfolio next time.

Good night,

Shannon Dawn

P.S. I really need to change my avatar. My son is getting a little jealous that my daughters portrait has been my avatar so long. Maybe I'll use one of his drawings - he's gifted in the arts too.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 7:16am.

That would be great. Plus I could use some pointers. As soon as I finish this big house project I need to get back to drawing and painting. At least 20 mins. day. It is relaxing. Have a good weekend.

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 1:35pm.

Special Olympics bowler: I can beat the president!

"He bowled a 129. I bowl a 300. I could beat that score easily," Michigan's Kolan McConiughey (KO-lahn Mc-KAHNA-he) told The Associated Press in an interview Friday.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

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