Savage: “Obama appointees actually have almost the same exact policies as the Nazi Party did”

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Kurt Nimmo
March 13, 2009

Michael “Savage” Weiner, corporate media talk show host and former beatnik, has told his audience that Obama’s appointees are following the policies of the Nazis. Savage, a former Bush supporter and notorious carnival barker for the false right-left paradigm (and neocon Muslim-hater), does not bother to call out a single Obama appointee by name. Instead, in the audio clip here, Weiner concentrates on Obama’s “green shirts,” an allusion to Hitler’s SA brown shirts.

Savage is correct about the fascistic character of Obama’s mass movement, but he has conveniently omitted an important part of the larger picture.

Hitler was a creation of Wall Street financiers and the international bankers, a historical fact documented by British economist, historian, and writer Antony C. Sutton. Sutton documents the roles played by J.P. Morgan, T. W. Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric Company, Standard Oil, National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, and other elitists in the rise of Hitler and Nazism.

“Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920s which in turn proceeded to bring Hitler to power,” writes Sutton in the final chapter of his book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler. “Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944.” Hitler’s mass movement was a creation of bankers and industrialists.

In Adam Lebor’s Hitler’s Secret Bankers (see also Charles Higham’s Trading With the Enemy), we learn how the Basel-based Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and its American president, Thomas McKittrick, continued trading and money laundering on behalf of the Nazis throughout the Second World War.

BIS is an international organization of central banks established under the globalist Bretton-Woods International Financial scheme. BIS is closely associated with the Bilderberg Group, the elitist organization established by the Nazi collaborator Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands (see Alden Hatch’s H. R. H. Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands for more on Bernhard’s SS connections).

It should be noted that Timothy F. Geithner, Obama’s point man on the economy and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, sits on the board of directors of BIS (Fed mob boss Ben Bernanke also sits on the board of this one-time Nazi front group that now controls the IMF and World Bank).

It is no mistake Bilderberg and Rockefeller stooge Henry Kissinger came out early in favor of Obama, as did Rockefeller minion and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Obama’s appointees are overwhelmingly of the globalist and bankster persuasion — a preponderant number are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, and the Trilateral Commission.

Financial support for the Obama campaign flowed in from Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, J.P. Morgan Chase, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, and others.

Michael “Savage” Weiner would have us believe Obama is a “neo-marxist fascist dictator” and his hand-picked appointees “actually have almost the same exact policies as the Nazi Party did,” when in fact Obama’s policies are those of the bankers, not Hitler or Ernst Röhm, co-founder of the Sturmabteilung or SA. In fact, Obama is a puppet for the global elite and it is completely irrelevant if he subscribes to Marxism, Nazism, or anything else.

Savage and the neocons are fond of conflating Nazism with “progressive” Democrat liberalism — which is yet another artificially generated flavor of bankster dominated statism — a tactic they employed in the days following the false flag attacks of September 11, 2001, when neocons absurdly attempted to demonize Muslims as “Islamofascists.”

In a call to Savage’s radio show, activist Mark Dice was able to get the former beatnik turned talk show host to admit he believes any mention of the Bilderbergers is too “esoteric” for his largely neocon wannabe audience. It is not the Bilderbergers (and by way of extension the CFR and the Trilateralists) we need to worry about, but rather the “Democrat socialist group run by Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Ann Feinstein, and the others.”

Weiner further admits he has known about the Bilderberg Group since 1990, and yet he refuses to discuss the organization’s objectives and the indisputable fact members are at the highest levels of government, including the Obama administration. It is the Democrats we need to worry about, declares Savage, not the international banking elite.

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers,” wrote the historian of the elite, Carroll Quigley, in his book Tragedy and Hope, Bill Clinton's favorite book. “Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.”
Michael “Savage” Weiner understands this all too well. His role — along with Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and other corporate media “conservatives” — is to foment a carefully orchestrated and controlled opposition to the current regime so that in four or eight years, after Obama has accomplished the tasks assigned to him by the global elite, the American people “can throw the rascals out… without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 10:57pm.

Is a certifiable lunatic. Another great person for the Dem's to put out there as a spokesman and leader of the Republican Party.

What a creepy blowhard. Y'all can have him.

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 12:47pm.

this article was a put down of Savage, noting that he refuses to point the finger at the true enemy: closed door think tanks that are the REAL policy makers, namely The Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foriegn Relations, and the Tri-Lateral Commission. That leaves out the privately held Federal Reserve Central Bank legalized in 1913, and incorporated, (YES INCORPORATED!?!?!?) in 1914.

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In Liberty,


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 6:59pm.

I just finished reading Kershaw's Hitler, and wanted to add a little perspective. Hitler got gassed with mustard gas in the waning days of World War I. He had a lengthy convalescence in Munich. He on government disability while undergoing rehab, and couldn't get a job.

At this time the Communist party was making significant inroads in the German military. The bankers and industrialists were afraid of a military coup that would install a Communist regime in Germany and communize both the banking system and heavy industry.

The created a training school to teach people how to spread capitalist and nationalistic propaganda. Hitler and 39 others enrolled in the school. 34 members washed out of the program. The honor graduate of this training school was Adolf Hitler. The bankers and industrialists paid to send Hitler all over southern Germany (Bavaria mostly) to harrangue troops on the evils of communism. Along the way, Hitler discovered that demonizing Jews got an even better response from military crowds.

Sadly, as late as 1934 the industrialists thought they "controlled" Hitler, they believed he was their puppet.

They had much better luck with George W. Bush, but that was many years later.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:14pm.

Hitler - now there's a paradox! Persecuted gypsies and witches...yet was heavy into the occult. In fact, I believe he was an avid reader of Nostradamus (who was an alchemist). Persecuted the jews...yet, I remember reading somewhere that his mother was Jewish.

I saw a documentary years ago that correlated Hitler's childhood with Hussein's. The similarities were amazing. They both had abuse and/or abandonment issues. Maybe Hitler hated his Jewish mother.

I've not read Kershaw's book. Does he go into the psychology of why Hitler did the things he did? Sounds like a good read.

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 3:41pm.

supporting Saddam against Iran in the early 1980's, huh? Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 11:02pm.

They've either forgotten or glossed it over in their memory or never let themselves believe it in the first place. One excuse or another. Take your pick.

National Security Archives

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Submitted by dawn69 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 6:45am.

No "glossing over" here - I was in Junior High in the early 80's.

I am aware that we seem to have made a policy of supporting future enemies. This policy spans decades and is a prevailing theme for the twentieth century, setting the stage for problems with foreign policy today. Jeff, you would know better than I, why do we consistently support those that later come to hate us?

I've mentioned that I've been reading Ron Paul's book 'A Foreign Policy of Freedom'. Again, I go back to page 200 where he states (in March of 2002): "The law of unintended consequences applies to international affairs every bit as much as to domestic interventions, yet the consequences of such are much more dangerous.".

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 6:07am.

Are you implying that if Reagan lost the US would not have "cozied" up to Saddam? Realizing the dynamics and importance of the region and the sour taste that the US had with the Iranians after the 1979 overthrow of the Shah and subsequent takeover of our embassy with its staff held hostage.

My own personal opinion is that the US had painted itself into a corner again and as such, certain events and alliances would occur regardless of who was President.
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Submitted by mysteryman on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 8:39pm.

An excellent read, and provides an insight unto current events and those leading up to the coming conflict.... BLESS...

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Submitted by diva on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 10:11am.

I mean, you guys have lost it! Honestly!

Mysteryman, changing history with "one bullet?"

Git Real considering our president a mistake (not that the VP daughter dumping her baby daddy would not have been entertaining). I wonder what Mr. "I'm not too smart on economics would have solved in his first 50 days.

Lindsey and Sky consider "democrat" a word worse than "terrorist." Now, let's think this through. How tongue and cheek have my conservative friends been with terror and terrorism? Not exactly subjects made light of by this crowd. As a matter of fact, if you want to be labeled unpatriotic, make light of terrorism or claim it can be dealt with by the legal process, and you will be drawn and quartered.

But, what about "patriotism?" This is where the right has really lost screws! Our president, the mistake, and the government are Marxist, Nazi (apparently), communistic, and, according to some, the country DIED Jan 20th, 2009. Really? How much pride does that instill?

And, if government can do nothing right, what does that say of government employees like the entire U.S. military? These are government formed, trained, and paid. Do you guys think nothing through as you speak of need of militias since law enforcement and/or the military cannot be counted on?

And, as many a conservative launches into a homicide case to blame rap music, they offer no solutions as to why, just one state over, a man might kill 10. Are they not equally concerned with mass loss of life?

I just don't get the pro life, pro war, pro death penalty, pro freedoms (except where the government can keep gays from doing things one doesn't agree with) crowd.

And, when your champion to be shown deference and respect is an overweight, thrice-married and divorced former drug addict, you've got problems folks. Serious ones!

I'm not trying to step on peoples' toes, but if the shoe fits, pinch it between your knees and walk like a duck. My friends, you are slipping into the realm of political insignificance. I know how David Frum was greeted for saying similar things, so I don't expect to feel the love, but the blogs have become a cesspool of nonconstructive paranoia.

Last thing to think about: PTC is a republican city in a republican county in a republican state. And we're running out of cash. Did ACORN do that? Did Obama cause it? Is this liberalism's failing that Rush speaks of?

I guess I'm just missing something, and my conservative friends will quickly come and usher in solutions to our problems in short measure.

Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:38pm.

It's hard to lose 'power' - even when those in 'power' have not performed well. Many here have admitted that they were not pleased with the governance for the past 8 years. I'm waiting to see if Obama's policies will work - and if they don't - if the 'experts' are on top of things with a Plan B. No administration has been required to 'prove' themselves in 50 days. We'll see.

Submitted by USArmybrat on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 3:55pm.

I can't quite understand you sometimes. You rail about our supposed inconsistencies, yet you and many in your party continue to this day to bring up about the issue of the Palin kids. The absolute glee you and others would have at those kids' expense is so puzzling. You don't otherwise seem to be that kind of person. It's like you lose all perspective with anything "conservative". You said you might be missing something and maybe that is it...perspective. And by the way, our military is amazing. It only has major problems when the government (Washington) gets into it's affairs too much and screws up things.

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Submitted by diva on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 1:30pm.

"you and many in your party continue to this day to bring up about the issue of the Palin kids."

Armybrat? You know where I heard about that story of Bristol and beau splitting? Fox News morning show! Yes. Those wacky lefties at Fox, brat. It is news. It's news you'd like to bury, but you can't. And that is my point. Purely mentioning the facts of her split are an attack of sorts, unless Fox News mentions it.

But the greater point, USAB: Out of all that I wrote, I believe there is a reason you grabbed onto Bristol. Nothing else is even defensible. Your party of patriots are calling their country communistic and socialistic with a Marxist chaser while bashing the government as being inept and capable of no good deeds while considering yourselves patriots.

I would put my tongue on a car battery for the chance to have some original GOP thoughts on here to actively debate. That is fun to me. The last exchange I had with meanoldconservative was fantabulous. But those days are gone. Your side is filling loony bins with spare parts, and I'm just gonna have to sit back and see where you guys end up. Watching earmarkers complain about earmarks is entertaining, but impossible to debate. So, I guess I'll just pop some popcorn and watch the Limbaugh/Steele-lead train wreck.

Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 7:14am.

Unlike you, I have no party that I am willing to follow blindly.I am not a member of the Republican Party and whenever I get those "stamp-included" return letters from the MANY republican organizations out there, I return them with only large-print words stating my opposition to them. When it came to this past election, I had no good choice. It was either bad or much worse. I don't think McCain would have been a good president but I don't think he would have embraced all those earmarks in the porkulus package. As far as "actively debating", you don't. You just toss all of us in the same "loony bin" together and blind yourself to any type of true discourse. And you still never answered why it is ok to take such glee in bashing a young girl that made a mistake but is trying to work through it in a responsible way. It's one thing for the media to "report" on it, because that is what they do. But to use that to justify your own actions, I don't think so.

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 1:45pm.

We don't get news. We get televised TABLOIDS!!! Who gives a flying rat's behind about who's KID does what?!?!?

I want television reports on where the hell is all of our MONEY going!!! No, no. We're not going to get to the bottom of that on TV. We're going to show you Britney shaving her head, and the latest exploits of Tom Cruise, and Oprah has gained then lost 10 pounds.

Stop arguing over meaningless crap non-issues!!! Put a microscope on the FED RES Inc, and stop being distracted by propaganda entertainments!!!

In Liberty,


Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:29pm.

We can continue this nonsense about who is worse - but we all had better hope that SOMEONE gets us out of this mess with a vision for the future! This is one time in history that we are ALL in this mess together! We all have a responsibility here to tighten our belts, take advantage of the upturn when and if it comes, and be smart enough not to make the same mistakes that were made in the past. Those of you who were perfect and responsible; paid your bills on time; made good investments; worked hard; never had to ask anyone for help - CONGRATULATIONS. But now is the time for you to exercise your responsibility in a democracy - and keep an eye on what your local, state, and federal leaders are doing in your name!! (Or else the big money guys will be right back in power - as we go on thinking the 'government' is 'them. WAKE UP! The government is us! White and Black are straw arguments to keep us separated. Don't fall for it!! Let's unite as Americans - and keep our eyes on those we elected. It's OUR government and OUR money.

Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:54pm.

What you are asking would require that people turn off Divorce Court, and Judge Joe Brown, and wake up from being hypnotised by daytime television, and actually start to do for themselves and quit worrying what everyone else has , or what they can get from someone... My favorite commercial and gauge of society is the J.G Wentworth ad, where everyone has been apparently done wrong by someone else, and they all holla out the window 'ITS MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOW." Well its our government, and we need it now more than ever to do as we say and not as it wants, until people start to realize this, and quit waitin for a hand out, i fear all is lost. I know at the end of the week when i get my check and see that almost half is missing, you would think that would be cause enough for folks to wake up and heed the call, add to that the taxes on goods and services, and you are already working for 50 cents on the dollar as it is. Now they are talking about a healthcare tax???? Are we kidding folks, whats it gonna take for us to come together and stop this maddness. Oh yeah i forgot Judge Joe is on so i am wasting my breath.....PEACE

Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:12pm.

The 'politicians' are hoping that 'we' do just as you have stated. I think that those 'under 40' voters are not in the mood to go back to TV as usual. My 'bet' is on them. They are 'new' to the process - and feel that they are actually a part of it. They are still involved! They represent 'Americans' - not black, white, yellow, etc. - conservative, liberal, - they want to see their country 'respected', strong, and fair. They are amazed at a part of the country - which represents about 30% of the populace are caught up in this 'Obama stinks' philosophy after 50 days of his administration. They are already watching how the stimulus package is being spent in their respective states. They and others are lining up by the tens of thousands taking advantage of job fairs and job training opportunities. They have 'hope'. If the naysayers have a plan that they are sure will turn this country around in less than 50 days - LET'S HEAR IT! In the meantime, you and I are on the same page - I just see the glass half full. Smiling

Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:52pm.

I never will forget my high school reunion, last year, and the shear number of poor souls that had made poor life decisions so to say, and showed no motivation what so ever to improve their situation. While i was conversing with some of them, the conversations seemed to always revolve about remember back in the day. Why i am all about remembering the good ole days.... When i asked what were their plans for the future were.. Most of them looked at me as if dumbfounded, as if they were even going to change for the better or alter there routine to where they could get out of the hole they had dug, most had not even the first clue. I was besides myself and almost had a tear in my eye listening to some of their stories, and remembering how they all had promise and hope back in the day. Out of the entire 335 prople that showed up only about 45 had what i would call, made somthing of themselves outside of maintaining the status quo {living paycheck to paycheck}. What amazed me most was their attitude, that all was lost, and this is the hand that i had been dealt mentality...
It was like they had given up hope... I thought to myself for all i have been through, for the many times or reasons why that i could have used to give up hope, and did not, what made me different from them???? One word drive..... For it was the only thing that keeps me going, that drive to do better, the drive to help others help themselves, the drive to better yourself each and everyday reguardless of personal gain or whats in it for me.. Let us pray that this drive will find is way into others lives. While i know i use sarcasm to make light of the situation sometimes, it is only because i have been to the edge and made it back, its because i have been in those situations where you have to maintain control and keep going to persevere not only for yourself but for the rest of your men and women who are depending on you and looking to you for answers and leadership in time of crisis, let us hope some of these soul and those of you reading this post will find that drive that motivates you to do better each and everyday no matter how small the initiative....BLESS

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 7:57pm.

is to instill hopelessness in us, a sense of despair, so we don't fight back.

They did the same thing back in 1929, conspiring banksters, foisting upon us FEAR, so that they might emerge the rulers of us ALL.

We must do all we can to wake these people up!!!

In Liberty,


Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 9:53pm.

And these peoples house could catch a blaze, and from talking to some of them.... I think there would be a lot of burnt up folks, im sad to report, before the majority of them would wake up.... Honest its was like wading through a herd of cattle, or a flock of zombies....BLESS

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Submitted by dawn69 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:36pm.

Never bend over in front of a politician. Not even to tie your shoe.

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 7:51pm.

that reminds me of: "Never take your eyes off your opponent, even when you bow."- Bruce Lee

In Liberty,


Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 2:12pm.

Countless times we have seen this Diva, its not fiction, is a fact, lets explore together as i hold your hand....

Had Abe Lncoln not been assinated, at the closing of the civil war, affirmitive action and equal rights would have been established 100 years earlier, and there would have been no use for the NAACP, the movement of the 60s, the segregated schools, just imagine what if..

I could go on all day, but im sure we all had to sit through or sleep through history class so ill spare you any more comparisions..

I will take the liberty to address your one other concern. "AS A CONSERVATINE LAUNCHES INTO A HOMICIDE CASE, AND SAY THAT RAP MUSIC IS TO BLAME."

Well if i grew up in the hood, and listened to the Chronic Album over and over again everyday, while i ditched class, and threw dice down at the corner.. Well then i guess i would have turned out to be a gladiator too, riding around in my 64, pulling thrillseeker liquor store robberys, with born to lose written across my chest... So i give you that one.....PEACE

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 2:23pm.

Events occur, and the results are history. You can say that one bullet fired can change the course of events, but we don't even know that for sure. Regardless, consider the opposite to also be true: one bullet not fired can change the course of events. To quote Aslan in the Chronicles of Narnia: "Child, no one is ever told what would have happened."

It's not easy being the carbonunit

Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 2:36pm.

A proverbial catch 22, if only we had more like you, remember the force is around you in everything we touch, you must master it or it will become the master of you.....PEACE

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Submitted by Git Real on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 12:46pm.

Git Real considering our president a mistake (not that the VP daughter dumping her baby daddy would not have been entertaining). I wonder what Mr. "I'm not too smart on economics would have solved in his first 50 days.

I could really give a flying flip about Sarah's bizarre family issues. I'd say they fit right in with todays prevailing family characterization that resides on both sides of the political fence.

And dude...just because Palin ain't the answer doesn't mean your big government socialist worldview is either.

Enjoy the next economic upward cycle that is hopefully going to take place real soon. Get out of debt and stash some wealth dude because the groundwork is being established for some very violent and extreme downturns for our future thanks to Bush's push toward socialistic government rule and takeovers of power coupled with Obama's tremendous rush to quash free market and entrepreneurial opportunities. But WTF is discussing it anymore. I'm prepared to go down your road. There are those of us who are smart enough to thrive well in tough conditions. Pity the other poor b........

Now your boy is talking about taxing health care benefits. What's up with that? Yeah.... tell me again how I should hold out for YOUR hope.


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Submitted by diva on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 1:40pm.

It is the catch phrase that is most prominent, and, in theory, the idea that you most want to put forth. Now, Git, in November we had two choices: McCain or Obama. We, as a nation, made a huge mistake in your opinion.

So, I ask you, my good sir: What does your crystal ball tell you that Mr. tax health care expenses and buy mortgages McCain would have done that would show us in a stronger position in his second month as our president?

And, side note here, why aren't you guys saying that The four straight days of gains on the stock market are directly due to our President? You've blamed him for the slump. Git, do you truly believe that there is a hard wire from 1600 Penn to Wall Street's SNP 500? I just want my free-thinking, idea generating conservatives back. Instead, I have guys saying our country is dead, shelves will be bare, and our government will destroy capitalism. And they are saying this while calling Obama a fear monger! Are you kidding me? Beam me up Scotty!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 11:06am.

You can lump Darth in with the conservatives and the independents, but he's as much a part of them as he is with your own party, he's not a right or left wingnut, he's just a wingnut. When you admit that Jesse and Al are the spokespeople for your party I'll admit that Rush is my spokesperson even though I guarantee you that you have listened to this man more then I ever have. The conservatives here are doing the same thing to your guy that you Libs did to the conservatives guy, but, oh my, it's different when it happens to your guy. I've always laughed about how when the party in control does something it's wrong, but when the leadership changes suddenly what was wrong is now perfectly alright just because it's your (so to speak) party, this goes on both ways, it's the way of our nation, and I don't see it changing.It's kinda of like when the beaver always threw out that black thing about crime and that was wrong, I thought it was wrong and I told him it was wrong, but when the other goof mouthed the same crap about the whites, that was ok with you and David's mom, it either right all the time, or wrong all the time, except to you and mom and that's the way y'all act about Obama. Same playing field, same rules, I guess you'll just have to live with it. As JeffC told me earlier, as long as it's your guy sitting in the chair, he has to take the blame, it was true with Bush, and it's true with Obama.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by diva on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 2:01pm.

crafted the original "batty republicans" post. You aren't one. You are one of the last bastions of reasoned communication. I'll tell you straight out, I never supported the "impeach Bush" folks, and I can't communicate with the gutter argument that we have a socialist/communist/Marxist/Arab/Muslim/non-citizen president. It's a STUPID argument; plain and simple. I ain't sinking to those depths. As for two of your other points:

When Jesse Jackson was caught open mic criticizing then Senator Obama, Jackson came to Obama tail between legs apologizing. Remember? Because we know the difference between a camera hog and an elected official who's duty is to the people, you don't see democrats bowing to entertainers.

Go back as far as you can, and you will never read any of my multiple personalities praising Jesse or Al. You will find my criticism of them over their decisions and words, but no praise. Go looking.

Finally, an example to show you what I'm talking about with the race issue:

Look at all of the responses to this story.

This is a serious issue that could effect any of our kids who use the internet. Do you see a single comment from any bloggers, black or white, criticizing the culture or race of this pedophile? No. Should you? NO!!! But only three people even cared enough to comment. Is this so insignificant? Is this less of a threat to our kids than a house party they would never be at in the first place?

Hutch, why in the world do ants come out of the wood work to blame black movies, videos, and rap music for crime if the crime has a black face, yet they turn quite apathetic to the root causes of crimes that don't? That frustrates the guano out of me. I just don't get it. No matter how many people are killed by a non-black, none of these folks offer opinions on what in the killer's background may have lead to the crime. They are just concerned about convincing everyone to fear my son. Anyway, I'm way off of the soap box. I'm going to let the "fred" lying a@@ garvin cancer spread as this place turns into a NewsMax trash dump. In the long run, it helps my party politically, on a national level. But it sure kills the flow of ideas here.

Still respect you immensely! Hopefully you can kick start the idea generator. Can't be any more complex than thermal expansion, evaporation, and condensation. That's the hard stuff.

Cheers, brother.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 3:21pm.

I'm with you on this issue. As an artist, I have to voice against censorship of any kind. Those who wish to censor music, radio, books, etc. are not patriotic, they are communist.

I no more believe that rap music is to blame for crime committed by black youth than I would blame Blue Oyster Cult for teenage suicide (Don't fear the reaper). There's a laundry list of 'white' music with non-virtuous subject matter: AC/DC - Dirty deeds done dirt cheap, Rob Zombie - Dragula, Buck Cherry - Crazy B*tch, etc....

Even when Charles Manson and his zombies committed their atrocious crimes, were the Beatles to blame? No. How many teens listened to Helter Skelter and did NOT kill people? In fact, another more recent situation, was the influence of Marilyn Manson on the boys that shot up Columbine. Each incident involves people that were pretty nuts to begin with, and really had nothing to do with the music itself.

This could bring up another topic for discussion. Does art imitate life or does life imitate art?

And to answer my mother: No, when I have drawn nude models in figure drawing - it's not porn.

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Submitted by diva on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 2:38am.

Did you say "DRAWN NUDE MODELS"?

aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Smiling

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Submitted by dawn69 on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 6:24am.

Smiling Yes, nude models. I used to blush when the models would drop their robes, but after a while you just learn to see the figure differently. Next time we have a coffee meeting, I'll be sure to bring my portfolio.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 2:15pm.

I agree about the ants, what I don't understand is why it's alright if a person of color says it on here, yet wrong when an ant says it. You and Dm practically cheered when the black ant said it, why is it ok one way but not another?

On another note, FCHS golf tournament is on 15 May, you got a pilot team you can bring, it supports our band, Yardman's in, Hell, bring a democrat team, don't matter to me.

Cheers my brother.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by diva on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 2:45am.

If I ever gave the impression that I supported an attack on whites via a white perp as opposed to supporting the argument that black crimes are scrutinized here on these blogs much more than all other crimes, I was wrong and apologize. That is one of my many points of the cancer that seems to be spreading in the fringe of conservatism.

Eating their young and turning on their own is the other problem. This is getting UGLY, man!

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 11:04am.

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers,” wrote the historian of the elite, Carroll Quigley, in his book Tragedy and Hope, Bill Clinton's favorite book. “Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.”

This excerpt from "Tragedy and Hope" is exactly what has happened in Washington. The "two" parties are one, with no signifigant differences. They both have the same foreign, domestic, and economic policies. The so-called liberals just work faster than the so-called conservatives.

The media keeps pushing left against right, blinding the viewing public to keep us fighting amongst ourselves so they(the DC elite) can keep going to the bank.

Take the red pill!!! Wake from your slumber, and fight the good fight!!!

In Liberty,


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Submitted by hutch866 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 11:09am.

In addition to the little aluminum hat you wear, maybe you should use the foil on your walls and windows, the rays seem to be getting past your defenses. Use the force Luke.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 1:20pm.

by those who cannot formulate a logical argument against the evidence presented.

The truth is scary, so you call me crazy, but which is more crazy: seeing the truth, and recognizing it, or seeing the truth, and ignoring it?

In Liberty,


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Submitted by hutch866 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 1:41pm.

No insult, just trying to help, dig your hole, stock it, live in it, I'll stay up top with reality. BTW, a few months ago you mentioned all the empty shelves at Wal-mart, I still haven't seen them, just where do you shop?

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 7:48pm.

before the Great Depression hit bottom. So, don't worry, you'll soon be standing in line at the FEMA camp begging Lord Obama for a crust of bread.

Seriously I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I really hope none of this happens, but if action isn't soon taken to stop these criminals in charge, nothing will stop it.

In Liberty,


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