That would mean my father in law wouldn't be able to visit me, I'll let you in on his dirty little secret, he did lead a gang that numbered in the hundreds, this gang even got together and bred more gang members, there were sometimes 3 or more generations from one family in the gang at one time. Now myself being the law abiding person I am managed to stay outside the gang, but my wife and daughter are still....GASP.... members. Now as Paul Harvey used to say the rest of the story, he was a Presbyterian minister in Jonesboro for over 25 years and this is the type person you would bar from our great county? You are a jerk Mr. Ed, you kind of remind me of the tail end of that white horse from the series of the same name, you and that horses' butt both spew the same product.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Anyone disagreeing with this can go to hell, you are wrong.

To quote Huckleberry Finn: "All right then, I'll go to hell."

It's not easy being the carbonunit

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You hit the nail on the head, the gun is an equal opportunity, and is designed for one thing and one thing only... To kill, to much of our young people today are dying for nothing, this is the ultimate shame, for if we do not stand together and muster this disgrace to our society, then we should all be bannished to a place where there is no shortage of heat.. The gun is colorblind and does not discriminate, until people realize that it is not for show and tell time, and that life is not a game, or video, and that a gun does not earn you respect we can expect more of the same.....BLESS

Yeah, the shooter is the guy with the gun but the shootee may be a person of interest!

As soon as they get a call id ing the shooter, and his 20, they will go swamp his area and arrest them.

They didn't even see a party 0f "hundreds~" Must have looked like a carnival was located there!

We as a community cannot depend on protection in terms of ordinances or county law. Clayton County parents couldn't raise their children and neither could the schools. They decided to come here. Don't tell me you don't see Clayton tags everywhere and know that your neighborhood is next for crime. Who committed these robberies? i.e. Zaxby's, Food Depot, Ingles, Wal-Mart,Pet-smart.I know people get their feelings hurt and I am sorry, but the only person who has anything to worry about is the Clayton County Hoodlum who tries to rob me at my home. I will shoot you with accuracy and prevent you from a second chance. If I could create a law, it would be that all persons convicted of a felony inside our county. who reside outside the county, would be subject to $300 interference fee after they serve time.They must stay out until paid or mandatory Jail.

Im glad you feel safe in your mentioned areas, for these citys have struggled to take back their streets.. Through community involvement and the introduction of specialty law enforcement units embeded in the community... I:E COBRA, RED DOG, NITEHAWKS, These are hard hitting Gang Busting Units, that are garrisioning these communitys 24/7 working with the residents who are not afriad to (SNITCH) on the hustlers and creeps who terrorize the neighborhood, proactive units, unlike the reactive units we have here in our county. We need these units now as we speak to muster this madness that has become bestowed upon us partly because of our neighbors to the north are saying we have had enough and taking the initiative, to stand up and work with law enforcement to send the thugs packing... Just like in this instance, someone knows who the shooter is, how could they not with such a large crowd.. But because a lot of young wanna be gangstas live by the no snitch creed, this person feels safe and remains at large looking for the next mark.. Pathetic.... Get involved people if the sign at the front of your community says neighborhood watch, it means you have to do something, when you see something that looks out of place....Stranger walking down the street... Car keep riding back and forth down your road... GEE YOGI did you ever think that if if does not look right then it probably is not... Call the Police or Sheriff and let them know what is going on, they will be glad to check it out... Do nothing and reap what you sow... Its the only way we are going to preserve our way of life is to get involved, start snitching so to say, you do not owe the hoods anything, once they realize that people are watching they will move on down the line to the next community on the list....PEACE

Guess what oh know nothing, that section of Fayette is no more Fayetteville then it is Tyrone or PTC. I have a customer that lives in that neighborhood and his mailing address is Fairburn. Get your facts straight next time.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Get yourself a carry permit, and by a nice holster and strap that piece to your hip, and display it everywhere you go... Then as you are in line at the convience store, folks up to no good may start to go elsewhere, if not at least you will have a good conversation starter.......PEACE

It is always the race card being brought up. Here's some advice; look at the crime STATISTICS for the past 8 years then look at the crime statistics before 2000. The numbers speak for themselves. Forget color, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS they speak ONLY truth, then use your brain and think about what the REAL problem is.

The REAL problem is human nature as a whole. Yes, there is a problem with our black youth & the "thug" culture. I'm not denying that. However, there is also a problem with our white youth as well. Where do you think these kids learn to be this way? Our society teaches them to do so & shows them it's perfectly alright. It's time we all come together & do something about it instead of placing blame on each other. I'm not making excuses for any particular side, white or black (I'm neither black nor white, so it makes no difference to me). I just find it very heart breaking that people are so quick to put judgement on a particular race instead of the individual responsible.

than Compton, California.

One day though, I'm going to sellout and with the $100 I get for the house I'm going to live on or by the beach in a trailer.
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Were once like Forest Park, Riverdale, Morrow.

Guess what happened.

and near LAX many houses now have iron bars shielding doors and windows. My old high school now has a security fence that surrounds it. There are now gangs and gang violence. The local paper is filled with news stories about shootings, drugs and you name it. Blogs out there read the same as the threads here however, the difference is Latinos are portrayed as thugs and gangsters.
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Your 'old' neighborhood is MILES west of Compton!! In fact, the 'thug culture' in Compton is considered Latino. (Blacks in LA don't have an 'identifiable' neighborhood anymore - except for Ladera Heights and some areas near Crenshaw. The 'middle class' in the LA area has left the former 'ethnic' neighborhoods of the '60's. Our perception of a 'race' of people appears to be based on the economics of the 'ethnic' community. Central Avenue - which was definitely 'black' in the 40's through the ‘70s, now resembles Tiajuana. After the lift of 'restrictive covenants' in purchasing real estate - Blacks live where their paycheck allows them to maintain a home. Many California Blacks have moved south. . . and enjoy safe communities, southern hospitality and 'peace'. There is a large contingent of Blacks from California in Fayette County - and they have made a sizeable investment in their property here. The person who explained what happened in Clayton County was validated by our research before we invested in Fayette. We (our family) will protest any expansion of development of apartments, section 8, etc.
in Fayetteville. That action is what causes decline in property values regardless of the skin color of the occupants of the property. We are encouraged by the actions of law-enforcement in this county and their recognition of the 'drug' problem that we witnessed when we first arrived in 2003. (We stayed in Peachtree City while our house was being built - and saw too many open transactions of drug dealing that the persons in the Avenues and the Pavilion seemed oblivious to.) We were not surprised to hear that drug dealing was also being observed on the golf cart paths.) My 'old' neighborhood in LA, by the actions of the neighborhood association, became a 'gated community' with private security. (Venice/Crenshaw area) I raised my sons in the Pasadena/Altadena area because of the 'gang' problem - which is now inescapable near any urban city. The institution of Schools of Choice within the public school system gave persons in 'good' neighborhoods within the inner city an opportunity to keep their child in the public school system at least through middle school. LA is so large - that the high schools encompass many neighborhoods - good and bad. In LA - just as in Fayetteville - good neighborhoods are integrated. Parents in my development are active and involved; schools are above average; and students learn and succeed. With the election of Obama – and the worlds exposure to men and women of all colors in position of American leadership – maybe we can move away from stereotyping based on color in our country.

My last house in Hawthorne was in an integrated community. Everyone looked out for one another. That was 22 years ago. It's still a nice area today but I see more and more homeowners installing security bars.

As for the increase in the Latino population, that has caused some friction within establish Black communities. Inglewood High School, for example, has had its share of problems. I just wish it wasn't so.

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Addressing this friction was part of my 'job' in the 60's - after the LA riots of 65. It appears that those who benefit from causing distrust and fear remain active throughout the world. My mother-in-law, when moving here, was very fearful of living in a home without 'bars'. She is relaxing now in Fayette County - and has learned that neighbors are actually neighborly and helpful. If those of us who are experiencing a positive environment in Fayette County - and discuss that more than what we fear may happen - we may realize that we can control our living environment by acting positively with one another.

how bad I wished that were true...
However good thoughts never stopped a Rapist, Murderer or other Criminal.. It is just like this Administration thinking they can go "TALK" to Dispots and Dictators.. and get them to just change their mind about us.. Read US..
You have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..
GUN CONTROL

I agree - talk is cheap. If someone breaks into my home or threatens my loved ones, I'll let my Ruger do the "talking" and ask questions later.

Maybe ol' barry can get the dictators of the terrorist countries to warm up to him by giving them the complete Barry Manilow collection.
Hey, look how much Gordon Brown liked the DVD's (which won't work in dvd players in Great Britain) that barry gave him!

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

The MM won't cover it, however this is being covered in England.. To disrespect a Stauch Ali was amaturish at best a Snub at worst..
We get a PRICELESS Pen/Pencil set from the sister ship of the Resolute and give them a DVD set.. OMG.
The First Lady?? gives them a model of Marine One she gets designer clothes for her children.. I know we are in an Economic mess but.. I guess I didn't know just how bad it was..
No Press Conference, did not fly the flag, and sent the bust of Churchall home.. I mean I know Michelle hates England she called them a pivot point for Slavery.. but get over it already.

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

GUN CONTROL Link

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country. The way that Barry "The Liar" Obama and his wife treated Gordon Brown is absolutely inexcusable.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

What is true is that diplomacy, non-violent action has saved lives! I am trained to use a gun - but that is not my first recourse for protecting myself from criminals. My neighbors look out for one another - and notify us when they are going to be away from home. Parents monitor their children at the bus stop. We use our security alarm system daily. We are aware of our surroundings when arriving or leaving home. We are conscious of cars behind us once we enter our development. We use a hands free phone when driving - so that we can make a report without being a hazard on the road. I hope we institute a neighborhood watch program - and involve all of the residents in all communities in being good, watchful neighbors. No one thinks that talking to criminals or dictators alone solves problems. Being prepared and strong before talking and/or taking action has proven successful since biblical times. Hope is nothing unless you are prepared for the worst and the best - right?

reggiealex... you are missing or failing to acknowledge a fact... the fact is that Country Lake is a predominantly black subdivision. The fact is that this shooting/killing took place at a black household, by a black killer and it also just so happens that the victim was black as well. So please get off your soapbox about 'if someone this or something that', etc. In this case, all someones were black and the neighborhood where it took place is predominantly black. Deal with it.. this case does not involve any others. It just so happens that I live very near Country Lake and have since the very early 70s. The past few years there has been absolutely nothing positive happening with this area. Whether you like or accept the true facts or not, the decline started with the masses of blacks moving into the area. If you have doubts about that, then you are wearing blinders.

I live very near Country Lake

We were told that those who were considered 'white' who could not afford to move into Country Lakes, may take it out on the predominantly black residents by the real estate agent - so we moved south. I guess they were right. They removed the 'blinders' from our eyes.

There doesn't seem to be an easy answer.

Anyone who brings up the problem of increased crime in Fayette County is called racist. We were called racist when we moved to Fayette County to get away from the problems of clayton/fulton/dekalb counties.

We have one group of people who want to move further out to get away from the urban blight and increase in crime. We have another group of people who want to leave a trail of destruction in every nice community they touch.

You know it's funny how much racist talk is in these comments. Crazy thing is that when someone white does something no one mentions race--and you can't say whites don't commit violent crimes. I live in Country Lakes and from what I know this is the first violent crime i've heard of and country lakes has been here for a long time and has been a great community and still is. This happens and all of a sudden i'm wearing blinders because just because my neighbors are black i'm supposed to think they are violent or be afraid of them.

Let me tell you something every race black brown white and whatever has violent crimes that happen.
whether you believe it or not there are whites who commit crimes just like their are blacks.

I don't think if you bring up crime on the rise you are a racist and I'm not blind to the fact that there are blacks who commit crime.
But some of the school shootings i've read about in the past weren't black kids--and some people lost their lives there too.

All I'm saying is don't think that just because someone looks a certain way means they are up to no good and just because they look another way means they are good people.
I think it's bigger than color. We need to protect our community against any one who means harm to it. That anyone can have a white face or a black face...I'm tired of hearing that this person got shot cause he was black at a black party and fought with a black person. He got shot because there was a stupid person with a gun.

Now this same situation could have happened to a white person by a white person. True story I was held at gun point once by a kid that couldn't have been older than 16 and he was a white kid. And to be honest i wouldn't have suspected him in a million years...he was an average looking guy to me...nothing about him raised my guard and it was broad daylight in Fayette about 7 years ago.
So now i know that crime comes in many packages and wrappers and really you never know.

So to those in Fayette you like Fayette can we get past race and come together as a community...white, black and otherwise and just maintain a great place to live---IS THAT REALLY TOO MUCH TO ASK.

Many have made it quite clear that they are anti-crime - and not anti-blacks, Asians, Hispanics. While visiting Paris, the 'gangs' were 'white', and black. You didn't hear persons saying that 'whites' were ruining their cities. CRIME and young people out of control were targeted. . not an ethnic group. When contributors to discussions insist of lumping all criminals into one ethnic group - then those contributors are considered 'racist'. Solutions are found not in getting rid of an ethnic group - or 'running'. Solutions are found in neighbors getting together, identifying the problem in their community, and what they can do to cooperate with law enforcement to eliminate the problem! Fayette County is at a point where they can maintain their above average environment. I hope we don't allow the naysayers and segregationists to impede positive progress.

You will stand and fight, we have zips in the wire, expend all remaining inbound on my pod......Apacolypse now.....

I think that quote comes from the movie "Platoon". Because the next line is (I think) "It has been a h%^$ of a war, Charlie 6 out"

You are correct, thanks....BLESS

Country Lake is predominantly black, but I can tell you this, the family involved are good people. Teenagers having party made a serious mistake of putting invites on internet. The older people involved with the shooting were not known by anyone there(girlfriend of dead boy said so herself). Why was he there then? There are many honor students that live in this neighborhood and I look past color, unlike most of the people making comments. My daughter was invited to party but didn't attend. There were other white people at the party. I love this area of N. Fayette and know that it is just as safe as any other area. Crime is happening all over! I can tell you also, that I do not have blinders either. I deal with these kids on a daily basis and love and care very much for them. They are more polite than some of the white kids I have dealt with. It doesn't matter on race at all. I do know that the community needs to be involved and be observant, but crime will happen wherever we go. I have noticed in the news how some even more serious activities take place in the rural and country parts of town. It just doesn't matter where you go! The grass is not greener on the other side! I don't guess you ever made mistakes growing up? I know I did, but learned from them. Let's stop judging and try to stop future occurrences from happening! May God be with all of you! Prayer is powerful! Maybe more people should try it.

The citizens have had enough, how about forming a proactive unit that will embed itself in the community, and get to know folks one on one, its the only way to muster this nonsense... I know resources are thin in this time of crisis, but the thugs and criminals are getting more brazen by the day, when is the last time and what is required to get the community to be more closely proactive with your dept, through the formation of neighborhood watch. An is there a active crimestoppers or gangbusters number that will connect to Fayette County and not Atlanta, that people who want to remain anynomous can call to report what they see.. Any input would be greatly appreciated...BLESS

Congratualtions you win the big prize, if only we had more neighbors like you.. Who see things as they are and do not take things for face value, we have to ask ourselves people in this time of crisis, are we really that different after all... PEACE

I used to live in Riverdale in the 80's and it was great. Our neighbors were great and the town was great. Now it is a disaster and what looked like a pretty neighborhood looks like a ghetto. Clayton county is ruining a once nice community. Don't ruin Fayette like you did Clayton. Quit making excuses for this. It is a black and white issue. Go to criminal searches.com and just look at clayton county communities and compare them to Fayette. Then wait 10 years and the two will be identical because the people who can move will and Fayette will be da hood.

Jackson30. I wholeheartedly disagree. First no one is making excuses at all. No one should have died that night PERIOD...No excuse. I don't care what color he was he should not have died just going to a neighborhood party and the persons involved should suffer to the full extent of the law because they took a life and that is regardless of their color.
Now Riverdale and many parts of Clayton were once nice communities and many parts still are. There are some bad people in a lot of areas but don't blame the people...you should blame the developers. Whenever you over populate an area there is crime. Once upon a time in Riverdale there were trees and every corner didn't have a house or a store or an apartment building.
One thing I can say about Fayette is that the people here care and that is shown by how we treat our community. You don't see tons of apartments or row houses being built in Fayette like the developers were able to doing in Clayton by greasing the right hands.
I'm not sure where you live but I have been either in Fayette or near Fayette for a long time and people care. So before you pass the judgment look at the people in the area.. most people are good people and if we care about our community we will go to the meetings and vote on the things that matter to the community. That's one thing that wasn't done in Clayton...They were run over by major development and there was no balance...no more trees just houses and stores and that my friend brings on a lot of things both good and bad.

Works for me, Reggie. I appreciate you saying it.

I'm a mixed-married Berkeley grad Obama supporter born between the MLK and RFK assassinations in Cali who notices that every poster to this forum that decries using race ends up making race-based arguments within the same post.

That being said, I congratulate you for making the distinction that white parties have crashers too and that white kids bought 50 Cent CDs. Now let's all do as you suggest and stop sorting by color.

(puke)

I love the comments "it could have just as easily been a white party" where someone was killed. So true, but again the facts are the crime stats in our community show that crimes have been on the rise for over 8 years and there is only ONE difference in population in that same time period. The crime statistics are a matter of public record; take some time to check them out.

Also, there is a HUGE difference in a racist and a bigot and I recommend that all of you people who think they are the same need to take some time to look at the definition as well. Most comments I see at this site are usually presented by bigoted attitudes not racist.
My comment and reflection on this issue is if parents, no matter thier color raised their children rather than relying on video games, movies and (c)rap music to raise them, our society would be healthier and safer.

This tragedy happened because of the "gangster" kifestyle many if not most of these kids are raised in today. Allowing a party to be thrown is one thing but any parent with any sense of proper duty would never have allowed it to grow to such a large size, especially since the claim is most of the kids were not invited. Lastly don't forget the police did not show up because a shooting had occured; they showed up because the kids at the party were disturbing the peace and being rowdy!

The OTHER people in the neighborhood were extremely upset at this party being carried on as it was. Where were the parents????? Take some responsibility and quit making excuses!

I agree..it disgusts me that people here are blaming this crime on a basis of racial ethnicity. First off, no one here knows exactly what happen, nor does anyone where know who the victims or shooter(s) are. Why is it that human nature causes people to blame others when details to situations are unknown? This is due to a result of short-sightedness and the lack of education among so many Americans. America is a great country because it has a habit of moving forward and prospering through past lessons. People are who they are because of their backgrounds and where they are from - not from the color of their skin. Someone was killed and the suspect is still at large. It amazes me how us "Americans" just worsen the situation by fighting rather then help mitigating the nature of this tragedy.

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Welcome to the Citizen blogs. Sadly, the "soft whitetrash underbelly" of the blogs become visible every time there is a shooting, particularly if one of the parties involved is a minority.

There is a small but very vocal contingent here who enjoy posturing and preening in situations such as these, and they play out fairly predictably: they'll posture for more guns (for "self protection") and against perceived thuggish behavior, which in turn will bring in plenty of disgusted first time posters (such as yourself), which will in turn make our little internet tough guys more belligerent. Then one group or the other will accuse the other of racism, which will then upset the other group. Arguments will become heated, CAPS LOCK WILL BE USED, words you'd never say in front of your mother will be uttered, and then Cal Beverly, his successor or assigns will come in here and press the "Ban Forever" button.

Then they'll lie in wait, until the next shooting....

In this situation you meant to say that CAPS BUST WILL BE USED....PEACE..

In this situation you meant to say that CAPS BUST WILL BE USED....PEACE..

Never feed a troll.

I'm sure you both remember this.
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Yeah I remember it but whatever you do don't say anything about a couple kissing who got married! (a paid advertisement to further hog-tie the sucker.)

You're still smarting after that slap eh?
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What slap are you talking about?
You are weird!

Perhaps we are all not "right in the head". Some more so than others.
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Looks like $nit will be retired just like $age was, it was funny hearing Bonk whine though.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Doggone it, that's the UK.

They're so civilized, they give tickets for notty thoughts.

Behold:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Social_Behaviour_Order

Just thought I'd mention the difference.

Its unbelievable to me and hopefully to others, that you would somehow blame the music, and make this a platform for your racial hatred and generalizations. Somebody died and all you can do is stereotype and make funny jokes like you are watching a Boyz in Da Hood movie. Somebody died, and others were injured, have some sensitivity. Im not black and I'm offended. I guess once a cracker always a cracker. Hope you enjoyed NASCAR this weekend!

Thanks for the racist hate directed at white people. It's cool. I know that it is considered to be "ok" in "politically correct" America to hate white people.

Don't you just hate it when stereotypes and reality blend?

My point skyspy was that if a black person in this forum started calling white folks crackers all the white ppl would be up in arms, but because I am white I don't know how I can be a racist of my own race??? I was making a point of calling MYSTERYMAN a cracker to see if he liked his own medicine? I guess you just don't understand the point, and you also feel it's ok for somebody to say some things like this and the posse was disbursed... kinda hard to run though with your pants hanging down around your knees and ya gotta use one hand to hold em up, so you can break camp... because those comments aren't directed at your whiteness. So if you can't see blatant racism and stereotypes in those comments, then you indeed (might be a redneck) and are definitely a racist.

He should have said "insensitive knucklehead."

I know, we are focused on the wrong thing. The bottom line is the thugs/criminals of all races are making life miserable for the rest of us.

Have a safe trip. I have made some progress on the addition/remodle project since you were here.

Take care.

Good night

the fact is that there is a thug culture in young black america. you can't fix a problem until you admit it exists. Instead of crying racism demand that the problem be confronted and fixed by both the black and white cultures. It isn't easy to expose your ugly side but if black america doesn't wake up do something they will sef destruct. If they ask for help with this problem I will be first in line to do what I can.

Just a question? What color were the kids that brought guns to Woodstock H.S.? What race was it that person killed in Centennial (PTC) a few years ago? Just a thought to ponder.

When someone jokes "nothing like a little gun play to liven up a party." in a situation where a life ended and innocent people were injured, we dare not be offended? You are so incredibly full of BS that you reflexively have to defend the most insensitive of comments if they are aimed at blacks. And that is quite sad.... for you.

Yes there is a thug culture - but the parents of this host/hostess at this party are not part of it! This was an invitation party that got out of hand because the address was put out to the WORLD through technology. There are organizations and individuals that are working 24/7 to combat the problem of the thug culture. If the 'white' community has the answer on how they handle their 'thugs' - and yes there are 'white' thugs - then please share! Unfortunately the 'non-thugs' don't make headlines as do the 'thugs'. Just a few media types take the time to report the activities of the non-thugs in the black or brown communities. If the media didn't give so much 'negative glamour' to the 'thugs', the 'rockers', the 'bikers', the students who bring guns to school - maybe our respective communities would be safer. This was truly a frightening event - just as frightening as target shooters or out of control 'party-goers' on or near the golf cart paths. The Citizen is covering this story fairly. Not all of young black America are thugs! The invited guests were/are not thugs. Prayers for those who were injured. If a party attended by 'whites' had been advertised by technology - and free beer was offered and guns were in the hands of a few - would the story have been different? You're in fantasyland if your answer is yes.

There was a party just like this 2yrs ago PTC. It got a the same "coverage".

The solution for every race is to stop making excuses for bad behavior. If we as a society would stop making excuses for the the thug kids and punished them for this kind of behavior; I think some of the "glam" would be taken away from the criminal way of life. First of all we need to punish this kind of behavior to the maximum penalty/sentence the law will allow. As long as these kind of kids think someone will whine and snivel on their behalf they will keep up their thug behavior.

Sadly this story is typical of Atlanta life. This is the same story I have watched on the news for 19yrs. in Atlanta.

This story is sooo old. After 19yrs of this kind of crap in Atlanta and other ghetto cities like Detroit, Chicago, and the Watts district of LA, I'm cynical at best. If their parents don't care about them why should the rest of us?

Notice to Autrey's: Load up on the "Judge" also double 00 buckshot, I need some extra protection from this kind of crap and the crap kids who dish it out.

Sky - do some independent research. Life in Black Atlanta is not all 'thug culture'. Not all 'blacks' live in the ghetto in Atlanta. Not all 'black' children are on the street committing crime. In our country - and in countries throughout the world, there are too many children of all races who are not being parented correctly or cherished as the future of that country. In the past nine years, the high school graduation rate in Atlanta has improved - through the dedicated work of the public school administrators and teachers. (And cooperation of concerned parents) The achievement level, as measured on the state tests, has improved so as to be competitive with the national scores. The American Association of School Administrators honored Dr. Beverly Hall as Superintendent of the Year. (She was selected as Georgia's Superintendent of the Year). What she and her staff achieved is an inspiration to public school administrators throughout our country. She had the cooperation of the business community, non-profits, and civic organizations to raise the level of expectation for students who are at risk in our inner cities. . and they succeeded by holding these students to high standards! It can be done!!

I understand your comments. The media in California did not portray similar incidents that happened in 'white' areas until a group demanded equal coverage - and equal protection in all communities. It is interesting that not all 'white' high schools or their students are portrayed as 'evil' when a few students plan to and carryout the murder of students and teachers. What about the students who attend Columbine and Whitewater? Are they all predisposed to violent murder? The 'thug' culture is big business in the entertainment world - and they would not be financially successful if only 'blacks' bought their merchandise.

The solution for every race is to stop making excuses for bad behavior. If we as a society would stop making excuses for the the thug kids and punished them for this kind of behavior; I think some of the "glam" would be taken away from the criminal way of life.

I AGREE!!

Parents nowadays feel they have to be their child's "friend" rather than being a parent. I didn't bother me at all to tell my son when he started doing the "baggy" look, that it wasn't the route to go. I explained why and then I finally just made the decision for him. After all, he is the child and I am the parent, end of story! We as parents are fighting a losing battle with the music and video media that continues to glamorize the thug-life as a culture worthy of mimicking. I don't make excuses for gangsta-wannabes...I pity them.

Funny thing is mysteryman and skyspy think IMHO is some sort of rap lingo or T-Pain /Flo Rida song.

I have been acused of being a racist, biggot and who knows what else. What was my crime? I'm white and I pointed out a problem that is destroying black america. I mentioned it because in this case it was blacks. I have never said whites don't commit crimes and have never brought ills upon our society. Its okay for me to point out problems when crimes are committed by whites but I am crucified for talking about a thug culture that does exsist. The thing that got me upset was the reaction by nepo and others. I'm sure you can give me me a dfferent perspective on white america but I can't on black america. Until we start listening to each other and get rid of our thin skins nothing will change for the better but only for the worse.

The Attorney General was criticized for saying that we as a nation are cowards because of our inability to discuss 'race'. An attempt was made here - and it is a difficult subject to discuss when you can't see the persons face or body language. Thin skin abounds with us all when negative statements are made that are general by persons whom you don't know and they don't know you. I think 'blacks' may have a better perspective on 'white' America because of the media and national periodicals. 'Some Whites' seem to think that reading 'black' periodicals is a no-no. But it might be an unobtrusive way of 'listening' to the hopes, activities, and dreams of the 'black' community. Contrary to popular belief, these periodicals are not 'anti- white'.

You would be pleased to know that my husband listens to Al Sharpton. That's right! I get such a kick out of my husband driving around in his pick up truck with all the Auburn decals listening to Sharpton. My beer drinking, Hank Williams loving, beer bellied, red neck husband (bless his soul) listening to Sharpton. I'm proud of him - he says he listens because one has to know others point of view and be open minded.

I had to smile on that one. What a picture. I listen to Rush for the same reason. Sometimes it's hard for me to listen to either one!!

While I have a few ... hundred ... rounds of 00 buck, I much prefer The Centurion -- a .53 cal slug followed by six #1 buck pellets followed by a plastic wad.

Behold:

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/images/Centurianmultidefence.jpg

I'll test drive both. I need 2 more guns then every room in the house will be covered.

It's a shame it has to be this way.

I've been incredibly busy. Hope you are well. I hear I'm missing some good Georgia weather. Figures.

Sky, I will deliver to you $50 if you find some legitimate organized support of the thug behavior that ended a life and affected many others. No one likes this behavior; black, white, or whatever. No one is going to make excuses for these murderers. There are wackos out there of all colors; shooting pastors, kidnapping kids, and spraying parties. I don't look at these as race issues. I don't blame everyone that shares pigment with the perps. It is so much deeper than that. I do know that it's sickening to think anyone would pull out a gun for anything other than self defense. I hope that many , many people saw the perps, and have the spine to come forward and end their thuggish days.... permanently!

It is good to hear from you. You are missing some great weather. Convertible weather and bird garden weather. Give a shout out when you get back in town.

The last time gang members were brought to trial in Fayette County the local NAACP was crying and protesting. I hope they don't do that again. This kind of behavior needs to be stomped out. I hope the shooter gets put in the same cell with the worthless garbage pilot who beat his wife. They deserve each other, and could punish each other better than we could.

If we would make this "lifestyle" a living hell for the criminals I think they would see the wisdom in choosing a different career.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for your $50.00 from diva.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

That's the only way we'll know you aren't lying again.

Coward.