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Well i agree with you, by saying that humans are not responsible what is he trying to prove?
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i think this is not true, and yes you are right nothing like this has ever happened in past.

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All scientists are wrong but these 2? Come on now. If you can't accept the truth than you're out of your minds. take a look around the world at what's going on. nothing like this has ever happened in our history. glaciers melting. global temperatures rising. co2 rising. there's no connection there at all? i don't know i think it's pretty self explanitory
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Scientists in the U.K. have reported evidence that further refutes one theory of global climate change.

In the heated debate over global warming, there is an opposing idea, called the cosmic ray theory, which contends that climate change is simply caused by cosmic rays coming from the sun.

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Get a clue and do your own research. It isn't that hard. Look for a historical graph of CO2 and global temperatures. Do a typical statistical test to see if it is significant as a corrleation. Don't you know that you ad spamming and smoke blowing is releasing more than your fair share of CO2? You should be ashamed

Yeah i agree with you ...

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but the flatulence continues... what is up with that?

global-warming-facts "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."- Barack Obama"

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The sun burped and it snowed in New York this week.

Hummm....wonder if Algore is paying any attention the the fact that carbon offsets really don't have much of an impact on the Sun and the radiant heat we enjoy from it?

Maybe he can sell some "Sunspot Offset Credits" - Sounds like a nobel prize in the making to me!

Just in case you haven't figured it out, change or changes you can believe in is a decision or are decisions about policy in which you have no vote. Is that really what you want Mr. & Mrs. America?

The warming of the 1990s was not unique. The warming of the 1920-45 period is well documented.
"Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean"
http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/2008/03/18/getting-warm-seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean/

How easily people fall into the disinfo traps set by the Warmists.
They have been trying to deny we are now back in a cooling period since there has been no warming since the El Nino of 1998.

It’s the Sun, Stupid!

By Dr. Willie Soon

The theory that climate change is chiefly caused by solar influences “is no longer tenable,” says US National Academy of Sciences president Ralph Cicerone. Carbon dioxide, he argues, is the key driver of recent climate change. I beg to differ. The amount and distribution of solar energy that we receive varies as the Earth revolves around the Sun and also in response to changes in the Sun’s activity. Scientists have now been studying solar influences on climate for 5000 years.

Chinese imperial astronomers kept detailed sunspot records. They noticed that more sunspots meant warmer weather on Earth. In 1801, the celebrated astronomer William Herschel noticed that when there were few spots, the price of wheat soared - because, he surmised, less “light and heat” from the Sun resulted in reduced harvests."
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of the globalist propaganda machine, just like millions of others. Two RADICAL scientists? When's the last time you heard of a RADICAL scientist? Frankenstein? He was fictional. Einstein? Its more shocking to me that YOU believe a POLITICIAN when he talks about scientific data. Al Gore is a slimy schill for the UN who wants to TAX carbon emissions globally. That means YOU and I are going to pay for it.

You believe what you are told by the TV networks, and do no independent research on your own. It's not your fault. They have it set up that way: to control you.

My point is: you aren't being told what you aren't supposed to know by the corporate MSM. Your opinions, and points of view are not your own. You have been manipulated by marketing, and political propaganda: YOU ARE PROGRAMMED!!!

The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will stop defending the agendas of the elitest pigs who are enslaving us.

In Liberty,

DarthDubious

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National Geographic - Global Warming

Basing a decision (opinion) on less than all of the facts - is worse than ignorance.

Global warming has occurred in the past, before mankind.

The only facts we know of for sure is that it is cyclical.

A theory is not a fact.

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of the elitest propaganda scam. MSM articles will always support the political agenda of TAXING carbon emissions. Corporate media and publications are PROPAGANDA. They are ALL owned by the same people that own the banks and the governments! Wake up! All they want is you to be a starving, homeless, slave.

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DarthDubious

Did you even read the entire 'elitist propaganda'? You are the 'slave' when you don't realize that YOU are the government - and you, through an ideology that supported non-regulation, etc., allowed the bankers, corrupt politicians and CEO's to enslave you and yours! We're taking what belongs to us back - and if we don't hold ALL office holders accountable this time - then we get what we deserve.

Al Gore is a politician who somehow managed to win a Nobel Peace Prize. Ivar Giaever is a Nobel Laureate in Physics. When it comes to global warming one has said, “If we allow this to happen, it would be deeply and unforgivably immoral. It would condemn coming generations to a catastrophically diminished future.” The other asserted, “I am a skeptic. … Global warming has become a new religion.”

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who said what here, although one of these guys is much closer to being a rocket scientist while the other merely pretends to be one. More importantly, Ivar Giaever is only one of 650 dissenting scientists who are taking their case to the United Nations global warming conference in Poznan, Poland.

The Senate Minority Report, to be released later today,

“has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.”

The growing skepticism is only one of many reasons why the United States shouldn’t agree to any global carbon reduction treaty. The fact that cutting greenhouse gas emissions would be extremely costly and would insignificantly affect global temperatures are pretty convincing reasons, too. The Congressional Budget Office reports that a mere 15 percent cut in emissions would increase the annual average household’s energy costs by $1,300. And Obama wants to cut emissions by 80 percent? Yikes.

Also frightening is the stranglehold global warming alarmists and environmental activists have on the political message. George Mason economist Walter Williams says,

“The average individual American has little or no clout with Congress and can be safely ignored. But it’s a different story with groups such as Environmental Defense Fund, Sierra Club and The Nature Conservancy. When they speak, Congress listens. Unlike the average American, they are well organized, loaded with cash and well positioned to be a disobedient congressman’s worse nightmare. Their political and economic success has been a near disaster for our nation.”

Some of the quotes released from the skeptic scientists in the Senate Minority Report are very telling. Former NASA official, atmospheric scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson declared,

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.”

Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires emphasized,

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.”

2008 has turned out to be a year of global cooling and much of the doomsday talk has dissolved. It’s vitally important to understand the science before we embark on a plan that would mean doomsday for our economy. Heritage energy expert Ben Lieberman sums it perfectly,

“[F]ear is two-edged sword. It can be used to whip up support for action over the near term, but it is hard to sustain for long, especially if it is not well supported by fact. Eventually it could lead to a backlash. Indeed, the global-warming doomsayers may well prove to be their own worst enemy, with their credibility taking a tumble along with the prospects for cap-and-trade legislation.”

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and realize that I didn't support ANYTHING that the Federal government has done to us. The banker takeover of this country went down in 1913, with the Federal Reserve Act! Passed at the same time, the Federal Income Tax Act! Ya think that's just a coincidence? The tax pays the interest on the money the government now has to borrow from the FED! And that's ALL it pays for!

Listen sweetheart, you sound just like someone who has NO idea what's really going on. You have the ring of one who still buys into the false left-right paradigm that the Dems and Reps are two parties: THEY AREN'T! We just have a new set of criminals in DC. All former assistants of Clinton cabinet, BTW.

They both promote big government and work to strip us of our personal liberty, which is what this nation was founded upon. Until you realize that truth, they have you right where they want you. Be afraid of a government that tries to regulate your guns away. Once they take them they will do what they want, and no one can stop them.

Google video: watch the Great Global Warming Swindle, then we can talk about the REAL agenda of "climate change."

In Liberty,

DarthDubious

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nothing like this has ever happened in our history. glaciers melting. global temperatures rising. co2 rising. there's no connection there at all?

As I've suggested before, it is odd that what people believe about a matter of fact assertion, such as the claim that global warming is anthropogenic, seems determined by their prior ideological and political positions.

I'm quite open to the possibility, despite my revulsion over what took place this last November 4th. Clearly, we find ourselves in a cycle of warming--something that, as I recall, was originally denied altogether by ideologues to the right.

But what is not yet obvious to me is the claim that human activity is responsible for what we observe. What is obvious to me is that an appeal to the course of recorded human history as a baseline is woefully inadequate for marking the change. The global climate has undergone numerous cycles and epicycles in the course of natural history. Missoula, Montana--a town where the majority of the citizens believe that global warming is caused by human activity--is situated on what has, over and over, been the bed of Lake Missoula--a body of water that has collected due to ice dams to the south, which have formed and subsequently melted due to fluctuations in the climate.

For some, given the cataclysmic effects of volcanism or the "wobble" of a rotating planet, the suggestion that the byproduct of human activity are the culprit seems like the suggestion that rising sea levels are due to the occasional Icelander who relieves himself on a northern Atlantic shore.

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Anthropogenic is a word I have never used but I understand it to mean that something is caused by humans.

If that be the case then I do know that there are many things in the air that are caused by humans (anthropogenic) but I can not say for sure that the ice melts occuring abnormally for our lifetime is one of them.

I am speaking of pollution where Atlanta is certainly one of the worst with the combustion engine exhausts (maybe ten million of them).
A high percentage of doctor and hospital visits is caused by one kind of pollution or another caused by industry not cleaning up their system.

If I am not mistaken, this is the reason that certain groups started to fight for clean air---pollution.
Since conservatives didn't want to burden industry with what it took to exhaust clean air, the fought it hard and fast. Idiots such as Limbaugh pushed this night and day at about $50,000 a pop.

The whole thing has evolved (another dirty word) now to climate change due to just certain things fouling our upper shield. All of which is believed caused anthropogenically.

You say not possible if I read you correctly and you probably also say that it happens every 10,000 years or so---pollution or no---just by nature and tilting and atomic blasts on the sun!

So, then why waste corporations money doing anything about any of it.

Is that your religious philosophy?

tax EXEMPT ones I might add, that are involved in the push for global taxation on carbon emissions, not to mention the UN, IMF, and World Bank, who will all profit from the scam.

The heads of which are all good Bohemian Club buddies I'm sure.

In Liberty,

DarthDubious

You may be right about the non-profits fighting emissions, I don't know. Of course it is logical that for-profit companies would rather make more profit than reduce emissions!

But the story has been changed from emissions to warming you know?

Easier to call warming BS, than emissions. We see the emissions!

Bohemian Club, huh?

"If you can't accept the truth than you're out of your minds. take a look around the world at what's going on. nothing like this has ever happened in our history."

By our history do you mean "HUMAN" history.. you know that pesky little pothole in the road of the history of this Earth..
I could literally have a field day with your little rant.. Scientist that disagree are "RADICALS" "Can't accept the truth your out of your minds" .. Whos truth? Gores? the now few Scientist that agree with him? or the over 600+ that disagree?
In case you have not noticed.. and I know you have not.. Temps have not risen in 10 years.. in fact they have receded faster then they rose... but I guess facts are a little to tough to swallow for you.. so go ahead buy your Toyota P and feel good...

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"TonyF" is not spelled like that. Don't make me point-out my quote to you.

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

You with tonyferrintion ot something like that... My fingers where flying. and got into shorthand on the name... Man made Global Warming "Burns" me up...

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For every 1000 stiffs, it would only take a small batallion of OCTOMOMS fresh out the fertility clinic to replenish the stiffs lost, due to the non belivers, thank goodness Georgia legislature introduced a bill today to limit the number of embryos that can be placed in an individual at one time, thank goodness. While i love children and everyone should be entitled to a couple of kids, this world can only feed so many souls, and besides that my check can only support so many kids....PEACE