..what about Afghanistan, occupied by Japan..

Can you cite this as factual?
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NewYork Post Story

Something tells me that the author of this story - Ralph Peters - is not too keen on the President elect.
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Go Israel! God's chosen people.

Let's remember hamas threw the first "stone". Since 1948 Israel has taken crap off of these terrorists. Let's exterminate this problem once and for all.

Evacuate the area of all civilians who want to leave, for if they stay they are crazy anyway, then turn it into a glass lined salad bowl for the next 300 years, then you will have your cease fire.

to where?
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Thanks for the help. It's good to know that the Israelis go to this extent to lessen the impact on the innocent. They, like our guys that do the same, rarely get credit for it.

"Assuming Israel's offensive is successful and they destroy Hamas what is the end game? Occupation of Gaza? It has never been successful in the past; what's different this time?"

I sincerely hope that the Israeli Army blows the entire "Palestinian" population in the Gaza strip into next Friday.
They need to level the whole place. Just keep pounding, and pounding, and pounding them until there is nothing left.

Palestinians don't want peace - they want to see dead Israelis.

Only you would champion genocide as the Israeli "final solution" against the Palestinians.

You would have been a great Nazi Fred.

What do libs do when conservatives say something that they disagree with? They resort to using the "n" word.

Jeff - you're nothing but a typical, bleeding heart, bed-wetting lib.

Israel wants to live in peace. The "Palestinians" want the Israel annihilated. Leave it to you and your ilk to defend these scumbag terrorists.

Honestly counterfeit "fred"... Nothing. You offer no fresh ideas outside of "level the place." Wait. You put it more eloquently:

"They need to level the whole place. Just keep pounding, and pounding, and pounding them until there is nothing left."

So, "fred?" In modern history, what political party would YOU say most closely implemented the kill them all policy?

I'm curious what "you" really think; or IF you think.

ps. I'll congratulate Franken for you.

Kevin "Hack" King

We've missed you Boudreaux! Are you still boring holes in the sky?

I've had to change my handle from NOTA 08, since the election is over. Now I'm just waiting for the Clintons...er...I mean the Puppet Elect Obama to take office. It should make for some good sparks here on the Citizen.

We should do the group coffee thing again to catch up with all the regulars...sans Irish Whiskey of course.

Glad to see you signing on again.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

Glad I was able to bring you out of that miserable little hole that you have been hiding in! I have sincerely missed you, my bruhthah.

Well, now to answer your question, I guess that would have to be in WWII, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That ended the war reeeaaal quick now, didn't it? Many lives were saved as a result.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Harry Truman (a democrat) authorized those attacks.

Before you congratulate smalley for stealing the Minnesota election (look! we found more absentee ballots in William Jefferson's freezer!), you might want to wait for Coleman to drag the whole charade through the courts. Frankly, I could care less if Franken makes Senator - if that's what the people want, then that's what they will get.

Now lets see what happens in Illinois. Do you think Harry "the weazel" Reid will be successful in shredding the constitution?

What far away place are you at tonight?
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Just finished a coffee with white chocolate Irish whiskey in our friend's honor, thought of him, and came to the blogs.... and what did I find???? I've got to lower my expectations.

Cheers, brother

Kevin "Hack" King

Here's wishing you and your family a happy and prosperous New Year.

A quote that I think applies appropriately to the blogging situation is: "Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed".

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

You promote the extermination of the Palestinians then whine when I call you on it? You come on here advocating the murder of one and a half million people and now I'm the bad guy calling names when I suggest that you may not have considered all of the possible ramifications when you considered all the facts and through whatever process came to the conclusion that genocide was the correct solution?

“...level the whole place. Just keep pounding, and pounding, and pounding them until there is nothing left. ...”

Doesn't matter to you that there are about 1.47 million civilians there? Just kill them all and let God sort it out, right?

My “Nazi” reference was not a generic liberal response Fred. It was a calculated response to your call for mass annihilation of the Palestinians. You'd'a made a good Nazi.

"Well, now to answer your question, I guess that would have to be in WWII, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That ended the war reeeaaal quick now, didn't it? Many lives were saved as a result.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Harry Truman (a democrat) authorized those attacks. "

Now, Fred. I appreciate the rare chance to look under your hood and hear thoughts that are actually yours.

How does a two-bomb, two-city nuclear attack equate to "not stopping until there is nothing left?" We stopped didn't we? So our OBJECTIVE was NOT destruction of all Japanese people or their government. So, any other guesses as to what political entity had destruction of a race of people as their objective? Two more guesses and you should have it.
Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

C'mon Hack, I thought you were better than that!

When we dropped the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the intention was to destroy the cities and populations. That's no different than what I was advocating.

I never called for the destruction of an entire race of people - you really shouldn't twist words. It's not very nice.

You're now claiming that you, “...never called for the destruction of an entire race of people - you really shouldn't twist words.”

Do you remember writing, “I sincerely hope that the Israeli Army blows the entire "Palestinian" population in the Gaza strip into next Friday. They need to level the whole place. Just keep pounding, and pounding, and pounding them until there is nothing left” ?

It's right up in your post above. Was that another Fred Garvin?

Where did I call for the destruction of an entire race of people? Huh? Quote it Jeff, c'mon quote it.

If you are now arguing that the words you write have no meaning then it would be hard for me to disagree.

I have nothing to be embarassed about.

You, however are pathetic for attempting to twist my words. Freud had something to say about people that have to belittle others in order to feel better about themselves. It's really pathetic.

You were advocating genocide against the Palestinian people just a few posts above.

Jeff gave you a direct quote, weasel, and you're attempting to deny your own words.

Good to see you back among those whose ideas and views are as divergent as snowflakes.
If I may, until the pursuit of mideast peace looks seriously at how the factions can coexist vice at how each can individually exist, the problem will fester from this generation to the next. As you know, post WWII countries were held together by autocrats such as Tito in Yugoslavia, Pahlavi in Iran, Kim in N Korea, and so on. These folks held the mentality of "eliminating" any and all opposition by brute force.(Not far from what has been espoused here).
I would like to think that we, as a country and as a people, have grown and matured since then, surely we are more educated and that with access to information at the world's fingertips, we are certainly better informed. That said, the brute force methodology can be but a temporary solution and I believe that some smart guy or gal out there may just have the answer. I can only hope it does not entail the likes of $10M a day that bought us the last peace efforts.

Let me see if I have this correct:

Israel wants the terror people in Gaza to stop shooting bottle bombs at their land. Now also they want to wipe out the terror people in Gaza before they leave. They gave them a day or two to leave but they didn't.

The terror people want Israel to leave Palestine (Israel) and go back wherever they came from to Israel. Nothing else will do.

Isn't there a bunch of Palestinians in Jordan? Isn't one of the Queens a Palestinian? Maybe the Palestinians could go there? Is it big enough to hold them?
Was that supposed to be their "homeland?" If not where?

Did the British leave this mess in the 40s? Somewhat like we will leave Iraq, I suppose!

Are the Palestinians Arabs? I know the Jews are mostly not. Is that the problem?

Maybe Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Egypt, and Indonesia, woulds take them?

I mean take the Palestinians!

I guess I'm still confused about this stuff! Would Turkey help out any? What are the Greeks? It is close by.

We already have a bunch of Jews and Arabs and Palestinians here! Might we take one or two of the groups to solve the problem?

Or, is that why we help the Jews all of the time? To keep them there?

Somebody said Christ was would be back into Israel and that is why the Jews exist there! That makes little sense since Christ was just a Rabbi to them.

What is in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kashmir? Would they help? I guess India has too make sick-ems or whatever to help. China would have no interest, would they? They are Confusedicians aren't they?

I know, It just dawned on me! Australian outback. Very similar ground to middle east and desolate.

Let's do it!

if you had been looking in a mirror when you wrote that statement, would the image that was there have made a nice dog growl and scared little children?

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

Perhaps to sway world opinion to their plight.
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While Gaza is being bombarded by American-made F-16’s, here’s some food for thought: During the German occupation of Greece, the occupiers posted the following rules: If any German soldier was found murdered, 10 Greeks would immediately be rounded up at random and executed; if there was a repetition, the number would go up to 100. This draconian measure was not put into effect until the very end of the occupation in 1944, well after the Italian collapse of 1943. Communist agitators would go into what they thought were conservative neighborhoods—in other words, well-off precincts—spot a drunken German soldier, kill him, and then beat a hasty retreat. The next day innocent people would pay the piper. At times, the German high command rescinded the order, as it became obvious what was going on.

Switch to Gaza 64 years later. Since 2005 Israel, which is still punishing the original inhabitants of the lands it rules or occupies, has killed 150 Palestinians for each Israeli killed these last eight years. Just think of it. Seventeen Israeli lives have been expunged by the murder of 2550 Palestinian ones. That’s doing much better than the Nazis. And Elliot Abrams, son-in-law of neocon propaganda minister Norman Podhoretz, who’s ensconced in an office deep in the bowels of the White House, calls Hamas “terrorists” and urges even more severe punishments. In 2006, Israeli artillery fired a dawn barrage of shells, supposedly against militants in the Gazan village of Beit Hanoun. The guns missed. Seventeen members of a Palestinian family, the Athamnehs, died in their pajamas, cut to pieces by fragmenting 6-inch howitzer shells. The Israelis did not even issue an apology.

So where is Obama on this one? I’ll tell you where—trying to stay out of the way of AIPAC and the Israel lobby that dictates American foreign policy in the Middle East.

I’ve never been a friend of Islam; however, it’s always been perfectly clear to me that the Israelis are the ones sowing terror and the Palestinians are the ones besieged. The American people have been so brainwashed, they have it the other way round.

Poor snookums just found out it may be called warfare, but it isn't fair.
By your logic.. If your neighbor shoots at you and your family everyday and no one will stop him, no amount of pleading or giving him your stuff..will make him stop.. he just keeps shooting at you everytime he sees you or your kids (in your own yard)... then when you take a baseball bat or gun and stop him yourself.. then you are the terrorist..
Must make since in your world.

Obama is making a dramatic statement by not saying anything at this time. He will have plenty to say 17 days from now, and I believe that keeping quiet until what you say has some weight behind it is a shrewd move, and I believe that his silence is intended to keep a bad situation from getting worse or even more confused.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

I'm curious as well to see how the President elect deals with this after he is sworn in. Will he stick to his campaign promises or do something else? I also wonder, how much influence will Bill have over Hillary or will this be a team event? Bill and Hillary's team.
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Anyone who cares about the well being of Israel will do the equivalent of "friends don't let friends drive drunk" on an international scale. Israel is being really stupid and somehow some sense needs to be injected into their policies. We will see how Hillary does, but I bet that Bill will never drive the bus.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

I guess Hillary did not do a good job rolling up that blunt, that Billy Boy did not get to enjoy, gee did it burn his hand, is that why he did not get to inhale. Come on people, you do not put on a condom unless you are going to _______!!! The silence is just a precursor. Scarface had it figured out back in the day when he declared "This country is one giant P----, Just waiting to get F-----. Enjoy the silence for its the calm before the storm...GOD HELP US ALL....

Warsaw Ghetto of WWII?
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For over a year Israel has sealed the borders of the West Bank and Gaza strip, not allowing anyone to work, earn money or get food deliveries in.

The 1.4 million people inside Gaza are literally being starved to death by Israel.

The only way food has gotten in is through smuggling and not nearly enough can be smuggled in.

That's what is really taking place in the cesspool known as Israel. Yet the U.S. media isn't bothering to tell the American people about this. If the American people knew that Israel was intentionally starving over 1.4 million people to death, it would change the way the American people react.

Egypt also controls its border with Gaza; well, at least it tries too. As for the "cesspool" comment; that's a tad harsh.
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Could it be that someone was trying to enjoy their meal at the local restaruant, and then a family walked in with their family pet in tow...Just a thought, wars have been fought over less..peace