Why I'm Proudly voting for the Democrat this time around!

Sat, 10/18/2008 - 10:10am
By: Richard Hobbs

Why I am voting Democrat!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody! It's Patriotic!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. All profits are evil and should be confiscated for Government Redistribution.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that MORE Government regulations and higher taxes on Business will stop Business from exporting their jobs to Countries with LESS Government regulations and lower taxes.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe terrorists should be allowed to have trials in American courts. And be able to subpoena top secret documents, soldiers, government officials, etc. to cross examine for their defense. They should have ACLU lawyers who can help intimidate Americans who serve on the juries!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that will be a better system.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe 9/11 was an inside job to con the American people to go to war for oil.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe social security is solvent and that there is a social security lock box and I don't believe social security is a Ponzi scheme.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe Gay Marriage should be the law of the land and will probably produce better children.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe English should not be the official language of the United States. I don't mind pushing one for English when I use the phone.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe partial birth abortion is okay but water boarding a terrorist is disgusting.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is a good thing. It allows for great relations with foreign terrorists.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe MOST AMERICANS are bitter and cling to their guns and religion. Let's rid our country of guns and religion!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe illegal aliens deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe groups like ACORN who register felons, drug addicts, wino's, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count more.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe hard core criminal murders and rapists deserve life and that the innocent unborn deserve death. It's a choice I can live with.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he blew-up the levies in the ninth ward of New Orleans.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe our soldiers are AIR RAIDING villages and killing innocent people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe sex in the Oval Office with an intern is a private matter and that everybody lies under oath about sex.

I'm votin Demokrat becuse I wus edumkated at a publick sckrool. I lik da NEA!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that any one who is not partaking in one of the many wonderful government programs obviously has too much money and should pay higher taxes.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq the terrorists will be happy and now think of us as good people.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as it does not offend people. Can't we all just get along?

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits are wrong. I believe higher taxes on oil companies will produce lower prices at the pump.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology.

And finally, I'm voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said "GODDAMN AMERICA and OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST". Hey let's make a comfortable nest for those chickens!

Why are you voting Democrat?

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I wish I had authored this piece, but alas, I only plagerized it from another who likely did the same. Nonetheless, its right on.

Either way, in November, we either elect a Marxist to the highest office in the world, or people are going to die. Carville said it, we all know it. People are going to die if Barack loses this election.

Again, which is worse? Barack as President, or living in a Country which would elect someone like Barack as President? I say the latter.

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 9:05pm.

"For those who thought a Democratic congress would end the war in Iraq, think again: their new budget proposes supplemental funds totaling about $150 billion in 2008 and $50 billion in 2009 for Iraq. This is in addition to the ordinary Department of Defense budget of more than $500 billion, which the Democrats propose increasing each year just like the Republicans."

- Congressman Ron Paul M.D.

Vote Third Party, not for Jarack McBama!!!

In Liberty,

DarthDubious


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Submitted by darrylwd on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 9:53am.

I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but he is dead on with this.

The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.


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Submitted by DarthDubious on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 7:15pm.

among a good many people are waking up to this fact. Do your homework and find out what's really going on. The mainstream media has the country blinded to all but Dem and Rep, and the debates should include ALL parties putting forth a candidate. There are two other big political parties: Constitution, and Libertarian, why are they not allowed to debate?

Just a thought. Check out a vid called Zeitgeist @ Google, also America: Freedom to Fascism. They will wake you up to the real.

In Liberty,

DarthDubious


Submitted by UrKidding on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 12:21am.

Really is this the best we have? Daily scandals involving elected officials (Dem and Rep) in every state office or branch of the gov. Shady dealings with individuals or corporations. Who knows what we don't know.

Exec taking big pay outs when their companies are going under?

I curious, do I tell my kids get ahead by doing what ever is necessary or is there a moral compass they should follow (joke). If they follow the "rules" depending on how you bend them is that really success? What is success? Boat loads of money in the bank?

Submitted by mgarlow on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:21pm.

Mr. Hobbs:
You really are one sick grumpy republican. You typify the zealot rage of a badly abused punching bag. If you call yourself an advocate of the legal profession, then you seem to lack the display of one who missed out on learning the true character of America. One knows not how to classify you; a sad comedian, or an example of human behaviour gone wrong. You have our sympathies. Seek medical help while you can still dial a phone.

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Submitted by sandm96 on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 6:03pm.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without knowing it happened."
Norma M. Thomas, (1884-1968)
U.S. Socialist Party Leader
from a campaign speech 1948


Submitted by aztec1 on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 7:57am.

Those of you raising children, when you teach them the evil of using illegal drugs and how they can destroy you, when your kids answer (and they will).."But President Obama said that he smoked weed and did some blow when he was younger, and he is now the President".... then what are you going to say...??????

...Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" is very revealing...

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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 10:41am.

Hey aztec1... fill in the blank name below... who are voters referring to? (Hint: the guy currently lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.)

"Perhaps even more importantly, only 11 percent of all voters polled -- and only 9 percent of Republicans -- feel that proof of cocaine use in his 20s should disqualify ____________ from serving as president. A resounding 84 percent of voters and 87 percent of Republican voters felt just the opposite -- that they did not feel proof of cocaine use in his 20s should disqualify _____________."

LINK


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Submitted by darrylwd on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 9:58am.

... of just how far we have fallen. If these numbers are true. But I never believe anything written or said until I know it already to be true, or I research it to validate it's truth.

The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.


Submitted by bleeding heart on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 10:53am.

uncurious george admittedly used cocaine

Submitted by tikigod on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:48am.

Bush has a problem with cocaine too. So, Obama wont be the first. Besides, why lie to your kids about drugs? Be honest with them, don't follow the DARE lie program. It only make kids disbelieve the legit stuff when they find out a big portion of the program was lie.

Marijuana is much less an evil drug than alcohol. I know that's not what the government said... but its true. World would be a lot better place if you could turn the alcoholics into pot heads. Their wives, their kids, their livers, other drivers, etc etc etc would be much better off.

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Submitted by DragNet on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 10:44pm.

Hobbes, you sound bitter, man. These rantings are typical of a narrow-minded bigot, they don't go well wit your reputation.

In any case, Barack Obama will win, it's a done deal, so you may want to start thinking about moving overseas, though I'm finding it hard to think of a country a person of your mentality could fit. Wasilla is in Alaska (still the U.S.); Transilvania was ultra-conservative (your way) a century ago...but no more.

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Making you think twice......


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Submitted by darrylwd on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 10:05am.

Hobbs gives to us the true examples of what being a Democrat represents, based upon their established supported policies at every government level, and all you do is attack him with mindless personal attacks. You just can't battle the facts can you. Do some real work, some due-diligence, and go at each one of the statements listed above.

Man... what do I have to do to inspire the Left to become smarter... or are they all just too lazy to learn the facts of their own chosen party.

The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 10:34am.

"Again, which is worse? Barack as President, or living in a Country which would elect someone like Barack as President? I say the latter."

No, Richard. Those who are opposed to a presidential candidate because of their own ignorance, racism and/or pure hate, is the worst attribute of all. I mourn for our country if people like this, in the linked videos below, are actually in the majority.

Why is it that so many conservative Republican's are just downright ignorant and filled with hate? I spent some time on the internets last night and found way too many videos of how racist and nasty this election has become - truly disturbing.

I'm glad these folks are on your team, Richard. The Republican party has become an embarrassment and even Reagan would be mortified!

Terrorist-Socialist-Baby Killers-Communist-Muslim (y'all are embarassing)

Man with Obama Monkey Doll at Palin Rally

"A black man shouldn't run the country" - Hangs Effigy of Obama

Redneck lady: "Why would we elect an Ay-rab?"

Dem Party Leader's Home Vandalized

Obama Campaign HQ Vandalized

"Osama-Obama, Not American, Not Welcome"

Obama: "Half-Breed, Muslin (sic)"

"Obama-Osama....are they brothers??"

A Kid's T-shirt at School: "Obama...a terrorist's best friend"

"No Parking" for Obama Supporter's

Obama = Osama Road Sign

Black Business Owner's Restaurant Spray Painted with N-word and Swastika's

Teacher Suspended for Racial Slur: "C.H.A.N.G.E. = come help a n***** get elected"

"White Brothers and Sisters..." Hate Mail to Obama Supporter's in GA

Obama "Bucks" Fake Food Stamps Printed with Obama Caricature, Fried Chix and Watermelon pics

FOX Pundit Jokes About Obama Assassination


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Submitted by darrylwd on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 10:08am.

The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.


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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 12:16pm.

"Again, which is worse? Barack as President, or living in a Country which would elect someone like Barack as President? I say the latter."

Delta is ready when you are. Drop us a note every now and then.


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Submitted by JAFO 72 on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 12:24pm.

I like the new avatar. Perhaps, with your last post it should be a picture of the US with a gun to its head.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”


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Submitted by JAFO 72 on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 11:48am.

I don't condone racial bigotry or prejudice, but which presidential candidate wrote in his book "White people's greed runs a world in need"? Which presidential candidate brought up color and ethnicity by stating that he "...doesn't look like any of those other fellas on the dollar bill"? Which presidential candidate said that we would be scared of his first, middle and last name? Which presidential candidate attended, was married in, and was backed by a church with so much animosity for white people? How about the recent attacks on civilians homes, cars and private property of those sporting a McCain/Palin yard sign or bumpersticker. I don't recall Senator McCain ever bringing it up prior to Senator Obama saying these things. Nor, has Govenor Palin. Before you point a finger, you should realize that you have three pointing back at you.

The bottom line? It is the hate filled extremists, such as ACORN, Skin Heads and other "race baiters" that make both parties look bad. Most of us just want this darn thing to be over with.

Keep this in mind. Ignorance can be fixed...stupidity is forever.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 11:11am.

The people who are ignorant and racist are not in the majority. Unless you count the black people voting for Obama just because he is black....


Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 5:47pm.

Unless you count the black people voting for Obama just because he is black....

Aren't many of those! They're coming out to vote for CHANGE! . .and this young Harvard grad who is: tops in his graduating class, raised by middle class parents, raising two daughters after achieving the American dream - looks like he will surround himself with persons who will help us recapture the respect of the world, restore our economy, and make us all proud to be Americans. It's not only 'blacks' that are voting for this young American. After hearing the programs offered by both candidates - the American public is turning out in droves to vote their choice. The color of choice this year is GREEN. Check the polls today.

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 1:43pm.

You are correct about one thing. The color of choice is GREEN. The GREEN in my pocket that Chairman MaO-Bama wants to redistribute to someone Barry has decided deserves it more. More than the person who earned it.

By the way, I personally am already proud as hell to be an American. If you happen to know anyone who isn't, give them the suggestion JeffC loves to throw out. Delta is ready when you are....to take them to the country they will be proud of. And good riddance....


Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 6:31pm.

The wonderful aspect of being an American is having the freedom to disagree with a fellow American. Don't you agree? No one needs to leave meanoldconservatives. There's room here for all of us - with all of our different opinions AND colors. (We all NEED green!)

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:01pm.

Actually, I do agree with you. We are free to disagree with each other. My comments did not address differences of color and/or opinions. I was addressing the ones who are currently "not proud to be Americans".

I believe you put it this way: ...looks like he will surround himself with persons who will help us recapture the respect of the world, restore our economy, and make us all proud to be Americans.

My point was, if someone's not proud to be an American now....maybe somewhere else will give them that pride we all need in our country.


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Submitted by diva on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:22pm.

Perhaps you will have the opportunity to lecture folks on being proud of their country in a week and a half after we, as a country, elect someone they have called:
Terrorist
Marxist
Racist
Socialist
Obumbles
Barry
"liberal douche bag"

You think your allies will be all tingly and swelling with pride, M O C?
Can you possibly see why some of us might not be too proud of rendition, torturing, warrant less wiretapping, and gitmo imprisonment without due process? I love this country, but sometimes I am disappointed in her actions, and desire a change of course.

cheers


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 9:44pm.

In his American high school yearbook. How can that be wrong?

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Submitted by diva on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 3:46am.

So, he called himself "Barry" in the 1970s, so you religiously refer to Senator Obama as such now... makes sense to some, I guess. Now about the six names you ignored........


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:43pm.

It wasn't really a lecture, it was an exchange of ideas. Call it what you will though, matters not to me.

If you think "my allies" are the only ones calling the opposing parties' candidates names, you are showing your true intelligence. It has been a tough campaign on both sides. Your allies have said despicable things about McCain and Palin and you know it. Is that somehow different???

I know one thing. If Barry wins next week, I'll still be proud to be an American. I won't be tingly over his policies, but I'll be swelled with pride at being an American. Wonder why that "lecture" hit you so hard?????

Oh, I just saw your apology to Dawn69. Is this you going all "Marquess of Queensberry" on me????? Really scary stuff....

By the way, did you ever bother to check with Cal on me being your previous nemesis? I didn't think so. It's easier to think you're right.


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Submitted by diva on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 3:44am.

It's easier for you to "pivot" to "I'm not othersidetrax", your signature "liberal douche bag" comments not withstanding, than address how a group of people who call a presidential candidate a "terrorist," "Marxist," "Racist," and "communist" will be all "swelled with pride" at being Americans. After all, like it or don't MOC, your political side of the aisle has, right up to the top of the ticket, questioned the very patriotism of Americans you disagree with. That's why proud Congresswoman Bachmann has done the mea culpa 180, MOC. Whether you care to admit this or not, the republicans among us, right up to the top of the ticket, have earned the nastiness prize in attitude and action this presidential election; right down to the news anchor asking Joe Biden how Barack is not a Marxist. It's as clear as the noses on our faces MOC. Heck, you guys have become so nasty that 40 more people added themselves to the unemployment line rather than read an obscenely false McCain attack add in Indiana.
Call center workers walk off the job in disgust

Let's bring it to a much more personal level, MOC. Me and you; you and I. Let's represent our sides of this argument. You have, on multiple occasions, called us "liberal douche bags." Your words MOC. What is the nastiest thing I have called you MOC? Is there a comparison? I'll help you out with some other conservative* bloggers and I; you will find "bitter," "unintelligent" and the like, and you will also see "male prostitute" accurately assigned to the TV character "Fred Garvin." I haven't found the "liberal douchebag" character though.

And who are the assassination plots coming from? How about the fake "an Obama guy assaulted me and carved a backwards B in my face" stories? you guys have whipped your impressionable base into a frenzy, and now they'll do anything to keep a "Marxist" "terrorist" "communist" from being the president of The USA.

So, again, I ask what you did not answer: How are people who think Barack Obama is either a "Terrorist," "Marxist," or "Communist" going to be proud of their country if he is their president. I think that's an honest question.

Oh, and if you say you aren't otherside, I take you at your word, but I have been lied to by you conservativy bloggers before. Let's take that guy who's "real name" is Fred Garvin LOL! But I don't run to Cal. He gots bigger fish to saute.


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 12:08pm.

That "typical liberal douche bag" thing really hurt your little feelings, didn't it? Too bad. Let's go back and see how that all went down, shall we? Or would you care? Nah, the facts don't really interest you. But, others may care.....Sniffer ended one of his diatribes to me by calling me a "typical conservative wuss". Now, I know you can either choose to ignore being called a name or counter back. I chose to take what he called me, change the party, and then use a different name. It may not have been what everyone would do, but if you call me a name on here, you get called one back. Stick to the argument, I try to do the same. So you see diva, Sniffer called me a name first. Where is your indignation towards him? By the way, good luck finding me using the term more than once. I don't remember doing it again. Again, facts elude you though. Enough on that silly subject.

You awarding the right the "nastiness prize" is shocking. Of course you see it that way through your partisan eyes. I see things differently through mine. By the way, what do you get for winning the "nastiness prize"????

Now to your "burning question".....you can be proud of your country, but not proud of the sitting president. I felt that way when Slick Willie was playing "hide the cigar" in the Oval Office. Your side is there now with "W". In case you don't realize it, this country and the sitting president are connected, yet separate. I have respect for the office, but maybe not the sitting president at any one time. That doesn't change the pride I have for my country.

Finally, I don't want to take things to a "much more personal level" with you diva. You are angry at me. You don't like me. The feelings are mutual. I could care less what conservatives have lied to you before. I have as much responsibilty for that as I do the assasination plot kooks you try to tie to me and my side. I told you the facts about "othersidetrax" and my stance is the same. Believe it or not, I could care less....

Cheers


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Submitted by Main Stream on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 11:50am.

The radical right has a long history of using hate speech to instill fear in their crazy followers....sickening...not much has changed:

LEST WE FORGET!


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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 6:28pm.

“Unless you count the black people voting for Obama just because he is black....”

Now I was pretty sure I knew what racist meant but looked it up anyway and here's what Webster's had:

racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others .

So are we adding to the definition now to mean voting to support a member of your own ethnic group is racist? Were all those Catholics who voted for Kennedy racists? How about the Irish who vote for him. Racist Jews who supported Joe Lieberman? Racists Hispanics supporting Gov. Richardson?

Oh, I get it; it only applies to blacks supporting Obama!

Funny thing about my online dictionary though, it referenced another closely associated word:

bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.


Submitted by jackyldo on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 11:55am.

you hit the nail on the head

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 1:28pm.

Why has this election been made into a race issue then? Who started that? Why have so many from your side hinted and even directly stated that those who oppose Barry are racist because they just can't vote for a black man? Why didn't they say those voters just want to "support a member of their own ethnic group" as you put it? To quote you again...."Oh, I get it; it only applies to blacks supporting Obama!".

Your side put the racist tag out there for this election. My point was and is....black people who vote for Barry because he is black are no less racist than white people who vote for McCain because he is white. It goes both ways.


Submitted by jackyldo on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 12:00pm.

are not the liberal buppy.... It's been the conservative talkers who said Obama was only winning because he was getting 95 % of the black vote and would not win enough votes to beat Hillary in the states that did not have large populations.

I voted for Obama and it has to do with the big picture, the future and need to adress issues the rest of the world has dealt with already
wuality of life issues for ALL Americans.

So we whites voting for Obama are we traitors to our race ?
What about blacks sharing conservative values and voting for McCain ?

Each is entitled to an opinion and neither is right or wrong.

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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 2:35pm.

Won't wash. There is a difference between supporting someone who is black because you yourself might be black and not supporting someone who is black because you think blacks are an inferior race. That's why I gave you the definition of "racist".

You are correct saying, "My point was and is....black people who vote for Barry because he is black are no less racist than white people who vote for McCain because he is white." If that is the reason for their vote then you are right because the argument is a non sequitur in that neither are racist. My point was that you misused the word to imply that blacks who might vote for Obama purely out of racial pride are racists, which they are not. A transparent ploy to assign the negative connotations of the word to a situation in which it does not apply in order to justify the actions of racist, i.e. "It's OK if we're racists because they're racists too."

Having argued with your semantics, let me assure you that I am not implying that you are a racist. I firmly believe that you have made it clear that your argument is with his liberalism and you would oppose him even if he was the snowiest of white or any other color.


Submitted by Citizen_Steve on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:37pm.

Someone who votes because of race is moronic, just as as one who votes based solely on party affiliation. It's sometimes tough to be an idealist when it comes to candidates, but it is incumbent on you as an American to make the tough choice and vote based upon character, whatever the party affiliation.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:54pm.

"Someone who votes because of race is moronic..."

I believe the same can be said for someone who votes based on gender. It has become apparent that the Rovian political scheme of tapping Palin as VP, has backfired, and those Hillary supporters they were banking on have turned a cold female shoulder to the Repub shenanigan's.

Women don't vote for other women just because the candidate is another woman. Live and learn, Karl.


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 5:27pm.

JeffC, here is the deal. Main Stream was spouting off with these comments aimed at Republicans in general:

Those who are opposed to a presidential candidate because of their own ignorance, racism and/or pure hate, is the worst attribute of all. I mourn for our country if people like this, in the linked videos below, are actually in the majority.

Why is it that so many conservative Republican's are just downright ignorant and filled with hate?.....

I'm glad these folks are on your team, Richard. The Republican party has become an embarrassment and even Reagan would be mortified!

I replied back:

Don't worry Stream.....The people who are ignorant and racist are not in the majority. Unless you count the black people voting for Obama just because he is black....

I was never intending to address the "racists" who believe in superiority of either race. That is a whole different group (definition one). I was trying to say that ANYONE who votes for their candidate simply because the race of the candidate is the same as that voter is exhibiting racism. My definition of racism there was the racial prejudice towards one race or the other (definition two). If that prejudice towards one race causes you to vote against them....rather than using political principles and ideas as the litmus test.

It disappoints me that you think I would try a "transparent ploy". HA!!


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 6:41pm.

I meant my "transparent ploy" comments to be applied generically to those who do use the racists equivalencies argument.

But rereading my comments that it is not what I wrote.

Please accept my apology.


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:12pm.

Apology accepted. I look forward to future discussions!


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Submitted by WakeUp on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 3:00pm.

The Merriam Webster online version gives the meaning of RACISM as

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

The definition here

For the record; I acknowledge 100% this was a cut and paste from the Merriam-Webster website (I don't want sniffles getting upset with me).

So, based on number 2, you don't have to think one race is superior to another, only to discriminate based on something. And if this something is race, then there is racism and the person exhibiting racism is a racist.

I just wanted to toss my 2 cents into the mix.


Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 6:36pm.

Those definitions from Webster do clarify the point. The last time I looked, they applied to all 'humans' - not just 'blacks'. Oops - the same for bigot. Thanks for bringing that to our attention!

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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 6:50pm.

I hate to even mention this because if they get the idea it will probably happen but these people are missing out on a great collaborative deal investigating the birth certificate.

Michele Bachmann could do the investigation, Ashley Todd could supply the evidence, Andy Martin could (re)file the lawsuits, Jerome Corsi could write the definitive book, Regent Book could publish it and Hannity, Rush, Ingram, Drudge and Savage could swear it was true and do the publicity.

We're probably talking millions of wingnut dollars here.


Submitted by rmoc on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 12:45pm.

Not a fan of McCain but black or white Obama supports socialist policies. I could not vote for him based on what he represents. If Alan Keyes or Herman Cain were running I would vote for them because I believe in their conservative ideals. Obama represents the liberal elite who do not relate to the average voter. They think anyone who makes more than $60k should help the downtrodden at gun point.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 6:56pm.

Have you read Obama's economic plan? Lower taxes for those making LESS THAN $250,000 a year. Stop Bush tax cuts for those who make MORE THAN $250,000. There are conservative ideals that I also embrace - the current Republican leaders have not practiced these ideals. Honestly, no matter who wins, we the American public must keep a closer eye on our elected officials and their policies towards CEO'S. The trickle down policy just 'ran out'.

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 8:19pm.

Just for the record.....rmoc and MOC (meanoldconservatives) aren't the same person. I might even be afraid to find out what the "r" portion stands for if the "moc" is the same.....


Submitted by boo boo on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 2:01pm.

Our sitting Republican President(Bush) is the Socialist. He was the one that wanted and got the bailout plan...How much more socialist/conservative can you get?

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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 2:51pm.

They used to be social conservatives, now they're conservative socialists.


Submitted by boo boo on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 11:59pm.

Yes sir re I like that. conservative socialists, that just has a good sound to it...

Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:44am.

Got to love that. The only way to win is to scare people into voting for your guy.

Seriously no matter who wins this election our country will survive. We have gone through hard times before. We have survived many wars, the great depression, and many pathetic presidents.

The only real problem is our country survived all of those downturns in a day and age when people took responsibility for their own financial well being. People used to take pride in working for a living and living within their means.

For those of us who want to keep the money we work for, we will just have to obama-proof ourselves. I think I've bought enough property now I should be set for this year anyway. Think positive and obama-proof yourself. The Carville's of the world will always try to sell gloom and doom.

I have to vote Republican this year because we can't all be on welfare.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 11:24am.

Scared all these people yesterday.

Terrified by Carville


Submitted by Bonkers on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 3:26pm.

I have to assume that you think Sarah Moose Palin would make a better President than Obama, in the case of a need be?

Greed is done for, for now! Not crooks however.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 1:52pm.

The GOP is self-destructing before our eyes, fragmenting into its various pieces. Those who previously provided the intellectual underpinnings of the Party are increasingly marginalized while those who think Sarah Palin is the future celebrate.

Many in the Party recognize this of course... those who are being marginalized.

For instance Kathleen Parker, who wrote in the National Review, “Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions require her promotion. I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted. Sarah Palin Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.”

Parker was greeted with over 12,000 e-mails which provoked another column in which she wrote, “Allow me to introduce myself. I am a traitor and an idiot. Also, my mother should have aborted me and left me in a dumpster, but since she didn't, I should "off" myself. Some of my usual readers feel betrayed because I previously have written favorably of Palin. By changing my mind and saying so, I am viewed as a traitor to the Republican Party -- not a "true" conservative. Anyone who dares express an opinion that runs counter to the party line will be silenced. That doesn't sound American to me, but Stalin would approve.”

Peggy Noonan writes in the Wall Street Journal, “I find obnoxious the political game in which if you expressed doubts about the vice presidential nominee, or criticized her, you were treated as if you were knocking the real America—small towns, sound values. "It's time that normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency," Mrs. Palin told talk-show host Hugh Hewitt. This left me trying to imagine Abe Lincoln saying he represents "backwoods types,"

David Frum, from the National Post chimes in, “Ms. Palin's experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall. She has zero foreign policy experience, and no record on national security issues. So this is the future of the Republican party you are looking at: a future in which national security has bumped down the list of priorities behind abortion politics, gender politics, and energy politics. Ms. Palin is a bold pick, and probably a shrewd one. It's not nearly so clear that she is a responsible pick, or a wise one.”

And Matthew Dowd, chief strategist for President George W. Bush’s reelection laments about McCain, “He knows in his gut he put somebody unqualified on the ballot,” Dowd stressed, “and put the country at risk.”

Christopher Buckley, son of William F. Buckley, writes, “Sarah Palin is an embarrassment” and “...eight years of "conservatism" have brought us "a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance."

Buckley, forced by Rick Lowery to resign from the National Review that his father founded, reminisces that his father had said, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.”

Now the kooks have taken over.

David Brooks writes, “Sarah Palin represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices.”

Jim Stillman in the Tampa Bay Politics Examiner traces the demise of the Republican Party writing, “The Conservative movement was perverted by the “southern strategy” which catered to those base emotions we had in the back of our minds, anti-integration, anti-intellectual, all to bring the southern states into the GOP electoral column. And in the past 8 or 10 years, the Conservatives were kidnapped, again, this time by the neoconservatives. And that was the start of the end. Over the past several years, Conservatives in the United States have changed. The present brand of Conservative thought has abandoned principles which were its reason for existence.”

Andrew Bacevich's editor of The American Conservative opines, "For conservatives, Obama represents a sliver of hope. McCain represents none at all. The choice turns out to be an easy one,"

And the kooks as WFB labeled them celebrate.

Patrick Ruffini on the NEXTRight blog writes, “Brooks and Noonan and Buckley and Dreher and Kathleen Parker and David Frum and Heather Mac Donald and Bruce Bartlett and George Will and on and on - note the ideological diversity in the ranks of conservatives who aren't Helping The Team these days - are all just snobs and careerists who quit or cavil or cover their asses when the going gets tough and their "seat at the table" is threatened.”

Ruffini continues, “In what universe do Sarah Palin's gaffes matter? In what universe does Sarah Palin get called unqualified? Now can you understand the frustration? Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham aren't defending the campaign to the hilt because they are McCain people, or even McCain/Palin people. It is because they are Palin people. They believe Palin is the only smart move McCain has made. And events since since Palin faded from the spotlight haven't exactly disproven their point.”

Exactly.

The Chicago SUN-TIMES which hasn't backed a Democrat in its 161-year history endorses Obama”

“Our endorsement for president of the United States goes to Sen. Barack Obama, Chicago's adopted son. He has the unique background, superior intellect, sound judgment and first-rate temperament to lead our nation in difficult times.”

Expressing dismay at McCain:

“He reversed his position on major social issues to curry favor with the Republican base. He pulled silly surprises from a hat, such as "suspending" his campaign. Most egregiously for a man of advanced age who knew how important this decision could be, he chose the unqualified Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice president.”

The Los Angeles Times hasn't endorsed a presidential candidate since 1972, when it backed President Richard M. Nixon's re-election. Nevertheless, this time they are endorsing Obama”

"Palin is the most unqualified vice presidential nominee of a major party in living memory," the Times said. "The decision calls into question just what kind of thinking — if that's the appropriate word — would drive the White House in a McCain presidency."

“The excitement of Obama's early campaign was amplified by that newness. But as the presidential race draws to its conclusion, it is Obama's character and temperament that come to the fore. It is his steadiness. His maturity.”

So now the Party crumbles, led by the factions that are incapable of evaluating issues because their background of information comes only from the intellectualism of Rush or Sean or Laura or Mike Savage. Those who disdain anything published in the main stream press so that they can cling to their right-wing fantasies, unable to distinguish real issues from trivia. Those who celebrate Palin as they future of the GOP.

The right is crumbling and disintegrating faster than we can celebrate its demise.

Good Riddance.


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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:54pm.

Rush reacting to Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama:

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."

As for Powell's statement of concern this morning about the sort of Supreme Court justices a President McCain might appoint, Limbaugh wrote: "I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [general] and secretary of state and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let's hear it for transformational figures."

Go Rush! LOL!


Submitted by alanf33 on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 11:01pm.

AK is about to lose a long time senator due to the disease of so many in power. Palin being selected as the VP nominee has not only been thrust into the national spotlight, she has increased her own stock back home in the tundra (if it could get any higher). If McCain wins (and my wallet certainly hopes that he does), she is in the second chair. If he loses, Palin will be the next senator from the great State of Alaska and her national stock increases. Win-Win for the Gov. By the way, why is is that the Dems keep saying that they are for the middle class, but only lawyers who attend Ivy League schools are 'qualified' to lead, regardless of real world experience?

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 11:11am.

That Palin will be the face of the Republican Party!

"By the way, why is is that the Dems keep saying that they are for the middle class, but only lawyers who attend Ivy League schools are 'qualified' to lead, regardless of real world experience?"

First, you just made that up. Find me any Dem. anywhere that said anything remotely like that. Second, you're saying that Obama wasn't middle class when he was a student at Harvard?


Submitted by justwondering on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 11:44am.

You said it in your editorial published on line in American Thinker. I liked the editorial. It did not even intimate you were a Republican,heavens forbid !!You can deny it all you want and call me a liar, but the inside info in your editorial, i.e. "counting the days"could only come from a person with a close association with Annapolis,like you and like me. There is not an iota of info about "the days" in the U.S. Naval Academy info you posted.I hate to cut and paste the editorial, but I do not know how to do the 'hit the link" thing.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 12:29pm.

I have actually written a couple of letters to American Thinker! Since they are just part of the kook wing of the R. Party they cannot handle dissent and so of course they never published them. Instead of writing them another about Rumsfeld, I sent them an e-mail offering to (why bother if they're not going to use it, right?). They actually responded!!! They didn't think my correspondence would be appropriate for them. Alas. But they were probably right, it would be difficult for them if facts were allowed to intrude into the echo chamber.

You can usually tell about these types of publications. They don't allow blogging or comments. Kinda like WorldNetDaily. In fact, exactly like WorldNetDaily. Great sources if you only talk to people who don't know any better.


Submitted by justwondering on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:55pm.

does allow comments and has blogs and published your editorial because it was comnplimentary of McCain and his leadership education at Annapolis.You may fool some bloggers, but you do not fool me.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:53pm.

They do allow comments now. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

BTW: I think I read that editorial comparing McCain and Obama's education. Seems like I remember it said it would compare McCain at Annapolis to Obama at Columbia for two years (not mentioning his time at Harvard). Seems like I also remember that it ended up with nothing in it about Obama at Columbia.

In any event, I admire McCain's graduating at Annapolis notwithstanding his recent demonstration of leadership skills when he rushed back to Washington to lead almost 30% of the Republicans in Congress to support his Party's President's bailout bill.

He's a good man. I wish he had beat Bush in 2000. It would have saved the whole world a lot of heartache.


Submitted by The Truth Will ... on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 9:31pm.

Rush, Sean, Laura, Mike S, Mike G, Herman C, Greta, O'Reilly, Mike M, Bill B,etc. have the higher ratings pulling in more listeners, I don't think there is any crumbling or disintergrating of their followers. Sarah Palin has generated a powerful buzzzzzzzz!

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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 11:17am.

However, they are extremists who are only preaching to the choir and are steadily narrowing the Republican base. That's like saying McGovern voters would continue to support the Democrats. Devastatingly correct.

As for Palin's buzzzzzzz, again only to the shrinking base. Almost 66% of Americans now recognize that she is totally not qualified. Re-read my post, I only quoted conservative Republicans.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 2:52pm.

Yep, I remember when the Democratic party lost the wheel off of their wagon in '68. Some thought it was their demise as well. Heck, I betcha that our very own "Bonker$" probably remembers when some in the 30's thought that the Republicans were finished.
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Submitted by Bonkers on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 3:29pm.

I'm voting for McCain, is he republican?

No, if I remember correctly, in the 30s we simply thought maybe we wouldn't get another thoughtless person to follow so many!

Republicans used to be logical and honorable.

Submitted by boo boo on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:23am.

The Key Words bonkers are USED TO BE. Logical and honorable that is until Rove, neocons, Rush, Hannity, O'Really, Coulter and their ilk...brought hate and divisiveness into the equation. The moderate Republicans are a fine group, but like I said before many times, they have been invaded by these Hitlerish, scary people that just spew hate. My hope is one day the moderates will rise up again and see these vermin as they actually are.

Submitted by winby1 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 5:25pm.

Could you only imagine the outcry and fallout that if McCain and his family would have been a member of a church for 20 years that weekly preached absolute HATRED for Black Men and America out loud for everyone to hear. I'm wondering if the African American population would have anything to say about that now?? I'm wondering if the bleeding heart Liberals in this country would have anything to say about that now?? I'll tell you that for a FACT his politcal career would have been over long ago but not only by the liberals in this country but ALSO by the conservatives in this country. You see O'Riely, Hannity, Rush, Coulter etc. would not stand for such a racist to run on the Republican ticket as well!! Only White bleeding heart Liberals and African Americans would except such behavior from a candidate for the office of President of the United States of America!!! You see I'm wondering if half the African American population even knows or cares what Obama is running on?? People if you are ONLY voting on the color of skin you are a RACIST!! It works both ways!! Racist is a term that alot of the African American popuation throws around on a regular basis!! I'm wondering who of the African American population have always voted Republican and NOW are voting Socialist?? I'm wondering how many times Powell has voted Socialist?? Powell a Socialist?? WHAT??? GO FIGURE!!!

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:33pm.

Why do you think they belong to a secessionist group? Because they want to pal around with domestic terrorists?

Submitted by winby1 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:47pm.

I have no problem with Powell!! As a matter of fact I have always had nothing but respect for the man and still do. I always felt that he did a great job of keeping Bush straight. If he were running for President I would vote for him in a minute but he is not!! I am very surprised that he is supporting Obama but that is his choice!! Obama is what he is and he knows what he is!! He shouldn't be ashamed of what his ideals are and have been. I'm not ashamed of mine!! Are you ashamed of yours?? Obama saying he didn't know how The Rev Wright felt about the white race and America is a blatant lie and he must be ashamed of who he was and is!!!

Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:12pm.

To use a phrase from B.O. (remember, "typical white woman....or grandmother??). I never was too convinced that he was a conservative. Just a republican in name only. Just another black that is so entralled with the thought of history being made, just someone that thinks that having the first black to hold our highest office is more important than having someone that will truly lead this country.Powell is nothing more than a cheap sell-out.

Submitted by jokerman on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 8:30pm.

Maybe you need to re-read your own post.

Submitted by winby1 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:53pm.

Thats what this is all about not again. An open forum to speak your feelings. As a matter of fact it's long over due. This country will never come together until people are able to speak openly about their feeling without fear of offending others. And not again maybe you need to listen to your own advise!!!

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:44pm.

I voted last week, and it IS nice to have it done. I wish the whole thing were over tomorrow. Unfortunately, it won't stop the hateful blogging...that appears to be endemic to the Citizen.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 6:39pm.

winby1, it would be much more efficient for all of the good ol' conservatives to just admit that Barack Obama is just too black to vote for, and save yourselves a lot of typing.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 5:33am.

Actually Barry isn't black enough, he is half white. Even though he has been able to use the color of his skin to con people into voting for him based on race. YOU are the one who started the discussion on race. USArmy and Meanold and wnby started by talking about the issues.

Is pulling the race card all you dems have?

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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 12:11pm.

Next month we're going to have about 120 million votes!


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 5:55am.

Me, I, she, her, him. he, it, them those, that, which who!

Just read the words of some of our highschoolers and their parents!

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 5:07am.

This little posting sure stirred things up, just goes to show that you never can tell which one will "get it going". Well, if the shoes fit, put the wig on too. My comment was directed to, and I quote myself here, "good ol' conservatives". I also find the inquiries about my "color" amusing. I am not one to keep people in suspense unnecessarily: carbonunit52 is a pale nigga, a scarred up, sun-baked mule, not pretty, and too old to die young.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 10:27am.

So you have the best of both worlds then? You get to keep it real and ease your guilty white demons. Good for you. Barry will be grateful and your taxes will go down. I mean he told us so, right????

Good thing a conservative didn't use that term you did. There would be a firestorm up in herr.....


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 10:31pm.

You got us....we're busted. Since you figured out we're all voting strictly by race, you can feel free to tell me what you libs are up to. You have to be one of these two:

1) a good ol' black person simply voting for Chairman MaO-Bama because finally a candidate ain't white and you gotta keep it real

or

2) a good ol' white liberal suffering from massive amounts of white guilt thinking this vote might cleanse your soul of all past wrongs of the white race

I mean since you exposed us for what we really are, you can come clean too. I promise I won't tell anyone which one you are. But, if you're too afraid to answer truthfully, I understand. We can't help what we are, can we?? Everyone can talk freely about this now, thanks to you.....


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:19pm.

We don't give a hoot about his color just his EXTREME LIBERAL views. We see the man in whole. We recognize that a man's character is shaped by the people he has surrounded himself with ALL HIS ADULT LIFE. It matters to us. You can blog your ignorant crap all you want, Carbonunit52, but that is all it is...crap!

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:39pm.

Your comments tonight are even more vicious and hateful than is usual for you. I wish that you could allow a little levity and cheerfulness into your style.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 9:51pm.

My comments were to make a point about B.O. using "typical white woman" to label his grandmother, the woman that gave him nothing but love and care in his younger days. Can you explain to me why my comments are "vicious" and "hateful" but his are not? What might be considered hateful is for you to decide that we, as conservatives, are not voting for B.O. because we disagree with his socialistic views, but are doing so because he is "too black" for us. You are the vicious and ugly one.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:29pm.

I am taking out "Army" because you defile it. First you state that your dislike of Obama has nothing to do with race, and moments later you state of Colin Powell, a highly respected and decorated Army veteran, "Just another black ...." Yeah, obviously you aren't focused on race. Did you watch what Powell had to say? He used reasoned, logical thinking in coming to his conclusions. It has nothing to do with race. He is afraid of the direction that fascists like you are taking the Republican party.

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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 12:32pm.

Isn't it obvious that a retired US Army General, former Secretary of State, National Security Adviser and Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff must have endorsed Obama because he's black? For what other reason could he possibly have a different opinion than brat's who is surely more informed about such issues?


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 9:45pm.

I am not focused on race but Powell sure as heck is, if you just look back abit. He stated earlier in the campaign how the election of an african-American would be "electrifying". He is made a four-star general and Secretary of State by Republicans, not to mention having John McCain go to bat for his son to be appointed to the FCC by Clinton. He has acknowledged being a Republican and to my knowledge never made a statement against the appointments to the Supreme Court that have been done by Bush. But, NOW, states that that is the "reason" for his adulation..I mean, endorsement of B.O. He just can't stomach another appointment, like the completely qualified Alito and Roberts. The point is, Powell would NEVER be endorsing B.O. if B.O. was white. And, the reason I used the "typical black man" comment was to see how many of you hypocritical libs would go balistic on me but have never cared to mention that B.O. used it first. He used it to describe the woman that loved and cared for him as he grew up. "Typical white woman"...what a nice thing to say, huh?

Submitted by winby1 on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 7:18pm.

I'm an Independant and what I said is the truth!! You can paint any picture you want on it Obama was involved with a Racist and he knows that!! His sermons are full of hate and rage and you can turn your head to that if you choose. I don't beleive you would give the same benifit of the doupt to a KKK member. I wouldn't!! I cannot!! I cannot tolerate an ignorant white racist and I cannot tolerate an ignorant black racist. The Rev Wright is an IGNORANT black racist!! Obama was involved with him and said he loved him. You can turn your head if you want to but if your white he hates you just like he hates me!!

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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 3:22pm.

Here's hoping the R's don't wander in the wilderness as long as the D's did then.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 1:48pm.

well because Democrats don't use their turn signals when changing lanes. Smiling
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Submitted by chippie on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:53am.

Really now? Eye-wink


Submitted by boo boo on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:41am.

What for when I can honk...at ya..or is that not good, don't want ya to fall off that there bike, even if you do vote republican. I always us my signals by the way...and this year I'm a democrat...

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