OMG!!!

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If not true, this is the most slanderous thing I have ever heard in my life!

I have no comment except that this is the published rumor I've heard from several people which hit DailyKos!

Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother

If this is fake it's a new low in American politics.

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 7:59pm.

Thank goodness it turned out to be another falsehood perpetuated by the vast left wing conspirators.

At least we have a Presidential candidate that hasn't committed adultery in his heart many times. (or gives interviews to "Playboy")

Jimmy Carter The Playboy Interview - Excerpt


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 2:52pm.

Does anyone besides me suspect that Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove was behind this story breaking? I'll give him credit for knowing peoples' weaknesses and exploiting them to the maximum. The man knows no shame, and this is right up his alley. Keep your eye on the ball people.

"I can't wait until tomorrow because I get more lovable every day."


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Submitted by NUK_1 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:27am.

I believe that BS about as much as screwball Larry Sinclair's story that he smoked crack and had sex with Obama. Crazy junk by the tinfoil hat types.


Submitted by Nitpickers on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:51am.

You could be correct about the legitimacy of that story, although it has been produced by several sites. Shouldn't be hard to prove or disprove.

However, you must remember that the very worst offenders of their own rules are those who are vehemently conservative, religious, and have led such lives for a long time.

When they do screw up, it is almost impossible for them to admit that it could have happened to them! They have brain-washed their own thinking!

Mr. Craig, and others come to mind---the shotgun shootin preacher's wife, the lady who killed five of her children, etc. We tend to overlook such stuff if we can because they tried!

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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:24am.

Last day wrap up

Gov. Palin definitely looks pregnant here.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Sun, 08/31/2008 - 11:11pm.

I've been reading about this rumor since yesterday and I'm not sure what to think about it at this point. I did see a comment on a blog today from a doctor who wrote:

"First I'd like to say I am an MD.

This story sounds very shady or highly irresponsible. A woman who has had 4 previous children can deliver very quickly after the loss of the amniotic fluid(water breaking). To take a 11 hr flight is irresponsible especially since the child was a known down syndrome child. If the baby would have had to been delivered on the plane it could have been a disaster, as DS children have multiple abnormalities and can have distress at birth. They are considers a higher risk delivery. If a woman is close term they are advised not to travel by plane. Also, they would never be advised to travel after their "water breaking". If your "water breaks" a woman is told to go to the hospital. In primigravid woman(1st baby) they dilate slower in most cases(1-1,5 cm/hr) so it is not a mad dash, but most act that way out of excitement and apprehension. In a muligravid woman(4 in her case) there is no way an OB would recommend travel especially with a potentially distressed delivery of a Down Syndrome baby. Multigravitous women usaull dialte at 2-2.5cm/he which means total dilation in less than 5hrs. Her flight was 11 hrs which means this was very risky.

This is either a cover up or Ms. Palin was highly irresponsible in her actions."

I'm also hearing that no one from McCain's campaign staff, or the Republican party for that matter, checked records or newspaper archives in her hometown.

Did the Repub's do ANY research on her before making this hasty decision to tap her as VP?


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Submitted by rock78 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:24am.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Sun, 08/31/2008 - 10:03pm.

Either way its wierd. I cannot imagine that she would have flown while in labor. If that part is true, then the rest kind of makes a strange kind of sense!

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Sun, 08/31/2008 - 9:52pm.

Trig Palin was born with Down's Syndrome. This is very prevalent among 40+ women who get pregnant and virtually unheard of in pregant women under 20.

And yet...and yet...

the circumstantial evidence is intriguing. Remember when you and your wife were making babies? When my wife's water broke we were at the hospital not later than 45 minutes each time.

Getting on an airplane, travelling twelve hours (including changing planes with a layover), driving past a hospital with superb neo-natal facilities to travel an additional 45 minutes to a sleepy rural hospital is not the normal behavior of a pregnant woman.

It is, however, quite consistent with the actions of a mother who learned that her pregnant 17 year old went into labor prematurely back home.

I think there is more to this story than meets the eye.

Oh, and I just found this: The Sarah Palin Pregnancy Decision Map


Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:24am.

pregnant and not show--my daughter did not look like she was pregnant with each of her pregnancies up to the day she delivered. I also knoew one woman (married and with no reason to lie) who had no idea she was pregnant until she went to the emergency room with stomach pains and delivered her third child! As for the pics of the young daughter, I have seen many teen-agers with that same tummy and bust line and they were not pregnant. You or I may have gone to a hospital closer, but we do not know the reason. Trying to reach a doctor she really trusted and relied on? We don't know the details and until we do should not pass judgement.

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:38am.

It seems to me most babies are about 6-9 lbs. irregardless of the size of the mother. Ever notice those 80lb looking Oriental woman walking around with what looks like a 30lb baby, but would look normal if someone else were holding it? Palin looks not only tall, but very big boned. A 6-8 lb baby would be a blip on the radar screen for someone like that.

As for her not telling anyone, the MDs test would have picked up Down syn, that would have been painfull, and I don't think I would have wanted to discuss it either. It would have been horrible walking around knowing something was wrong with your child. You would have to be a little nuts by the due date.

Who knows what would have been going on in her mind? Maybe she held up as well as she could, and when she knew she was in labor, all she thought about was getting back to where she felt 'safe'. Remember I said you might be a little nuts by your due date, knowing something was wrong with your child. Once in a while you read stories of woman having babies in the bathroom of the planes, or teens having them in the bathroom and not telling. I don't think these are bad people, I just think they go nuts for a little while and panic. Your hormones are going wild.

In either case, I don't think we should judge her. Everyone is different. Each of us may have done something very different, but who are we to judge someone in such a painfull place in their lives?


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Submitted by JeffC on Sun, 08/31/2008 - 9:16pm.

I do not believe it or have any evidence. If this is not true them it's the dirtiest thing ever in US politics. I'm just passing on a completely unsubstantiated rumor to give everybody a headsup.


Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:25pm.

"unsubstantiated" rumor. Rumors are just that -rumors. If this is not true a terrible injustice has been done to a seventeen year old girl. Just by reading the blogs on this site you can see what a rumor can do. This may be the unmitigated truth but until the truth is known and that information comes from a good source, you are only spreading rumors. Would your family have appreciated such rumors spread about your sister Amy, when she was seventeen? I saw her on several occasions at Woodward Academy when she looked pudgy--but always felt this was teen-age fat--never would I have assumed or presumed to spread a rumor that she was expecting. Pretty hurtful to a family in any case and especially so when the family is in the national spotlight. You above all should realize this. If you felt it was something you should apologize for in advance, why print it?

Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:41pm.

It always seems that the most "strict" families about religion and principles are the first ones to fall into such conduct, and generally try to cover it up instead of saying: " stuff happens."

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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:35pm.

I had several people tell me about it and there were 1541 stories on Google News about it. It was hardly a secret.

As to Bristol being pregnant, here is a good source for you. Her mother:

Assessing the Political Impact of Bristol Palin's Pregnancy


Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:46pm.

How would you judge the character of someone like Sarah Palin who ignored telling McCain that her unmarried daughter was pregnant in spite of her ranting and raving about such things is what got her chosen!
The DUI of her husband a number of years ago would not matter unless he is still a drunk.

Maybe she did tell him--he probably, like me, doesn't really care!

It seems all politicians are hypocrites about something, even in Alaska!

Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 2:35pm.

Bonkers-If you read the link JeffC posted-it states that she did tell them before she was named for VP spot.

JeffC--Regardless of how many other people repeated a rumor, it does not justify your doing so and offering an apology while posting it. If you did not have facts to back it up why print it? I expected more from you. You have lived your life in the spotlight and know how hurtful untrue rumors can be. Many years ago I knew your sister Amy when she was a student at an area private school. During this time she was pudgy and had a stomach. I surmised it was still "baby fat" and lack of exercise on her part. I would never have spread a rumor that the president's daughter 'looked' pregnant. As a parent, I know what harm can be done to a teen-ager who is the victim of rumors. Not too long ago a young family member of yours was in the news and there were very many unflattering letters sent in regarding this individual. In that case it was not a rumor, but I am sure the letters hurt your whole family. That is why I was so surprised that you would pass on a rumor about a child.

So, now the Palin family comes out and says that Bristol is five months pregnant. The picture posted with that story (your link) shows a very slender looking Bristol. Rumormongers jumped on the fact that she looked pregnant in the earlier photo where she had her hands under her stomach (wearing a green sweater). I hardly believe if she was pregnant and her family was trying to hide the fact that they would have had her out in the front as they did and in that pose. As to who is the mother of Trig; I don't know, you don't know, Bonkers doesn't know and neither does the country. This information is known to the family and others they feel free to discuss it with. Until the actual truth comes out, it would behoove us all to remember to never say "Never" as you do not know what will happen in your family--to a child, a grandchild or great grand child. If it does happen to any family member of some of these bloggers who are so gleeful, I hope they encounter kinder people than they have shown themselves to be. I feel this way as a parent and not with any political overtone. I, at this point, honestly do not know who I will vote for as no candidate appeals to me.

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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 3:08pm.

It's a tough business that Palin choose. After 1500+ stories there was no way to keep the secret.

However, here is Obama's statement today:

At a press availability in Monroe, Mich., Barack Obama said: "Back off these kinds of stories."

"I have said before, and I will repeat again: People's families are off-limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

Good enough for me.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 5:51pm.

"I have said before, and I will repeat again: People's families are off-limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits."

I respect Obama even more for taking the high road on all this. A candidate's children should be off-limits and not chastised or ridiculed for political gain.

This is so different than the mean-spirited attitude McCain had toward the Clinton's when he grossly, ridiculed Chelsea's looks by telling a nasty joke about her during a Repub dinner. Good grief, McCain is such a nasty little man:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” - John McCain


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 2:03pm.

I've read the stories and apparently she did tell McCain and he didn't care, neither do I. It's McCain's constituency who are the most likely to condemn her, not the liberals.

Palin being strident on the abortion issue should get her daughter a free pass.

This is just the first unknown about Palin which points out the danger of not vetting someone in a campaign. Lord only knows what she's going to say when someone ask her a substantive question.

"As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know."

McCain has really rolled the dice for the US on this one.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 5:45pm.

Judging by the comments on these blogs, it's not the McCain people that have a problem with Palin.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:52pm.

"How would you judge the character of someone like Sarah Palin who ignored telling McCain that her unmarried daughter was pregnant..."

I wonder if McCain is rethinking his VP pick? You know, he could actually change his mind and disqualify Palin and go with another pick...say, Romney.

That would be interesting!


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Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 7:40pm.

You guys should listen to yourselves. What's next? Demands to gut the teenage girl and abort the baby as some sort of sacrifice to your almighty Obama god?

Chill a bit.


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 4:03am.

The girl can't help it!

It is the Momma who is a hypocrite!

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:37pm.

I think it is absolutely wonderful that Bristol Palin chose to have her baby and I'm sure she'll make a great mom. However, I DO NOT feel comfortable having Sarah Palin pushing her anti-choice, anti-sex education agenda on me or the country for that matter.

It's as simple as that. I'm chilling...at least for the night.

Have a good evening.

"Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support."
- Sarah Palin, in answer to the question "Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?"

(btw-I don't agree with distributing contraceptives in school either but children NEED to be educated on sex and how to prevent pregnancy and STD's)


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Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:48pm.

Indeed some frank and honest discussions are in the works at the ole Git household. I personally resent the thought of the government butting in the lives of my children usurping my parental authority and rights.

Hope you had a great Labor Day. That's what I did... labor. Smiling


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:25am.

How long were you in labor? Smiling
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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:55am.

and converted to eruos, and spent most of that on a taxi. I had ravioli yesterday and it cost me the equalent of 25$. I do not know how the pizonos make it with everything so expensive.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 12:03pm.

or as they say "chio". I am going to stagger off.
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Submitted by kjam on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:40am.

Long time no see in the neighborhood. You know so many on here, see posting below for volunteers needed, and help me pass the word around!
Went to Jekyll for the weekend, was going to cut grass today, but battery is acting crazy. Hope all is well with family. Maybe next time everyone gets together @ Starbucks, I can get by there...


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:44am.

Those darn batteries act up at the most bad times.
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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:31am.

Hey man.... git back to work! Eye-wink


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:38am.

It is 6:30p here in Italy. I am the hotel bar now and using this %$£" Itlian keyborad to pound out something that makes sense.
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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:44am.

."I am the hotel bar now". OK, now it all makes sense. Leave a little for the locals now.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:46am.

and not what I am drinking Smiling
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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:48am.

the wine.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 11:51am.

vino. Good stuff. Do not drink on an empty stomach.
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Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:51pm.

AMEN!

Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:51pm.

AMEN!

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 7:46pm.

I hope people understand, these are kids that made wrong decisons, but please dont' hang them in the town square, they are scared,frightened kids that know they screwed up. Please be leaders for them, and not finger pointers.


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 4:13am.

Yeah, just lak them in Riverdale whut steal stuff---they no they screwed up when caught!

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Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:35pm.

In Wasilla, Pregnancy Was No Secret

So his name is Levi.

That's about the only thing that I didn't know about Bristol Palin's pregnancy. The rest of the details I picked up almost without trying, while talking about other things with townsfolk — some who know the governor and her family well, some who don't. It was, more or less, an open secret. And everyone was saying the same thing: the governor's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, the father is her boyfriend, and it's really nobody's business beyond that.

I just hope the 'dad' takes his parenting obligations as seriously as Bristol will no doubt do. Here's wishing her the best!


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 4:07am.

Can I then assume that all these babies in Atlanta who have only "baby daddies," are OK with you?
Any way, it is nobody's business, right?
Oh, you don't want to pay for them? OK.

Submitted by MYTMITE on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:44pm.

are ashamed of yourselves. This is a seventeen year old girl who has made a mistake in judgement. This has happened to many young girls for many, many years. I thought we had become more enlightened, but from reading some of the blogs on here I guess we haven't. This young lady is not running for any office, if she was the kid down the street, a few people might shake their heads, the nasty gossips would have a field day (as has some bloggers on this site) and life would go on. I am waiting for someone to come out with a story that Sarah Palin did someting to make her child a Downs Syndrome child. Seems people are that petty and mean spirited. I have lost a lot of respect for some posters on this site. This is not politics--this is a young woman's life and the life of her unborn child.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 9:50pm.

I think the key here is the hypocrisy. Go back and read some of the stuff that hobbs or Git or Armybrat or KimberleyinPTC or other conservatives have said about children born out of wedlock, and their mothers. I just recently posted a post that simply said "having children is okay, even out of wedlock" and you should read the responses I got.
But now, since it is Sarah Palin's kid, all of a sudden it is an understandable mistake, and we should not condemn her. I guess we should only condemn liberals or non-christians, or blacks who have kids out of wedlock?

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 8:33am.

Me a hypocrite??? Yeah, every day. How about you Fascist?
Coming from a fascist, you're accusation means very little. I consider the source.

Here's where I spent my Labor Day. Where did you spend yours? Stuffing your fat face with hotdogs and tater chips?

Investing in children and single mothers happens to be something I invest time and money in. There's my "hypocrisy". I understand how this may appear offensive to you since your preference is to 'gut & shred' unborn children.

The issues unwed mothers and children have to deal with are often times horrific. Heck yeah I have serious issues with the irresponsible actions that result in single parent households whose by-products often times give us less than desirable citizens and parenting results. At least my "hypocrisy" tries to make a difference in these lives in an attempt to minimize their negative effects.

I've seen it first hand with my sister who became pregnant at 16 and my aunt who was raped in Chicago by a black assailant. I've seen first hand the difficulties both of these women have faced as unwed mothers and how each of them have overcome those circumstances. They are the exceptions to the rule. The problem is we are not doing enough to prevent these unwed pregnancies other than than throwing condoms at the problem, butchering babies and 'accepting' the promiscuous lifestyles our culture is heaping on our young people.

"having children is okay, even out of wedlock"

Your statement is shallow and plumb dumb and it's mindless people like you that I'm trying to protect my children from. It's NOT okay. Study the consequences and results of unwed mothers and single parent homes and tell us how okay it is. Intellectually you can't make it "okay".

It is not "okay", yet it is necesssary.


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 4:17am.

Hey, you got it!!

It all depends on how much money it costs as to whether it is OK! Also, whether the girl applies for welfare! As if they even know what that is at 14!

Half the young white girls have secret abortions and we never know it!
They go right on to college and all is well.

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Submitted by kimberlyinptc on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 10:23pm.

Hey Sick~I haven't commented on Sarah Palin's daughter. If she wants to keep her kid, great. If she didn't, that's fine with me also...it's her decision, not mine. I assume she (or her parents or husband-to-be) will financially take responsibility for the child, not taxpayers. Where do you get that I am a "conservative"?? I consider myself fiscally conservative, but I don't think the govt. should legislate what most call morality. I think religion and politics should be seperate. I'm pro choice and promote limited govt. in our everyday lives. I'm also about personal responsibility. If you, or anyone else wants to have 15 kids out of wedlock, great. But personally, I believe children grow up much more well adjusted and more likely to be better citizens if they are conceived and raised by 2 parents that have made a commitment to each other and the child. That commitment should be financial and emotional. If you bring a child into this world, you (both) should take full responsibility for that life, not just have the kid and expect other taxpayers to foot the bill because you chose to make a baby.
I feel sorry for Bristol Palin, she hasn't a clue what her life is about to become. A 17 year old has no clue what it means to be a mother. I hope her family is as supportative as they seem, she's gonna need them.


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:55pm.

And Dittos!

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 7:29pm.

I like all of you...but look at this. Some believe in abortion, some don't. These people didn't believe in abortion so they chose to have the baby and they are still getting creamed.

This is a child, having a child. This attitude of judgment..is what lead young girls to back room quacks when I was young. No I didn't have one, but saw others that did. They were good girls, who wanted to please so much, they were willing to risk their lives, not to hurt their parents. they may have been missguided, but listen to yourselves? What would these girls do to please you? You people who don't belive in abortions, are still talking about and hurting these young girls who lost their way, and need compasion more than ever.

Please don't be so judgemental. You can't have it both ways. The only people you will hurt will be your own children.

Me? After what I saw in college, I strongly belived in abortion, but you people are making me think, no matter what these kids do, they will never please you.


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 2:06pm.

The religious right would never let him change and they would never support Romney.


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