Barack is an inkblot-You see what you want to see!

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We know John McCain and Hillary. We generally know what they believe and stand for.

Barack is a blank slate, an inkblot, where for the past year, people have seen "hope" and "change" in the way the ink has spread across his very empty resume.

Barack is attempting to define himself merely by speaking with his charismatic charm and with little substance. When he does venture into substantive issues, he stumbles and falters. e.g. negotiating with Iran/Syria/North Korea. Which is why he won't tackle big issues without real trepidation for how it will play with the voters.

Today on Meet the Press, he stupidly admitted that he didn't take the advice of political consultants, and pulled the band-aid off fast on the Wright problem. Back pedaling as much as possible, now we learn that on this one very important issue, he has changed his position 3 and even 4 times. (Yes, Barack admits its a real issue that Americans rightly questioned.)

Last year, he dis-invited Wright to give the invocation to his formal announcement to be president. Why? Because, according to Meet The Press, Wright's sermons were too controversial. Not that they were wrong, just controversial.

Then came his Philadelphia speech where Wright was an Uncle and Mentor that he could never disown anymore than he could his typically racist white grandmother, or his own black community.

But today, on Meet the Press, he completely disavowed the man, and said if he remained a pastor at this church, he would leave it.

So in the course of just a few weeks, Barack has again demonstrated something we didn't know about him. We learned that unlike his speeches, in which he claims to be a new voice that is much different than the normal Washington politicians, he is instead just an empty slate whose never been vetted.

He's been given an affirmative action pass, by the media for the last year, so that he could appear "new", "different", and "inspirational". He was given this pass, because he was black, and considered a long shot. They gambled that he would become another Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, so they kept their hands off out of fear of reprisals from the black voters retaliating and staying home in November. (The black talk show hosts call it the Black Rain on McCain election, should Barack not get the nomination.)

Only after the primaries started coming did the affirmative action votes start being counted, and oh boy, did that shock the Democrats. Now its too late to do anything about it. Buyer's remorse is way too late, but Hillary's ambition is too big for her to give in. She has to fight in hope against hope that some other news might come out that puts her into the nomination. (Or help springboard her to 2012, should Barack lose in November, which exactly what her pollsters are telling her.)

You libs attack Denise and others for attempting to figure out this very empty black board, (I'm so racially insensitive), since he has no legislative history whatsoever by which to judge him adequately. Therefore, we must look at those persons he has chosen to associate with as one means to figure out what makes him tick; what are his core principles; how did he develop his ideas and ideals about what direction America should be governed?

And those associates are not that attractive, which is why he is now running as fast as he can away from them. He associated with a Marxist called Frank, a racist called Wright, an avowed terrorist called Ayers, a political ally and criminal called Rezko, and a wife too damn stupid to have any pride in America, until her husband is running for President.

I've said it before, and I'll say it till I'm blue in the face. I can tell more about a man by the company he chooses to keep than by any other single thing. Barack has kept the company of avowed Marxists, racists, and loathsome people. They have, and will continue to influence him, should he become our President.

Your attempts to smear the messenger instead of defending the facts and logic of this analysis speaks volumes to your biases and fears. You would obviously argue the facts, should they support your position, but you instead attack the messenger, Denise, because you can't defend these logical assumptions about how Americans can and must figure out who the hell Obama really is.

Barack is an inkblot. For the past year, people only saw those qualities that they wanted to see in that inkblot, i.e. hope and change, which played very well for Barack.

But now, the image is getting more clear, and we see that the inkblot is more of a picture, painted by the hands of many different artists, all of whom helped shape the final picture, and this rightfully disturbs us. To know that Marxists, and racists, and terrorists, have helped paint the inkblot that we now call Barack Obama, causes us to wonder what it all means.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 6:22am.

If Obama talks about his Grandmother like that.

What will he say and do to us.

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Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:14pm.

That's our next President. Get used to it.

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:55pm.

The very fact that you prefer Hilary to Barack demonstrates some leanings Hobbs. Because we all know just how much you hate Hilary. How could there be anyone that you dislike more? Why this fascinating obsession with Barack? The only credible explanation is your fear of a black man in office.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 6:21am.

Obama is not a black man. He is black and white. Sorry, you didn't know.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 6:53am.

I thought you Southern Baptists believed that anyone with "a touch" of "Negro blood" was by definition a "black man".

My, how times have changed...it wasn't that long ago when Southern Baptists denigrated people for having African American ancestry. Now they're denigrating people for lack of African American ancestry.


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 6:45am.

Mr. Obama could, theoretically, become the first zebra elected President of a major world power? Keep the faith.

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.


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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 1:23pm.

Are you going to call your new President Zebra? You must know Sick.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 6:50am.

I am disappointed in you calling you boy a zebra.

What does he call you since he talks the way he does about his grandmother?

Was the college you went to was it liberal. It had to be or you wouldn't go. BTW there are liberal Christian Colleges.

I have to go to work. Help Sniffles find a job. I know of one, he didn't even respond. Maybe he doesn't want to work.

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Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 10:22am.

he grandmother is a typical white honkee.

yes, the college i went to was liberal the one i went to was.

you know of job? snif is atomic scientist. you have one of those do you? I know job too---toilet cleaning at Mexican camp!

he do not want to work there you are
right.

your goin ofn deep end! (or should it be you're?)

Submitted by MANOUCHEHR on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 4:52am.

I sit here and I read your entries and I cannot help but wonder how many more people think in the way that you. The essence of your article regarding Obama is that even though he is inspirational to some people; is able to speak with coherence and ease; is very intelligent, people still should not vote for the man because he is black. I don't get it. I mean what has George Bush done for you lately? The reason that we are in the mess that we are in now in this country is because of your president. This whole experience thing is just another excuse people such as yourself use to avoid saying that you won't vote for a black person for president. I have no idea how old you are Richard. You seem to be an older gentleman to me, as I am in my 30's. My question is what would you say to someone like myself who will vote for anyone regardless of their color? Additionally, do you realize that individuals such as yourself have a huge problem? Something linked to some real or perceived inadequacy that you have developed, which in turn has made you and others into irrational, insecure, bigoted, (I mean racist) beings. Are you even happy in your life? I would venture to say not given the material that you display for others to see.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 12:17pm.

Since you recently only joined our little blog community, I'll make some assumptions. (Unless of course you are dollar/sage trying to change your tone, slightly to get some attention.)

If you consider a person as being a racist, merely because they believe that they have the absolute right to question the qualifications of a man who wants to be president, then I'm guilty as charged.

If you believe that a man who claims in his own words/books/speeches, that a Marxist was his college mentor, a Terrorist was his springboard to Chicago politics, his spiritual advisor for 20 years is an avowed racist, and his own wife has shared no pride in our wonderful country as being all irrelevant excuses to explain away my racism, then again, guilty as charged.

I need not go any further with debating this issue with you because I can not contemplate how I could every persuade you to consider anything other than your percieved prejudices about Republicans as being absolute.

So, ignore my posts, please. Consider them all excuses for my hidden racist agenda and leave it at that.

Then again, if this is all irelevant, why is Barack now throwing his pastor under the bus with his "typical white" (racist) grandmother. Man, that sounds like some leadership to me.


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 11:03am.

It is about experience or in BHO's case, the lack thereof. It IS about the associations he has with people (Ayers, Wright, Renzo, the Muslim group that has connections with terrorists). It IS about his extreme liberal views. It IS about his (and his wife's) inability to see the vast amount of good about this country. It IS about his desire to make our wonderful country into one where people think the government is our benevolent parent that will take care of our every need or desire. It IS about the "unknown" part of him. We know Hillary Clinton and we know John McCain. We knew what they were in the past and we can compare it with what they portray to us in the campaign now. We don't have that with Barack Obama. And all of the issues that have surfaced about him does cause unease. Now, you and the others can name-call and write your unneccessary and untrue personal attacks all you want, that is your right, but those labels you throw at some of the posters here have no glue. None at all.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 11:12am.

I totally agree, that is why I want to see Barak Obama have that experiance of being POTUS.


Submitted by lion on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 4:53pm.

Richard--aren't you the cutest racist around. "Blackboard" "Inkblot"

And all the others--BPR, Beaver, post endlessly about the threat of Obama and the BLT.

Actually, you are the heart and soul of the Republican Party. Built on white opposition to the Civil Rights laws of the 1960's, the Republicans must continue to fan the flames of white fear of blacks in order to continue conservative control of the Federal government.

And here comes an African-American Democratic candidate for President who is not an "angry black man." He is a well-educated, reasonable, Christian family man who speaks a message of unity and optimism for all Americans.

You have to turn him into an "angry Black man" so you can frighten whites to vote against him. So here comes Rev. Wright and BLT. And if that is not enough, let's link him to the 1960's Weather Underground (although Obama was 9 years old at the time). And of course we can always hint that he is a secret Muslim (Hussein-hint, hint)

Well, you have been successful in the past. Willie Horton, Democrats are "soft on crime", etc. And you may win again. But it would hardly be a moral victory. And the country is changing. Your message of fear and racism is ugly and getting old. Just maybe more voters will decide that the war in Iraq, the economy, health care and many other real issues are more important.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 11:12am.

Thanks for being so succinct and articulate in sharing the 'truth'.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 9:04pm.

Richard, let's talk about this point you brought up:

"When he does venture into substantive issues, he stumbles and falters. e.g. negotiating with Iran/Syria/North Korea. Which is why he won't tackle big issues without real trepidation for how it will play with the voters."

As you know, I've said before that I would be happier with McCain than I am with the current C in C. But the not-so-straight talk is starting to REALLY lose me.

You know my big issue is the war we are fighting against Al Qaeda. I am troubled by several things that have actually spilled out of the mouth of McCain. Even though the names he has called his wife and fellow Senators and Congressmen are very troubling, they only point to major character flaws, but don't directly show incompetence WRT foreign policy. (Big "but" here) But,
1. When John confuses Sunni and Shiite;
2. When he insinuates a comfort with 100 years of "peaceful" occupation of Iraq, but will give no idea as to how long he will continue this REALITY of VERY UNPEACEFUL occupation;
3. When he went on Meet The Press and said the Hagee endorsement he sought was a "mistake", and then said he was "proud" of it;
4. When he flip flops on tax cuts and "agents of intolerance;"
5. When he suggests suspending the gas tax that pays for the repair of our crumbling infrastructure;

That is when I question his judgment and ability, and I wonder how in the world he will survive the first five minutes of his first debate with his democratic rival. It's going to get a bit tougher for John soon.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
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Submitted by Main Stream on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 7:24pm.

My sentiments exactly, regarding Obama.

Plus...the media needs to start reporting on the real issues that we are facing in this country.

"Just maybe more voters will decide that the war in Iraq, the economy, health care and many other real issues are more important."

I wish we could hear more from the mainstream media as to how each candidate stands on these issues. I have to get most of my news now from the internet, websites and blogs because the networks and cable stations just keep playing their idiotic sound bites of all 3 candidates.


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 6:02pm.

Very well written. The longer this goes on, the more confidence I have in the chances for Barak Obama. He is a man of considerable substance to cause this much reaction before he is even nominated. I believe the timing of the Rev. Wright issue, rather than hurting him, is actually causing the Republicans to reach their critical mass too early. Considering that they don't even like their own candidate, we may see a meltdown. Self-control does not seem to be part of their strategy.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 8:48pm.

It is wonderful that this Wright story has run its course. Those that criticized Obama for his silence are now trying to turn Barack's criticism of Wright's words into a flip flop; all while ignoring Hagee and Parsley's endorsements which McCain SOUGHT OUT! Unfortunately for McCain, when we get to real issues, he is going to have to reexplain many of the things HE has actually said, as opposed to the views of others.

Lion answered as well as anyone could have!

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 11:56am.

Expressing some Republican’s philosophy for the fall campaign. Turn the election away from issues like the economy and the war in Iraq toward irrelevancies like Obama’s former pastor.

Here is the key quote: “Your attempts to smear the messenger instead of defending the facts and logic of this analysis speaks volumes to your biases and fears.”

Richard is exactly right. His attempts to smear the messenger speaks volumes about his fear that his candidate cannot win if the campaign is based on issues and his bias that a black man might win.

How many times already has Richard said here on this blog that he will help form, join and/or promote a 527 political committee for the sole purpose of smearing Barack? It is the frank admission of that wing of the Republican Party willing to sink to any level, embrace any smear and tell any lie to win the election.

It very well may work.

If the people in the country can be fooled by the Richard-Republicans into believing that irrelevancies such as who served on the board of a charity that Obama also served on is equivalent to a serious discussion of issues such as the Iraq war where over 4000 American soldiers have been killed, then Obama may well lose. If people reject the irrelevancies and vote on the issues then Obama will win.

The Richard Hobbs Republicans know this very well. Watch between now and the election and notice and count the disparity between any discussion of real issues and the overwhelming number of personal attacks, slurs, innuendos, slanders, swiftboat type lies and attempts at character assassination posted by them. It’s their stock-in-trade.

Richard is mirroring another republican to whom Joseph Welch posed the question:

“Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

Sadly, the answer is the same that Welch got: No.


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 1:26pm.

Too much to address in your left uppercut to my body.

I'm sort of having a good laugh about how the Republicans are trying to keep the electorate away from the real issues and instead focusing on irrelevant associations. Thats a real hoot. (Is that because voters are too ignorant to know how to learn about the real issues, which is why you Democrats have Supervoters?)

The non-issues, that you keep saying we are trying to promulgate through lying 527's is really funny. This denouncing the messenger is really a blast. You blame the 527's in 2004 for lying about Kerry, even though they put up proof. You mock the Swift Boaters and then repeatedly call Bush a liar for purposefully misrepresenting why we went into Iraq. So I guess I am not understanding your blog, since the words you and Democrats use, often have different connotations than what Republicans --and the dictionary, seem to say.

Here are a few examples of that:

SwiftBoaters-

Democrats call them a lying smear campaign.

Republicans call it testimony and evidence of people that associated with Kerry and know the truth. Then again, in Democrat worlds, Nixon might have been President one year prior to 1969, which would mean Kerry was correct.

Racism:

Democrats say this can only be done by a white man over a black man, since the white man has power over blacks.

Republicans believe racism is saying one race has constitutionally superior rights over others of a different race.

Spiritual Mentor:

Democrats say attending a church of a racist, Farrakhan supporting, Anti-American church, whose pastor is an idiot who was placed on Barack's spiritual advisory committee is insignificant and unimportant. (Unless you're talking about a Republican.)

Republicans seem to think that a spiritual mentor is just that. Someone whose advice and consent you have sought after, been inspired by and are greatly influenced by.

Pride in America:

Democrats, especially Barack's wife, seems to think America is unworthy of any Pride whatsoever in our many accomplishments, because of the wrongs we committed against blacks via slavery, Jim Crowe, segregation. That is, until her husband is the leading candidate for the Democratic nomination, then all is well with America.

Republicans believe in the core principles of the greatest country in the world. We acknowledge her faults, but are passionate in our great pride we have in her many accomplishments over the last 240 years.

Terrorists:

Democrats visit them in their homes and seek their respect and endorsements in local politics, (See Ayers)

Republicans think we should just shoot them.

Marxism:

Democrats feel close with them, since they are but one or two generations from becoming Marxist. They influence them such, that even Barack praises an avowed Marxist in his book as an influence on his political thinking. (Unfortunately, he couldn't remember his last name for the print version.)

Republicans think we should just shoot them.
They have enslaved more peoples around in the world, than America ever did in the slave trade.

Character assassination by lies:

Democrats (used to call this the Evening News with Dan Rather) say this happens when average American Citizens, pay for T.V. Ads which remind the American people of the truth of a Candidate. You know, like eyewitnesses to the lies of a candidate for President. Or, you know, quoting the racist sermons preached in the Church of a candidate who claims, (now get this), that he is going to bring all races together! Yeah, thats a hoot.

Republicans say lying is lying. If the ads are wrong, then put up your own ads spelling out how they are wrong, rather than in just getting all of the news organizations to merely slander them as being political lies.

So, Jeff, maybe we can get together and create our own political dictionary. I'm really interested in how you would describe the word democracy and compare that to how Democrats respect the voters more than the Republicans by having Super Delegates who can veto the will of the average voter. That should be another hoot.


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 3:24pm.

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Submitted by Mike King on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 6:02pm.

I expected better. If this is what you consider "proof", you sir have the art of spin down to a science. Not quite to the level of perhaps a Carville, but well above average.

Just my two cents worth.


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 6:56pm.

The swiftboaters lied. Let Kerry provide the proof, it's not my fight. They came back and promised a million dollars to anyone who could prove they lied and when Kerry called them on it they reneged. They didn't back down because they were on the side of truth. They backed down because they couldn't back up their lies when they had to put up the money. I'd be happy for them to renew the challenge and back up what they claim against Kerry's disputing it. Everyone knows they won't do it and everyone knows why.

For me though, this is Kerry's fight. He blew it when it was his time.

I don't think Obama is going to make that mistake. He knows it is coming and he'd better be prepared for it. First it was the lie that he was a Muslim. Then the lie that he had attended a madrassas school in Indonesia. On and On. Do you think these people didn't know they were lying? Do you think Richard really believes that Obama is a racist, Muslim, Marxist terrorist?

More to the point, do you think Richard really cares if Obama is a racist, Muslim, Marxist terrorist as long as he can characterize him as such?


Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 6:44am.

These were and are men of much integrity and character. They confronted Kerry, showing him for what he really is...a lying, dishororable and despicable man. He was in Vietnam only afew months and used his service there for his own gain. He requested to be put in for a purple heart for minor scratches, made up stories about missions he went on then came home and testified that OUR SERVICEMEN (one being my own Dad) had committed horrible atrocities while fighting there. He has NO honor and could not refute the Swiftboaters account during his campaign and could not now. Also, they did not renege on their challenge just spelled out the specifics. He knows if he brings what they requested that he will once again be shown for the despicable thing that he is.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:22am.

"He was in Vietnam only afew months and used his service there for his own gain. He requested to be put in for a purple heart for minor scratches,....."

If you are saying that, in Vietnam, our brave warriors could write their own Purple Hearts, I assume you would agree that the Purple Heart Citation process, at least at that time, was questionable.

Do you propose that we go back and evaluate each man's Purple Heart to determine if they were truly worthy of it?

Now, to a GREATER point: If John Kerry, the candidate from 2004 who actually did go to combat, is such a despicable man, WHY DID ALL BUT ONE PERSON ON HIS ACTUAL BOAT STAND BESIDE HIM ON STAGE AND SUPPORT HIM? Were you there? Were the Swift Boaters for Truth actually on HIS boat? Are all of the veterans from HIS ACTUAL SWIFTBOAT who supported him "despicable?"

I feel that people who would put a Purple Heart on a band aid and wear it to score political points aren't worthy of my spittle. And I don't care what the party of their target is. I thought Republicans were below the belt with John McCain in 2000, they stayed there for 2004, and they are true to form with the Muslim terrorist marxist Obama now. That is one of the many reasons I'm a democrat. I'd rather lose a political race than sacrifice all levels of decency for political gain. "Support the Troops**" That is just my two cents worth.

** some restrictions apply. Not applicable if Pat Tillman, John Kerry, Jack Murtha, Chuck Hagel, Charlie Rangle, Jimmy Carter, any other democrat, soldiers needing GI Bill assistance, soldiers needing adequate barracks at Ft Bragg, soldiers needing competent medical care at Walter Reed, anyone suggesting Iraq is not a militarily winnable campaign. Void where prohibited by the RNC

Kevin "Hack" King
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Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:49am.

"I feel that people who would put a Purple Heart on a bandaid and wear it to score points aren't worthy of my spittle" BUT I'd love to give it anyway! He pushed and pushed until he got someone to put him in for it. That is disgusting enough, where in so doing he mocks those who did earn them. But, to come back here and join those hippie jerks that call our servicemen rapists, torturers, and other vile and untrue things, that is UNFORGIVEABLE. These things are documented and I have seen the tapes myself. Check out www.swiftvets.com. If you can check this out and read it with a fair mind, you will see why I think of Kerry in this way. What he did when he came back was an insult to those who had gone there and fought and especially to those that fought and dies.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:06am.

My beef with Kerry was not the Winter soldier hearings. Bad things happened in Nam. My dad and two uncles were there. My beef with Kerry was his cowardice in not owning up to who's medals he through over the White House fence. He was not true enough to his convictions, trying to pick and parse which of his actions he would own up to. I fully understand why other vets were very upset with him. But to mock the Purple Heart process from an armchair or a political convention is ridiculous.

We need to find who you feel put in the "fake" Purple Heart report and try them for falsifying military documents...

Orrrr..., we need to GET OVER IT already. Your points are well taken. Thanks

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)


Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:10am.

We won't know until Kerry releases his military records like he promised several years ago. Strange, if everything was on the up and up, why won't he release them?

I'll tell you why - because he is a typical lying through his teeth politician that will say and do anything to get elected and cover his arse.
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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:20am.

As is with so many other issues, Beavis, you are absolutely, positively 100% wrong. Kerry released his full military and medical records back in June 2005. You probably missed this because it didn't get much play in the news. Why? Because it seems he was telling the truth and the Republicans couldn't find any new info to smear him with.

Kerry releases full military records


Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:54am.

"Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs has already found a discrepancy confirmed by the Department of the Navy of "at least a hundred pages" missing from those already disclosed by Kerry."

Kerry just re-released what he released before. He still has not released everything, as promised.
Did Kerry really release Navy records?

So tell us, snot-nose, what about the REST of the records? What is Kerry hiding?

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:13am.

Be it President Bush in the Guard or Kerry in D.C., they are politicians first. True, true

Kevin "Hack" King
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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:38am.

Describing these tactics as being below the belt is showing your considerable charity. One of my personal heartbreaks was the treatment of Max Cleland.


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 6:57am.

The Swiftboaters were and are scum of the Earth: craven cowards who hid behind their uniforms in order to whore their political agendas.

Swiftboaters are men without honor.


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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:29am.

Cal: Unless you are hanging onto Sniffles as a desperately needed Alan Comes, you need to be consistent and give him the heave ho for using the "W" word.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:35am.

Remember "Half honkey all donkey?" Is that a bannable offense? Should Cal be consistent there?

Remember "The Catholic church is the Great Whore of the Bible" guy? Should Rev. Hagee be prevented from having any works cited here?

Are you kidding me? You didn't mind then? Why cry out now?

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)


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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:52am.

Hack the Entitlement King....Gotta love it.....

Cal previously said in uneqivocal terms that the use of the "w" word was improper. Why shouldn't it apply to the bedwetters too? Ain't my rules. I don't care. How come you never complain when a liberal is foulmouthed?

But, hey, let's give Hack and Basmati a pass because they are victims. They are special. They have experienced so much hurt in the world. In fact, they are entitled to no money down, crappy credit, jumbo mortagages on half million dollar houses. Yeah....that's the ticket.


Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:59am.

Snif should be allowed to blog just like the rest of us. As long as we all remember that this is Cal's site and he makes the rules.

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Submitted by MajorMike on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:34am.

I don't agree with Sniffy on hardly any of the issues but I don't think his language is inappropriate. So.. I must dissagree with you on this one issue and ask Cal not to ban him. Relativity of perspective is a valuable thing (most of the time). Now if you want to hunt Sniffy down like a rabid dog and kick his liberal backside into the next timezone, wellllllll, I could get on board with that.
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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:39am.

And I'm talking those high-dollar built in kind. But, if you'd like, I'll gladly sell tickets and take odds at how long taxpayer lasts until he becomes a champion of Universal Healthcare and VA reform Smiling

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)


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Submitted by Mike King on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:15am.

So what is your point? To date, they have yet to be refuted or is it that you wish to enlighten us?


Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:07am.

As was expected, another baseless attack on the honorable. You are getting to be as boring in your blogs, Snif.

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Submitted by Mike King on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 6:02am.

Indeed it was Kerry's fight that he could simply not afford to become involved--as with any story there are two sides. Neither of which were 100% accurate, but more like 60-40 dependent upon your point of view. Kerry, I believe, did not issue the challenge, his people did and whether it was a total bluff, we may never know. Years do cloud recollections of thirty years hence. But, as you know, saged veterans are a tough breed and somewhat hard to make back down. Your dad is a good example.

But you are right, I could care less about Mr Obama"s religion-I just wish that he had more than being a community organizer under his belt after college. The possibility of his presidency with his lack of credentials is scary, at least to me.

To your point concerning Richard, well, he has his opinion too.

Ain't it a great country!


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:44am.

"But, as you know, saged veterans are a tough breed and somewhat hard to make back down. Your dad is a good example."

Ain't that the truth. I've often said that I feel sorry for the people who's countries make them face us in battle; that's a fate worse than hades. I can't imagine being a poorly trained, equipped, fed, and uninspired foe waiting to see who knocks me off first: Army SOF, Navy SEAL, Rangers, USAF, Marine, regular Army? Man!

I could tell by your handshake, as I can from most veterans, that you spent a career training and fighting with the best of the best. Isn't it funny how you can walk into a store or small diner and people ask, "are you military?" When I was younger it made me a bit uneasy. Is it the hair or lack thereof? Is it a poor sense of fashion? Now I know it is what it is. And I'm fine with that.

Cheers, brother

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)


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Submitted by Mike King on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:31am.

Normally I do not seek the last word, but this time I must add that old adage of "you can take the boy out of the country, but you'll never take the country out of the boy." The same applies to those who have served, they stop wearing the uniform but it always remains a part of them.


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 5:52pm.

McCain came out against the premise of the Swift Boat ads for various reasons, not the least of which was his friendship with Kerry.

So that's two reasons we don't like him. The other is McCain Feingold, which gave us the 527's and is the only good thing that I like about that Bill. McCain regrets that one part.

Maybe McCains is smarter than we give him credit for. He helped create the 527's which really helped derail Kerry, and the GANG of 14 in the Senate that helped get three new appointments to the Supreme Court, 2 justices, and one of those moved up to Chief Justice.

So while McCain keeps pissing off Republicans, he keeps getting the job done. Go figure.

But seriously,. . . .

Barack by all accounts is politically an extreme liberal, but yet he wants to come across as a uniter, as a moderate against the extremes of both parties. You have to admit that.

While McCain is politically very moderate. He has very conservative views, and many liberal ones too, which balances out as a moderate Republican. (Strange while Barack doesn't want to be labeled a liberal, McCain calls himself a conservative.)

Anyway, arguably, how can someone who is so very liberal unite this country? Would it not seem more appropriate that a Moderate whether Democrat or Republican, might do a better job of bringing both extremes together?

Your dad's election is a blur for me. But if I recall, he didn't run as a liberal. He ran as a conservative Democrat. He governed, well, I don't recall much about his Presidency, as to classify him as liberal, merely a micro-manager. Anyway, my point is, that it would seem more effective to have a moderate Democrat or a moderate Republican to cross the barrier that separates the extremes of both parties. Would that not make sense?

Assuming Barack does get to be President, do you really think America is ready for a true, dyed in the wool, liberal?

Oh, I'm sorry. STRIKE THAT. Its all about the light reflecting qualities, or lack thereof, of the skin of the candidate. If John McCain were black and Barack were white, you know I'd be arguing just the opposite, because us racists only see the race of a candidate, and not the content of their political character.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:16am.

Hobbs said:

Assuming Barack does get to be President, do you really think America is ready for a true, dyed in the wool, liberal? Barack by all accounts is politically an extreme liberal, but yet he wants to come across as a uniter, as a moderate against the extremes of both parties. You have to admit that.

While McCain is politically very moderate. He has very conservative views, and many liberal ones too, which balances out as a moderate Republican. (Strange while Barack doesn't want to be labeled a liberal, McCain calls himself a conservative.)

This divisiveness between so-called liberals and conservatives is tearing our country apart! Do we have to have an enemy walking down our streets before we come together as Americans? Neo-cons and ultra liberals (which neither of the current candidates for POTUS are) can never be uniters. Trying to identify Obama as an extreme liberal - or McCain as a conservative, IMO, is a smoke screen. . . for racism.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 3:13pm.


"Obama: Perception vs. Reality"

Although he frequently makes a point of finding something charitable to say about his opponents’ arguments, Sen. Barack Obama almost always ends up voting liberal.

“The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact,” the Illinois Democrat wrote in The Audacity of Hope, a memoir published last year. [There's that elitist limousine liberal attitude refusing to stay hidden.] “Much of what I absorbed from the sixties was filtered through my mother [as well as the ir-rev Wrong & Bill Ayers], who to the end of her life would proudly proclaim herself an unreconstructed liberal.”

Obama has a 95 percent liberal rating from Americans for Democratic Reform, a liberal advocacy group that ranks all members of Congress. Yet he is often portrayed as a centrist. [Yes, his being a moderate is all a smoke-screen, a political illusion. "Just doing what politicians do," as his mentor, the ir-rev Wrong would say.]

“His record is liberal, and his rhetoric is moderate,” explained Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. [His words do not match his actions. He says one thing but does another. The same old same old politics. Nothing "new" about that.]

By pointing out the merits of both sides of an argument, Obama often sounds statesmanlike, even if he almost never ends up siding with conservatives.

“How you come across is more important than how you vote,” [Charlie Cook, editor of the Cook Political Report] said. “If voters perceive you as moderate, then your voting record isn’t terribly relevant. Perception is more important than reality [to liberals and moderates].”


"Obama Has Built a Solid Liberal Record"
(1/20/07)

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama appeals to a cross-section of America as an eloquent speaker with the potential to bridge a political battlefield bloodied by years of fighting.

But underlying the Chicago Democrat's sudden rise to fame over the past two years is a solid liberal record built over 10 years in Springfield and Washington, D.C.

Last year, Obama got 100 percent scores from the AFL-CIO, League of Conservation Voters and Planned Parenthood and an “A” rating from the National Education Association on their most recent scorecards


"Obama’s Test: Can a Liberal Be a Unifier?"

Even so, Mr. Obama does not come to the campaign with a reputation as one of the most accommodating bridge-builders in the Senate. And while he promises a very different politics from Mrs. Clinton, their voting records in the Senate last year were not strikingly different.

A recent analysis of key votes by The National Journal concluded that Mr. Obama had the Senate’s most liberal voting record in 2007; Mrs. Clinton ranked 16th. But of the 267 measures on which both senators voted, the National Journal analysis found that they differed on only 10. One of their major differences came on an amendment that called for the designation of the Revolutionary Guards in Iran as a terrorist organization; while Mrs. Clinton supported it, Mr. Obama missed the vote, but said he opposed it.

Congressional Quarterly said Mr. Obama voted with his party 97 percent of the time on party-line votes last year [96.7%, per the Washington Post]; Mrs. Clinton did so 98 percent of the time.

But it is Mr. Obama who is running on a promise of a new approach to politics. Given that, he says he understands the criticism of his voting record, but argues that the Senate is so ideologically polarized it is hard not to end up on one side or the other.

“The only votes that come up are votes that are purposely designed to divide people,” he said. “It’s true that if I’m presented with a series of votes like that, I’m more likely to fall left of center [FAR LEFT] than right of center. But as president, I would be setting the terms of debate.”

Mark Penn, the chief strategist for Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Obama’s Senate career did not back up his promise of being able to forge a new governing coalition across party lines.

“It’s a great promise,” Mr. Penn said. “But are the actions consistent with the words? I don’t see it.”

[That's fits the definition of a hypocrite: "One who, professing virtues that he does not respect, secures the advantage of seeming to be what he despises."]


Obama's Interest Group Ratings

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Citizens Against Government Waste 13 percent in 2005-2006.

In 2007 National Taxpayers Union gave Senator Obama a grade of F.

In 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Senator Obama a grade of 100.

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State 100 percent in 2006.

Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Council of La Raza [THE RACE] 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 100 percent in 2006.

Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all state legislative candidates in 2004, the National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund assigned Senator Obama a grade of F (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F).


"Obama Had Greater Role on Liberal Survey"

During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.


"Barack Obama: A Radical Masquerading as a Moderate"

David's mom, who's calling McCain a conservative, and how does that identify someone as a "RACIST"?

Evaluating a politician's record (or is it just evaluating Obama's, limited as it is), the main influences in his life, and his associations -- rather than mindlessly listening to his rhetoric -- renders someone a "RACIST"?

But it always comes back to "RACISM" for you, doesn't it? You must have been some DIVERSITY training instructor, i.e., P.C. Re-educator.

Have you ever heard the story about the boy who cried, "Wolf!"? You should think about the moral of the story.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:57pm.

I have stopped reading your research - since it it based on the 'talking points' of the neo-cons and very seldom includes your own analysis of the situation. I think I answered some of your concerns in my response to Hobbs. Denise - in spite of you and others - Obama is winning. There are enough people in our country who have gone beyond 'race' to evaluate the candidates on the issues and they have shown through their vote that color has less negative effect on a candidates ability to win then it did 30 years ago. Hurray America! Women and blacks are winners this year!! I was/am a darn good diversity trainer - and have broadened my understanding through reading many contributions in this discussion. It is too bad that some persons have been exposed to diversity facilitation that divided rather than united. I have never cried 'wolf'. Honey - I've seldom been pushed to 'cry'. Crying is a waste of time. I have been fortunate enough to be in positions to take educated action - no time for crying.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:04pm.

that you've "stopped reading," that is. Laughing out loud

"Honey," you surely do cry "RACISM" often enough.


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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:31pm.

It's real loud and you can hear it clear, some won't admit they hear it, but everyone in my house, neighbors hear it. Listen.

Click Obama Is Building A Religion

Yeah, is this your President. Not mine. I don't want his keychain either. I can't be a dude, I'm a woman. I think it's handling the money Obama likes.

Yep, BLT is another a religion, maybe Obama will build his own religion. That is what James Cone did with BLT. Makes you wonder.

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We Will Stand


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:13pm.

Cute - but empty of thought. I don't cry racism at all. I point out where it is apparent. . and I'm not the only one. You now offer nothing unique or different to the discussion. I learned a great deal when I first started reading your posts - and I now go to your sites often before you post so that I know the 'conservative' opinion of an issue. I read - just not your contributions.

Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:12pm.

"I don't cry racism at all"

No, when she starts to feel inferior, she will just start calling whitey names like "Mr. Charley".

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If Barack wins, America loses.....................

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:44pm.

I be Miss Ann! Laughing out loud


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:31pm.

Mainly to you and your friends who are the perpetual victims.

How can you possibly know if I "offer nothing unique or different to the discussion," if you don't read to find out? Your logic is empty of substance. Maybe you could learn logic from Richard when he helps Hack. Laughing out loud

I wonder how long you could go without crying "RACISM." Puzzled

I am "cute" (Is that why you called me "Honey"?) but definitely NOT "empty of thought"! Laughing out loud

Back to listening to Obama's "telling the truth." Laughing out loud


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:54pm.

How can you possibly know if I "offer nothing unique or different to the discussion," if you don't read to find out? Your logic is empty of substance.

I told you - I read your sites before you post. No need to re-read what you 'link'.

Read before you reply. Good night!! Hillary and Obama will make mince meat out of McCain. . .and McCain will not allow 'racism or sexism' to enter the race - if he is truly free from the influence of the neo-cons.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:07pm.

and quite well, too.

"I read your sites before you post."

Are you clairvoyant?

Exactly which sites are mine? Laughing out loud I've achieved more than I'd realized.

And aren't most of us survivors? The difference is a lot of us don't constantly remind others about our struggles or expect special treatment. And we don't subject others to "diversity" re-education. That's what I won't "accept."

Enjoy your Obamania celebration! Are you having mincemeat pie? Laughing out loud


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:27pm.

The teaching of American History, which excluded the contribution of Asians, Hispanics, Africans, is mis-education - not re-education. You and most Americans have been mis-educated. The younger generation has more respect for individuals of all colors, etc. I have great hope in the younger generation - and they are voting! Nope (mincemeat pie) - but enjoy your humble pie!

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:39pm.

How could you possibly know the extent of my education? A lot of those "contributions" you're likely referring to are only "significant" because of race or gender or sexual perversity. They are no where close to the level of Phillis Wheatley or some others.

"The younger generation has more respect for individuals of all colors, etc."

I thought we weren't supposed to look at skin color but character. But then that wouldn't be consistent with your "colorless" remarks to BPR.

My grammar and comprehension are excellent, "dear."

Why would I need any humble pie? Laughing out loud


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:49pm.

Speaking of "extent of my education", both Hack and Yardman were asking about that exact topic this evening in another thread, after they both detailed their higher education credentials at your request (and you mocked Hack's education in reply).

Is there a reason you've chosen to ignore their request? Hmmmm?


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:56pm.

answering why you plagiarized Jeff?

As far as education, I've proven that I know a lot more biology and medicine than you do. Laughing out loud

"Hmmmm" -- Is that your bee imitation! Laughing out loud

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:14pm.

s'okay Denise, I didn't really expect an answer.

Answering Hack's and Yard's simple question would have required a small bit of both courage and character, traits sadly missing from your genetic makeup.

Not that I blame you, though, you didn't get to pick your parents. Sad

Hopefully, you can do a better job instilling those traits in your children than your parents did with you. Smiling


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:39pm.

"Courage and character" are learned traits, not genetic, but then biology and psychology aren't your best endeavors.

Logic isn't either... since you HOPE that I can "instill" those traits -- traits that you had just said were genetic.

"genetic and/or hereditary" -- No "or" about it. Logic deficiency again. "And" makes your wording redundant. English must not be your best subject either. And you do have trouble with spelling.

Typical behavior...

Calling my dad, who's a disabled vet, a "drooling slug"

"Pegleg Pete's Prevaricating Pusillanimous Progeny"

"I suspect such character flaws and cowardice may be genetic and/or hereditary in nature...After all, didn't you once tell us your daddy shot himself in the foot to avoid combat?"

(I know that you like guessing who I am, but John Kerry's not my dad.)

And I could mention your slurs to Pentapenguin and others.

Let the readers decide who's cowardly.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:16pm.

Your sites? The one you linked to dear - when I read your contributions . Geeez - comprehension skills? Have a nice evening - good night.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:59pm.

McCain is not my choice, but I will vote for someone.

McCain btw has more experience in his pinkie finger than Hillary, or Obama has.

What experience does Obama have in being a President. Has he been in the military? No. Neither has Hillary.

McCain has more experience. Sorry, to disappoint you.

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We Will Stand


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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:02pm.

You are doing outstanding. Please edit my work.

You know all the other people are perfect, but I need an editor. I have the best one.Smiling

We are not worried, are we? We don't have to be, and they don't get it.

Have a nice evening.

_______________________________
We Will Stand


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:15pm.

Thanks for the pay raise! DM thinks I'm Ann Coulter -- that deserves a bonus! Don't worry. I can squeeze you in between working for Sean (Cutie Pie) and Larry! Laughing out loud

Did you know that I own The New York Times and the Huffington Post, ABC News, and a lot of other sites? No wonder I stay so busy! Laughing out loud

You're right -- no need to worry. Smiling Have a great day tomorrow!


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:43pm.

. . .I am a survivor. You just can't accept that can you? Not only has my family survived since 1865 - but also we have achieved! How about that!! Smiling

Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:14pm.

"Not only has my family survived since 1865 - but also we have achieved! How about that"

So has mine and everybody elses! Big whoop! What makes it so special that your family has survived?

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:31pm.

What makes it so special that your family has survived?

LOL! That we haven't been convicted of beating up the likes of you!

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:15pm.

Notice DM said "not convicted" (vs. not guilty) of assault & battery, or worse.

This must be how she assured attendance at her "diversity" training classes -- verbal abuse and physical abuse.

"the likes of you" -- Is that like "those people"? Puzzled


Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:35pm.

The fact that my ancestors are "Slavik", which is where the word slave comes from, I would say it is pretty amazing.

That's the problem with - you think blacks have the market cornered with slavery as part of their history, when history tells us that there were alot more slaves in Europe.

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If Barack wins, America Loses........

Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:25pm.

You're absolutely right Mr. Charley. You Slavic’s really had it tough during Jim Crow. We certainly sympathize with you. You've done a great job in 'overcoming'.

Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 9:17am.

What a despicable, pathetic creature you are, DM. David must be ashamed of having such a scooby* for a mother.

*See definition #5 in the urban dictionary.

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Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 11:52am.

Thank you - but I don't need the urban dictionary. Glad you're expanding your vocabulary. For your information, I wasn't ridiculing 'white' slaves - just you! If you can't stand the heat - get out of the kitchen.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 1:32pm.

A smoke screen for Racism.

You see this is part and parcel of why there is problems in our country now over race. My obvious political leanings won't permit me to vote for a liberal like Obama, regardless of his color. I didn't vote for Kerry, Clinton, Dukasis, Mondale, or Carter, and yet the moment I object to a candidate with experience less than all of these. When I object to candidate with proven Marxist and Racist influences in his life compared to all of these. When I look at the voting record and see his votes are far more liberal than all of these, I'm called a racist.

This is the kind of stuff that is going to get people ticked off to the extreme.

Tell me David's Mom, are you black? If so, then aren't you a racist for not supporting John McCain?

I'm very disappointed that you still harbor so much resentment over these race issues. There are clearly racists all across our country, but most of them can be seen voting in the numbers supporting Obama. He is getting 90% of the black vote. If that isn't a vote predicated upon the color of his skin, rather than his politics, then I'm just floored.

In the many discrimination cases that have been won by blacks over the years, one factor they had to prove, was not the actual "intent" or "heart" of the employer, nope, that was too hard to do. What they had to do was establish a "Prima-facia" case reflected in the numbers of blacks verses whites that were being hired, or promoted, or given the best jobs, etc, verses the numbers of blacks that were represented in the population as a whole. Most cases were won merely on the actual disparate numbers. No examples of racist words or intentional acts were necessary, because, racists who are in power, didn't openly discriminate, they hid behind closed doors and therefore thought they were immune from being found out.

But the Courts found that the numbers proved the disparate and racist motivations of the employers.

Well, the numbers of blacks voting for Obama would blow out EVERY SINGLE example that the EEOC or any other Court has ever used to prove white racism over blacks.

Thats a fact, David's mom. Sad to say that you are too racist yourself to admit the facts.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:32pm.

I didn't vote for Kerry, Clinton, Dukasis, Mondale, or Carter, and yet the moment I object to a candidate with experience less than all of these. When I object to candidate with proven Marxist and Racist influences in his life compared to all of these.

Your political comprehension skills or your opinion of me is not important to anyone but you. Name one American who does not have a 'racist' influence in his life. Please don't suggest that you don't. Your posts reek of racism. Calling me a 'racist' is an attempt to deny any points of TRUTH regarding our country that I may bring to the discussion. Marxism is attractive to any group of people throughout the world who are oppressed. Education and information has been important for democracy to be chosen over Marxism. Barack and American blacks chose democracy.

Well, the numbers of blacks voting for Obama would blow out EVERY SINGLE example that the EEOC or any other Court has ever used to prove white racism over blacks.

Sir Hobbs - please note: Blacks did not run to previous elections and vote for Jesse Jackson Sr., Al Sharpton, Shirley Chisom; etc. because black voters are not sheep! They are voting for Obama - as many white voters under 65 are today because he is articulate in expressing his vision of change in Washington. Keep your eyes on the election. The country is changing. Obama is not an empty suit. Your insistence at belittling Obama is transparent . . . but that is your right to express your views. Many do not believe your argument regarding your non-racism views. There are those who are conservative who are not racist. There are those that are liberal who are not racist. Hold on Richard: THERE ARE BLACK CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE NOT RACIST. You may have missed my statement of purpose on this board - it is to discuss race and hear different views regarding racism. I have learned a lot. Am I racist? I'll complete 69 years as an American this year - and yes - I have racist opinions based on my experience as a black woman in America. But I have learned enough to realize that I cannot judge people by their skin color, education level, financial situation, religion, - but rather by their actions and how they treat their fellow humans

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:25pm.

The amazing thing is that anyone would try to deny its existence. We ALL have racial biases and prejudices. Some of us try to overcome them and some of us revel in them.

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Submitted by Silence Dogood on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:51pm.

After reading your posts over the past year or so it appears that your definition of a racist is anyone who either disagrees with you or is a Republican. Would you not agree?


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:11pm.

VERY GOOD OBSERVATION! Can't you just imagine how she taught her "diversity" training classes? A cross between Al Sharp-tongue & Cynthia "we all look alike" McKinney.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:26pm.

Are you paid to be an Ann Coulter clone? I know you think that's a compliment. People are tired of the negativity. We realize that the neo-cons are gearing up for Hillary. Can you reply without the negativity? I think not. The majority of voters in November will be under 65, and that represents reasoned change for America. A democrat will be president. The Republican record is dismal. . .and Denise, there are registered Republicans in my 'black' family. Race and/or gender will not be the defining issue in this election. It is Bush's record.

Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:19pm.

"Can you reply without the negativity? I think not."

David's Mom, can you disagree with a white person without refering to them as "Mr. Charley"?

I think not.

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If Barack wins......America Loses

Submitted by Sick of Fascists on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:24pm.

It is YOU who was referred to as "Mr. Charley." Not just any white person....you. You earned that title.

Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:28pm.

No, there was someone else that left David's Mom babbling to herself, and she called her "Ms. Charley"

It's a common term among that blacks use to refer to whites when that they feel inferior to.

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The Perverse Worship of a man

Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:21pm.

Your inability to comprehend is astonishing. There is no such thing as Ms. Charley. I was speaking to you.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:54pm.

Read this slowly:

Obama Wins North Carolina Primary, Clinton Leads in Indiana
by FOXNews.com
Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Barack Obama holds a beer as he greets patrons at a bar in Raleigh, N.C.,Tuesday. Obama won the North Carolina primary, but was trailing Hillary Clinton in Indiana. (AP Photo)

Barack Obama won the North Carolina Democratic primary Tuesday, FOX News projects, preventing Hillary Clinton from staging an election-day upset in the Tar Heel State.

Clinton took the lead in Indiana, but it was still too early to call the race.

The two states are the last big contests on the primary calendar and together offer the final chance for the candidates to make a serious dent in the delegate counts.

Leading by double digits as returns came in from North Carolina, Obama taunted Clinton for saying last week that North Carolina would be a “game-changer.”

“Today what North Carolina decided is the only game that needs changing is the one in Washington, D.C.,” he said at his rally in Raleigh, N.C., congratulating Clinton for “appears to be her victory” in Indiana but also jabbing at her.

“Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination,” Obama said. “More importantly, because of you, we have seen that it’s possible to overcome the politics of division and the politics of distraction; that it’s possible to overcome the same old negative attacks that are always about scoring points and never about solving our problems. We’ve seen that the American people aren’t looking for more spin.”

Both candidates were faring well among bases usually loyal to their campaigns Tuesday.

In Indiana, Clinton’s advantage is based on groups that have supported her in earlier primaries — white women, white working-class voters and rural voters.

With 71 percent of precincts reporting, Clinton led 52-to-48 percent.

The trend linking the New York senator with white voters with no college degree seems to be continuing, according to exit polls. In Indiana, 65 percent of these voters went for Clinton, 34 percent for Obama. In North Carolina, 67 percent of these voters went for Clinton, 26 percent for Obama.

Clinton was winning among white men in both states, but it wasn’t enough to offset Obama’s solid support among young and black voters in North Carolina.

Overall, Obama led Clinton 59-to-39 percent in the state, with 38 percent of precincts reporting.

Obama was getting 91 percent of the black vote there. And college-educated voters were going for Obama over Clinton 55 percent to 42 percent in the state.

Polls consistently showed Obama ahead in North Carolina for weeks, but Clinton had recently closed his lead to single digits.

John McCain, virtually uncontested for the GOP presidential nomination, also won both states’ Republican primaries.

While neither Democratic candidate made public predictions Tuesday, their chosen rally sites offered a clue as to how they expected the night to end.

Clinton holds hers in Indianapolis, Ind., while Obama held his in Raleigh.

The two candidates worked hard Tuesday to squeeze every ounce of support out of voters — especially working class.

Clinton visited the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Tuesday with racer Sarah Fisher.

Obama visited the Four Seasons Family Restaurant in the Greenwood, Ind., Tuesday, after hitting a factory for the midnight shift change just hours earlier at an Indianapolis auto parts factory.

But without a drastic outcome in either state, the uncharacteristically long primary is expected to last even longer — until the last contests in early June, and possibly until the August convention.

North Carolina and Indiana are the largest remaining races in the Democratic presidential nominating contest, with 115 pledged delegates up for grabs in North Carolina and another 72 in Indiana. The rest of the contests on the calendar offer fewer than 60 delegates apiece.

Obama had 1,745 delegates to Clinton’s 1,608 Tuesday morning. A candidate needs 2,025 to win.

A strong performance for Clinton Tuesday could help her convince uncommitted superdelegates — whom she needs to have a shot at the nomination — to give her campaign another look.

Otherwise, Obama may be able to pick up the momentum lost from Clinton’s Pennsylvania victory two weeks ago.

The Tuesday contests could also give the candidates an idea where voters stand on an issue that dominated the campaign in recent days — a proposed federal gas tax holiday.

Clinton supports the tax suspension, she says, to give average Americans a break from high gas costs.

Obama called the idea a short-term “stunt” created only to help her win elections.

To a large extent, the gasoline tax even eclipsed the controversy surrounding Obama’s retiring pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Meanwhile, huge numbers of voters streamed to the polls in both states.

“I think we’re gonna have a record turnout,” Indiana Democratic Party Chairman Dan Parker told FOX News.

Polls at a few precincts in Indiana were kept open an hour late to accommodate the long lines of voters.

And a North Carolina elections official projected voters there would be “making history” in a state where nearly 500,000 voters cast early and absentee ballots by Monday — more than half of all votes cast in the 2004 primary.

FOX News’ Aaron Bruns and Bonney Kapp and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

READ THIS:
DAVID MOM OBAMA GETTING 91 PERCENT OF THE VOTE- THIS IS NOT ABOUT BUSH! IT SOUNDS LIKE RACE.

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Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:07pm.

Do you read what you paste? In one or two sentences, where am I so wrong?

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:10pm.

91 percent of blacks voted for Obama in N.C.

Hilliary now how did she stand a chance.

They all forget he is black and white.

Take this up with my editor.Smiling

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:37pm.

"Are you paid to be an Ann Coulter clone?"

Maybe.... Laughing out loud

Who are the "neo-cons"?

"Race and/or gender will not be the defining issue in this election."

Really? Laughing out loud I don't guess age will be either? Stupidity might be, though.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 9:01pm.

Unfortunately it may be. Bush was not an academic - and McCain admittedly was at the lower portion of his graduating class. Bush's record will be the issue.

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