It's no wonder you all keep posting garbage about the Dem candidates,

It's a shame it's only garbage that can be posted about the Dem candidates. Next time pick some that actually have some qualities and less garbage associated with them.

because you have NOTHING good to say about your own candidate.

At least we're honest about the guy we're forced to endure.

Easier to slam the other guy, than support your own, right? Now I can see why!!!!!

Whatever......

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Who is ET Al. That's not me. It must be someone else.

Have a nice evening.

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It not be you. It be that other guy.

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Glad you were talking to your buddies new friend. Everyone use to bash him until they met him? There is not another guy with me.

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I don't care what anyone puts up about McCain or Hillary- I don't agree with either of them.

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For me, the future is bright. I wish my Fayco neighbors could know this feeling. I guess you all will have to wait until our troops' 15 month tours to an endless quagmire end to experience the hope we are feeling right now.

Cheers, and cheer up,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

I prefer McCain's no earmarks and limit spending approach rather than Obama's class warfare.

Hack, you'd better start saving for a bigger tax bill now.

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if it means that all children are given equal access to basic medical care. And that does not mean in the emergency room, beeper. I mean well-baby care, doctor visits, etc.
However, we wouldn't need a paycut if Reagan and Bush hadn't spent us into oblivion during their "conservative" regimes. Let's just take a fraction of Iraq war spending and invest in our youth.

It's going to take more than a fraction of what we spend in Iraq to fund your Utopia. Honest question: How are you going to pay for all this after your savior has penalized all of us 'rich people (middle class) and all of those evil corporations? After you've penalized all the producers for being productive.... what's left?

Good grief... look at the trillions we've already spend on those that can't or won't. And the ROI is that we now get to support their great grandchildren?

I'm proud to be part of the "conservative regime" that employs the masses and creates businesses that prop up those that won't in this country.

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I'd like to see a health plan that anyone can join. Do away with "group" plans that exclude those that are unlucky enough not to be in a group...ie the self-employed. Now, the premium for the plan? It should be along a sliding scale from $7 per month to $350 per month to cover one's children, depending upon income and ability to pay. There should also be clinics required to be run by any healthcare conglomerate that also runs a hospital, preferably nextdoor to the hospital, that charge a published flat fee for a visit---- something along the lines of $40. $10 co-pay and $30 paid by insurance. CONTROL over the costs. Once that plan is implemented, we can shift the focus to adults that need health insurance.

I'm curious, how did you come up with the numbers?
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They just kind of fall into the realm of reasonable in my opinion, given today's economy. I am sure there are ways of figuring it a bit better, but for sure we don't need these companies like Aetna and Blue Cross, who post huge profits while our costs just keep rising, being the ones to come up with the numbers.

What would be an acceptable profit in the health care business?
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Perhaps the gumament could turn the airlines into a non-profit. Then they could move into taking over the oil companies. After that perhaps the next move would be to privatize the ag industry. Telcom is a good industry to target. And finally... I'm sure the perverts would love for the profits to be ripped out of the porn industry. Free porn!

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ohh... "porn"...sorry; screen was too dim

Kevin "Hack" King
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We are already non-profit.
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But to make you a really, really, really non-profit. Like one of those non-profits where break even is taken from other people's pockets to subsidize the non-profit. Like Amtrak for example.

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Just like "Amcrash".
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I guess we can go back to the Airmail Act of 1930 when government first started regulation of the airmail carriers. Talk about a disaster. It took 4 years before that exercise was deemed ridiculous. So the Airmail Act of 1934 attempted to resolve the issues and finally, in 1938, the Civil Aeronautics Act which firmly established government regulated practices. The airlines received government substitutes to provide service. The government also set the fares on all interstate travel. This continued until after the Airline Deregulation Act (1978) was the law of the realm and finally expired in 1983.
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You really, really, really know way too much about the industry sector in which you dabble. Perhaps after retirement you should become an expert witness.

When I go to that Air Force museum in Warner Robbins, I'll have to take you along as my interpreter.

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Is there more money in it? Ah yes, that AF museum. We'll have to take Hack.
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Health insurance and health care should be provided by non-profits. There "profits" should cover their costs of doing business plus building business.

I see. So I guess there are no incentives for companies to do R&D for new drugs and technologies.
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And who in their right mind would want to invest their time and monies into the massive committments of becoming a doctor or a research scientist if the profit opportunities are removed. Oh well. Fear not. There is always China and India that will rise to the occasion for us.

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The doctor that cut me open so I could give birth to my son "colon" was from Sri Lanka. I can't even begin to spell his name.
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We've got many a wonderful docs working in this country from overseas nations. My point is this. Knock out the profit incentive from that trade and see what happens to all our foreign friends. Make non-profits out of the pharmaceuticals and see what wonderful developments will start developing in other nations. I say let's take the profit out of our garbage collection industry to see what happens next.

Wanna comparasion as to how good gumament works? Check out the crappy job our county does at repaving our roadways compared to the private industries that compete for profit objectives.

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But what is to stop us from implementing a system where we still have a for-profit healthcare system, and also a system for providing free or low cost healthcare to those who can't afford to pay their own way.

We currently have a public school system that everybody can send their kids to, or they can pay to send their kids to private school. Why not have a similar public/private choice for healthcare?

I always enjoy chatting with you. I never get called a racist, a bushie, a fascist, a neo-con....

River, We do need to implement some sort of system to help folks with healthcare. The only problem is that there is no way that this country can provide the same health care levels to those on the dole or whose employers don't provid insurance or the self employed. The problem is that if we equalize the quality of care for everyone, then we will cripple our healthcare system and reduce the overall health care for every American.... and illegal too.

I view healthcare much like.... let's say the cell phone industry and compare it to certain newer medical discoveries. In the beginning cell phones were a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford. Then as the technology somewhat got on it's feet in some heavily populated areas businesses started utilizing them. I got my first cell phone (bag phone) handed to me in 1987. It weight about 10 lbs. with all the accessories, it cost me I think $600 dollars and the bill averaged about 400 - 600 dollars a month. Now that's in 1987 dollars. Look at the phones now. They give them to you and sometimes for a little as forty of fifty bucks you get unlimited service virtually anywhere in the world.

So what am I saying as to how this compares to healthcare? I believe that in the near future our healthcare industry will discover more cures for diseases, better and less expensive surgical procedures, better medicines, and even better patient training and information via technology. As these advancements take place and become more routine, their costs will decelerate or will become more affordable as inflation does it's natural thing. Heck, even Pulix gives away antibiotics these days and there are many procedures and drugs that are very inexpensive compared to what they were 10 years ago (Lasik & Claritin). I truly believe that many diseases will be cured and our healthcare will move from fighting heart disease, cancer, alzheimers, aids, etc., to merely preventively treating them at very low comparative costs. I see affordable healthcare for everyone in our future. Sooner I hope rather than later. Just like anything else in life, we must often wait until we can afford to aquire certain things. Quality healthcare being available to everyone is definetly in our near future. But, the time is not at this moment.

Good grief... look at our so-called poor now. Most of them own automobiles, cell phones, cable TV, food stamps, free lunches, healthcare (already), $150 dollar tennis shoes. It's just a matter of time before much of healthcare will become a mere commodity.

Remember this. If you guys penalize me and / or my business with another tax to subsidize healthcare, I'm dumping my guys into your program and rest assured Delta, AT&T, Georgia Power, Ingersal Rand, Kroger, Walmart and every other company you can conjure up will do the same. We cannot afford that.

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That's a lot of food for thought. Right now, "It's Showtime"! (as Bob Fosse said in "All That Jazz") so I'll have to get back to you.

How's that?

We gotta meet soon man!! I want to see if you look as funny as you are

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Granted Git has more hair then you, and I think we could actually get a accurate count on those hairs. Good luck on those dogs, if you do end up keeping them you couldn't do better as far as dogs go, I would take them but I already have two Labs that eat me out of house and home, and deposit huge steaming mounds of as Cal would say "Canine Manure", and I wouldn't take a million dollars for them.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

I had rehab today and left them in the basement unsupervised. Our XMAS tree is down there, fully assembled. Guess what the boy did?

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

That was real mean and uncalled for. Just to clear any misconceptions you may have of me I've posted a couple of pics that should help you understand how normally I really do blend in with society. Now eat humble pie buddy!

Here's a picture of me and Mrs. Git on our first date

Mrs. Git

Here's a pic of our killer Shih Tsu - Toldja she was a killer

Picture of my farm house in OK. It's decorated with a Native American Motif... you know beings in Oklahoma and all.

In honor of my new friend Carbon Unit - A pic of my SUV. As you can see I've many a gallon of fuel to burn before I set this beauty next to my farm house for use as a storage unit.

Can't forget the bloved Gitlets

And how could I not share a pic of my good friend Hutch

Ain't no way I'm leaving my other friend who participates in Triathalons. Cycling isn't the sport Cy is proficient at.

So come on over Hack and meet my aquaintance. I'll offer up my best.

And let you hang out with some of my buds

See... you'll fit right in.

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Had I known that your SUV was so cutting edge, I would have kept my big mouth shut. Why, the way I talked, one would have thought that it ran on whale oil and panda tears. One question, does it burn coal as a flex fuel (cleanly of course)?
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I just want you to know that warn't me, I ain't never owned a shirt like that, and that picture of Git warn't right either, he ain't never been that skinny.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Yeah, I was going to point out the merits of a two-tiered system, but didn't want to confuse the Git-boy.

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You aren't trying to raise you son Colon.

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I suspect that bits and pieces of him are in dish someplace.
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and I am not sure where to draw the line. I think physicians and surgeons and scientists and researchers should have an economic incentive to perform well and advance technology. But where to draw the line? I just don't think it should be drawn where the rich are getting richer while children in this country go without insurance.

I too have a problem trying to grasp the whole health care situation. But from my perspective, the government has a poor track record regarding health care. One only has to look at Medicare and its problems both now and in the future. On a local issue, look at Grady. It can't even stay a float without private money; and that is limited.

The other problem with national health care is the simple question of who is covered. Is it for everyone regardless of legal status or only those here legally and citizens? And if it is only for citizens and those here legally how does one accurately determined that? Finally, does anyone have the slightest inkling on how much this will cost. Yes, I know that several will say that the cost of the adventure in Iraq could be freed up and used for this endeavour but, is that going to be enough?

As for the incentives issue, any attempt to control that will only to lead to diminished care.
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Health Savings Sabotage

"This week, the House passed legislation that included a provision to require every HSA transaction be reviewed and verified as a legitimate medical expense. Democrats say this is to ensure that consumers are using their tax-free withdrawals for a knee replacement, rather than a new iPod. In reality it adds a layer of bureaucracy that could sharply reduce the appeal and cost savings of HSAs."

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

it seems like I asked this of you once before and did not get an answer. NOW you are accusing the Democrats of creating new bureaucracy (raising the specter of "big government" to scare all the sheeple into voting Republican). If they would not have insisted on this, you probably would have hollered about how wasteful the program was and how the rampant abuses of a "Democratic program" would lead to people using their money to by iPods. So "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"...this is one of those questions...no right answer. How would YOU make sure abuses were not illegally sapping the system without additional oversight? Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Are the Dem's, or are they not preparing to screw with my HSA? Please tell me they're not going to perpetuate more control over my already 'red taped' life.

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You are right. There are a lot of problems with it. I just would prefer to err on the side of provision of care. So what if an "illegal" little boy also gets a doctor visit that prevents an ER visit? It still benefits society as a whole.
I am not suggesting we shouldn't pay our doctors reasonable salaries. But that raises another whole issue. The artificial limit on the number of physicians, caused by the limited number of medical school slots. There are lots of highly qualified applicants in the US that can't get into med school. If we had more doctors, I bet we could find some willing to work in those clinics, at a reasonable salary.

So now gumament is re-defined as being a "non-profit".

Would this non-profit work as efficiently as our Social Security system does?

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It's real easy to spend 'other peoples money'. Isn't it?

So, am I to assume that you agree with the following statement?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

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But as to allowing tax money to go toward insuring children in this country have access to basic healthcare, so that they are able to grow into successful taxpaying adults? Yep. That is the role of good government.

Surely you understand that the confiscation of excessive "tax monies" is backed by more and bigger weapons which are controlled by the gumament. You have more in common with him than you admit.

Tell me Fascist..... How much of my money do you find acceptable for me to keep? What is the percentage to which, in your mind, should be the max that your party takes from me to pay for your healthcare plans and other proposed gumament programs?

Please give me some real numbers so I can budget for the future.
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are an important part of our economy and society overlooked by good ole Karl. Listen, I majored in gumament so I know just where Karl and I have ideas in common and just where we collide. I am not ashamed to have some ideas in common with such a huge intellect as Marx was.
How much Git? A mere 25%. As I said, if we all are in the same group, and most are paying a premium for the insurance, and the costs of basic services are regulated and controlled, the true cost to the gumament of the people by the people won't be so high after all.

I appreciate your clarification on the common ground you maintain with Marx and the intellectual aspects you have in common. That was obvious.

Now here's where I'm confused. 25% of what? Are your saying my maximum tax rate should be 25% of my gross income?

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Every time I try to get someone like the Fascist to clarify as to how much the government should be entitled to take from us rich folks, they always bug out. Why won't they ever clarify as to the amount they desire to confiscate from the producers? Did she really mean 25%? Or would she like it to be 35%? How about 50% or 65%? 70%? What is their number? How much should those with incomes of over $100K be required to forfeit? WHAT is their final answer? I'd like to know. They never tell us..... all they do is sit back and yell at us that we should carry a heavier burden. What is the number on the maximum amount of the burden they wish to impose on the greedy rich?

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I was answering comments made by Cyclist. Sorry not to give you 100% of my attention.

Git and I are like a tag team. Good Night
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Just took a break to assist the youngling with his homework. And, er, I am not the Fascist bud. I am the one that is sick of fascists online. If the shoe fits, wear it.
Yeah, I really meant 25%. You asked what I thought was fair income tax, and I said 25%. But I really meant that...no tax shelters, no wiggling out. And, I would impose that on myself as well. Believe it or not, I am one of those taxpayers of which we speak.

You propose a fair, across the board 25% tax rate for all Americans? I beginning to think you're not as whacked as I originally thought? You're much more generous than those mean ole Republicans are. For a flat, guaranteed 25% I'd even vote for Obama. Can you imagine how hard our domestic businesses could kick our foreign competitors in the teeth with a 25% rate? Straight across the board... no deduction, no shelters, and no wiggling out. I'm with you on that one buddy.

Uh... do you realize that if you do not pay into the 25% tax rate that you make less than $32,500. We gotta get you a better job. No wonder you're so mad. See what your studies in gumament got you? My lowest paid employees make several thousand dollars more than that with insurance benefits and they don't even have college degrees. We gotta get you some help. What are you doing now?

Yikes... you've called me a racist and fascist all in one night. Guess cus you says so makes it so.
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$42,651-$110,100 is the salary range actually for head of household. You must be tired, Git, you are making even less sense than usual. Your lowest paid employees are also in the range of $32K to $110K? That says a lot.
But I was saying that is a fair rate...nothing to do with the current income brackets, and nothing to do with my income. Just that yes, you and I should both pay 25%, without shelters.
I didn't call you a fascist, actually. I just told you to wear the shoe if it fits. I guess it must fit pretty well?
Take it easy.

It was the correct number depending on what your filing status was. So it's not I that "makes less sense", it's our tax code.

My employees are well paid. Go ahead and tell me more as to what an evil businessman I am. I'm used to it.

25% is a fair rate. Especially if we eliminate the tax shelters and deductions. Then think of how much revenues could be obtained if we switched from an income tax to a consumption tax and we were able to tax the illegals. Oops... shouldn't have gone there... now I'll get attacked fer sure.

I didn't call you a fascist, actually. I just told you to wear the shoe if it fits. I guess it must fit pretty well?

And just when I thought our conversation was starting to get civil with some common ground obtained. Oh well.... then I close with this: Good night and bite me!

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Be careful with throwing the "r" word around.

Good night tomorrow is coming soon.
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For some reason, I don't think they understand.
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soldiers dying in Iraq so that we can somehow attempt to save face; as we try to convince ourselves that Iraq is somehow ours to win or lose. Armymajor, I'll gladly write those tax checks to help balance the budget. I suggest you prepare to ignore thousands more flag-draped coffins if your guy wins. The "greed" and "I got mine" vote will have to come out in force for him to win though. To think he feels tax cuts are more important than balanced budgets. That explains two things in today's papers; the widening wealth gap and the weak economy. When will you "keep my taxes low and grow the military" guys get it?

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

All of the final three are Senators, millionaires and will say anything to get elected. Nobody is going to pull the troops out anytime soon because they don't want the blame for the bloodbath to follow. I pick the one who fought for our country over the two who never served anyone but themselves.

McCain is a war monger, worse than Bush or Cheney. Hillary is not electable. Barak has opposed this insanity of a war effort from the beginning. The choice is easy for me.

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I've been following politics since Truman - Dewey and this next election looks bad to me. The Democrats don't have enough of a track record for anyone to know what they will do if elected. McCain is old and military oriented. Bill Richardson was probably the best qualified candidate and went down early due to his appearance more than anything else. It looks like people will be voting based on party, race and sex instead of issues. God help us.

would make a fantastic running mate for Barack.

very easy!!

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won't be made by us. We just get to watch and wonder, wonder and watch.