Why not I’m not voting for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr

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2008 Presidential Election why not I’m not voting for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.!

National Security – He has no experience in this area other than intelligence briefings from State and National Intelligence. He is a first-term junior senator with no other executive level experience. He does not have the intestinal fortified to do “whatever is necessary” to protect Americans here and abroad. His election will be viewed as a victory for all those extremist that wish us harm. He will be viewed as being weak and soft, not a projection we need at this stage of the global war on terrorism. No experience, no backbone, no strategic vision or plan to get us out of Iraq except just pulling out all at once. John McCain has the experience and understands very well about what lengths people will go to harm us and he will take steps to take the fight to the folks that means us harm. With projected force, the fight will be in some place other than that of the American homeland.

Tax Reform – Obama is not for and will not consider a FairTax (FairTax.org) for the country. I will not say anymore except the tax system is broken, and the FairTax is the best plan and would result in huge changes in our economy and prosperity. He preaches change, change candidate for change, but yet he is not willing to even debate this change. I know of no group of individuals, other than lobbyists, a few IRS workers, and some politicians that would not benefit from the FairTax. Ok, I’ll compromise, we can keep the current tax code for all those working inside the DC Beltway, and the rest of the country will go to the FairTax. McCain is willing to look at the plan and Huckabee supports it 100% Its bipartisan support grows daily. HINT: if Obama was to run on this platform alone, he would pick up 40% of all registered Republicans, and Every Fence Sitter, let’s hope he is not reading this blog. Do your own research, and if you can find a reason to not support it you’re an idiot and should not even be allowed to procreate!

Will have another 4 years where nothing will get done, he is too liberal, his social engineering through legislation will slow growth and produce more autotrons who expect big government to take care of all their wants, needs, and desires. He is a socialist, who downplays hard work and self reliance. I don’t want government health care, he does. I don’t want more taxes, he does. I don’t want more government, he does. I don’t want government bailouts when people show no personal responsibility (Subprime mess) in this country, he does. The list goes on, enough!

Immigration – Simple, secure or borders first, then round up and remove “undocumented” or just plain illegal aliens, deport them, and invite them to apply for entry as the law provides. While supporting a huge “Guest Worker Program” that allows folks to work legally in this country, supporting our economy through a consumption tax on goods used or purchased while here. They return, home every so often, and with a record of good behavior, they get to come back again and again, while there resident alien status works it way through the system. Right now illegal immigration is a huge draw on our financial resources, supporting medical, education, and social services for this group. They think, get here, get pregnant, download a tricycle motor or 3 or 4 on US soil, and now they can’t get shipped back. Enough on this, Barrack is opposed to any secure border program that does not award amnesty (20 -30 million potential Hispanic voters) again social engineering, not following the rule of law and he is a Lawyer?

I have said nothing about race, or other hateful words to the effect, but I believe that if elected, anyone who opposes him that is white will be branded a racist without benefit of debate. I am tired of the “African American” title you are American or you’re not? This is a country where we stand up, proud of our heritage, but we are Americans. Either you are or your not. End this stupid ethic grouping and yes women, please no more hyphenated names. Use your maiden name or your married name, not both (Hyphen code for difficult to get along with or the b-word right off the top) Seems his wife got it right, she is not a proud American, she is what she is and I support her right to be disillusioned, misinformed, and her ability to say what she feels, but I don’t have to agree with her and I think we saw her and in a small part his true feelings. Do we really want a commander in chief who will not place his hand over his heart when colors are presented.

You just not going to get this (Black-Irish), (Angry-White-Male), (Appalachian-American) vote. I invite your comments and discussion, because the Shadow does not always know!

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Submitted by illumineer on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:25pm.

By the way, I have asked Obama directly whether he would consider the FairTax. He would and took a copy of the book from me and kept it with him while he finished going down the rope line. He is open minded. I have also kept up correspondence with his website and know that nothing is off the table in terms of changing the direction of this country. Otherwise I'd be voting for Huckabee despite his current standing.

The FairTax is not a Democratic or Republican idea, it's an uniquely American idea. As such, it will eventually be brought to a vote and passed once all the politicians realize if they don't they're out of a job.

What does Obama's middle name or race have to do with anything. According to a study just released today, we all came from Africa and African genes are the most diverse and are the most advanced. Where does that leave us poor white folk? Hmmm?

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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:27pm.

Oh now it's "You People" what do you mean by that? You spoke with him and he took the book open the flood gates Moses just parted the Red Sea! I think I was clear about support for the FairTax, did you not read the article, are you just brain dead? The study today???? The best genes come from africa, the most deverse, didn't Jimmy The Greek and Howard Cossel get fired for linking that gene / DNA! "Us People" are Just fine, its you I'm worried about! I hope you don't own firearms? Stay away from stressful events and stay on your medication!

Long Live Buckwheat


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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 5:49pm.

As the only one here that I know has some range, have you been deranged?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:29pm.

If Obama were to whole heartedly support the Fair Tax, then it would perhaps cause me to change my thinking as to whether he's a commie sympathizer and an adulterous closet gay after all. Eye-wink There Hutch... Was I in range or deranged?

Hey Hutch... I don't even know what my tag line means. Evil But, you have to admit that it makes for great eye catcher.

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"Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:40pm.

"Otherwise I'd be voting for Huckabee despite his current standing.

You might want to know that you have already missed your opportunity to vote for Huckabee.

More importantly, you are telling 'us' that you would support the most extreme right-wing candidate (Huckabee) but since he is not available you will support the most extreme left-wing candidate (Obama)?

Okay bud ... we believe you. You make perfect sense.

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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:35pm.

I have asked Obama directly whether he would consider the FairTax. He would and took a copy of the book from me and kept it with him while he finished going down the rope line.

The rest of the story....

...then he stepped into the Porta-Potty at the end of the rope line, stayed in for a while, and then emerged, smiling, FairTax book in hand but with a substantial number of pages missing.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:41pm.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 12:45am.

He not only "asked him personally" but hussein-obama said he would "read the book".

I mean really "he said he would read it" it's not like politicians lie or anything......

Now, here is a better one for the illuminneer:

I am actually twinkletoe the fairy of love and peace, and obama told me he is secretely glad he has fooled so many people with the empty "we can change" mantra. No plans as to how all of the "change" is going to occur, just empty promises of "change". That is where the magic part comes in. huseein-obama has actually contacted Harry Potter to see if he can create some magic dust to sprinkle on people so they will not be disappointed when things in fact do "change" ...

FOR THE WORSE!

Also when I met hussein-obama he said he would read the book on magic and witchcraft I gave him.....so I guess politicians are truth tellers after all......

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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:49pm.

...but I've spent a part of the day looking more closely at the Obama option, and I really do not like what I see. He is not the Anti-Christ. But he may well be the Anti-Patriot.

The Patriots lost the Superbowl in '08. Let's hope they do not also lose the election.


Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 12:52am.

Did you see ABC world news on Wed. night?? They replayed mrs obama's moment of truth, (from Mon night) ooopppps I mean mis-step.

I'm sure a would be future presidents wife doesn't really hate America.

Signed an American Jew, not a German Jew, or an Israeli Jew, or an African Jew.....

American is my country....and it is still the best country in the world, I claim it proudly. Unless we want to move we all should be proud of our country.

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 4:48pm.

go on his personal, that is his PERSONAL record. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


Submitted by D2 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 1:32pm.

"I have said nothing about race, or other hateful words"
So you identified Barack as "Barack Hussein Obama" so we wouldn't confuse him with Barack Jo Momma Obama? Does Barack look like Jo Momma? Does Barack talk like Jo Momma? Surely everyone who reads this blog knows that Barack is the Senator from Illinois who is running for President and Jo Momma is just a commom crack whore.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 3:44pm.

" ... Barack is the Senator from Illinois who is running for President and Jo Momma is just a commom crack whore."

I think that would call for a bathroom beat-down from Shadow08.

Cal, do you ever edit reckless black women with nasty mouths that call people's mothers "crack whore"?

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Submitted by D2 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 5:16pm.

OK TruthSleugh, I never called Shadow’s mother a crack whore. You do realize the names are not unique don’t you? For example there are at least 14 people named John McCain living in California. I concluded that Shadow included Barack’s middle name, (Hussein), so that we would not be confusing Barack Hussein Obama with Barack Jo Momma Obama. Barack Jo Momma Obama is a homeless veteran crack whore living in New York City.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:02pm.

You think that "Barack Jo Momma Obama is a homeless veteran crack whore living in New York City."(sic)And I bet that's humorous to you too isn't it D2? I bet you know a lot of crack whores in NYC, don't you D2?

You should apologize to Shadow ... and to the Veterans ... you can start with me.

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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:06pm.

Nice to see someone has my back


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:29pm.

I read this site for a long time before I decided to 'chime' in.

I have learned that the pure hateful intolerance and the sheer meanness of some of those professing to be 'liberal' by far an away out pace the 'conservatives' as the nastiest, most pack oriented personal predators that I have ever seen blog.

This 'sniffles05' character is the absolute most vile degenerate I have ever come across. Apparently he was already banned from this blog as 'basmati' in his first incarnation. He attacks Denise, ArmyMajor and others with pure obsession.

D2 was previously David's Mom and is constantly interjecting race and crying 'racism' and apparently sees everything in black and white.

Keep blogging brother. Enjoy free speech while we still have it.

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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 5:50pm.

Crack Whore?

The stereotype of a drug addict who uses prostitution to finance his/her habit, particularly for prostitutes who are crack cocaine users (often called "crack whores") is of someone whose health and perhaps intellect have been damaged by drug abuse, and who will accept any client for very little payment. They are often assumed to have frequent unsafe sex without contraception, thay are also known to vote democrate, raise taxes in a wealth redistrubution scheme, and insist on calling us the ones with a problem!

Ok, my mom is not a crack whore as far as I know! You might be right, but I know that she would not be in close company with anyone supporting Barack Hussein Obama Jr, there are just somethings even a crack whore won't do!

I included his middle name as it is just that, his middle name. All the really, really bad folks I know become 3 name people:

Osama bin Laden
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
John Wilkes Booth
Carlos the Jackal
Mark David Chapman
Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme
James Earl Ray
Ramzi Ahmed Yousef or Ramzi Mohammed Yousef
John Wayne Gacy - Clown Killer
Lee Harvey Oswald
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer
Theodore Robert "Ted" Bundy
Joseph Edward Duncan III
William Jefferson Clinton
Lizzie Andrew Borden
Richard Muñoz Ramirez
Dennis Lynn Rader
Charles Milles Manson
David Koresh (born Vernon Wayne Howell)
Henry Lee Lucas
Albert Henry DeSalvo


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 8:47am.

Smokey The Bear

Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


Submitted by D2 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:35pm.

Shadow, you forgot George Walker Bush.

And seriously when did anyone call your mother a crack whore?

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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:47pm.

See above, I never took the comment as anything other than funny! GW has done some things I disagree with, and some things that disapointed me, but no, his conduct is not at the same level. Did he do something do you? Please tell! You lost 7 years, get over it

"... the term "democrat" originated as an epithet and referred to 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.'"

The Supreme Court of the United States in the case of George W. Bush, et al., Petitioners v. Albert Gore, Jr., et al. Section II, Paragraph B. The very first sentence there reads: "The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College. U.S. Const., Art.II, §1."


Submitted by D2 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 8:37am.

I think the number was 187 US military deaths when Bush declared “Mission Accomplished”. If the mission had been accomplished why have we sacrificed another 3,800 US service men and women? Oh that’s right, it was mission impossible. You can’t capture Weapons of Mass Destruction that don’t exist.

8,000 American parents mourn the loss of their children. My burden is so much lighter than theirs. I’m only directly impacted by the $5,000,000,000,000 Bush added to the US debt in financing this war. I’m grateful my daughter is not one of the 4,000 who gave the ultimate sacrifice. I’m also grateful she’s not one of the 13,000 that have left arms and or legs on the battle field in Iraq.

I’m proud to be an Honorably Discharged Veteran of the United States Marine Corps. But I’m disgraced by Bush’s conduct. Let’s call them Enemy Combatants, then we can treat them however we want. Water boarding, urinating on prisoners, destabilizing the middle east, wasting trillions, yes trillions of dollars, killing and maiming over 20,000 US service men and women, killing countless Iraqi citizens, (estimates range from 50,000 to over 500,000), and destroying the United State’s credibility and image worldwide.

Yes Shadow, GW is a disappointment to me too. – D2

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:12am.

Back when you and I served in the military, and arguably since the founding of our Republic, military officers were responsible for the conduct of their troops.

Bush certainly changed that!

Now we have the exact opposite situation: troops are being held responsible for the conduct of their officers.

Case in point: Abu Gharib. With Bush's direct consent, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld implemented a system where torture was not only implemented, but encouraged. When accusations came out that troops were torturing prisoners, they were routinely denied by the military heirarchy.

They couldn't deny those damning photos, though.

So the troops in the pictures were sentenced to hard time, and with the exception of one sacrificial lamb officer (Gen Karpinski), the officer corps closed ranks and avoided responsibility.

P.S. didja see that the number of high school graduates enlisting in the Army last year plummeted to 74%...down from 94% just 3 years ago?


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Submitted by Mike King on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:46am.

While I must say that Mr Bush's loyalty to Mr Rumsfeld got in the way of removing him far too late, I believe that BG Karpinsky was the officer held accountable. After all, was she not the Provost Marshall? Were the perpetrators not prosecuted?

Granted, it has been some time since I wore my country's uniform, but to me I see no rehaping of the military.

Direct consent to torture? I would disagree. I view Abu-Gharib as the result of a poorly disiplined Reserve or National Guard unit that simply allowed bored young Military Policemen to get out of control.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:34am.

The Army has always been the lowest educated and least trained branch of the military. In fact, the Army is where you served your year is it not?

Speaking of reshaping the Military:

"Clinton's loathing of the American military led to his failure in his primary responsibility: the protection of the American people. His actions with regard to military preparedness speak for themselves. In less than three years, deployments increased while manpower decreased from 2.1 million to 1.6 million. That decrease was the foundation upon which stood Al Gore's purported "reinvention" of government. Of the 305,000 employees removed from the federal payroll, 286,000 (or 90%) were military cuts. The statistics for America's defense during the Clinton years reveal the deep-seated animosity of the administration toward those who served in the military. The Army was cut from 18 divisions to 12. The Navy was reduced from 546 ships to 380. Air Force flight squadrons were cut from 76 to 50.

While the U.S. military was used as a 'meals on wheels' service by the Clinton administration in its nation building adventures, the military had its own humanitarian crises at home on its own bases. The pay freeze instituted by Clinton was imposed on a military in which 80 percent of all troops earned $30,000 per year or less. Food stamp applications soared and re-enlistment rates dropped."

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:58am.

It escapes me how people like you continue to insist that the government you so wish to expand somehow supports " ... urinating on prisoners..." whenever we have soldiers in prison in Leavenworth Kansas for those alleged atrocities. Does the truth even matter to you?

Leavenworth

As for the United Stated "... wasting trillions, yes trillions of dollars .."

Get a clue ... even the daily KOS doesn't exaggerate that ridiculously.

Even if you are proved wrong - you will not change your mind - so let's both agree that the facts have nothing to do with your opinion, it is emotionally based.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 9:24am.

You remind me of one of those homos that became a conscientious objector or discovered an injury or that he/she was gay after you realized you actually had to do something other than just sit on your trunk and type papers for the C.O. in New York. (You mean you actually want me to deploy?!)

Thank God we do not depend on the likes of you to defend and protect our freedom. Meanwhile, the REAL soldiers are in support of Bush and his policy in Iraq.

So, how do you justify this:

"Sixty-two percent of active-duty respondents expressed some degree of optimism that the U.S. will succeed in Iraq , up from just 50 percent last year."

It's as hard to explain as this:

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 9:59am.

Your reactionary political jaundice has clouded you vision beyond all levels of civility.

D2 {who incidently is NOT David's Mom} is an "Honorably Discharged Veteran who has nobly served his country. I guess that you were one of those who had the audacity to attack Max Cleland {who gave LIMBS in service to his country} for being soft on security.

But don't stop there, TS, why not just extend your fanatical ravings to cover others also. I will tell you, sir, that I was a conscientious objector because I took the Lord's admonition against killing quite literally. "Thou shall not kill" There is not fine print there...unless the one to be killed is one with different political, moral, or ethical view than you? How often have you been called on to actually live by your moral beliefs?

Do you not believe that there are actually people in this country whose views on government differ from yours? Do you really feel that everyone in this country must walk lockstep behind your own warped view of right and wrong?

You have proven, by this post, that YOU are out of the mainstream. Support who you like, vote against whoever you choose. Write what you wish. Your opinion is meaningless. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:33am.

How hypocritical that yardboy, C.O., closes her/his blogs with "Democracy is not a spectator sport" when he/she believes that war is.

Yardboy C.O. states that: "I was a conscientious objector because I took the Lord's admonition against killing quite literally. "Thou shall not kill" There is not fine print there...unless the one to be killed is one with different political, moral, or ethical view than you? How often have you been called on to actually live by your moral beliefs?

(((By the way Yardboy, I am "called on to live by my moral beliefs" every day. Aren't you?)))

Here is the definition of a C.O., as written by a C.O.:

conscientious objector (CO) is an individual following the religious, moral or ethical dictates of his or her conscience that are incompatible with being a combatant in military service, or being part of the armed forces as a combatant organization. In the first case, conscientious objectors may be willing to accept non-combatant roles during conscription or military service. (But not Yardboy)In the second case, the objection is to any role within armed forces and results in complete rejection of conscription or military service and, in some countries, assignment to an alternative civilian service as a substitute for conscription or military service. Some conscientious objectors may consider themselves either pacifist or antimilitarist. (That's our boy.) This is not to be confused with 'Persistent Objectors', which are nations whose persistent stance against a particular rule exempts them from that rule under customary international law.

My definition is much shorter. C.O. = Draft Dodger. Called but refused service to their country.

Yet, this "thou shalt not kill" obeyer of the Lord's admonitions is supporting a man who supports partial birth abortion and denied rights to babies that survive those partial birth abortions.

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Submitted by River on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:40am.

This is starting to sound a lot like some of the personal attacks that were going on last summer.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:05am.

Who is 'Gump' and why does he have your same computer IP info? Is it your son?

The user basmati came back as "Sniffles01-05", were you the user know as 'Gump'?

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:48am.

Standard Operating Procedure.

Barack Obama has them shaking their tiny fists in impotent rage.

None of their petty smear attacks are working ("anti-Patriot", "coke fiend", "plagiarist", heck they even brought "Commie" out of mothballs) but nothing is gaining traction.

So they are reduced to personal attacks against those who dare disagree with them.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:13am.

Thank you for failing to be man enough to serve our country when called upon to do so. Your ilk would have caused even more grave damage to our country in service than you have through your 'acid flashback' politics. I am sure Viagra was developed just for the men like you who have to wrestle every day with their lifelong feelings of inadequacy after dodging your responsibility and avoiding your nation's call.

So, you say:

"I will tell you, sir, that I was a conscientious objector because I took the Lord's admonition against killing quite literally. "Thou shall not kill" There is not fine print there...unless the one to be killed is one with different political, moral, or ethical view than you? How often have you been called on to actually live by your moral beliefs?

So, you are pro-life and anti abortion? Or are you a hypocrite?

You are also a Vegan? Or do you kill to eat?

Did the Lord also direct you to support a political party that favors partial birth abortion? Or are you a lying hypocrite?

Max who? Are you referring to the guy that fell that on his own grenade on his way to a beer tent? If so, I voted for Max twice. In fact, I vote for whomever I think can do the best job. In this case - a man that reminds you every time you see him that you are less responsible for our freedoms than even David's Mom. Max after all, unlike you, went when called on to serve his country.

But since he didn't observe the Lord's admonition ....why do/did you support him? Are you a hypocrite in that regard as well?

I served and I am an honorably discharged veteran, does that mean I will go to hell for disobeying the Lord's admonitions?

You are one confused draft dodger yardboy.

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Submitted by thebeaver on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 9:21am.

DEMOCRATS PROPOSE SLAVE LABOR UNDER THE GUISE OF "MANDATORY VOLUNTEERISM"

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Barack Obama is a human featherball -- a slick, smiling, substance-free empty suit who excites gullible dimwits by repeating the words “change,” “unity,” and “hope” over and over --

Submitted by thebeaver on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 12:14pm.

This article provides some insight into how another Clinton presidency would look. This woman is out of control - just wait until she gets a hold of our hard earned tax dollars.

Hillary Spending Lavishly

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Barack Obama is a human featherball -- a slick, smiling, substance-free empty suit who excites gullible dimwits by repeating the words “change,” “unity,” and “hope” over and over --

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 1:53pm.

Why do you fear or resent Obama's middle name?

Are you afraid that people will dig deeper in to your candidate and realize he is an extremist? Don't be ashamed of who you support.

You have the right to vote for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, John Sidney McCain III or even Osama bin Muhammad bin 'Awad bin Laden if you choose!

This is America - vote for whomever you choose and don't worry about the middle name!

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Submitted by D2 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 3:28pm.

I neither fear or resent the name Hussein. I'm just curious as to why the original poster felt the need to include it. Is Barack Obama really so ambiguous that you confuse it with Barack Jo Momma Obama?

"Are you afraid that people will dig deeper in to your candidate and realize he is an extremist?"

If you're inferring that you would dig deeper based on a person's middle name, I'm not surprised.

If you're inferring that a person’s name predetermines their personality:

I’m assuming your middle name isn’t Einstein.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:18pm.

If you look at the sheer volume of posts attempting to smear Obama here this past week, you could easily deduce that there's a certain demographic that is absolutely scared to death of an Obama presidency.

They're posting every single rumor, innuendo and half-truth they can find, hoping something will stick.

Nothing is sticking, however, and they're getting a bit desparate. All those nifty Republican tricks of yesteryear just aren't working this election cycle.

People are flocking to Obama, they are just not buying the Republican message of all-fear all-the-time.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:41pm.

Sniffles101 is that: Anyone who opposes Obama does so because they are either A) A Racist or B)Scared to death of having a black President or C) Both.

Is that what you have been trying to convince us all of these last few days? So, political bent has nothing to do with it?

Hillary Clinton, for example, is a racist who is "attempting to smear Obama here this past week..." because she is "... a certain demographic that is absolutely scared to death of an Obama presidency."

Or, perhaps, Hillary Clinton is just a part of the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

As for me, an Obama Presidency does indeed scare me to death. Who knows what he can or will do?

I'll go with the former P.O.W. with a track record of doing what he thinks is best for America whether it is fashionable or not.

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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:24pm.

Plastic man is melting!

Please show me one " rumor, innuendo and half-truth" that I posted? I gave my Opnion, please good wise educated one, show me where I did this? you got the answers..


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 3:37pm.

Why can't you just tell the truth? You fear that voters will be turned off by Obama's middle name, Hussein, because it highlights his Muslim heritage.

I don't need to dig deeper, I already know he lacks the qualifications to be the President.

When I said not to worry about middle names.... I was kidding. You probably should worry.

You are correct, my middle name is NOT Einstein. Is your's LaQuenishia? Is your momma named 'Jo'?

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.


Submitted by thebeaver on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 2:38pm.

Even Ted (hic) Kennedy is confused with Obama's name...

Ted Kennedy Barak Obama Bin Laden

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 2:49pm.

why the American voter is turned off by "politics as usual". The use of innuendo, misinformation and down right falsehoods (The Swifties) are the regular stock in trade with the wingnuts, with a goal of making sure that the people stay away from the polls. With any kind of luck, the people will begin to catch on to these lowbrow methods and realize that they are being duped into voting for the yahoos that we have been electing over the past 10 years or so. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 3:16pm.

Clinton Renews Attacks
February 15, 2008
US News and World Report: "Hillary Clinton's strategists have come up with a new batch of attack strategies to use against Barack Obama in their battle for the Democratic presidential nomination. As reported earlier this week, Clinton plans to go negative to slow her rival's momentum, and now it's becoming clear how that will be done." [2/14/08]

New York Times: "Mrs. Clinton set out anew to prove that the fight for the Democratic nomination was far from over. Campaigning in Ohio, she pursued a new strategy of biting attack lines against Mr. Obama, while adopting a newly populist tone as she courted blue-collar voters." [2/15/08]

AP: "Clinton Outlines Plan To Crack Down On Corporations; Attacks Obama." [2/15/08]

La Crosse Tribune: "Clinton Slams Obama For Not Agreeing To Debate In Wisconsin." [2/15/08]

New York Times: "Clinton And McCain Jab At Obama, Who Offers Details Of His Jobs Program" [2/14/08]

CNN: "Clinton Sharpens Attacks On Obama" [CNN, 2/14/08]

Concord Monitor: "Clinton Attack Still Riles Some" [2/4/08]

Guardian Unlimited: "Clinton Goes On Attack As Obama Closes Gap" [2/3/08]

New York Times: "Clinton's Campaign Sees Value In Keeping Former President In Attack Mode" [1/25/08]

Greenville News: Ex-Democratic Official Criticizes Clintons' Attacks On Obama [1/23/08]

First Read: "Clinton Justifies War Vote, Hits Obama" [1/13/08]

Politico: "Hillary Clinton attacks Barack Obama" [1/13/08]

The State: "Clinton camp hits Obama -- Attacks 'painful' for black voters. Many in state offended by criticism of Obama, remarks about King" [1/12/08]
Read More

After Iowa Loss, Clinton Ramps Up Attacks
January 06, 2008

AP: "Hillary Clinton Comes Out Swinging, Politeness Lost Along With Iowa Caucuses" [AP, 1/6/08]

Los Angeles Times: "Clinton lets arrows fly at Obama"..."Staggered by her third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, the New York senator was the aggressor throughout a 90-minute session" [LA Times, 1/6/08]

Washington Post: "Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton tried repeatedly to knock Sen. Barack Obama off his footing during a high-stakes debate here on Saturday night" [Washington Post, 1/6/08]

AP: "Clinton criticizes Obama in NH mailer" [AP, 1/5/08]

Newsday: "Clinton sharpens attack on Obama" [Newsday, 1/5/08]

Reuters: "Obama under attack ahead of New Hampshire debates" [Reuters, 1/5/08]

Newsday: "After weeks of playing nice in Iowa, the Clinton camp sharpened their elbows when the campaign went wheels-down in New Hampshire, readying TV ads targeting Obama that were expected to focus on health care and his legislative record." [Newsday, 1/4/08]

Washington Post: “But she and her aides also signaled their intention to now ratchet up the race, aggressively countering Obama in the five days ahead. […] She is also now planning to draw even sharper distinctions between herself and Obama on the question of change, after watching voters who wanted a new direction select her main rival for the nomination on Thursday night.” [Washington Post, 1/4/08]

TIME, "Clinton Loss Means Change of Tactics": “Added another [Clinton] adviser: "You're going to see some very sharp media now." That suggests the next round of Clinton ads will go beyond the previous gentle references to Obama's lack of experience and […] Clinton plans to exploit every whiff of inconsistency.” [Time, 1/4/08]
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Clinton Comparing Her Opponents to George Bush
December 21, 2007

TODAY

"It is tempting any time things seem quieter for a minute on the international front to think that we don't need a president who is up to speed on foreign affairs and military matters...Well, that's the kind of logic that got us George Bush in the first place." --Senator Clinton, attacking her Democratic rivals. [AP, 12/20/07]

FIVE MONTHS AGO

"If you want to talk about tactical political maneuvering, it's about one Democrat comparing another Democrat to George Bush. That's the worst kind of tactical political maneuvering." Clinton Spokesman Howard Wolfson [AP, 12/20/07]
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...Again
December 20, 2007

New York Daily News: "Hillary Clinton Thursday hurled the dirtiest four-letter Democratic epithet to describe arch-rivals Barack Obama and John Edwards: Bush." [New York Daily News, 12/21/07]

Boston Globe: "Touring Iowa this week, [Hillary Clinton] has criticized Barack Obama only implicitly as she focused on showing a softer picture of herself as a loyal friend and tireless public servant, tearful old friends and grateful constituents by her side. At the same time, her surrogates and supporters have been increasingly busy sharpening their knives for Obama." [Boston Globe, 12/21/07]

Los Angeles Times: “Clinton toeing the line of campaign negativity” [Los Angeles Times, 12/20/07]

Talking Points Memo: “Hillary: Logic Behind Vote For Obama Or Edwards Is Same As Logic Behind Vote For Bush” [Talking Points Memo, 12/20/07]

NBC: New Clinton ad Jabs Obama, Edwards” [First Read, 12/20/07]

Huffington Post: "With the January 3 Iowa caucuses fast approaching, Hillary Clinton is now being forced to publicly disguise hardball opposition research and other bare-knuckled combat tactics." [Huffington Post, 12/16/07]

How far back do you want me to go??????????????????

Obama Gets Personal:

"I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal."
-- Barack Obama

Don't you actually have to have served in the Military to be on a 'swift-boat'? None of the democrats running this election have been.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 3:22pm.

LINK

Passing off someone else's research as your own?


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 9:18am.

You have spent a lot of time telling us who you WON'T vote for and why.

Why not take a minute and tell us who you WILL vote for and why?


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 1:22pm.

Nobama


Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 2:53pm.

Huckelberry!

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 10:52am.

This is your rebuttal to Shadow08? "...tell us more and be positive"?

So far you completely dodge Denise, Jeffc and My request to explain your plagiarism and now the best you can come up with to defend Obama when Hillary brings out 'Bobbing Obama and Larry the Limo' is "Swiftboat"! "Swiftboat"! Now even Shadow08 takes the time to explain why Obama is a 'bad choice' for Amereica and all you have is "...take a minute and tell us who you WILL vote for and why?"

We miss basmati. Although you are as crass and rude as he was - you are only a sliver of the man he was.

Oh well, Jeffc? Jeffc? Oh Jeffc? Are you here?


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:15am.

You seem to be laboring under the false assumption that I am somehow obligated to answer any question you might pose.

Sorry, pal. It doesn't work like that.

I've seen your type before. Constantly attacking, trying to put your political opponents on the defensive.

You'll forgive me if I don't play your little games. Or maybe you won't. Either way it doesn't matter.

You're not interested in debate. Three times in the past week I've shown you for the liar you are:

1) your little email with the distorted casualty figures. What did you do when I pointed out your deception? You accused me of bad math.

2) you accused me of comparing 8 years of Clinton casualties to six years of Bush casualties. Even the loathesome Conner found your lie hard to swallow (she's got limits to her intellectual dishonesty...who knew?). Your response? "But...but...CLINTON"!

3) your little grandstanding on the basketball score. You accused me of lying twice, until I offered you a chance for the both of us to take it up with Mike Boylan. Then you folded quicker than a cheap lawn chair.

Sorry my friend, three strikes and you're out.

I've noticed you and your Republican buddies are really quick to come out and criticize Obama, yet for some reason you folks collectively as a group lack the courage to stand up and tell us who you ARE supporting.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, though.

So you just keep on firing away at me, much like the guy who bangs his head against the wall. It feels so good when you stop, right?


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:30am.

Yes TruthSleuth
Jeffc's picture
Submitted by Jeffc on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 10:14am.

Frankly, I think Sniffles owes me/us an explanation. The original post made Saturday under JeffC is mine.

I assure you that I am not him/her.
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As for me, I say:

Accusations one and two above are the same incident .... and three? Three is you being wrong and not being able to admit it. Smiling that makes you 'o-fer' in baseball terms sniffy.

So, when are you going to address the plagiarisms of Jeffc that Denise, Jeffc and I have asked you to address?

I guess if you can't cut and paste it from Jeffc or your Daily KOS you have no original thoughts to post.

Typical of your ilk.

Batting 1000 and loving it.


Submitted by WaitingonPayDay on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:29am.

How about just the plain fact that he was raised in a radical muslim environment. Went to a muslim school and attends a church who pushes the black radical agenda. He has NO idea on how to balance a budget or run a government. If it was not for the celebs stepping up, he wouldn't have the fame he has now. Wise up folks and vote for someone who has experience and someone who can really CHANGE this country for the best.

Submitted by kreedham on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:11pm.

I had previously answered wpd's post but somehow it was deleted.

1) Barack Obama was not raised in a radical muslim environment. His father was a muslim, yet evidence says he was not radical. Contrary to popular belief,most muslims aren't radical. His father also divorced and left his mother at age 2 and had no contact with him until he was 12.

2) He attended a school that was predominately Muslim in enrollement but did not offer a muslim curriculam or teaching. That would be just like called Starr's Mill a Baptist school since most of the kids are baptist.

3)Check out: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp to see that what you say has been checked out and refuted.

As I've said if you don't wish to vote for him, don't. But don't lower yourself to distorting the truth or should I say lying.

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 12:37pm.

might that be, Waiting? Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:19pm.

So far as I can see, the options are like lunch at Picadilly: they all suck. So we are left to sort through the crap and try to pick out the least bad.

I do not think that the least bad is Obama.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:33pm.

Can't we walk next door to Backyard Burgers? I'd take that any day over Picadillys.

Oh crud.... Backyard Burgers is closed. We're doomed. Shocked

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"Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:37pm.

A metaphor for the '08 election.

By the way, the broiled, skin-on trout at Picadillys tastes like bait. I had it about six years ago and am still trying to get the taste out of my mouth.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:47pm.

Is their Turnip Greens.

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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:59pm.

You know, Lynn and I have spent a total of 41 days/nights together in the hospital since September.

Call me crazy, but I actually looked forward to going downstairs to the Emory cafeteria in the mornings for breakfast: bacon, scrambled eggs and cheese grits. And then a Starbucks Verona for coffee.

My cholesterol level has likely taken a sharp upward turn as a result.

I like greens, too.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:03pm.

We need to get together for lunch in the near future.
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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:05pm.

The rest of us free loaders will show up. Eye-wink

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:08pm.

muddle,

Is Lynn home?

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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:13pm.

Yes--when she's not out galavanting around with our daughter. Her recovery has been very encouraging.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:20pm.

OK, if you're partial to hospital cuisine. How about Monday - Tuesday?
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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:08pm.

What was the name of that place in Atlanta, the Brazilian place?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:11pm.

You mean the money on skewers place?
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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:12pm.

that's the one, all you can eat for just an arm and half a leg.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:31pm.

Cy said he was buying at the Fogo De Chao. I'm not sure that's the right spelling. Puzzled One of the Brazilian Steak Houses.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:38pm.

That's it. I had lunch a few years ago at the one in Sao. Even with the crazy Brazilian "real" exchange rate, that place was "doh rey me".
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:37pm.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 12:21am.

Can I come too? I love the caipirinhas.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:43pm.

See if sniffles will come. He's loaded with money.
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Submitted by Shadow08 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:50pm.

Bring Sniffles, get him to buy chow, then leave him in midtown with all the Transvesties (They need a lil PTC boy toy) and the colored girls go........


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:05pm.

Yep.

I would like to say thanks for the flowers.

How about the Emory Hospital cafeteria? Eye-wink


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:48pm.

EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:09pm.

Where's Jane been?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:12pm.

Perhaps she has the week off?

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:52pm.

It ain't like yur gonna get any quiche over here you Californy Boy. Eye-wink

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:58pm.

they eat mustard greens. Right up there with polk salad. Blah!!
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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 9:47am.

It tastes the same.
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Submitted by Tug13 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:32am.

I grew up on a farm, we never ate the stuff. I always thought it was poison. We did throw the berries at each other. Smiling

Now, turnip greens or collard greens with cornbread, yum!

Smiling


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:47am.

There wasn't much poke weed in LA. However, mustard greens and wild Liquorice grew in abundance.

You can have my share of the greens, including cooked spinach. Sorry hutch.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 10:59am.

Mustard greens? Yuk! I will take your share of spinach and the other greens. Thanks Smiling

Have you ever tried 'cracklin cornbread? I love it, but it's not good for you. Harold's Barbecue is the only place I know that serves it.

Smiling


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:04am.

Like liquorice candy. Cracklin cornbread - Did I ever tell you I have a large weight problem. Smiling
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Submitted by yardman5508 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 8:15am.

I believe that it is "poke salad" made from pokeweed, if I am not mistaken. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


Submitted by sageadvice on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 2:58pm.

Indians used to paint their horses with the juice from the poke weed berries. Our early Americans wrote part of the Constitution with ink from the poke berries.

Some, in the south, have eaten the very young leaves, boiled three times and the rinse water disposed between each boiling.

Medical experts find it to dangerous to trust that all the toxins are removed. Birds can eat the berries because their digestive system doesn't penetrate the seed which is the toxin in the berry.

It was considered a folk remedy, but it is not.

Many ate it because they had little else to eat. I remember those times somewhat. And like dandelion greens and mustard greens are pretty rough grub.

But hey, we eat much worse stuff than that----liquor, beer, mountain oysters, peas (many kinds), explosive beans, Mexican food (in Mexico),
Chinese food (in China), and many other things covered up with salt and batter.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 3:30pm.

Mexican in Mexico and Chinese in China, what a concept, positively cutting edge.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 3:37pm.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
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