MANDATORY SPRINKLER SYSTEMS?

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On Wednesday, our City Council will decide whether or not to require owners of private residences to install sprinkler systems within the city.
While I laud their concern for my safety, I object to them making a requirement for me that I should make of my own accord. Further, when implemented, these required systems will be subject to inspections by the City Fire Department.
We are not talking about commercial entities nor multi-family dwellings which by code should be required if not already. Many of the existing residences of Peachtree City were not constructed with sprinkler systems, and I would suggest that the preponderence of these homeowners would prefer to make their own decision.
The Council could certainly require all new homes within the city be so equipped, but the inspection criteria worries me. We do not need government agencies "inspecting" private homes. Would the next step be having the dog-catcher demanding to see if Fido's shots are up to date?

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Submitted by intheknow on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 2:16pm.

Mr. King,
Your blog seems to be very misinformed, regarding residential fire sprinkler systems. First you state that Council "will decide whether or not to require owners of private residences to install sprinkler systems". Council can't make anyone install these in existing single family residential structures, with exceptions regarding major construction changes to an existing structure, i.e. when the building department becomes involved. You seem to imply that everyone will have to retrofit systems into their existing homes, which just isn't the case.
Second, you state these systems would be subject to inspections by the Fire Department, which again is incorrect. The Fire Department Does Not inspect private residential dwellings, unless requested by the homeowner themselves or if called in by Building Officials, due to some type of hazard reported or found. The only other time the Fire Department could possibly "inspect" a single family residential structure is if they are already there for an emergency call, and something is found amiss, at which time usually Building Officials are called in to monitor the problem and follow up on it.
Only commercial structures are inspected by the fire department, and this is completed annually. Further, Fire Department Officials Do Not inspect the installed suppression systems (Sprinkler Systems) on commercial properties, as they require this be completed by private contracted companies, usually sprinkler companies, and that occupants or in many cases lease management maintain records of such tests.
Third, you state "many of the existing residences of Peachtree City were not constructed with sprinkler systems:. You are correct to a degree, but must be confusing "Irrigation sprinkler systems" with "Fire Protection Sprinkler Systems", because "many" is actually about 99.5 percent of the single family residential structures in Peachtree City Don't have them.
While I'm personally not aware of what is going before the City Council regarding installed protection systems, I am very aware of the benefits. Having participated in a study back in the early 1980's, funded by some insurance companies, and as I recall involving UL Labs, my previous fire department installed sprinkler systems in several houses we were using for fire training. We (firefighters) were paid on our off days to install residential fire protection systems in several homes, and then participated in the burn tests. It's obvious, as statistically proven for years, that installed sprinkler systems extinguish or hold in check fires 96 percent of the time - ultimately saving lives and property. Back when we did these tests, I remember being told that it only added about $1,000 - $1,500 to the cost of the home, if done while the house was being built, but much more if done as a retrofit. I also remember at least a few of my coworkers retrofitting there own homes with these residential systems following these tests.
I'm also aware of some municipalities that have added such requirements for all new construction, and personally know of one city that has had such a requirement for All structures in their city, for many years. An old acquaintance of mine works at this city, and recently was promoted to the Chief's position, which in this particular city makes him also the person whom oversees the Building Department. This city chose to put the Building Department under the direction of the Fire Chief years ago - many tie ins and correlation's, especially when building construction itself relates ultimately so much to occupant, as well as firefighter safety. This city rarely ever has fires, even with a daytime population in excess of something like 75k - 100k, I don't remember them having very many fires, but accidents, fire alarms, commercial building inspections and the like, kept them very busy.
Another benefit in adding installed suppression systems to a home beyond safety, is the fact that most insurance companies will recognize this in reduced insurance rates - ultimately paying for itself in time.
Intheknow

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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 7:24am.

This lawn supervisor was out on a sprinkler maintenance job and he started working on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom 7-inch gangly wrench.

Just then, this little apprentice leaned over and said, ‘You can’t work on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom 7-inch wrench.’

Well, this infuriated the supervisor, so he went and got Volume 14 of the Kinsley Manual, and he reads to him and says, ‘The Langstrom 7-inch wrench can be used with the Findlay socket.’

Just then, the little apprentice leaned over and says, ‘It says sprocket not socket!’

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Grandchild # 5 (the local)


Submitted by sageadvice on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 8:09am.

This gadget was very popular in the early 20th century. It was used as a universal tool--much as the vice-grips are now.

The problem was that in those days many people thought of left-handed people as being evil---otherwise they wouldn't be left-handed. That rumor flew around until left-handed Ronald Reagan and George Bush came along and dis-proved the rumor, I think.

The problem was solved, as I remember, when a sober Irishman invented a right-handed monkey-wrench that could also be used by left-handed people.

Of course the vise-grips can be used by either left-handed or right-handed people!

Spoons, forks, knives, etc,. were also made for use by both---however to this day a non-smearing pen for left-handed people has not been invented.

The Arabs write backwards on the page to help left-handed people, but now the right-handed Arabs are in trouble.

Anyway, don't try to shake hands with an Arab with your left hand---it is a great insult---as they use their left-hand for rather mundane purposes, and assume that you do also!

All this can now be squared away by genes manipulation, whenever we decide whether to go all left or all right handed.

There are already complaints from the Arabs and G. H. W. Bush.

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 7:36am.

STOP IT, MUDDLE...you're killing me.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by smartypants on Mon, 02/04/2008 - 5:25pm.

Hate to tell you but the State may require this depending on the size of the residence. This has been one of the recommendations of the National Fire Protection Agency. I know you guys do not want your homes invaded but if you do not build a REALLY big house you should be OK.


Submitted by sageadvice on Mon, 02/04/2008 - 12:47pm.

You need not worry about the fire department coming into your home and inspecting you system.
It isn't done now for the other code violations that our businesses have all the time. Or rarely.
The owner of a fire extinguisher company once got the state government to pass a law saying that you had to have your fire extinguishers checked every year and certified by special companies---his mainly.
What they do is dust them off---look in the end for mud-dobbers and charge you a fee. Then re-fill or replace every five years.

I suspect PTC would do the same, as they do now for wood eating insects.
Lets start a sprinkler and check sprinkler company!

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Submitted by Mike King on Mon, 02/04/2008 - 12:53pm.

Forget starting the sprinkler installation business, let's concentrate on the inspection company. This way we will not have to work!


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