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Although I support Mike, I do believe Mitt's recent speech was very well said. I do not believe that it was necessary, because I think people are swarming to Huckabee simply because he is the better candidate not because Mitt's a Mormon.

I do find it interesting that the liberal media disregards his whole speech, but attacks where he quotes John Adams. To paraphrase John said something to the tone of "freedom cannot exist without religion, and religion cannot exist without freedom"

They went crazy saying how crazy Mitt is for saying that!!

Have we forgotten the reason this country was founded? Have we forgotten our roots??

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It wasn't John Adams, Shelby
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Submitted by Sniffles on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 5:50am.

Hi Shelby,

The actual quote was "Freedom requires religion" which I'm sure came as quite a shock to those unchurched masses that still considered themselves to be free in America. Who knew?

The author of the quote was not John Adams (nice attempt to confer "historical gravitas" Sticking out tongue ) but actually some Grand Poobah in the Mormon hierarchy name Enzio somebody-or-other.

I dug a little deeper and learned that Mormons are indoctrinated from Day 1 with the core belief that "Freedom require Jesus Christ"...as such, it's no surprise that a lifelong Mormon might make a statement like this. Romney simply bowdlerized the explicit "Jesus Christ" to the more generic "religion" yet still managed to upset some folks. (hmmm...'bowdlerizing Jesus Christ' sounds vaguely sacreligious!)


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Sniffles
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Submitted by Shelby Barker on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 9:01am.

Wow, you may be right. Though, if I recall, Mitt cites Adams for the quote. I have looked everywhere to find in instance where Adams said that.

Someone is misinformed.

Huckabee 08'


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Bowdlerizing
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Submitted by Silence Dogood on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 7:20am.

Mr. Sniffles,

What does bowdlerizing mean? I tried to look it up. Did you spell it incorrectly?

Thank you.


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Silence Dogood -- what this word is
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Submitted by pentapenguin on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 1:37am.

Bowdlerize is a real word -- it comes from Thomas Bowdler, an English publisher that censored books for children. It almost always has a negative connotation.


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Another question, Shelby
Submitted by bowser on Sat, 12/08/2007 - 9:45pm.

Since you are the chief Hucka-believer around here, perhaps you can answer a question:

Why did he put the term CHRISTIAN LEADER in big bold type on his Iowa tv ad? What is that supposed to mean, exactly?

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CHRISTIAN LEADER
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Submitted by muddle on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 6:16am.

To be honest, I think it was a poor decision on someone's part. I find Huckabee to be an attractive candidate (his legs are cuter than Hillary's), and people here know that I share his worldview, but it just comes off being weird in a presidential race. Maybe it would be OK if he were running for the mayor of Mayberry, I don't know.

Signed,

Muddle
CHRISTIAN BLOGGER
______________

Let it be known there is a fountain
That was not made by the hands of man.


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Muddle
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Submitted by Tug13 on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 9:48am.

LOL

Tug
CHRISTIAN BLOGGER (who likes Huckabee.)

Smiling


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luckdog your answer
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Submitted by Shelby Barker on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 1:00am.

I am unable to answer on Mike's behalf, but I can imagine, being a man of convection, he was simply trying to convey his Christian believes.

Huckabee 08'


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Shelby
Submitted by Nitpickers on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 6:16am.

What is a man of convection?
I know there are convection ovens!
Can someone be convected and be either a Mormon, a Baptist, a Jew, or a Muslim?

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hahaha
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Submitted by Shelby Barker on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 9:03am.

Man of his convictions.I imagine he stands by his convection oven also.

Huckabee 08'


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Shelby please
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Submitted by pentapenguin on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 1:44am.

try to learn to ignore Nitpicker$, dollaradayandfound, d.$mith, Bonker$, etc. -- they are all the same person. Smiling


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Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 7:24am.

Now wait a minute. You have aroused my convections by asking someone to ignore me!
I don't care about you ignoring nitpicker, dollaradayandfound, and smith, but not me!
I agree some of those fellows stuff is really hard to know if they are ignorant or just bringing attention to a problem. We don't need such confusion in this time of the cell phone!
I have never been convicted by the law!!! I have never been a convict.

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Shelby: convictions
Submitted by Nitpickers on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 12:41pm.

I am still confused by "convictions."
A prisoner can have several legal convictions but I don't see how one stands by them.
Could it mean that once you make up your mind about something, right or wrong, that you never change your mind?

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Shelby
Submitted by Nitpickers on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 6:15am.

What is a man of convection?
I know there are convection ovens!
Can someone be convected and be either a Mormon, a Baptist, a Jew, or a Muslim?

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Nitipicker$ -- LOL
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Submitted by Denise Conner on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 3:00am.

Convection / Conviction -- I suspect that you're a little more perceptive than you let on. Smiling


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Nitpicker$ living up to his name
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Submitted by pentapenguin on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 1:42am.

Nitpicker$, you should be the last person to talk about criticizing someone for a simple typo -- an e instead of an i. Why are you always so grumpy?


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