So, you weren't there either, right? How can you "assure" me that this person isn't a child molester? I see what you're saying, you qualify your remarks with your knowledge of at least one of these individuals....however, you weren't there and don't know just what this "person" would or would not do.
Your remark "But who knows the truth but them?", is so true. Just remember, there are 3 sides to the "truth", the defendant(s), the plantiff(s), and the actual event. Somewhere in that you just might, get the "truth".
You're actually judging the "lunatics" by stating that they sit around and blog all day, well, you don't know their circumstances either. Maybe they are retired and this is their hobby, better than drinkin' and carousing while a 3 year old watches, isn't it?
As for me, I'm going to withhold judgement until it is all over. That is the "grown-up way to do it.

To begin, Jody clearly did a fine job with your education, considering that you cannot differentiate between they're and there or where and were.

As for your assertions pertaining to her innocence, I'm curious as to what evidence leads you to believe "shes not a 'child molester'"[sic]. Just because she showed you no signs of sexual deviance does not make her an innocent person. I wasn't there and I'm not judging her, but unless you were present, you are no more justified in your claims of her innocence than anyone else is in his judgments of guilt.

P.S. You only need capitol letters for the beginning of sentences and proper nouns and adding an apostrophe s to the end of a word makes it possessive, not plural. I realize this is nitpicking, but people will be much more likely to accept your point if it is stated in an intelligent, grammatically correct manner.

My goodness, if you are going to take the time to go online and post a comment to skewer the grammar and spelling skills of others, please consider taking the time to check your own--the last time I checked, "capitol" (as in letters) was spelled with an "a" not an "o"...big guy.

"considering that you cannot differentiate between they're and there or where and were" --

"but people will be much more likely to accept your point if it is stated in an intelligent, grammatically correct manner." -- Definitely!

alright first of all were her parents present in the picture? no. and second of all you have no evidence that she molested any child at all. this case taught me that you cant just listen to the news becuase the story changes. Im not saying that shes completly innocent but the child could have wondered into the picture. Lauren is a grown 22 year old, her parents have nothing at all to do with what happened; and i bet they already feel horrible enough having this case public, so consider what you say.

WANDERED! Not "wondered"! I'm betting when the 3 year old "wandered" into the area where the action was, he/she "wondered" what the heck was going on!

alright i spelled a word wrong ..
um im not denying that what they did was right at all and i of course everyone’s first assumption would be that child molestation was taking place but theres no proof. The kid first of shouldnt have been present at a place like that where that was going on anyway. Sure, it was irresponsible as them as adults to be taking pictures and whatnot with a kid there, but what they do in there free time is up to them and theres NO proof that the child was molested. I think they should be charged for something but not that, thats a big deal. Theres so many other problems going on, it just seems like this case it just a filler because theres nothing else for the ptc police to solve.

Gee... were you raised in the same ignorant village and culture that our very own OnlyRealRacist was reared in?

Yeesh!

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Her father taught me in high school in the 70's. I could wish all of my teachers had the character and dedication he did. To blame him is about as wrong as one can be. EDITEDbe assured that you will be in my prayers tonight and that I am hurting with you.

That's unfair and unwarranted to attack them unless you can claim firsthand knowledge of their homelife. A child can have a stable and loving home and still turn down the wrong path for whatever reasons. It happens every day.

petergarjanian,
Perhaps you know Lauren and have had dealings with her since you seem to know so much about her and you want to seek revenge on her family. You are a sick individual. You think that you can do a google search and know a family but you have no idea the pain that her parents have faced and how hard they have tried to turn their baby daughter around. This incident is just a spit in their faces by Lauren and I hope that she is locked up for a long time, however you have no precedence to defame the character of {{{{{{{{EDITED}}}}}}}}}. I hope that your post can be promptly removed from this comment section and I will petition to the Citizen for this.

Do you want the parents fired from their jobs?
If we did that in all cases of bad eggs, we would have a huge unemployment situation in the USA.
Bad idea.
That woman may yet be president of the USA. It has happened once lately!

In case you missed it $, here's what you said"that woman may yet be president of the USA. It has happened before." Now which part did I get wrong?

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Some of us have work to do, and you're making it awfully hard!

Did you read "copyright infringement? $?" by DWKK07?

"$, Did you copy this from somebody? I don't necessarily agree with everything in it, but it seems reasonable and coherent. I'm starting to think that one of the following must be true:

1. There are multiple people who use Dollar's ID. At least one of them his a raving lunatic - the other comes through with brief periods of sense.

2. Dollar is actually an intelligent and reasonable person who gets his/her kicks by posting insane things on this site in order to spur controversy.

3. Dollar periodically reads something on the internet that he/she likes and then copies it to a special document on his/her hard drive where he/she can keep it until he/she finds a relevant thread to paste it on to.

4. Dollar is actually a reasonably intelligent and rational human being - when he/she is sober. However, most of his/her posts are made while severely intoxicated by drugs and/or alcohol.

--- Any votes on which one is right?"

Skyspy's guess: "$ has multiple-personalities, like Syblil."

So that I can concentrate on my work, go ahead and answer this.

Lord, you make a living at it, not me!

But I acknowledge the author and cite the source!

$, you failed to notice that DWKK07 made the post, not me. However, I've wondered the same thing and asked you about it.

Did someone else type for you (and make sense of your rants -- what you call your own posts)?

You should not use the Lord's name in vain (in an irreverent or disrespectful manner; lightly and without meaning and purpose) -- the third of the Ten Commandments.

"Thou shalt not use the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who uses His name in vain."

I don't think I can be irreverent to you!
It had meaning and purpose!

How many name's are there that one can't say?
Is it a list some what like George Carlin has that can't be said on TV?

Great Jumpin Jehovah! That OK?
Allah!
What was the one the Vikings used?
Is Dios OK?
How about Lord and Lady Fergie?
Lord Mountbatten was a playboy, wasn't he?
Lord, help me Jesus to be good!

You're profane. You have no desire to be "good."

ARE YOU A GOOD PERSON? Answer these few SIMPLE questions and find out.

Hutch, Denise is right! You make me laugh so much it hurts!

Hi Denise! I think numbers one through four are about right.

Ok, I know I miss a few things now and then, but you're going to have to tell me which woman was prez of the US, it seems I have been uninformed.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Either you are thick, or you are trying to be funny.

I didn't say the former criminal president was a woman, just a bad egg!

I'm only thick around the middle, and you better reread your post, that might be what you meant, it ain't what you wrote.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

What I should have said : "that woman (criminal) may yet be President, a criminal (alcoholic, DUI, and snorter) made it as President!"

You cannot blame {{{{{EDITED}}}}} for this, they have two {{{{{EDITED}}}}} that turned out perfectly normal, one older and one younger! The girl has been messed up for a long time, she's a former stripper and coke addict. She had a blessed upbringing in North Fayette, I lived right next to her and her family was completely normal. If anything she looked down on the other kids in the neighborhood cause she had it so good. I'm not surprised by this considering what I remember of her. I just feel bad for her parents and brothers since they didn't do anything to deserve this and the humiliation they must feel must be crazy. My prayers go out to them and the poor little girl she subjected.

You can't be serious - blaming the parents for the inappropriate behavior of their daughter! She is an adult! What a tragedy that she may not have benefited from a proper upbringing. Wake up! Parents are not the only influence on a child's behavior. Some here may not like this - but there is truth in the saying - it takes a village to raise a child. This young woman and her friends are disgusting if the charges are true. How despicable to publicly cast a cloud on the professional reputation of her parents. I hope they have friends and family who are standing beside them during this trying time.

"It takes a village to raise a child." -- Are you referring to Hillary Clinton's book It Takes a Village?

The word village is a euphemism for government, and the concept of the village raising a child is the socialists' dream. It's based on the idea that children should be raised, guided, and educated by an assortment of so-called "experts," including teachers, counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, judges, and daycare employees, who, of course, know so much more than parents.

Actually, it is the family unit, rather than the federal government, that should make up the foundation of a society. This was the foundation of our country for its first 200 years.

I don't suppose that you've read Rick Santorum's It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good?

Maybe you meant, "It takes a church," such as Greater Exodus Baptist Church in Philadelphia and its ministries, People for People Charter School and People for People's EARN - Employment Advancement Retention Network, Youth Mentoring Program, and other ministries?

"PFP has helped low-income individuals leave behind their dependency upon welfare and substance abuse by providing education, job training, computer skills training, program certification and counseling. In addition, PFP has been dedicated to educating the upcoming generation of children here as well as assisting orphans and vulnerable children affected by and infected by AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa."

"Currently, the church provides food to 1,000 families annually, oversees substance abuse counseling, runs a ministry for people in prison, and operates a mentoring program for children of incarcerated parent(s)."

The pastor of Greater Exodus Baptist Church is Herbert H. Lusk II, former professional football player for the Philadelphia Eagles who was known as the "Praying Tail Back" because of his customary kneeling and praying in the end zone after each touchdown.

Citing the harsh criticism he has faced from liberals and other black leaders, Lusk said: "I've been called a sellout. I've been called an Uncle Tom, and the New York Times called me a maverick in the black church." Lusk said he welcomed being called a maverick if it means supporting "the original intent of God Almighty" in opposition to abortion and the "redefinition of marriage. . . . Brothers and sisters, we will not go down without a fight."

Lusk warned adversaries: "My friends, don't fool with the church because the church has buried a million critics. And those the church has not buried, the church has made funeral arrangement for."

Or maybe you meant, "It takes organizations like faith-based Urban Family Council, which 'exists to build healthy families by providing education about, and advocating for, life, marriage and family'"?

Building Healthy Families Youth & Family Development Educational Program emphasizes character, abstinence, youth development and leadership training, and parent education.

When I was growing up, in my neighborhood, you not only had to hide your wrongs from Mom and Dad, but all the neighbors too.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Life was better back then, but we didn't think so at the time. Did we?

. . that was my experience too! And please don't have the school call my parents!! Life was over!! I came up in the days when after a date - one 'parked' for a while. We parked around the corner from my house.
My father came by - on the pretense of walking our dog - and waved. (A neighbor had called) My date took me home. (Nice memories)

What a wise man!

Would you get in trouble if the school called? I would -- no excuses accepted (except for 1 time when the teacher really was at fault and Mom discussed it with her and told me about it later).

You can't even imagine!! The look of disappointment in that man's eyes would just crush me! He never had to raise his voice - and certainly not hit me. The punishment was 'the look'. I always wanted him to be proud of me. He felt that school was my 'job - and it was my responsibility to do the very best that I could ALWAYS! I would do anything to prevent the school from calling home. ANYTHING!!

$'s concept is more in tune with mine. The village that raised me included first and foremost my parents - then my extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins); neighbors on my street; teachers; members of my church; friends of my parents.

I truly am blessed that I never had to personally deal with abortion. I'm tired of people acting as if it is something that should be governed by politicians - most of whom are men. Let's also outlaw vasectomies. The creation of another human being is between the individual and God. Many believe that a human, made in the image and likeness of God is not a combination of genes, skin, and bones. (I'm not going to get into that discussion) I wish that those who are against the ‘murder’ of children by the method of abortion would be just as involved in finding homes for unwanted children who are being taken care of by the state until they are 18.

I don't feel that my interpretation of 'village' includes all of the above government agencies that you refer to. My family and community used the concept of 'village' long before Hillary Clinton wrote her book. Thanks for sharing your interpretation. I am for state intervention in a young child's life ONLY when his family and community have failed.

amen and amen. a village can help in ways a family can not help. ms clinton is correct and so is davids mom that each of us must help watch out for the children!

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amen and amen. a village can help in ways a family can not help. ms clinton is correct and so is davids mom that each of us must help watch out for the children!

The only real cat in town

It takes concerned, actively involved parents to raise a child. Not a bunch of “if that were my child” types.

If you can’t take the time and dedicate the resources to raise children to be respectful, highly educated individuals, then DON’T.

Breading for the sake of a Govt. cheque lessons us all. Try swallowing instead. It’s a lot less expensive and we’ll all be better off.

"Breading for the sake of a Govt. cheque"

Good grief! They weren't going to eat the child were they????

People! Proof read already! That is what the "preview comment" button is for!!!

He's a really bad speller but really good programmer. Bad is our resident geek. He's kind of an odd geek. He's a whiskey drinking, classic Rock lovin', criminal hating, straight shootin', pistol packin' and politically astute geek. But the poor guy just can't can't spell in spite of having Spell Check on his system. Be thankful.... they say if it weren't for our .45 cal packin' Bad our nation's computer systems would shut down..

What's this about them eating children.... Please tell me ain't so.

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It was pure laziness on my part for not proofreading.

Crow can sure leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Thanks for trying.

You are hilarious. You know they started the early-bird special all you can eat at ryans. Run along now.

The Village that raised your "Whitey Hating" carcass should be charged with a hate crime.

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where do you come up with me being whitey hating when my own son dates a white girl? what is your problem?

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"my own son dates a white girl"

That is as bad as the: "I have alot of black/white friends"

Oh now, you have really pulled th plug! If your intention was to blow off the lid, you just did it.

Uh... Gee.... Where did I get that from?

Could it be from your words?

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So let me see if I understand this.

We suggest that kids should stay in school so that they can get good jobs and be self-supporting, and that means we are racist???

Good one. oppps I mean dat be a good wun.

Sounds like we were raised in the same village. Unfortunately, today's neighbors, teachers, etc. are not the same as they were when we grew up. So sad.

The reason we chose Fayetteville is because it was almost as caring as the village that raised me. I see the young mothers at the bus stop talking to one another; the neighborly interest in the care of my 96 year old mother (most of them anyway); the confidence and pride that the community has in the schools - Kedron, Whitewater (and the middle school); and the support from my blood family members and my adopted family members. (who come with all shades of colors and accents). However I know that all communities are not like this one. People are afraid to speak to or correct a neighbor’s child today; there are children who have not been taught to respect and cherish their elders - and this is destructive to the village as we knew it. I agree - it is sad.

No, no. A "village" is just that.
We all help take care of and supervise small children so that they grow up with manners and principles.
Neighbors, retail employees, etc.
Right now if anyone attempts to correct a foul kid, the parents go haywire!!
Not all adults are "whooping" school principals, or head slapping idiots!
And would be less if given a chance, and punished if they handled it incorrectly.
I have seen this sort of behaviour in person. (kid destroying something, parent saying nothing, another adult tries to help by picking up kid.......gets blasted by parent, etc.)

Lauren was also arrested several times for drug possession in Fayette County and working as a stripper in Atlanta, while living in her parents White Water Home! Would you allow your child to continue misbehaving as an ADULT in your own home? Maybe you and her should be tied up in strait jackets and sent to Milledgeville... She does not deserve family or friend support, but rather public humiliation to make an example for all the other pedophiles!

It sounds like her parents tried everything they could to help her turn her life around like most parents would. She deserves everything she is going to get by what purpose would it serve to humiliate the parents. I was in high school in the early to mid 70's and I saw people with perfectly normal parents become the scum of the earth because of drugs and alcohol, you can't blame that on the parents and it's not your place to decide what support the parents give her.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Of course your statement about parents can be correct, and often is.

How about the thugs you are always hitting on? And their parents?

Their arms flailing all about, striking out at what they can't see, but desparately want to hit? You remind me of such a person. You're just wildly swinging and flailing trying to land blows on David's Mom, Lauren's parents, etc. Hey man, just do what I do.... Blame George Bush. It's his fault she had to strip which is where she was introduced to coke which is how she ended up victimizing a child. Let's make sure we blame everyone EXCEPT the ones who ACTUALLY ACTED. If we begin holding parents acountable for their children's drug use and underage drinking, etc. you will be condemning folks for every evening for the rest of the year.

Peter, relax, grab an O'Doulle's , and be glad it wasn't your child.

Kevin "Hack" King

There are worse words that could be used to discribe this. I know Barchi. She just came out of jail for some other discusting habits that she seems to be involved with. I can't believe the things that people do to small children and what is even harder to believe is that it always seems to happen in PTC. I can't imagine what must have been running the mind of this child. I hope that Barchi and these other sick people never see daylight again.

Half the people in PTC, and elsewhere, see movies with just such film.
They don't always show the kids but they have to be somewhere!
If it isn't R or X. people won't see it!

You won't find many here justifying any crime, even if it's committed by locals. We are, however, rightly concerned about the thugs from other counties (Clayton is a main offender) coming here to terrorize us and maybe kill us. We have enough local criminals to do the job; we don't need "help."

I don't care where a criminal resides; I want him to have a new address: prison.

of describing the judgements that await those who spend their lives here exploiting and victimizing the innocent. I just don't get it. I don't understand where the human mind goes astray and produces such twisted actions. I do know that child predators and exploitation are among the most uncurable of all pathological behaviors. Hopefully the "system" will protect us from these individuals further.

Kevin "Hack" King

Hack, the “system” has given us tools such that we can protect ourselves.

You just need to know how to use them.

Ball peen hammer, Vegas style
Chain saw, Columbian style
Hickory stick, East coast US style
Knee-capping, Applicable in most of the US
Low/High speed drill with 1/4” spade bit, Mostly US and South America
(low speed just takes longer)
Cloths Iron, w/steam, South America
Car battery and some wire, Anywhere
Boyfriend, Any Federal prison
Prison, Any country when it comes to child molesters. (there is a credo for such scum)
Open flame source, Anywhere
Bate for shark fishing, Works well off the cost of Florida

…the list just keeps going and going.

Hopefully is a weak work.
Apparently there are hundreds of thousands of these creeps in the USA, and of course elsewhere.
We simply don't recognize them very early in life and treat them or dispose of them by institutionalizing them early in life. Another thing Reagan did for us: close all of the mental institutions supported by the government. Pills might work if they took them, they didn't.
Now that is doing something positive about it! Lets do it.

I hope there's a special place in the jail showers for these people.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

They need to room with "the sisters."

Kevin "Hack" King

I was thinking more like big bad Bubba the gay sadistic biker, with animalistic tendencies

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Punishment with "the sisters"??? Think about it. If you're a sick sexual child predator that enjoys sexual acts with small children wouldn't you think that getting locked up with "the sisters" would be a dream for these pieces of you-know-what?

I want to see Judge Edwards yell out "Balif....Off With Their Pee Pees". I want to make them targets for A-10's. I don't want them to reach sexual gratification in prison. I want them to suffer and to suffer severely.

Don't reward them with girlfriends and boyfriends in jail.

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Can anyone give me a good reason why this is not a capital crime?? These people will never amount to anything and they can't be cured....so what(??), the taxpayers are supposed to pay to feed them??

That stinks.

Scotty you better not let these idiots off. Give them the maximum sentence. That is what used to make Fayette County great. We were almost always free of crime, because the scumballs knew they would get the maximum sentence here, even for a first time offense. Save your thumb-sucking for your own time.

Success is a choice not a birthright. Nobody owes you anything.

You know you need to work at Abu Ghraib or for the Egyptian torturers.
Just send your resume along with this blog and you will be hired!

We'll find the bad one's and make them wish they were born dead. Although I think you have to be an muslim to be Egyptian don't you? Otherwise, I think they discriminate.

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Is that a rendezvous in the shower with Bubba would probably delight these rotten carcasses. Each one of these predators need their sex organs forcibly removed and then brand them each on the forehead with a hot iron to mark them in some way as to identify their evil deeds and tendencies.

I differ with you. Nightly romps in the shower with their bunkmates would delight and reward them for their evil deeds.

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justice enough!!!!! Put them away so we may never hear their names again.

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I actually like Dawgs idea. Cast them in concrete tennis shoes and let our military dump them in the Mid-Atlantic on their way to ferrying supplies to the Mid-East.

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where you stand on the punishment of criminals!

"An eye for an eye" applies here.

You have to wonder how many other children have been violated and no one's around to stop it.

And then attorneys and/or judges get the perverts off or with very little punishment. Very sad.

Why "wonder?"
It is happening! Build more mental hospitals!

Whatever happened to that line of thinking. Years ago the women were honored and even the bad guys looked after the children. These days it seems like children were created for the sexual predators to use as sex toys. Use them and cast them aside.

I'm sorry. What is happening to our world? Where is the outrage in regards to how our little people are being victimized so perverts can act out their "personal freedoms" and "morally corrupt desires".

Shave a cat and paint it and you'll make the Channel 2 News while creating outrage across the state. Molest a 3 year old child and you get nothing form Monica and Company.

There should be a rage coming from our community that needs to be unleashed against these useless human reject predators. If anyone victimizes one of my children Git Real will be outed with a bloody vengeance.

Where's the outrage? What do we do? We mutter to our friends "what an awful thing....can you imagine... a 3 year old". Then we put that inconvenient and uncomfortable piece of news out of our minds and get back to important issues. Like sipping on a Star Bucks and trying to figure out what's happening between Federline and Brittney Spears.

Next...some chump like Dollar comes on and criticizes me for my outrage against those who destroy innocent lives implying that I'm some kind of terrorist torture fanatic.

Hell, even an Islamist has the nerve to hack the head off of a child molestor. We're afraid to lock 'em up in jail.

Phew.... I feel better.

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What world did you live in when we didn't touch the women and children?
They have many more rights and protections now (and need more) than ever!
Women have been sold as sex slaves, couldn't vote, had no say in whom they married, couldn't get a job, weren't educated, and rapes were covered up routinely---especially by family.
You are dreaming of what some preacher said!

Quit bragging about your family, Git's talking about the rest of the U.S.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

you do have a way with words. . .makes me laugh!

We're reaping the results of pornography and abortion and rebelling against God. If people can look the other way while children are being ripped apart in the womb, then why would they care what's done to them after they're born. There's a growing number of people fighting for the normalizing and legalization of "adult-child" sex, i.e., legalizing pedophilia. Academia gives credence to this idea, just like giving a top university position at Princeton (originally founded to train Presbyterian ministers) to "ethicist" Peter Singer who supports bestiality and post-birth abortion.

See The Marketing of Evil by David Kupelian (review at World Net Daily) and The New Thought Police, The Death of Right and Wrong, & The New American Revolution by Tammy Bruce (all available at the library) for more info.

Once men gave up their lives to protect women and children (the sinking of the Titanic comes to mind). I don't think that they could have imagined how far America has fallen, or how much worse it will probably become.

You are ignoring the Titanic facts!
Those passengers in "steerage" were the last to get off, and many did not.
They weren't even told early.
However the extremely rich dudes on top were personally escorted to boats. They paid more for their passage.

Read my comment on Reagan's mental hospitals, please, It is fact for many kinds of perversion and short-circuited brains some people have. Why do you think our prisons are such barbaric places? we mix
the misdemeanors, the felony convictions with the brain sick. White collar is another country club.
We do all this out of fear, not sympathy, due to cost to us.

disguise them and a few other as 72 virgins and..........
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Now THAT is just too far. Well...... maybe not... but maybe... not... but....

Kevin "Hack" King

Maybe disguise them as one virgin with 72 martyrs.

I yam what I yam...Popeye