Defending John Edwards

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I disagree with this guy on most things political, but being consistent means you stand up for everybody’s rights, not just those people that agree with you.

Here the syllogism for what is happening to Edwards.

  1. Edwards is a professing Christian
  2. Edwards is invited to pray at a Va Tech memorial service
  3. Edwards closes his prayer in Christ’s name

Sounds consistent to me, but the folks at The Politico don’t believe so at all.
Their site said,
Edwards has a perfect right to pray publicly or privately any way he wants to. But people who are not Christians often feel left out of prayers like his.
And if prayers are supposed to comfort, I wonder how comforted the loved ones of Liviu Librescu felt.
Librescu, a professor at Virginia Tech, was gunned down after barricading the doorway of his classroom so his students could escape out the windows. Librescu was a Holocaust survivor, a Jew, and not addressed by Edwards’ prayer.

It’s time for the press to get real on this one. If Edwards claims to be a Christian who is he supposed to address his prayers to – Buddha? Allah? a big rock?

America has provided more religious freedom and more tolerance of various religions than any nation in history. But doesn’t tolerance by its definition have to be in the ears of the hearers? Edwards should be able to pray to whomever he pleases and the advocates of tolerance accept this.

Surely, I thought, this is the press is reacting to an overwhelming wave of Bush and/or conservatives demanding that Muslims stop directing their prayers to Allah so as not to offend.

Wow! What a surprise. I couldn’t fine one example of this in the major media. There seems to be a number of people with strong internet search skills on this site. Can anybody find even one such example?

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 8:38pm.

Very good points!

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Smiling

If someone wants generic self-help, he can get a book or go to a counselor or listen to that type of message from others. There certainly are plenty of promulgators of this philosophy. Edwards does not have to be the messenger.

"To Whom It May Concern" doesn't bring a lot of comfort to my way of thinking. But, if others want to think that way, fine; just don't try to stifle a "in Christ's name" expressed by someone else.

Edwards should not have to apologize for the Christian religion, and water it down to include every other belief. Other religions were represented, and no one is forced to chose one over another (at least not until Islamists take over). I would not expect a Muslim not to pray to Allah or quote the Koran, nor would I expect a Jew to pray in Christ's name.

Why do Leftists get so offended at the name of Christ? I have an answer, but I'll let them try to explain.

"So, along with his prayer, I wish Edwards had included something meaningful about gun control."

To whom should Edwards have addressed his prayer: O Great Gun Controller Way Up There (and Hater of All Conservatives, Especially Those Who Own Guns)?

"Prayer is easy compared to actually doing something about gun violence."

Leftists begrudge the comfort Edwards' offered to these families and all those deeply affected by these shootings???

The writer also implies that those who pray cannot also be those who do anything constructive. But then, when Christians "do" something, people like Bas-MAV call us "Christianists" & want us to go back to our prayer closets and be quiet. Smiling

Funny how "doing something about gun violence" only seems to involve restricting the guns of law-abiding citizens. These people yell the loudest when politicians finally decide to get "tough on crime" (but, never fear Leftists, their resolve doesn't last too long, usually).

"I think deep down John Edwards is a good and decent man with good and decent instincts. He just needs to find them again."

So now Edwards isn't "good and decent" because he doesn't go after gun owners?

It'd be interesting to know how this writer defines "good and decent."

I'd be willing to guess that the only "good and decent" people are those who agree with his agenda. The definition of "good and decent" has no objective standard; it's just twisted to fit the latest Leftist mantra.

For additional insight, see a Lutheran Pastor's Response.


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Submitted by Enigma on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 4:34pm.

There is nothing new here. It doesn't surprise you does it Paul?

The hate of the liberal left is so intense that they ousted Joe Lieberman for not being in lock-step with the anti-war mantra.

The inflexible, intolerant, ‘secular humanist progressives’ will destroy anyone not in lock-step with the party line.

Look what they are doing with the military. Look what they are doing with scientists who debunk the global warming is caused by humans ‘sky is falling’ myth.

Surely those flower children of the 60’s turning on a former vice presidential candidate, yet again, isn’t a shock for you Paul.

Why you can’t believe banmani


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:11pm.

"The hate of the liberal left?" So who or what do I hate, Enigma? When you wrote "inflexible" (to tax increases?) and "intolerant," I sure thought you were going to bring up gay marraige, gays in the military, or gay adoption. That probably would not have bolstered your argument however. The Joe Lieberman horse has been a true talking point for you conservatives, irrespective of the fact that in a democracy, if you do not represent the interests of the represented, they can vote you out of your position. This is a very American phenomenon, and I feel certain you will see more and more of the "stay in Iraq" crowd voted off of American Idol. That includes Hillary Clinton.

"Look what they are doing with the military?" Enigma, ARE YOU SERIOUS????

Who increased combat tours to 15 months?

Who has sent soldiers back to the Iraq meat grinder for second, third, and fourth tours with as little as 9 months between tours?

Who has no problem whatsoever keeping American men, women, boys, and girls in the Iraqi Sunni VS Shiia war while admitting a "political solution" is needed?

You can offer better than this Enigma. I'll anxiously await that post.

G'Night brother,

Kevin "Hack" King


Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 9:52am.

I'm so sorry Kevin, I actually thought religious intolerance (of Christainity in particular) was the topic.

How foolish of me not to argue about the Harry Reid "We (YOU) Lost", Iraq War retreat line you wanted to bat about.

I guess the whole "Defending John Edwards" blog topic made me think Paul was talking about the attacks on John for his “In Jesus Name” conclusion to his prayer. What a daring departure from the lock-step-left anti-Christian media movement!

That's the problem of being a one-trick pony I guess.

So, did you want to discuss taxes and the Republicans versus the democrats? The Iraq surrender by Democrats? Who should run the war, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid or the Military and Commander in cheif? ("Elections have consequences Mr. King"...LOL... a little humor from a democrat for you Kev.")

You have to tell me the topic, unlike your dear feind banmani, MAV, or whatever his name is this week, I cannot read minds, see the future, or speak for everyone else.

Again, I'm sorry, I was trying to stay on the topic.

Maybe one of us should re-read Paul's blog!?

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Submitted by Mixer on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:19am.

You nailed to problem- they can't stay on topic. It's all going to be "avoid answering and change the topic" when a liberal wants to have a discussion.

Then of course, like Rosie O'Donnell and basmati, you either agree with them or they spin a personal attack and run away.

You will have to try very hard if you want to stay on topic. Once you reach the stage of logical progression, they wiggle and squirm and change the topic.

Great job once again of trying to keep them on topic!

Basmati (MAV, whatever) and his ant-christian ranting will be most anxious to avoid Paul's discussion!

Just watch! Smiling

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 1:11pm.

I understand that I fell from grace by daring to suggest conservative attacks made the Basmati phenomenon. I like you guys supporting eachother. That's a good thing. But let us be clear, guys: Enigma's reference to Joe Lieberman and "look what they did to the military" had nothing to do with religion, did it? No need to stretch to make your arguments. My whole post is calling my former almost friend Enigma on his wild accusations that spanned several topics. I guess ADD is contagious, but let me know which attacks to ignore next time, and I'll follow the ROE. Promise.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 1:29pm.

Okay Hack, I suppose that is as close as you are going to get to agreeing that the topic is intolerance of Christianity and not the Iraq war.

I gather that you think those intolerant of Joe Lieberman were somehow a different group than those intolerant of John Edwards in this case.

I am unaware that conservatives in America were trying to have 'Jesus" eliminated from prayer. I would assert that the liberals who wanted Joe Lieberman out, and want John Edwards to stop saying 'In Jesus Name' in prayer, are of the same ilk - liberals.

I am all ears though.

Show me the nexus between ‘conservatives', (neo-cons, right-wingers, or whatever you chose to call them) and the call to end Christian prayer, an assault on Christianity, or anything else related to Paul's blog. You see, the context of the blog is really quite simple.

Liberals are close minded and intolerant of others. I assert further that Paul's blog is constructed to expose yet another example of the intolerance of liberalism.

But that's just my opinion - maybe Paul can tell us what his blog was intended to convey. Paul?

I'm listening?

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Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 1:51pm.

You lost me on the list of insults banmani made when you thought is was "Warrior like". I think Tug even found you a bit out of bounds on that segment.

Just so you will know Kevin, no man has ever, nor will any man ever, grab me by the throat with one hand and the 'manhood' with the other. You can bet your life on that, I will bet mine. Just the truth Kevin, if you ever know me, you will understand. I assume you feel that way as well – but I do not know your background.

Choosing banmani and his personal attacks over the many of us that are sick of his slime is your choice. My only advice to you is to choose your friends more wisely. It’s free advice- feel free to discount it.

I don't know this ArmyMajor cat, nor do I care to, but no man who served 20+ should have been subjected to banmani's little obsessive taunts, personal attacks, and obsessive stalking.

Be careful that you don't follow the same 'higher than thou' trap you criticized Major of falling in to. No one likes a know it all.

I still value your service and your opinion. I just disagree with you on several political related topics.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 2:25pm.

It is unfortunate that you and many of our other conservative thinkers felt that I somehow choose one over the other on these boards. You forgot about my post to Basmati defending your service and honor and asking him to not lob personal attacks at you. You did not read the bottom of my post where I said "we are all on the same team." So many of you did not read that. You missed my posts to Bas that I would not get in the middle of his conflicts with you and many others. And by saying he and I are on the same side of many arguments is a factual statement. We are all veterans. Some served longer than others. And Enigma, the insults have flowed steadily both ways. I'm making an effort to end that. Basmati has to make his own decisions, as do all others. But if you don't like what I have to say, it is quite easy to ignore me. But I'm done mud slinging.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 1:35pm.

fit in? And Global Warming? Bro, you were all over the map, and you must not realize it. But these are small potatos. I'll quietly exit, and allow an unimpeded continuance.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Mixer on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 7:01pm.

It's a mental disorder called 'liberalism'.

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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 2:03pm.

I will try again to explain the exchange between Paul and I.

My comment:

There is nothing new here. It doesn't surprise you does it Paul?

The hate of the liberal left is so intense that they ousted Joe Lieberman for not being in lock-step with the anti-war mantra(not in lock step).

The inflexible, intolerant, ‘secular humanist progressives’ will destroy anyone not in lock-step with the party line.

Look what they are doing with the military (Harry Reid tells you soldiers they LOST the war - why? - they are not in lock step). Look what they are doing with scientists who debunk the global warming is caused by humans ‘sky is falling’ myth(not in lock step).

Surely those flower children of the 60’s turning on a former vice presidential candidate, yet again, isn’t a shock for you Paul.

Here's Paul's reply:

You've got me figured out Enigma

Submitted by Paul Perkins on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 11:05pm.

nothing new here. It doesn't surprise you does it Paul?

Nah-I was being a bit sarcastic. I'm normally such a nice guy people just don't expect kidding from me. Shocked

Of course, Mr."Onward Christian Solder" folded at the return of the results from his focus group and rephrased his subsequent comments to expunge any direct references to his Christianity. (Got BACK in to lock step)

Maybe he's like our Georgia weather? It you don't like John's convictions, check back tomorrow they may have changed as the storm clouds move in .... yada yada yada

Seems the blogger got it Hack. maybe next time you will too.

It's a "conservative thing" Hack, you wouldn't understand.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 4:20pm.


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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:41am.

Anytime you want to debate an issue, I'm game Mixer.

You present your side of an issue, I'll present mine, and we'll let everyone decide on the merits of our individual arguments.

Start your own blog entry, propose a mutually agreeable topic, and may the best man win.

I give you my word I will not be the first person in that blog to make a personal attack. I will, however, respond to personal attacks. Fair enough?

Whaddya say, big man? Up to the challenge? Smiling

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Submitted by Mixer on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:54am.

As much as you love to dictate to people what they will think, say, and on what topic, I am a 'man' not the six year old girl you talked to about sex (as you told Denise).
I will speak on whatever topic I want, whenever I want, and however I want and you can put forth the same tired liberal talking points and anti 'christianist' views you always do. Your personal attacks don't bother me basmati- they just expose you. Smiling

How do you like that?

Now, maybe you can tell $adayandfound what to say and who to argue with - he's in your intellectual pity party.

Sorry basmati, you are not in control and you are not in charge. I know you hate that Eye-wink

Don't ever try to tell me what to do again basmati, you will never garner my attention or time.

There, the best man just won. Feeling better?

Now go tell your husband what to do.Eye-wink

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Submitted by maximus on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 11:22am.

basMAV will try to get you banned and threaten a lawsuit if you bring up his “relationships” with children.

Maximus


Basmati's picture
Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 11:19am.

Don't be afraid, Mixer!

It's just poor little liberal me! A big strong manly man such as yourself with your superior conservative brain should have no problem besting me in a war of ideas, right?

Don't like the format I proposed? I'll listen to any alternatives!

Come on, Mixer, let's show the masses what we can do! You argue one side of an issue, I'll argue the other side. I'm quite comfortable with my ability to debate the issues of the day....and you strike me as the sort of guy who can hold his own as well!

Think of it! This is your one big chance to put me in my place! Just you and me, and we'll let everyone decide once and for all just who is the best debater!

I CHALLENGE YOU! Smiling


Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 1:06pm.

1. Do you believe in God?

2. Do you believe global warming is caused by humans?

3. Did you apologize for lying about Judge Whalen in your blog under his death notice?

4. Did you call a black man named 'OldSchoolFootball' on here a knuckle dragger?

5. What is the optimum temperature of the earth?

6. Do you think Bill Clinton raped Anita Brodarick?

7. Do you think Al Gore is a hypocrite?

8. Do you think Carbon Credits are a legitimate solution to global warming?

9. Do you know how many tons of pollution Al Gore’s zinc mine put in to the atmosphere?

10. Do you think the Earth’s temperature changes are cyclical?

11. How many bloggers have you personally insulted on The Citizen?

12. Do you support Cheryl Crow’s “one square per visit” toilet paper suggestion?

13. Do you think illegal aliens should be deported?

14. Do you agree with Rosie O’Donnell that 9/11 was an “inside job”?

15. Do you agree with Harry Reid that the war in Iraq is “LOST”? and that he should have stated that as the senate Majority Leader?

16. Did you really talk to a six year old girl about sexual intercourse or was Denise lying?

17. Did you really call Myword_mark a pedophile for being interested in High School Sports?

18. Do you believe we can win in Iraq?

19. Do you think that Don Imus should have been fired?

20. Do you really think you can intimidate people like Mixer with childish reverse psychology?

21. Did you ask Cal to censor ArmyMajorRetired?

22. Do you support censorship?

23. Do you think the nativity scene should be displayed on courthouse lawns at Christmas?

24. Do you think posting the ‘Ten Commandments” in a courthouse is appropriate?

25. Do you currently have a job?

26. Do you think Hillary Clinton lied when she said she was named after ‘Sir Edmond Hillary’?

I have hundreds more of these - would you like to answer them too?

Please answer these and allow me to keep asking more. I love studying warped minds.

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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 2:13pm.

1. Do you believe in God? Yes
2. Do you believe global warming is caused by humans? I believe humans have made global warming worse. I realize that nuance is most likely lost on you
3. Did you apologize for lying about Judge Whalen in your blog under his death notice? I did not lie, that was your little smear attempt. I pointed out that Judge Whelan was the subject of ridicule in the New York Times
4. Did you call a black man named 'OldSchoolFootball' on here a knuckle dragger? No. I called him a "slack jawed mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging Constitution-hatin' race-baitin' ditto-monkey". I stand by my characterization.
5. What is the optimum temperature of the earth? I'm not a scientist, I have no idea
6. Do you think Bill Clinton raped Anita Brodarick? I have no idea
7. Do you think Al Gore is a hypocrite? Somewhat. But not as much of a hypocrite as you
8. Do you think Carbon Credits are a legitimate solution to global warming? No
9. Do you know how many tons of pollution Al Gore’s zinc mine put in to the atmosphere? No
10. Do you think the Earth’s temperature changes are cyclical? Yes, and humans are making things worse
11. How many bloggers have you personally insulted on The Citizen? I've lost count. I have a very low tolerance for fools
12. Do you support Cheryl Crow’s “one square per visit” toilet paper suggestion? No
13. Do you think illegal aliens should be deported? I have no opinion one way or the other
14. Do you agree with Rosie O’Donnell that 9/11 was an “inside job”? No
15. Do you agree with Harry Reid that the war in Iraq is “LOST”? and that he should have stated that as the senate Majority Leader? Yes and yes
16. Did you really talk to a six year old girl about sexual intercourse or was Denise lying? Denise was lying. Put the story in perspective: My wife and I comforted a young girl who thought her mother contracted AIDS because the girl caught them having unmarried sex. I don't know how old she was.
17. Did you really call Myword_mark a pedophile for being interested in High School Sports? I did not. Those are words you put in my mouth. My exact quote was "I wouldn't go as far as to call you a "pedophile" due to the sexual connotation, but your propensity to fixate on the high school threads is, in my mind anyway, just plain creepy." I remain convinced that Myword_Mark has an unnatural fixation on teenage kids. But I have to give him credit, when he said he was going to leave here, he did....unlike you, I might add, who SAID he was leaving. So I guess there is some difference between you two with regard to keeping your word! Laughing out loud
18. Do you believe we can win in Iraq? No. We lost our opportunity to win in Iraq when we failed to adequately staff the occupation forces
19. Do you think that Don Imus should have been fired? No
20. Do you really think you can intimidate people like Mixer with childish reverse psychology? I challenged Mixer to a debate. I'm sorry you think that is somehow "intimidating".
21. Did you ask Cal to censor ArmyMajorRetired? I asked Cal to remove two libelous comments that ArmyMAJRetired made about me, and Cal did.
22. Do you support censorship? No
23. Do you think the nativity scene should be displayed on courthouse lawns at Christmas? No. Call me old-fashioned but I happen to believe in the establishment clause in the Constitution regarding no state-sanctioned religion
24. Do you think posting the ‘Ten Commandments” in a courthouse is appropriate? Same as #23
25. Do you currently have a job? Yes. Do you?
26. Do you think Hillary Clinton lied when she said she was named after ‘Sir Edmond Hillary’? Absolutely. That woman has no shame. She's almost as bad as you! Sticking out tongue

Just as an aside, I answered these questions as a courtesy. I'm not answering anymore questions of yours. You'll have to find someone else to live out your district attorney fantasy!


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Submitted by Tug13 on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 8:55am.

Enigma never said he was leaving for good. He said he was taking a break and would be back.

Your attack on myword_mark was "creepy."


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 2:12am.

"Most Angry & Vicious Blogger"

#16 "Denise was lying."

PROVE IT!


Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 3:17pm.

Thank you so much for your answers Smiling And I appreciate the personal insults - you managed to prove everything I have been saying as 100% true and accurate.

That was easy!

Look for my very entertaining comments regarding your answers (when you had one that is) coming soon.

I have to go to a couple of real estate closings - stay away from those 6 year old girls while I'm gone- okay?

By the way banmani, has anyone ever told you how easy you are to psychologically manipulate? Eye-wink


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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 4:07pm.

I look forward to your upcoming batch of lies and mischaracterizations of my positions. I'll be disappointed if you don't have at least six.
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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:04am.

*laughing* Thought you could get away with a little slur against Democrats and the military, didn't ya?

Hack called you on your little dishonesty, and true to form you SQUEAL like a stuck pig! *splutter* *splutter* *splutter*

Squeal, little man, Squeal! Laughing out loud You add soooo much to these blogs!
Laughing out loud
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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:05pm.

nothing new here. It doesn't surprise you does it Paul?

Nah-I was being a bit sarcastic. I'm normally such a nice guy people just don't expect kidding from me. Shocked

Of course, Mr."Onward Christian Solder" folded at the return of the results from his focus group and rephrased his subsequent comments to expunge any direct references to his Christianity.

Maybe he's like our Georgia weather? It you don't like John's convictions, check back tomorrow they may have changed as the storm clouds move in.

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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:01am.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:18pm.

Not come in the new and improved "Romney" edition? Where does he stand on abortion or guns and hunting as of 6 pm today? What is the current "family values" GOP press release? Is it currently at the publishers for revision? And while we're speaking of flapping in the breeze and trying to remember and revise what one said days before, what is Mr. McCain's current view on the safety of the Green Zone where General Petreus does, or doesn't ride/walk in unarmored Humvee depending on what day you catch ole John (McCain) talking about it? But I suppose you can stay on the oh so crucial subject of what the committed husband and loving father John Edwards did or didn't pray. It is interesting to me how the guys that actually are true to their families and live the American dream catch so much grief from the Christianists. But the guy who broke vows with two and has no admirable relationship with his kids is the GOP hero. Who'd have thunk it? Just remember ole Giuliani's words. If we mess up and vote a democratic President in office, more people will die. We wouldn't want our votes to kill people would we? Amazing. Truly, truly amazing.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:50pm.

Not a one of the Presidential candidates of either party gets me excited. I particularly dislike Giuliani for some of the very reasons you mentioned.

It's a basmatic habit to start a trail of guilt by association with McCain, Romney, etc. Show me one (just one endorsement)of these guys in my post.

One week here and you're reading all the above into one post?

If Edwards had stood his ground, I would be first in line to commend him for it.

(BTW-everyone in our house wishes his wife the best in her battle with cancer.)

How about showing me how taking up for the guy's religious freedom equals an unqualified endorsement of the other party's candidates?

Does it occur to you that some people don't fit into your preconceived pigeonholes? Or everyone who disagrees with have to register with the Republican party?

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:59pm.

I'm sorry. I guess the criticism of John Edwards and the Ronald Reagan quote somehow threw me off. It will be interesting to get to know you.

Cheers, Paul

Kevin "Hack" King


Enigma's picture
Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:04am.

Just say 'No' to emotive thinking.

Try this process:

Read, Investigate, Comprehend, Understand, Reflect, Evaluate, and Decide.

Welcome to the light.

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Submitted by maximus on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:36am.

"Read, Investigate, Comprehend, Understand, Reflect, Evaluate, and Decide"? Come on, Enigma, that takes way too much energy. It's easier just to sling as much mud as you can and walk away. That's why it's the liberal MO.

Maximus


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Submitted by Mixer on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:42am.

As usual, you are right on target. We call them 'EMO's' Eye-wink

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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 11:19pm.

The Reagan quote was for Lion's post more than anything else. JFK and Reagan could say it like few others. Below is one of the best.

Makes you glad human rights aren't granted by Washington. Smiling

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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:48pm.

Not a one of the Presidential candidates of either party gets me excited. I particularly dislike Giuliani for some of the very reasons you mentioned.

It's a basmatic habit to start a trail of guilt by association with McCain, Romney, etc. Show me one (just one endorsement)of these guys in my post.

One week here and you're reading all the above into one post?

If Edwards had stood his ground, I would be first in line to commend him for it.

(BTW-everyone in our house wishes his wife the best in her battle with cancer.)

How about showing me how taking up for the guy's religious freedom equals an unqualified endorsement of the other party's candidates?

Does it occur to you that some people don't fit into your preconceived pigeonholes? Or everyone who disagrees with have to register with the Republican party?

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Submitted by Mixer on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 10:21am.

It's them making up new lines and new topics as the discussion approaches the truth that you have to watch for Eye-wink

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