what you got against Tug dollar? It's not her with the bible scripture and I think you know that but you don't miss a chance to dog her, what's the story here?

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Hutch, I have no idea what I've done to dollar. I don't know what he means about the bible comments. I don't have time to read everything on here.
I guess maybe he doesn't like my name. You think????

Tug13

It had nothing to do with you and the Bible. I think that is someone called Denise. It WAS poorly written, however, but only meant: what happened to you?

I've been around.

I'm glad I didn't say that

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That didn't sound right, did it?
I'll start over. All's well here!

As I was driving home last night at 1230AM. I spotted the tell tail prone feline on Robinson near PT PKWY. I looped around to render aid, which got the attention of one of PTC's finest, only to find the kitty beyond dead. Interestingly, there was a dead mouse right beside the cat. honest. Just knowing he died in the thrill of the chase makes the pain easier to handle.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

You say the mouse got it too huh? That car must have been hauling serious bu-tay.

Speaking of getting two at once: Don't you ever wonder when you see 'Dolphin Free' Tuna how the Tuna must feel?

I bet they would opt for Tuna Free Tuna - if they had a choice.

I wonder if they sell 'Tuna Free Dolphin" somewhere?

We're all tired of this byzantine discussion between The Rice and the Doctor. Pure megatrivia!
Discussion has degenerated into uncountable quotes, Internet links and bibliographical references to books that either do not exist or nobody has heard of. I have to admire the capacity for writing dong that these two characters have. I tend to agree more with Basmati, maybe out of admiration for cutting the legs and retiring the Retired Army Major, another "major" nuisance. Don't get me wrong, I am not intolerant, but these two characters have hijacked this blogging site with all this discussion around Christianists, Communists, Republicanists, etc, etc.

Give us a break!!

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I wouldn't have guessed it though.

You know what, you can always just NOT READ the posts.

Wouldn't want to tax your brain with more than idle chit-chat.

Please note that this is Basmati's blog about Christianity.

You might want to hang out on dollaradayandfound's blog pages. Seems more your level.

But, then again, even some of those are probably too long for you.
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Out! Out! You demons of stupidity!

In addition to Christianists, Communists, Republicanists, etc, etc., you forgot the Democratists. You guys are pretty strong on this site too.

Now your list of evil entities is complete.

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Interesting attempt at impeaching a source, Denise.

If I'm understanding you correctly, your unstated premise is that Andrew Sullivan cannot possibly be a "conservative" because he is *gasp* a homosexual male. Does the term "log cabin republican" have any special resonance with you?

You point out correctly that Sullivan said that Republicans didn't deserve to win the mid-term elections last year. I'd like to mention that other prominent conservatives, such as George Will and Pat Buchanan, were also of that opinion.

I'll leave it to your superior research skills to determine the sexuality of those two men.

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"I'll leave it to your superior research skills to determine the sexuality of those two men."

My this topic does seem to come up a lot between us, doesn't it?

I question Sullivan's CONSISTENCY, a problem that he seems to have by SAYING that he's conservative but DOING the opposite by endorsing Clinton, Kerry, etc.

I always find it interesting that those who scream "intolerance" the loudest are often so intolerant themselves.

Sullivan openly talks about his "preferences"; therefore, the topic is open for analysis.

I question Sullivan's judgment, especially as it relates to the health of others.

Your problem is with the standard that we all are subject to.

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Denise, you said "Sullivan openly talks about his "preferences"; therefore, the topic is open for analysis."

It may be "open for analysis", but I seem to be missing something here, to wit, how is an author's stated sexual preference germane to the original topic (particularly since it didn't come up in the original article in question)?

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To quote 3 famous men:

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness — these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity.

Let it simply be asked, "where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice?"

It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule indeed extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who that is a sincere friend to it can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?

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"That I am not a member of any Christian Church, is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures; and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general, or of any denomination of Christians in particular . . . . I do not think I could, myself, be brought to support a man for office whom I knew to be an open enemy of, and scoffer at, religion. Leaving the higher matter of eternal consequences between him and his Maker, I still do not think any man has the right thus to insult the feelings, and injure the morals, of the community in which he may live."

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We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.

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Religion, in its most comprehensive sense, includes a belief in the being and perfections of God, in the revelation of his will to man, in man's obligation to obey his commands, in a state of reward and punishment, and in man's accountableness to God; and also true godliness or piety of life, with the practice of all moral duties. It therefore comprehends theology, as a system of doctrines or principles, as well as practical piety; for the practice of moral duties without a belief in a divine lawgiver, and without reference to his will or commands, is not religion.

Religion, as distinct from virtue, or morality, consists in the performance of the duties we owe directly to God, from a principle of obedience to his will. Hence we often speak of religion and virtue, as different branches of one system, or the duties of the first and second tables of the law.

Let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion.

Virtue: Moral goodness; the practice of moral duties and the abstaining from vice, or a conformity of life and conversation to the moral law.

Morality: The quality of an action which renders it good; the conformity of an act to the divine law, or to the principles of rectitude. This conformity implies that the act must be performed by a free agent, and from a motive of obedience to the divine will.

Webster's 1828 Dictionary

Lurid sensationalism cheapens your argument, as does indiscriminate cut and paste with seemingly random bold words. I'm sure everyone here is capable of reading a dictionary, it's more than a little condescending and quite tiresome when you to cut and paste dictionary definitions.

Back on subject here: you now know that the author of the article I cited is a male homosexual, thanks to the wonderful combination of Google and Wikipedia. Does this somehow invalidate his premise?

I'd like an answer in your own words sans cut and paste this time, if you please.
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I've asked you a simple question, you've responded three times to my single post but have yet to address the question I asked:

Does someone's sexual preference have any bearing in this discussion? Specifically, should we discount someone's comments because of their sexuality?

No cut and pastes, no theory of boldface, no nanoparsing, Denise. Let's here what YOU think.

Answer the question, if you can. Shouldn't be much trouble for someone like you with your superior intellect, right?
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I have attempted to answer you multiple times. One’s morality does have a lot of “bearing in this discussion.” Your inability to comprehend the connection doesn't mean that I haven't answered you.

FYI, quoting others is to give further mental stimulus to the discussion.

Did you not quote Andrew Sullivan as the basis for your use of the term “Christianist”?

Your real gripe: You just don’t like the quotes that I choose to give added dimension to the debate, such as Andrew Sullivan’s own words about his lifestyle - his manner of living that reflects the attitudes and values - worldview - of “gays.” In public health, "lifestyle" generally means a pattern of individual practices and personal behavioral choices that are related to elevated or reduced health risk, i.e., “safe sex.”

To Sullivan, "The feminized men of 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' and 'Queer as Folk' do not represent the maturing gay male culture. The truth is much hairier."

Now, if conservative Republicans (rather than a semi-Republican) dared to call men “feminized,” what would be the media’s response? I see a double standard here.

[Bears] "don't know what cologne is and they tend not to wear deodorant. One mode of interaction is the occasional sniff of each others' armpits. Nature's narcotic."

Environmentalist, I guess.

"I was flattered at first. A burly, stubbled, broad-shouldered man, who could barely keep tufts of hair from sprouting from under his T-shirt corners, leered at me across the bar. He was drunk, alas. But it was five minutes to closing and this was Provincetown in July. "You know what I think is so XXXX hot about you?" he ventured. I batted my eyelashes. "Your pot-belly, man," he went on. "It's so XXXX hot." [The magazine uses the actual foul language.] Then he reached over and rubbed."

Maybe he should submit this for a new prime-time TV show.

“I am bear, hear me roar!”

Mr. Sullivan’s "lifestyle" does seem to tarnish his position of moral authority to judge others. Wasn’t that the basis of the Left’s outrage against Ted Haggard? The male prostitute who “outed” Haggard suddenly remembered his patriotic duty to expose Haggard’s “hypocrisy” mere days before the Nov. 7 election. Haggard supported Colorado’s amendment banning same-sex marriage and taking him down would likely defeat its passage.

I thought that among homosexuals “outing” was a mortal sin (for the less religiously inclined, a hate crime), but I guess it’s OK if it brings down someone who has political influence. Then, of course, there was Mark Foley who’s “outing” forced him to resign from Congress very close to the November elections. Seems extremely coincidental to me.

(BTW, as I’ve stated before, I agree with God’s views about morality – as stated in the Bible - and in no way condone promiscuity, Republican or Democrat or otherwise.)

Basmati, I’m appalled at your attempts to stifle my freedom of expression, as guaranteed by the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

Everyone has the right to opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Why, even Turkey claims to agree with this!

However, your dictatorial “no cut and pastes, no theory [?] of boldface, no nanoparsing” will not determine my response. Unlike John Edwards, you do not get to frame the debate in your “inflexible doctrinaire” terms – you don’t make the rules here.

Actually, aren’t you the one, instead of “Christianists,” who wants to “dictate the laws for everyone, Christian and non-Christian alike”? (emphasis added by you in your original post)

“Nanoparsing”? Is that a word you’ve coined?

By parse, which one of the following do you mean?

1. To break (a sentence) down into its component parts of speech with an explanation of the form, function, and syntactical relationship of each part.

2. To describe (a word) by stating its part of speech, form, and syntactical relationships in a sentence. In linguistics, to parse is to divide words and phrases into different parts in order to understand relationships and meaning.

Although I can definitely do both of these functions, I’ve not parsed your posts; but if you’d like help with a letter to the editor or a magazine article, I might be able to help you.

3. To examine closely in an orderly way or subject to detailed analysis, especially by breaking up into components; to analyze critically.

4. To make sense of; comprehend. In general, to parse someone's writing or speech simply means to interpret it.

No. 3 & 4 haven’t taken too much of my time with your writing, but all critical analysis is certainly a worthwhile endeavor.

5. To break down a string of information such as a command or file into its constituent parts; analysis of the grammar and structure of a computer language (like SQL).

It’s been a while since my computer science classes, so I wouldn’t even try. I could pass your posts along to a programmer, if you like.

Although you cannot “here” what I think, perhaps you might want to parse [examine closely] my other posts to improve your comprehension.

Here’s a suggestion for you:

Critical Thinking

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More on "discount[ing]someone's comments" later. I can definitely answer your questions,
or, at least I will try.

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You have banmani figured out Denise. Now you know why we all ignore banmani the censor.

By the way, you absolutely mentally pummeled and psychologically dismantled the racist little rice queen - as many of us have done in the past. Well done!

Since she accuses me of making racist comments, maybe you can be the token homophobe and she can beg, cry and attempt to have us banned like she did the good Major!

Good morning, Denise. First of all, you should rest assured that as long as you are posting on The Citizen, I will not feel inferior. Quite the opposite, in fact.

I appreciate your latest attempt to explain how an author's sexuality has a bearing on a discussion. I believe that most casual readers will reject your peculiar notion that there exists some sort of arbitrary moral baseline for a person's commentary to be deemed "valid". A more cynical observer might say that after no less than four requests, you are singularly unable or unwilling to discuss the original issue, and are instead content to drive the discussion to areas more favorable to your personal philosophy, i.e. passing moral judgments on sexual orientation.

As an aside, I am not attempting to direct the debate by "demanding" that you cease your use of random boldface type and non-sequitur dictionary definitions. These are simply meaningless rhetorical crutches, if your debates skills are such that you choose to rely upon them, then by all means continue to do so. Just don't expect for many people here to take you seriously.

Finally, I apologize for the use of the neologism "nanoparse"....I was simply trying to come up with a more tactful way to say that you nitpick.

I continue to hold out hope for some semblance of substance in your inevitable reply.
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Surely you know how to read IN CONTEXT. Quoting Webster’s 1828 Dictionary was to clarify the meaning of the words within the time period of the quotations.

You would know all about displaying a patronizingly superior attitude, wouldn’t you? Let’s see, what have been some of your more interesting comments about me?

- "anyone with a lick of sense" which of course excludes you and your blood relations

- the "demons of stupidity" that she constantly complains about infesting her soul

- the other far nastier demons who influence her diatribes [a long (quilty!), violent (now, that's not true), or blustering (bullying - that's more your style, Bas) speech, usually of censure or denunciation (quilty!)]

- your transparent intellectual dishonesty [Are all conservatives and-or Republicans dishonest?]

- gussied up with random Bible quotes [gussie: slang for an effeminate man – You do use such colorful language!]

- the absolute paucity [lack, scarcity] of your argument [Thought I argued too much!]

- your rigid tautologies – Please give examples of my “tautologies.”

[In rhetoric, a tautology is the use of redundant language that adds no information; however, a repetition of meaning which improves the style of a piece of speech or writing is not usually described as such. Examples include "free gift," "new innovation," "tuna fish," "Sahara Desert" (Desert Desert). A tautology, in logic, is a statement that cannot be denied without inconsistency; it is true by virtue of its logical form alone.]

- inflexible doctrinaire responses (vs. your self-described “criticisms and commentaries”)

[Doctrinaire: characterized by an authoritative, arrogant assertion of unproved or unprovable principles. I guess I must work more on proving my points.]

* Just how flexible are you, Basmati, in areas other than homosexuality?

- you and your ilk [a class that is defined by the common attribute or attributes possessed by all its members]

* What common attribute(s) defines me and my class?

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Basmati, you can always just not read the definitions if you find them too convicting or mentally challenging.

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I'm sure everyone here is capable of reading a dictionary.

I definitely agree, & I can see that you’ve been spending more time there lately to improve your vocabulary: germane, lurid, sans, aspersions, efficacy, specious, gravitas.

“perogative” [i.e., prerogative], "assertations” [i.e., assertions] – Your spelling has improved also.

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It is the supreme art of the teacher to awaken joy in creative expression and knowledge. -- Albert Einstein

For more than 30 years, homosexual activists have been demanding that our Judeo-Christian culture capitulate and embrace their view of human sexuality, marriage and family. They have a political and cultural agenda, and that’s why they have launched an all-out war against the “Christian Right,” or “Christianists,” as you and Andrew Sullivan like to call us.

Let’s look into the innocuous “gay” world at the “family-friendly” annual Gay Days at Disney, opposed by the often vilified American Family Association and other groups.

Gay Days, held the first Saturday in June, began in 1991 when the GLBT community was encouraged to "Wear Red and Be Seen." And “Be Seen” they have been.

“Welcome Cocktail Parties” and “Pool Parties” are held at the official host hotel on the Disney property. “Start planning your FAB wear now. The pool parties are color coordinated daily so make sure your swim wear outfit is as well.” But don’t worry – those Speedos won’t be on long if you join in the “fun” of a stud? contest.

Of course, don’t miss the parties Saturday night on Pleasure Island: “A night like no other! Descend into decadence.”

(See various photo links at the end; but, be warned, they are graphic. For years "gays" denied reports of their offensive acts, claiming that this was just another family-friendly event. Now they do little to hide the truth.)

You’ll be surprised to discover that a recent critic, who says a lot of what the “Right” has been saying for 15 years, is not a “Christianist”! In fact, in response to his views, he anticipates “emails from my gay brethren calling me a ‘self loathing aunt tom.’”

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“Why I’m Not Going to Gay Days This year”

by the DIS (Disney Discussion Forum) Founder-Webmaster

“Go get a room.”

That’s exactly what I feel like yelling this time every year as Gay Days descend upon Orlando. I know that during the first week in June, unsuspecting families and otherwise good and reasonable people will, at times, be confronted with images and events they would probably rather not see or experience on their family vacation. These people paid to visit Disney World, but during the first week in June, it looks a lot more like South Beach.

Then there is the issue of drugs. It is widely known throughout the gay community in Orlando that if you want good drugs and great sex, the first week of June is a great time to visit . . . . But, I know a little something about Disney, and as a gay man – I feel I had something to say on this issue – something that should be said, something that many good, decent and reasonable people feel – but will never openly express for fear of ‘political incorrectness’ . . . . But most of all, I’m fed up with watching a place I love get defiled by the kind of twisted nonsense that routinely takes place during Gay Days.

www.wdwinfo.com/disney-gay-days.htm

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* Warning - Offensive Material - Original captions accompany pictures *

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=4&category=1&item=141

- Now you know why you couldn't find that leopard skin Speedo you had your mind set on. Some underdressed men are attracting attention on the beach at Beach Ball, Typhoon Lagoon.

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=1&category=1&item=539

- Beach Ball, Typhoon Lagoon

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=8&category=2&item=1064

- Atlanta Boys know how to have FUN!

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=8&category=2&item=1074

- Cute pants -- and you see through everything!

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=8&category=2&item=1075

- Thats right baby, do you know who I am? Let me ride your horse tonight! eeeh Haaaaah!

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=8&category=2&item=1071

- Sailors at large @ MGM. Boys on your knees! Let's get ready to have FUN!

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=8&category=33&item=N11

- I liked this sign especially considering the rumors about what goes on in the caves on Tom Sawyer's island

www.gayday.com/photos/photo_album.asp?album=22&category=261&item=7224

- Activity: Leather Pirates of the Caribbean

I will attempt to restrain myself & used no BOLD emphasis in order not to overload your comprehension ability.

The bold emphasis is my way of helping all of us who, at times, have time only to scan posts. It also helps to fix certain words or phrases in my brain, evidently a mental deficiency. When speaking, a monotone is boring; when writing more than a few words, no highlighting for emphasis is boring.

My highlighting has been of help to others, though, because I was paid for my highlighting of textbooks in college when asked for help in passing classes or, even better, getting an A. Old habits die hard.

All other blogging etiquette rules and suggestions will hereby be taken under advisement.

I'd like an answer in your own words sans cut and paste this time, if you please.

Just being "Fair and Balanced" here.... You need to allow Denise the luxury of using the same blogging methods that you use. Stay on topic my friend. Have a great day!

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I'm sorry but I don't get the "Romans" thing! I don't know "Sullivan."
I try to read and understand your blurbs, but the highlighting throws off my train of thought!
I suppose you two should have a private e-mail correspondence!

Andrew Sullivan is the source for Basmati's term "Christianist."

Sorry about the highlighting. Actually it helps me to focus.

Private email with Basmati, surely you jest!

I have watched Dateline's "To Catch a Predator"!!!!

I have Firefox and Thunderbird .... oh, everything else you just said is right too.

Well done young man.

Enigma

Stupid talk. Golden calves have turned into two hundrd million dollar glass cathedrals and fleets of jets. Not eating pork to keep down diseases from tainted meat has turned into taking alcohol and dope. "Covered women, with no makeup and hairdos, has turned into a trillion dollar business, mostly spent by" christians", for hairdos and makeup, weight loss and spas.
Spandex is worn to church now. Sexual purposes, I suppose.
Republican christians think if one doesn't talk about sin, it doesn't happen. Democrats think if you visually and verbally talk about sin all of the time, it will become right and common.

"Stupid talk." Just exactly what is "stupid"? To whom are you referring (for clarity so that we can have a discussion)?

"Golden calves" Perhaps you are confusing matters here. Are you referring to the Ark of the Covenant (the Ark of the Lord), as described in Exodus 25, where God said, "There I will meet with you"? God gave Moses exact details about how to worship Him, one being the Ark (chest or coffer) made of acacia wood, overlaid in gold with a pure gold lid designated as the Mercy Seat. At each end were 2 golden cherubim (plural of cherub, not at all like the ones on Valentine Day cards.) According to Josephus, the first century historian, no one knew what the cherubim in the Temple looked like. But here are some renditions that are quite good.

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/historypage.htm

A golden calf is mentioned in Exodus 32. The Israelites asked Aaron, Moses' brother, "Make us a god [one that we can see] who will go before us" because Moses had been on the mountain with God and they became impatient for him to return. Aaron took the gold jewelry that they gave to him and fashioned a calf for them to worship ["a great sin"] and, and "the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play." God's response was anger: "They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them." Moses' anger burned hot when he saw the riotous singing and dancing around the calf, "out of control." God called these people "obstinate," and Moses saw that they were "prone to evil." God said, "I will punish them for their sin."

To the church at Laodicea (in Asia Minor that forms the greater part of the Asian part of Turkey), God said:

15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!

16 So, because you are lukewarm — neither hot nor cold — I am about to spit you out of my mouth [vomit].

17 You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.

18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest [zealous], and repent.

20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

21 To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

People surely don't change over the millennia, do they?

God isn't going to ask you what church you attended (or mosque or temple - your post "hutch: church" on Fri. 4-6) or how much you gave or your other good works.

Are you a good person? Why don't you find out.

http://www.livingwaters.com/good/

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/#

Here Denise... Let me help you with those links. I'd be curious to see how everyone else fares. I for one am certainly not a good person.

AM I A GOOD PERSON?

TAKE THE GOOD PERSON TEST

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Thanks for the help.

My programming source is unavailable right now, so how do you do insert links?

Thanks

To Compose A Hyper Link On The Citizen

Look above the ”Preview Comment” at the bottom of the Add New Comment” page.

You will see this: More Information About Formatting Options

Click on it and then...

Copy and paste the entire “Anchor” example and paste it in your blog reply.

Remove this: http://www.thecitizen.com from between the parenthesis in the code and replace it with the address you desire.

Next remove this: The Citizen Online

Then rename your hyper link to whatever you desire.

I usually go here and copy the “code”. Then I paste it to use it as a footprint to add my desired info into. Guess it would be easier if I just memorized the code.

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Guess one should always read the fine print!

A programmer has added a few HTML options when I right click the mouse (if that's the right terminology), but I'd forgotten that adding the link is a quick 2-step process. It didn't work at first, & I forgot to ask what I was doing wrong.

Thanks again!

It took me a couple of tries. If someone would come up with an "easy to use" set of instructions I'd be glad to save it in word and post it periodically.

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Sorry, not to toot my own horn but see this: Tips for Fellow Bloggers. I knew I'd seen you mention this but couldn't find it until just now....

I hope that's helpful and somewhat understandable.

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- Get Firefox for a better, safer, and more enjoyable web browsing experience!

Denise was not the only one who wanted to know how to do that.

Tell me dollar do you go to church?

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I have been in many churches, many mosques, many temples, even in the holiest of holies in Turkey. I have been in shacks with out-door toilets, where people handled hot pot bellied stoves and snakes. I have been in the Sistine Chapel, and the church next door, although I didn't know what the father was saying.
I have supported the Salvation Army all of my life and have contributed much cash to those in need as long as I have had enough to do so.
I am not to enamoured of the current crop of "preachers."

"even in the holiest of holies in Turkey" --

"Holy of Holies," the Most Holy Place in traditional Judaism, is the inner sanctuary (which contained the Ark of the Covenant) within the Tabernacle and later within the Temple in Jerusalem when Solomon's Temple and the second Temple were standing (before its destruction in A.D. 70). The Temple Mount is on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.

Just wondering

According to the standard of God's Word, many churches are not what they should be.

The most important question is are you ready to face judgment?

"Man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment."

Hebrews 9 talks about the New Covenant to replace the Old (sacrifices at the Temple) because "the gifts and sacrifices being offered were not able to clear the conscience of the worshiper."

It takes the blood of Christ who "died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant" and to "cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!"

We would welcome you at the United Methodist Church in PTC. Chuck Hodges is the best preacher ever. Take my word for it and drop in anytime. Tomorrow will be an especially good time, but any time is great. Slip in the back and give us just one chance. Wear whatever you want except spandex.

Is that a Seeker Service type church ? What is it about ?

Jeff: I have belonged to "the church" since 1938. The first hymn I remember is "Swing low, sweet chariot."
I know Mr. Hodges as a very nice man.
Presumptious on your part, however, to assume I need to go to your church! By the way, I have been to Jimmy's church in Plains.
I think what you want to know is: Do I give a lot of money to "a church," and do I pretend often to worship God as told to do so? Also, will anyone attend my funeral from my church, and say what a grand person I was?
I am confident, Jeff. A personal relationship is superior to group chatter, and I usually don't like church.

I just read what you wrote and UMCPTC is not like anything you describe, neither Republican nor Democratic. Not political at all, in fact. I definately don't care if you give money. We are quite a wealthy church in fact. A few years ago we decided to rebuild a Methodist hospital destroyed by the war in Liberia. After that we had money to rebuild the orphanage. Then we rebuilt the school. Then we "adopted" all the orphans and now we are going to send them all to school as far as they want to go, including college. We are not interested in your money at all. I menioned it because you were unenamored of the current crop of preachers and I've found one who is special. I agree that it is presumptious on my part to think that you need to go to church but it is not directed to you personaly. I presume that everyone needs to go to church. I find it an exciting and dymanic place. All are welcomed there anytime.

Dollar, the man just invited you to his church, he never said you need to go to his church. You seem quite defensive about this when he was just extending an invitation, and I bet he could care less how much you give to a church, unlike you the man has class and would never ask such a question.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

that's not what I asked, I asked do you go to church, not if you sightsee?

I yam what I yam...Popeye

If the leaders and figure heads in the GOP spoke as clearly as you, that party would certainly be on surer footing. You walk the walk Git. We don't always agree (unless Iranian butt kickings are on the menu), but I ALWAYS respect your opinion. Trust me when I say that Basmati is but a counterbalance to the air-filled "doctors" and "lawyers" on this blog who believe the only truth comes from Coulter, Hannity, Oreally, and Limbaugh. I always enjoy your honest and open opinions. Please don't ever let us viral libs cause you to join Oldschool, Rightonthemoney, or Armymaj. Then we would just be the AJC.

Cheers mate,

Kevin "Hack" King

he isn't attacking christianity,....just christians....because of the way they behave and treat other people. You just proved his point admirably.

People like you are the reason I stopped going to church a long time ago. I love God hate people like you who call themselves christians.

People like you who wear your little w.w.j.d. stickers and buttons.....apparently from what I have seen.....jesus would do whatever the blinking hell he wanted to if ....christians are an example of how he would treat others.

Basmati's view of Christianist would not have near as much value or validity if it weren't for people like you inadvertantly (I assume) providing him with living and breathing examples. Here is USA 101. Just the mere suggestion that someone drag a dissenter out in the street and do what's right is dispicable and worthy only of pre-Saddam Iraq, Iran, and USSR cerca 1970. Just what virtue were you attempting to show here, my friend? Reread your post and then you might somehow see yourself proving Basmati's Christiany point.

Cheers, and do some Tai chi to unwind a bit. And please remember: A piece of bread and two fish were the first foodstamps, were they not?

Kevin "Hack" King

Actually Hack, the whole loaves of bread and fish thing was a ‘Miracle’ and a working lunch. It was never intended to be replicated on a daily basis to millions courtesy of Uncle Sam AKA: Santa; AKA: the US Taxpayer.

Even in the verse you refer to Phillip says in John 6, verse 7 “Philip answered him, "Eight months' wages would not buy enough bread for each one to have a bite!"” So, apparently, Phillip recognized that work and pay preceded eating.

The Bible also (since you brought it up) actually does address the requirement for work to acquire food specifically both in the old and new testament:

Genesis 3: 19; 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Proverbs 28:19 He who works his land will have abundant food, but the one who chases fantasies will have his fill of poverty.

2 Thessalonians 3:8 nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you.

Of course, we are also charged with taking care of those who cannot feed themselves:

Leviticus 25:35 'If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support himself among you, help him as you would an alien or a temporary resident, so he can continue to live among you.

***It is worthy to note this ‘Old Testament’ book also says you may own slaves: Leviticus 25: 38 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan and to be your God.”
39 " 'If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave. 40 He is to be treated as a hired worker or a temporary resident among you; he is to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 41 Then he and his children are to be released, and he will go back to his own clan and to the property of his forefathers. 42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. 43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.
44 " 'Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

I suppose this is all overkill but I think it’s a great place to bring in to this major (no pun intended) distinction in the Liberal and Conservative points of view:

“We should take fish from those who have the most fish to feed a man a meal whenever he is hungry (even if those with many fish do not want to contribute).” – Liberal View

“Teach a man to fish to feed him for a lifetime.” – Conservative View

“Those who cannot fish can cut bait; those who cannot cut bait can carry nets.” – Pragmatist – Libertarian
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Surely you can reason better than this!

"A piece of bread and two fish were the first foodstamps"????

How about reading the passage from the Bible for the real story.

Five Thousand Fed

12 Now the day was ending, and the twelve came and said to Him, "Send the crowd away, that they may go into the surrounding villages and countryside and find lodging and get something to eat; for here we are in a desolate place."

13 But He said to them, "You give them something to eat!" And they said, "We have no more than five loaves and two fish, unless perhaps we go and buy food for all these people."

14(For there were about five thousand men.) And He said to His disciples, "Have them sit down to eat in groups of about fifty each."

15 They did so, and had them all sit down.

16 Then He took the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, He blessed them, and broke them, and kept giving them to the disciples to set before the people.

17 And they all ate and were satisfied; and the broken pieces which they had left over were picked up, twelve baskets full.

This was NOT governmental redistribution of wealth; it was CHARITY! It was a lesson in kindness -- loving God by loving your neighbor as yourself.

The disciples freely gave of their own resources, and God blessed their efforts. They didn't "take" via taxation from one to "give" to another.

Big difference

Are we to literally think that Jesus somehow fed 5000 by increasing the small amount of fish and bread into enough for all 5000? I don't argue that a God could do that, I don't know.
Somehow though I choose to think he simply told them a parable about not to worry about food just as the sparrow should not.
If the food was real, as we now describe something to eat, and it was considered "charity," then that must mean that all 5000 were poor people, all in great need.
Again, somehow I think maybe some of those people were just like you and I, looking for answers and maybe weren't poor in monetary things at all, but only in spirit.
The disciples giving of "their own resources," I must assume meant their compassion and verbal assistance, instead of money or food that they carried around.
I don't think they worked for a salary or were independently wealthy.
However we interpret these words, they really mean about the same thing, don't they?
Except, we really do have a hard time practicing such charity today, don't we? We still begrudge welfare from our taxes, since many of us think that everyone should have enough on their own labors. The word lazy is usually mentioned. Grunt labor is required.

We must end the "taking" without giving to said economy. It is time to end Iraqi failed state welfare, govt education grants, medicare, medicade, disband the EPA, FDA, FDIC. Let's get this ball a rollin!!!

Kevin "Hack" King

I think you want something like, say Georgia in the early 1800s?
No Interstate highways; no PAID labor, just slaves; no health restrictions on interstate commerce; no controls on pollution (states won't do it and cut their own throat); no forced pensions, so that the ignorant starve or go to the old poor houses in Georgia in those days; and if Maine gets into a squabble with Iran, just let them fight it out alone. Each state could perform their own research for the good of all, oops, I mean just Georgia, and when most die of disease it will be good as their will fewer to feed and house!
I like the sound of that: it would be better than now where I draw $50,000 cash per year, give the feds 15,000 in taxes from my total of $65,000; whereas, under your system I would just draw $50,000, period, and have none of the above either! Why would my company pay me the same as before when I don't need it to pay Uncle Sam?

Is that sarcasm Hackster, or are you really a fiscal conservative? I think we need to get rid of about 95% of all federal programs and leave the money in the taxpayer's pocket, and at the state and local level as was intended by the founders. Guys like your dad know what his community needs are a little better than some California socialist sitting in D.C. He's also more likely to answer to his voters.

Maximus

There is nothing in the constitution about providing public education. Education is a state responsibility. Eliminate the federal department of education NOW.

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We must end the "taking" without giving to said economy. It is time to end Iraqi failed state welfare, govt education grants, Medicare, Medicaid, disband the EPA, FDA, FDIC. Let's get this ball a rollin!!!

If you mean it I'll vote for you against Wastemoreland. Let's compromise on the Iraq thing though. If we pull out now we need to convert the sand in Iraq, Iran, and Syria into a smooth sheet of glass. That should solve quite a few of the worlds problems. The neighboring countries left will get the message loud and clear. Then we pull out without even having to fund even a measly ole air base and we the taxpayers pocket some tax money and with the other cuts you suggest we balance the budget.

Let's roll baby! Oh.... while we're at it let's go ahead and take out France and give it to the Germans. I'm beginning to think that's where we screwed up in WWII. Should have let them keep that one.

Did you say that was your Pops in the jump seat? How cool is that.

These keyboards are so hard to use £ ò à ùè. It,s like someone scrambled the keys around. My dad last flew in an ejection seat around 1969 in an F-100. This was a rare treat for him. I wish everyone could experience the 2 hour, 6 g roller coaster. I'd give anything to take you guys up (including Maximus, Oldbeachbear, Trent, Enigma, Hutch, Denise, BadPTC, Beav, Bas, Army, xFirefighter, JeffC., Tug, pentapenguin). Even those who are on different sides of the political coin are true Americans expressing heart felt opinions that make us the great nation we are. Okay. Enough cheese (but I mean every word).

We must remember what side of WWII Italy was on. And this is a great layover, as is Paris and Nice (Neese). So let's let wars gone by be by gones. I am all for shrinking this government of ours that has never been bigger or spent more. I'm starting to think I'm the true conservative here. But seriously, I've said it before. Iron sharpens iron, and that's why I'm here butting heads with the fellow Americans whom I love and will protect to my death.

Cheers, and I'll have a fancy Italian wine in all of your honor. Kevin "Hack" King

Hack, I'd give anything to go up with you and I wish I could take you out on my old destroyer where you would learn to really rock and roll.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I think Greek isle cruiseliners has a job waiting for you. I hope the French man and his daughter are sitting on a beach somewhere waiting for rescue. G'Day

Kevin "Hack" King

I need to dig my g-suit and harness out of the attic and I'll be ready go!

I guess Italy is O.K., but I have to agree with Git about France. With friends like that...

And if they would all just speak english the keyboards wouldn't be so hard to use.

Maximus

Hack, I would love to fly with you! When are we leaving?
Seriously, you know you are one of my heroes. Thanks for including me on your wish list. That was a wonderful thing you did for your Dad.

One day when you have the time, I hope you will tell us more about what you do. (if you can) I don't mind telling you, I'm a 58 yr old mother and grandmother and I have never been out of the United States! It's very interesting for me to hear about all of the countries that you post comments from.

Being in the military, I know you have probably seen a lot of horrible things. My hope is that you remember the good things more.

My prayers are always with you.
God Bless and be safe.
Tug

I updated my picture so you could see me on the best deployment of my AF career. I was flying with ABCCC (from Davis-Monthan) and we were flying out of Aviano airbase in northern Italy, in support of the war in Bosnia. Our flying schedule allowed us a day off, now and then, to enjoy the Italian countryside and their warm hospitality. In this picture, I was hiking the Alps, near the border with Austria. (Think "Sound of Music") I sure do miss those trips to Italy!

Kind of ironic that three of our best allies, after England, are Germany, Italy, and Japan. You mentioned that Italy was on the Axis side during WWII, but there was a large Italian resistance movement helping the Allies, and the Italian people are very pro-American.

Well I envy you being there. I keep telling my wife that we will take a vacation to Italy someday, but it's so much better to get sent there on "orders" so your expenses are all paid.

We must remember what side of WWII Italy was on.

Yup...like slavery we must never forget lest we repeat. However, let's look at Italy today and you'll see a relatively darn good ally. France on the other hand????.... We should have made them a colony after WWII.

Hack you get around don't you? I'm beginning to be a bit jealous of your job. I do have a question for you though. Do you require a passport to travel or does a Warthog go where ever it darn well chooses?

I'm starting to think I'm the true conservative here.

I believe that you may indeed be a true Conservative under all that left-wing indoctrination you've been subjected to. LOL!

Give me a yell and I'd be honored to jump in the seat behind you. I'd force my pride to not allow you to make me sick. I'd hope.

Tug, you always have a way of hitting guys right square in the heart. Thank you. Gump, this is my first time in Italy. I have been to Sigonella, Sicily twice ferrying A-10s from the Gulf region, but that was from 97-99. These days my Air Force flying is all CONUS in the T-38. I teach the advanced jet portion of SUPT (pilot training). We don't air refuel, so we are land lubbers in the Talon. I haven't touched an A-10 since August 1999, and I do miss that ugly beast.

My foreign travel is all with DAL on the 767ER. 8 days a month with the AF, and 14-17 with Delta. It sounds like a better deal than it is, but I enjoy hablando, spreken, fallando, with the locals. Passports are required for all locals and Visas for Russia (Moscow only) and France. Most countries requiring visas do so because we require them for their citizens to enter the US. Military travelers have a unique passport, but the guberment takes care of most of the hassle. That's enough about that. Ohhhh yeeaa. I made real, real good on my promise (see bottom of above post ). Take care and Bona Serra,

Kevin "Hack" King

I was in ABCCC from '96 until '99. Our job was coordinating close air support for the Army, and our "hero" was the A-10. Best tank-killer ever, hands down. You and I have probably met face to face at some point. Maybe we will again.

The WWII equivalent to the A-10 was the P-47 Thunderbolt. My uncle was a P-47 pilot, and got shot down while strafing German positions near Aviano. You can imagine how my parents felt when I was flying combat missions in that same area! Well all's well that ends well. Have a safe trip home!

They're still putting cash into the Herc. It is almost a different beast these days. Sweet and sour and picture North, please ps. Your Uncle Rocks! I'd love to fly a burly, piston driven beast like the Thunderbolt. I grew up to Pappy Boyington and Bahh, Bahh Blacksheep!

Kevin "Hack" King

"If we pull out now we need to convert the sand in Iraq, Iran, and Syria into a smooth sheet of glass."

Nuclear glow, is it better than fluorescent?

"while we're at it let's go ahead and take out France and give it to the Germans. I'm beginning to think that's where we screwed up in WWII. Should have let them keep that one."

I was under the impression that the Muslims - Islamists have already claimed all of Europe. We wouldn't want to make them too mad.

That's awful christiany of you.

Kevin "Hack" King

I agree with Git Real: "You guys know I jest. We must all pray it never has to come to that again. But my point is we're going to be fighting these hateful murderous Islamo-Fascists from now on. Their desire is not to assimilate. It's to conquer."

Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.

The great defense against the air menace is to attack the enemy's aircraft as near as possible to their point of departure.

We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.

Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.

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I take in stray dogs and cats & I cry when one dies. I give to charities. I do have a heart.

But of course I'm gonna tickle your ribs given the chance. By the way, there are many, many adoption seekers over here. I'm going to have to give my running shoes a soak in the tub before I pack them, if you knows what I means.

Cheers,
Kevin "Hack" King

You guys know I jest. We must all pray it never has to come to that again. But my point is we're going to be fighting these hateful murderous Islamo-Fascists from now on. Their desire is not to assimilate. It's to conquer.

I really wanted to strike up a conversation with the Iranian I bought a wool rug off of yesterday. Just to feel him out a bit and learn his perspectives on the world issues. I was afraid my wife would hurt me if I opened my mouth. I have to get into those subjects when she's not there to crack the whip on me.

And you'll know we basically married the same woman!!!

Kevin "Hack" King

We must end the "taking" without giving to said economy. It is time to end Iraqi failed state welfare, govt education grants, medicare, medicade, disband the EPA, FDA, FDIC. Let's get this ball a rollin!!!

Don't forget the wonderful FEMA that can't do anything right, the Department of "Edukasun," and welfare to "family farmers" and mega corporations! If you're serious, there's hope for you yet, Mr. King! :)

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"It is time to end Iraqi failed state welfare, govt education grants, medicare, medicade, disband the EPA, FDA, FDIC."

Wow, you've solved the deficit problem better than almost any politician in Washington

Out! Out! You demons of stupidity!

Denise,
Notice that Hack doesn't have a response when reason is used. He sees everything in black and white (people).

Beaver, how dishonest your reply is: "He (meaning me) sees everything in black and white."

Oldbeachbear suggested some Dirty Harry type take care of Basmati. This would imply the use of a 357 magnum, which is what Dirty Harry is known for. OldBeachbear then added,

"Yo...I bet you live off food stamps! Meaning off the back of the honest WORKING poor!"

So how exactly did I initiate that? My quick response (being that I have a life like Denise, was much more about the inconsistency of defending Christianity with inuendos of violence than it was about manna from Heaven or the miracle of feeding 5000. So, Beaver, why don't you give the defense of Christian virtues through Dirty Harry analogies another shot (pun intended).

Kevin "Hack" King

Tell us (me) why you ARE a Democrat.

We'll have to put a fork in it soon. This one's straight forward for me. When I was comming of voting age in North Carolina, Jesse Helms was the GOP senator from NC. He makes Westmoreland look eloquent. Jesse, unlike your accounting of the big tent, did not welcome gays. He did not reach out to minorities. He used minority groups and sexual orientation as clever wedge issues. Kind of how we do the "Gay marraige amendments" here. The North Carolina Democrats were the candidates with messages you felt inspired by and motivated by. They were the unity party. Our democratic governor, James Hunt, also was an exempary motivator and leader.
I found supply side politics to be greed focused, and human focused politics of the dems to be, well, human focused.
Flash forward to now. I am amazed that the term "discretionary war" even exists. Let's hit him in the face now just in case one day he may try to hit us in the face. Oops. Our intel was wrong. He actually didn't even have arms to swing. Oh well.
I believe that a president from one party is absolutely irresponsible when he says a vote for the other party equals a vote for the terrorists. That is truly the most amazing statement I have ever heard a president on the campaign trail say.
I believe labor unions serve a valuable function in a world where humans are greedy and money brings power, and unregulated power brings corruption. Just look at the accounting within Iraq for the perfect example of the "free market."
I, unlike his party, think that Dick Cheney's daughter should have all of the rights I do.
I think conflating man's law and religious law (no booze on Sunday) is wrong.
I believe we should never, under any circumstances, torture other human beings.
I believe in Habius Corpus (even if I can't spell it)
I believe the environment should not be protected by an EPA staffed with energy lobbyists.
I don't like back office dealings which we see much of these days.
I believe that if you go to war enforcing UN1441 in Iraq, it is foolish to belittle the UN who's resolutions you claim to go to war to enforce.

All of that being said: I do not agree with the recipricol of a quote forwarded by Denise Connor and attributed to Ann Coulter: "There are some bad Republicans. There are no good Democrats." I have voted for and continue to vote for people of either party who I feel will serve the public well. I like Chuck Hagel, I have voted for NC Republican Walter Jones, and a host of local republicans. I don't like the "loyalty to party above all" thing. I find it a dangerous mindset. Cheers mate, and Hack away at what I've given you.

Kevin "Hack" King

In the early 1940s, a politically ambitious butcher from West Virginia named Bob Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to form a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. After Byrd had collected the $10 joining fee and $3 charge for a robe and hood from every applicant, the "Grand Dragon" for the mid-Atlantic states came down to tiny Crab Orchard, W.Va., to officially organize the chapter. It’s a good thing you didn’t ‘come of age’ in West Virginia Hack.

George Corley Wallace or officially George C. Wallace, Jr. (August 25, 1919 – September 13, 1998), was an American politician who was elected Governor of Alabama as a Democrat four times (1962, 1970, 1974 and 1982) and ran for U.S. President four times, running as a Democrat in 1964, 1972, and 1976, and as the American Independent Party candidate in 1968. He is best known for his pro-segregation attitudes, which he later recanted, during the American desegregation period. It’s a good thing you didn’t ‘come of age’ in Alabama Hack.

Orval Eugene Faubus (7 January 1910–14 December 1994) was a six-term Democratic Governor of Arkansas, infamous for his 1957 stand against integration of Little Rock, Arkansas, schools in defiance of U.S. Supreme Court rulings. It’s a good thing you didn’t come of age in Arkansas Hack.

In fact, Democrats have a long history of having things in a rebellious and defiant way.

The most notable instance was the defiance in 1957 of federal orders by Governor Orval Faubus (Democrat) of Arkansas (see above), who called out the Arkansas National Guard to prevent integration in Little Rock. (Republican) President Eisenhower responded by sending federal troops to enforce the court order for integration. Good thing you weren’t raised there Hack.

In 1958 Virginia (Democrat Thomas B. Stanley) closed nine schools in four counties rather than have them integrated, but Virginia and federal courts ruled these moves illegal.

In 1961 two black students registered at the Univ. of Georgia but were suspended (S. Ernest Vandiver, Jr , Democrat) because of student disorders; they were later returned under a federal judge's order. Not a great place to come of age either Hack.

In 1962–63 violence erupted in Mississippi, precipitating a serious crisis in federal-state relations. Against the opposition of Gov. Ross R. Barnett (Democrat), James H. Meredith, a black who was supported by federal court orders, registered at the Univ. of Mississippi in 1962. A mob gathered and attacked the force of several hundred federal marshals assigned to protect Meredith; two persons were killed. The next day federal troops occupied Oxford and restored order. Meredith became the first African American to attend a Mississippi public school with white students in accord with the 1954 court decision. Glad you weren’t coming of age then Hack!

In 1963, South Carolina's Clemson College became the first integrated public school in that state Gov. Ernest Hollings, Democrat). Gov. George C. Wallace of Alabama (Democrat) stood in a doorway at the Univ. of Alabama in a symbolic attempt to block two black students from enrolling in 1963; the attempt failed. (In the North attempts were also made to combat segregation. After a suit brought by black parents in 1960, the school system of New Rochelle, N.Y., was in 1961 ordered by a federal judge to be desegregated. Similar suits followed in other cities.) Wow, Hack - Republicans are oppositionists! I guess you came of age in the right place at the right time.

Just wait to you see my next post- it's the history of the Republican Oppositionists. If you take the time to read it - I think you will enjoy it.

P.S. - I HATE airports too. In fact, I HATE to fly. Welcome home - show off.

There is nothing to show off about when you fly 8.5 hours to New York JFK to go catch a nasty bus to Liguardia to make the Red Eye to ATL. I came through the door at 1230HRS, officially missing every last minute of Easter.
I am very familiar with Dixicrats. They put Southern values ahead of party. That is what brought Republicanism to the South with the likes of Gov. Maddox. Remember the democratic president that knew he would lose the south for the Republicans by supporting Civil Rights? Johnson. But he showed the moral courage to surrender the South to the Republicans. And we've been red staters ever since. You will get no argument from me if you say there are some losers in the party of the donkey. Career politics will ruin anyone. Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

I love starting a post with those words. Dirty Harry was known for a 44 Magnum, the world's most powerful handgun (at the time) which will blow your head clear off!

A S&W Model 29 with 6" barre; to be precise.

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Just askin' for no real reason....U'r a Dr of what?

So the Judeo-Christian didn't have some child abuse? I'll have to check w/ Westmoron but I don't think it's in the Top 10.

I think the point is that the Christian point of view isn't any more valid (except in youse's minds) than any other religion's. Islam is not an unethical belief. Buddist are just as pious as Catholic priest.