Arbor Place Mall: No kids alone

Iv'e thought about this and I can't seem to convince myself that it was the only thing to do to solve what the mall considered a problem. And I expect it was.
They do not want ANY young people under 18 there after 6:00 P.M., unless their parents are with them---I'm not sure about Grandpa or Grandma,
Many of these kids have no parents available, or only one who may be working.
Most of them, no doubt, have caused little or no trouble, just some.
It just doesn't sound correct! If they are caught doing something against the law, then ticket or arrest only those.
These kids are NOT going to stay home, even if they are run out of Arbor Mall. They will get together someplace else, without doubt. Someplace not so well lit and protected, I fear.
To say that they shouldn't be there on a week-end unless they are 18 or accompanied by an adult, is just an opinion, not the law.
Want to try that in PTC on the cart paths or at WalMart, or at any of the other "hangouts?"

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Arbor Place Mall is a Shopping
Submitted by playfair on Wed, 03/28/2007 - 8:17am.

center, in the business of selling merchandise, not a older child care center. I had to shop there recently on a Friday night. It was overrun with groups of arrogant, sneering teenagers. Drssing rooms were filled with clothes and girls who had no intention of purchasing anything. Store employees are so busy wacthing for shop lifting, there's no help for buying customers. Your right, all of the kids may not be bad. However, when I was walking to my car and there was a group of 8 teenage boys standing nearby, they were not holding a sign to let me know if they were safe or not. The constant cruising of the parking lot by secruity guards and police, made me the aware that they must have problems. If these teens are forced to go elsewhere, maybe it should be their homes. My 15, and 18 year old have always been able to hang out at our or their friend's homes. Sure, I would prefer some privacy and relaxation on the weekends nights, plus saving the costs of snacks and the wear and tear of my furniture, but their my kids and my responsibility. It also gives kids, and there are some who want it, an easy excuse to avoid the peer pressure to smoke, drink, or have sex, because it would be easy to get caught. They may complain bitterly, but most kids want some bounderies set on them. It's always easier to blame your parents, then to be considered a goody-goody.

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playfair: irritants
Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 03/28/2007 - 6:25pm.

Arrogance and sneering is usually not a crime, just rude. Talking in the parking lot could be considered trespassing, and maybe should be...but then they will be inside!
The kids messing up clothes and buying nothing is also not against the law. Everyone does that some. Again just rude and irresponsible.
To compare your home to their home, and say that is where they ought to be, means you haven't seen inside their home, and what and who is there! Their fault? No. Why must they be the ones punished then?
I agree they learn more quickly how to smoke, curse, fondle, drink alcohol, and other things there, but it goes on at home too in many cases. One parent families (female) are most common, or grandmas.
It does need improving, this situation, but to continually raise kids in this way doesn't get corrected by punishing only the kid.
I ran into similar temptations when I was in high school, but the family that raised me taught me to be careful and to back off a lot. They don't have that background. Living a certain way and not just "saying" a certain way, maybe in church, makes all the difference in the world to a kid.

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My point was that
Submitted by playfair on Thu, 03/29/2007 - 8:45am.

the actions and behavior of these children, the rule applies to those under 18, is driving away the buying customers. Doesn't the mall have a right to protect its financial interest? The empolyees of these stores are trying to earn an income, should they have to suffer from the loss of income? Last year, a local pizza parlor stopped allowing middle schoolers in without an adult. They were losing regular customers due to the disruptive behavior of groups of young kids. Were they wrong to deny these kids a place to hang out? Maybe a non profit group, such as the mega churches, should be forced to open their facilities on weekend nights to provide a hang out spot.

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If their kid is "hangen out at Wal-Mart"
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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 03/27/2007 - 8:42am.

then the parent(s) and the kid should be arrested.


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dollar You Astound Me
Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 03/27/2007 - 8:29am.

Did you actually say that the kids caught doing something wrong should be arrested? As in held accountable, and punished for bad behavior??

Holy smoke....you have changed....

Sounds like they have a rule and they are enforcing it...good for them.

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