ANNEXATION

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Ã…nnexation is, rightfully so, a major issue in this campaign. Steve Brown ran in 2001 as an "anti-annexation" candidate. And now he and his supporters are trying to paint Harold Logsden as a "pro-annexation" candidate. Well, that is simply Brown's typical "say what is necessary" to get the vote. So if you are truly concerned about annexation (and you should be) look at the facts.
Steve Brown has a proven record of TRYING to annex property. When a builder approached the city requesting a waiver regarding some homes he was building that had a portion on city property and the majority on county property, Brown simply declared "why don't we just annex the property?" At that point, City Attorney Meeker "reminded" Brown that we have an annexation moratorium in effect and cannot discuss annexation. So what did Brown do? HE approached Wieland Homes and began a closed door, private negotiation to annex the hotly discussed 360 acres! Ironically it was the "evil" DirectPac that found out and officially demanded at a City Council meeting that if an annexation was going to occur, the moratorium be lifted and the city staff, engineers, and our ENTIRE council be involved. So, under Brown's "leadership" the annexation moratorium was lifted.
Harold Logsden has stated that any annexation needs to be done correctly, in the best interest of the city, with use of all resources, and PUBLICLY! He HASN'T said it WILL be done!
So no matter where you stand on annexation, know this:
BROWN WILL ANNEX the property! He wants it, and never stops until he gets his way. Doesn't care about you or me, only "what's in it for him." But he has already TRIED to annex the property. He thinks HE is the only one who can do this. He thinks HE is exempt from "special interest" influence. HE thinks he has all encompassing knowledge. HE thinks his plan is the "only plan." HE doesn't want your input, my input, the city staff input, our elected city council input. He has proven that in his "beind close doors" attempt to annex.
Logsden wants PUBLIC INPUT, CITY STAFF INPUT, COUNCIL INPUT. He wants it to methodical, reasonable, above boards. He wants it done RIGHT, in the best interest of the City. That is IF it's done at all.
Brown wants to annex for personal gain. Not IF we annex, WHEN we annex.
I am not "pro-annexation," but IF it is in the best interest of the city, and IF we are going to consider it, I want input. I want professional studies. I want ALL my elected representatives involved. I DON'T want Brown doing ANYTHING that big by himself. I want Harold Logsden for mayor.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 1:34pm.

As a resident of PTC, I would like to see us have control over the area. Having it done right would be quite an asset to our City. Cart Paths, continuity to PTC etc would be the way I would like to see the parcel taken.

The area just East of PTC City Limits, on HWY 54 is not my idea of quality development.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 9:25am.

Big growth is not good for PTC. I agree.

But, there are locations that have big impact on PTC, so they must be annexed.

So, if annexed, they must done so carefully, and in a well planned manner.

I understand your concerns with Brown. Surprise you?

Do you understand my concerns with Logsdon? I don't think so.

His position on the Tennis Center, to me, is pro-developer and bank. I see no aspect of concern over a number of key elements of arguments against the Tennis Center to start with.

I see nothing of substance said on how he would annex. By PTC standards has little meaning to me, in light of the Tennis Center issue and his complete silence on many issues.

Logsdon is so silent I don's see how any pro-citizen input person can support him over Brown as regards this issue.


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Submitted by birdman on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 10:14am.

Glad we agree on some issues. Maybe there is hope Smiling
You need to talk to many people about the DAPC loan. Read the letter in this issue by John Hartnett. Talk to former city counclmembers. Talk to former DAPC members. Brown has had a long running hatred for the DAPC since well before he became mayor. It has been a huge agenda item for him. His goal was to eliminate it long before he became mayor.
I agree wholeheartedly that there are mistakes in the contract and loan administration. But that doesn't make it "illegal." If you go back and talk to people and research the issue you will find that we benefited greatly as a city with this Tennis Center expansion. We used to be "world reknowned." Now the Tennis Center is a joke. We had a world class facility that drew in a number of tournaments. The influx to local business was great. Now it is barely surviving.
The loan was funded by Hotel/Motel taxes. It was FREE to the city. Unless you stayed in a hotel here, you DIDN'T pay for it. But Brown so hated the DAPC that he had to get rid of it. So he scoured contracts, meeting minutes, finally the loan to try and undo our Development Authority.
Truth is, even with some of the "handshake" items, the loan will be most likely be repaid by us. We stand to lose our credit rating, the lawsuit, and a whole bunch more tax dollars thanks to Browns vindictive hatred for the DAPC.
Brown has everyone believing we (that is ANY opposition) are merely "big developers." I'm not. But have you noticed he never really "names" those "developers" (except Group VI who are involved in the suit). He never really states what the "developers" hope to gain. Do you see a lot of undeveloped land? As for the West Village, do you really think it needs to be PTC land to be profitable? In fact is there anywhere in PTC that you can build where you'd LOSE money? NO! So what are the "developers" going to gain with a "puppet" mayor?
Brown simply uses election "buzz words." Here are the clear examples:
"big developers"
"special interest"
"anti-family"
"anti-youth"
"pro-bank"
But he NEVER really offers proof. He NEVER explains exactly which "special interest" group or what these "evildoers" stand to gain. You know why? Because they DON'T exist! He is blowning pure smoke and you and many others are buying it.

Logsden isn't silent on issues, Brown is simply distracting you into believing such nonsense. He has clearly stated what he wants to accomplish. As we have seen in national elections, one must actually be in office to prioritize the budget. One must actually be in office to find programs to cut. One must actually be in office and work with the professional staff to set programs in motion. Just look at Brown's 2001 campaign and you will see he simply cited issues and gave no specific solutions. I admit that all issues and goals may not be accomplished, but at least Logsden will make the attempt. Brown has failed in nearly ALL his 2001 campaign promises. You don't know that because he won't admit it and you have either not read them or don't remember them. Why do you think he is putting ALL his rhetoric into using the non-debate to prove Logsden hates kids? Because he can't win on the REAL ISSUES!

As I have stated, Brown thinks he can "do it all." Logsden will defer to the city staff and council. That is how it is supposed to be done. Brown is a "proven entity" and it is a miserable failure. Logsden will return the city to type of government it was designed to have, a professional city staff and part time council and mayor.

Bottom line on the Tennis Center is that Brown has put the city in a very precarious financial situation. We will most likely lose. It will cost us millions. This would have not happened except for his hatred and arrogance. But it is now in the courts. The courts will decide. Logsden is a good man. He will abide by the court decision.

Brown is a "fear monger." That is his problem. He is also deceitful and will exaggerate and outright lie. Don't buy it. Give someone else a chance. It will only get better. But if you don't like Logsden after giving him a chance, simply vote him out in 4 years.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 3:04pm.

And I have heard from too many sources the Tennis Court issues were illegal.

Let the court decide. Our bashing each other on it is fruitless since we don't know all the facts and will get nowhere.

Logsdon has been silent on the issues. Platitudes and positional papers are not substantive statements.

He will not answer emails, in example, that ask the simple question is he for or against the Stormwater Utility. Day 16 with no reply.

Another has been waiting for an answer on another issues for 14 days now.

He does not answer direct questions that are reasonable and just.

If he answers question then you tell me is he for or against the Stormwater Utility?

The only solid answer I have seen is to assume the Tennis Court debt.

And World Re-known? Not much meaning when loosing money hand over fist.

No cost to us? Of course there is cost? High taxes drive people away from staying here. Plus that blocks using such tax money for better purposes.

So there was and is most assuredly an impact on us.


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Submitted by birdman on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 4:28pm.

The original agreement was to use Hotel/Motel taxes to supplement funding of the Tennis Center and Amphitheater. This would allow the costs to be reduced to the users and still promote quality programs. I believe they were never intended to be self sufficient. They are part of the "perks" for living here. Additionally the Hotel/Motel tax can only be used to promote toursim. It is very limited in it's uses. The two venues attracted a lot of people to PTC including a lot of businesses. In fact the last year under the DAPC there was about a $30,000 loss. Included in that loss was $90,000 spent defending Steve Rapson's wife's lawsuit. So the venues actually MADE about $60,000! Since the Toursim Association took over under Rapson and Weed, it has truly lost money and that is WITHOUT servicing the contentious loan. And the programs at both venues have taken gone downhill rapidly.
Again, not really trying to beat a dead horse, if Brown had left the organization in tact and simply cleaned up the accounting, it would have been supplemented by Hotel/Motel taxes and not solely taxpayer money. It wouldn't be losing money and wouldn't cost the taxpayers as much.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 11/30/2005 - 5:54pm.

They were intended to be self-sufficient.

And a perk for living here? For the chosen few? Review the membership fees and tell me it was for the average citizen.

Hmmmm. Most don't play tennis to start with. So not a "perk" for living here.

And in the black? Not so. Here is from a 2003 meeting. Founders of the Tennis Court Center were concerned about the Dev. Auth. not PTC.

http://www.peachtree-city.org/govt/councilminutes/2003/030603.htm

And they state the Tennis Center and Amphitheater under the Dev. Auth. were loosing money consistently.

They said Amphitheater ticket prices and Tennis fees were way too low and needed increased. That indoor courts were slippery. That it was turning into a school and not a facility to be used by PTC residents. Pros were using the court for free. Tournaments were being hosted at a loss. That the Dev. Auth. debt was a big concern. And more.

All this NOT under Brown but the Dev. Auth.

As for the lawsuit, it was against the Dev. Auth. not PTC. PTC had no authority in the case.

Here is a quote from a cached page, meaning a link to it will not bring up the page.
As if these actions were not bad enough, intertwined in all of this is the equal pay lawsuit of Kristi Rapson against the DAPC. The DAPC maintains that the suit has absolutely no merit and the Authority will vigorously defend itself in court...

This letter is submitted by unanimous action of the DAPC at its regular meeting, Monday, May 20, 2002.

J. Tate Godfrey

Chairman

Development Authority of Peachtree City

Brown and the Council didn't mess up the Tennis Center. It was already messed up and sinking.

http://www.peachtree-city.org/govt/councilminutes/2003/030603.htm

I believe, as others have stated, the expansion did in the Tennis Center.


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