All the networks have News Shows and Opinion/Journalist shows. There are a huge difference in the two. Brit Hume and his news show on Fox is one of the best "news" shows going. Larry King and his call in/opinion show is one of the worst of its kind, but obviously, many folks like it. That's why we have choices, we don't all like the same thing.

I think if you stick to the "news shows" on the two (CNN/FOX) networks, you will get a fairly honest accounting. It's in the opinions shows that, well, opinions really come out. That's where the $$$ is, from what I've been told.

Sorry I didn't also fault CNN, CourtTV is a special case. I just thought FOX would themselves to a Higher calling.
I made a joke? You talkin' to me? I saw no joke made in my remarks.
The point of showing the bodies coming home to Dover is that it brings the war home. It honors them by not being brought in the back door under cover of dark. Let’s talk about just having “embedded” journalist. It brings it into the living rooms of the parents of the high school Sr. that is being recruited. It brings it home to the parents and the kids that are having some pretty big bucks waved around to enlist. Hey, it just brings it HOME and that is exactly what Uncle Walter did on CBS and you just can't stand being on the losing end of mistaken policy. Now let me BASH Bush: A big err in judgment made by a mental midget. He got into Yale as a legacy. He got into the TX Air Guard w/ strings pulled. & for what good it did him he got into Harvard MBA the same way. Reading for tonight would be Mark McCormack "What They Don't Teach You at Harvard Business School." One of the principles taught is, “Don’t send people to do what you yourself would not do.”

You state: "on the losing end of mistaken policy."

Therin lies the problem for the Bush Derangment Syndrome sufferers.

There was a time in this country, not too long ago that we united behind a president, until we won whatever war or conflict we were in. No war has been perfect, hell half the colonists wanted to remain British. Remember the Civil War?

No something changed, an I for one am saddened by it. It states America does not say what it means and mean what it says, if it gets hard.

Just my opinion, just like your point of view is yours.

There has to come a time after five, plus, years of one terrible mistake in planning after another, that we the people force the nonsense to end.
It would be nice to find a way to get out with victory bugles blowing and everyone come marching home to a greatful nation, but we aren't going to find it in Iraq. The coverup we are looking for now to make it seem so will not fly. It is too late, too many stupid mistakes.
Yes. we could still win in a country we should never have invaded, but I think the people at this late date, have chosen not to do so. It would take sacrifices by us all, and an all out war with the draft and rationing, to re-occupy the place and build a cauldron around the stupid place or a line across, like in Korea.
With the army scared to death nearly of the administration (re:Walter Reed) and just try to punt to get on by the obvious mistakes to retirement, we probably can't do it anyway.
I feel sorry for these poor guys getting fired, before they can manage to retire, by the same bunch they have been trying to protect.
Do you really think the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,
Rice, and the Texas Mafia, give a darn about the military people?

I suppose it just might be better when someone dies in a catastrophe to not report about it---just get them buried.
We try our best not to even realize that over 125,000, mostly innocent, Iraqis have been killed.
If the Iraqis had done something to us that was unforgivable I could understand some of the carnage, but they didn't.
It was Afghanistan and USB!

Bush Derangement Syndrom is at full tilt, not only does he get to pretend he is concerned about dead soldiers, he slams Fox News, which at least tries to be neutral. The other networks are so slanted to the left, my TV flips on it's side.

Now, blad will site Fox's ANALYST, not their news.

The only reason blad wants caskets shown is to forward his agenda. Get on a plane and camp out at Arlignton you ghoul!

I just wanted to read without logging in, but how can anyone let this nonsense fly?

"...he slams Fox News, which at least tries to be neutral."

Are you kidding me????? I have never heard more opinions mixed in "news reports" anywhere else in my life! It isn't even subtle. Rupert Murdock has admitted the conservative bias, so save the empty statements, Army.

Why did we show President Reagan's casket and funeral? MLKs? MLK's Wife's? President Ford's? RESPECT FOR THEIR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. Period. How dare someone rationalize hiding these brave soldiers, their funeral processions, and their last rights? THAT is what I find incredibly offensive. HIDE THE TRUE COST OF WAR TO FOSTER SUPPORT FOR MISTAKEN POLICY! Brilliant. That is a hollow soap box that won't support the weight of an anorexic hamster. There is no honor in failing to acknowledge true sacrifice. Each and every soldier's funeral procession should be televised as a law enforcement officer's is. So why are they not Army and company? Why?????

Kevin "Hack" King

Fox News provides a vital service to Americans who lack the ability to think for themselves. Many of these people are brain-damaged to the extent that using their cererbral cortex for dispassionate analysis might compromise vital life support systems.

You may recall that infamous study from 2003 that stated that the typical Fox viewer thought Saddam was closely linked with Al Queda, that WMDs had been found in Iraq, and that the war in Iraq was going well. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

That's "willful ignorance" in my book.

-Basmati, who is both fair 'n balanced, albeit in a Fox News-sorta way.
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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross" - Sinclair Lewis, 1935

Your comment "Each and every soldier's funeral should be televised as a law enforcement officer's is." YES Damit!! YES!! I get my feathers ruffled about some things, and this is one of them.

I understand where pro Iraq war people come from. I just dasagree. WhAT I don't understand IS why many of them do not share my broken heart for the families who are losing loved ones every day. We don't weaken our resolve by acknowledging the true costs in lives; fathers, mothers, sons, and daughters, husbands and wives.

Kevin "Hack" King

Hack, I have to believe that anyone who HAS a heart, shares your broken heart.

Hack, you may not see the bias watching CNN, CBS, NBC, etc. You probably think the AJC is fair and balanced.

Have you read Bernie Goldberg's books, "Bias" and "Arrogance" about how the media slants stories? If not they are great reads.

Now Fox's NEWS broadcasts seem very fair to me, I see stories they cover that get no press anywhere else.

When Fox has news ANALYSTS in discussions, you will see many Democrats, NPR and liberal commentors also. That is something very rare on the other networks. Usually it is 3 liberals bashing one conservative, just a step up from "The View".

Editor and Publisher Magazine reported on MSNBC last night that Fox News had run just one video on the Walter Reed hospital scandal and had run 52 videos on the death of Anna Nichole. I predict we will soon be reading a leaked memo from Fox executives ordering "Fox News" not to report on Walter Reed because it would show the administration in a bad light.

52/1 is about their average for being fair and balanced! The FOX BABES with the short skirts must read what is writ, or out they go.
Even their questioning of someone about most anything is highly prejudiced on the republican side.
CNN is no angel either, but do on most occasions show just what is happening and let you decide if it is correct. FOX thinks it is wrong to show the public anything bad for them.

This is the same noise network that pays "Shame" Hannity and Bill "Oh-Really" to spew.

Thats proof enough for me.

I'm personally waiting for the "National Inquirer" to start its own news network and give FOX a run for their money.

FOX is truly the 'grocery store checkout" of news outlets.

You need to git a greeters job at Wallymart if you're sitting at home watching the View.

I wouldn't watch that garbage if it were the only program on.

Who hasn't Rosie attacked? Oh, yeah gays.

She "outed" Clay Aiken against his will.

I think you make the point....You only watch the "clips"...Who provides you w/ the clips? You defending the Donald's hair now?
Go back to watching Bill O'Reilly, he actually holds alot of views you might find offensive.

With the advent of the Internet - we are free from the bias of CNN, CBS,NBC,ABC, AND FOX! Read beyond the American press - see what others say about the issues of the day - then and only then can you form an unbiased opinion. We now have the technology to research issues and facts from our own home. To not use this technology to ascertain the truth of any situation is not wisdom. It worries many of us when someone says any source seems VERY FAIR. All sources report from their perspective. To be truly informed, one should arm themselves with the opinions of all involved. What do you think?

DM, I do believe that the larger your sample size, and the more sources you have to vet one against the other, the more accurate your world view will be. I do find it unnerving when a political party aligns itself with a news network and vice versa. And the internet as a source of news is an excellent way to propogate falsehoods (like Mars passing within 10,000 miles of the Earth. The UP, AP, and major networks are well respected around the planet. You tend to hear far fewer opinions on the other major networks. I truly believe this is why Fox is not global. Fox, literally, is not respected outside of conservative America. Where else can a man with a multimillion dollar sexual harrassment settlement be The Culture Warrior? it's confusing to me. I turned from Fox news as a credible source several years ago when their Fox and Friends morning show hosts joked on air about Bill and Hillary Clinton's dog committing suicide. Home renovators left the Clinton's door open and the dog was killed in traffic. I could never imagine a credible news show joking about a former president's dog committing suicide. That is just one small peice of a very large partisan pie.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

So you can't say I don't see both sides. They have Fox on at work every day. I read the Wall Street rag, NYT, USA Today, Air Force and Army Times, Citizen, so I feel fairly well informed. I have seen the Milk toasts that Fox calls liberals and they are usually an absolute joke. The Combs door mat type. I knew Foley was a Republican before Fox. I always thought "Homicide bomber" was the dumbest term in media (because all bombers are homicidal. The FUNDAMENTAL difference comes when one uses suicidal means). I heard Fox say the Libby Trial only has major coverage and importance in the liberal media, while they went ape over Anna Nicole. Anna Nicole Major! That is where Fox laid its media eggs. I've heard their "some people say" s when they have no true documentation. Like some people said Barack Obama went to a Muslim extremist School. When "some people" got that completely wrong, "some people" said it came out of the Hillary camp. And "some network" never produced evidence of any of these claims. Some network went ape when Obama said troop's lives had been wasted. Some network then somehow missed John McCain saying troop lives had been wasted. Some network said Nancy Pelosi requested a great big plane to go to Ca non stop. Some network couldn't research and find that the request was made by the Congressional Sgt at Arms. Some network thought Al Gore to be a hypocrite with a huge energy bill at home. Some network didn't research to find out that the Gores pay MORE to use green energy. Some networks carry conservative talking points regularly, and are not seen as having global credibility. Is the world one great big Ann Coulter bashing liberal bias machine? Is this another case of the rest of the world and many people in this country being wrong?
Cheers
Kevin "Hack" King

So, to be fair and balance, let me point out just a few faults of non-Fox networks:

60 Minutes:

Dan Rather forged documet non-story.

Pieces promoting the anti-Bush angles in books by Paul O'Neill,
Dick Clarke and Bob Woodward. Any pro Bush or conservative books highlighted, I think not.

Chris Matthews pointed to the former President's verbal skills when he proclaimed on Wednesday's Hardball: "There are times when he sounds like Jesus in the temple."

ABC Nightline co-host Terry Moran helped expose the anti-Christian prejudice of John Edwards' official campaign bloggers (who've since quit the campaign), asking three weeks ago on his ABCNews.com blog whether Edwards condoned "hate speech" by refusing to fire the pair. But Moran himself failed to mention the controversy in a two-segment profile of Edwards on Monday's Nightline.

On "Couric & Co.," her CBSNews.com blog, Katie Couric warned Monday that while Gore was greeted "as a secular saint" for his Oscar win, she worried about a backlash from the Bush team or conservatives or those rare scientists -- "many on the payrolls of big companies" -- who disagree with Gore's global warming alarmism.

Come on Hack, take the plank out of your eye before you try to remove the splinter in someone elses.

I admire your patriotism and respect your knowledge of 'the military'. But the anti-Bush books are proving to be more than speculation. His 'failures' are becoming more apparent everyday. This statement is not based on a 'partisan' viewpoint - but great disappointment in our 'leader'.

So who is resigning at Fox News for Kerry smears, Obama smears, Foley redirects? Let's continue with your line of thought. And, by the way, our president said, "I serve a higher father" when asked about his father's advice on invading Iraq. I can see Chris Matthew's point quite clearly. Not wanting to prove God wrong, our president will keep troops in Iraq indefinetly, and Fox News was for it before they were against it.

Speaking of planks in my eye: Who rewrote NASA's paper on global warning? Who? Oil industry politico you say? you win! Exactly right. The administration now very quietly agrees that fighting the effects of global warming is a national priority. Imagine that. My plank's doin' quite well Army.

Kevin "Hack" King

It fits the MSM agenda.

Now I respect Casey Sheehan's decision to help rescue his comrades. I wish no mom had to lose her son, but I hope if I hadn't made it back from the Gulf War, my mom would have behaved better than Cindy.

Where are the stories of the parents that beleive what their sons were fighting for? There are plenty out there, MSM news editors and producers assign stories that INFLUENCE and not inform.

This will give you a concise breakdown of the inability of the FOX network to report the news.

We watch FOX so you don't have to

Of course they have a tougher job, watching everyone beside Fox News!

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

CBS on Walter Reed: 'Last Thing Admin Can Afford Another Katrina'
Checking in on Friday's CBS Evening News with how the administration is reacting to the Walter Reed scandal, White House correspondent Jim Axelrod gratuitously brought up Katrina as he asserted that "the White House is well aware of the PR nightmare that it faces.

"Our job is to bash the President," Newsweek's Evan Thomas admits, even as ABC's Diane Sawyer takes a kinder, gentler approach with the vehemently anti-American leader of Iran: "He is dramatically sentimental and sympathetic if someone comes up and expresses a personal plight," Sawyer suggested, asking Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself: "Are you often in tears?"

Meanwhile, CNN frets about money for Iraq being "poured down the hole," CBS's Harry Smith salutes Al Gore's global warming crusade -- "Is Al Gore a prophet?" -- and HBO's Bill Maher unleashes another anti-Bush tirade sure to please liberal ears: "The man is a rube. He is a dolt. He is a yokel on the world stage."

To some degree there all slanted. It's just that with FOX it's blatant.

I tend to not only read my news, TV news tries to hard to entertain, but I read many domestic and foreign sources. I rather like creating my own version of "fair and balanced".

I do happen to agree with you that the AJC and the NYT are perhaps better used if lining the inside of a bird cage sometimes but then again, I don’t trust any single source for my information.

I find that it's not only important to know what a particular Senator or Congressman says about the Iraq war issue but I also want to know what Britton, Austria, Germany, China, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and India think as well. What the French think is not important.

You may or may not have been following a news item about David Hicks, the Australian detained at Guantanamo Bay on terrorism charges. It’s interesting to me to see how the US Govt. is now going after his lawyer because their case against Mr. Hicks has degraded into an international disaster.

When you read the same story from multiple sources you get a better sense of who’s telling the truth and who’s “spinning”.

Well, if you had tuned into CNN last night, the show "Special Investigations Unit" had an hour-long feature on a reserve Marine combat engineer battalion that was sent to Iraq, how their unit suffered casualties on their first mission, and how the families of four Marines killed coped with their loss. It was very moving.