Mt. Olive Float was Intentional

I think this was done intentionally, to offend people. What do the rest of you think?

This is really just a vicious cycle, the hate seems to be never ending. Blacks still hate white people after 40yrs. When will blacks let the healing begin? Why do they go out of their way to be offensive? Are they trying to drive us off like they did the white people in Clayton crime county?

I did not grow up in the south, and I'm not used to this kind of racial hate.

The racial hate I have experienced in the south is unlike anything I have ever seen.

I'm sad to say that the way blacks behave here, with their outward hate towards whites and their sense of entitlement.....they have taught me to hate.....I wish we could break the cycle.

What do the rest of you think?

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Submitted by Basmati on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 6:33pm.

The Mount Olive float was intentional? Well, if the intent was to provoke, they can say "mission accomplished". Was it in poor taste? Definitely.

I'm wondering how I would have done things differently...I mean, how would you depict the Bull Connor era that was an integral part of the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr's life when all you have is assorted African Americans of various shapes, sizes and ages? I don't know.

In any event, I am sitting here shaking my head at the situational outrage oozing from some of the bloggers here. Personally, I think it's a tad presumptuous of them to demand an apology on behalf of the white race.


Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 7:01pm.

I think black people are presumptuous everytime they file a frivolous lawsuit, or false claim of racism.

I think they absolutely enjoy seeing this kind of disharmony, and anger that their outrageous behavior provokes.

This is exactly how they have broken up neighborhoods and communities in the past.(clayton crime county being the most recent example)

I think as citizens of Fayette County we need to stand united against any group whose purpose is to offend, and incite anger. I think this church absolutely needs to apologize for the "message" of their float.

I think what most people here are upset about is the blatant hypocrisy.
They would have had every black group, and jessie jackson demanding an apology of us if the shoe had been on the other foot.

I think what I'm saying is, ..that what is good for one person is good for the other person. They can't have it both ways if they want to be equal. Either the rules apply to everyone equally, or they don't.

But if you want to be treated as an equal, and treated with respect, then you have to treat everyone with respect. They did not treat us with the same respect they demand of us.

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Submitted by Basmati on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 7:27pm.

I think black people are presumptuous everytime they file a frivolous lawsuit, or false claim of racism.
Change "black" to "all" in the above statement and I'll agree with ya whole-heartedly. Having said that, though, our court system is where citizens petition for redress against wrongs....it negates the need for "vigalante justice". I'd rather have a judge declare someone's charges to be without merit.

I think they absolutely enjoy seeing this kind of disharmony, and anger that their outrageous behavior provokes. Provacateurs are not limited to one specific race, but I agree that some elements of society do get their jollies tweaking others noses.

This is exactly how they have broken up neighborhoods and communities in the past.(clayton crime county being the most recent example) Personally, I think the fact that Clayton by and large has a lower socioeconomic base than Fayette has more to do with the crime rate than race. Might be a good topic for a side discussion.

I think as citizens of Fayette County we need to stand united against any group whose purpose is to offend, and incite anger. I think this church absolutely needs to apologize for the "message" of their float. I think the majority of people will stand up against perceived wrongs.

I think what most people here are upset about is the blatant hypocrisy.
They would have had every black group, and jessie jackson demanding an apology of us if the shoe had been on the other foot.
Rightly or wrongly, America as become sensitized against slights against racial minorities. I think we as a people are working through it in this day and age. Jesse Jackson, one of the favorite bogeymen of the Right, holds very little influence nowadays vs. say twenty years ago. His time has past.

I think what I'm saying is, ..that what is good for one person is good for the other person. They can't have it both ways if they want to be equal. Either the rules apply to everyone equally, or they don't. Couldn't have said it better myself.

But if you want to be treated as an equal, and treated with respect, then you have to treat everyone with respect. They did not treat us with the same respect they demand of us. Perhaps. Personally, I choose to lead by example.


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Submitted by Enigma on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 7:00pm.

I personally would have apologized; however, if coerced, what good is it?


Submitted by skyspy on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 7:10pm.

It wouldn't be sincere if they did apologize. This whole incident is irritating.

How do we break the cycle of hate?

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Submitted by Enigma on Sun, 01/28/2007 - 7:42pm.

In my opinion, we need to recognize the importance of forgiveness for things that occurred before most of us were born, to those who most of us never knew. And I think we must come to the understanding that we all want the same things:

We all want to feel safe, feel valued, and have the ability to raise our children and share in the nation’s prosperity. We all want a fair shot at self improvement and promotion, and the opportunity to leave our children with a better world than we inherited. We want security, freedom and the ability to operate without the encumbrance of a government that controls rather than protects.

Secondly, and because of our common desires, we should not allow things like The Congressional Black Caucus, Black Ms. America, BET, United Negro College Fund, etc., etc., etc. to go on without being challenged and identified for what it is: Racism, divisive, and discriminatory. Brown vs. Board of Education should have put those things to rest. We MUST move forward.

It was wrong when blacks were deprived of opportunity and it’s wrong when whites are deprived of opportunity. I share Dr. King’s sentiment that we should aspire to be a nation “that judges a person by the content of their character and not the color of their skin”.


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Submitted by Basmati on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 1:11pm.

The United Negro College Fund does not discriminate based on race. Anyone is eligible to apply for a UNCF scholarship.

BET is a private corporation that caters to a niche: African American culture. In that regard it fills a perceived need, not unlike the various Spanish language channels. It receives no public funding. How is this racist and/or divisive?

I wonder why your list is exclusively oriented towards African American organizations? Is your outrage situational or does it expand to include the Knights of Columbus, Italian American Friendship league, Polish Veterans Association, etc?


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Submitted by Enigma on Wed, 01/31/2007 - 9:51am.

I was remaining on topic basmati. I will address your red herrings although I will reserve my disdain for clubs like Knights of Columbus for another day since it is based on religion.

You can change your interests, you can change your religion, but you cannot change your race.

Any club or organization that uses RACE as it's criteria for inclusion or exclusion is, in my opinion, WRONG.

If someone wants to have a CLUB that is based on common INTERESTS, like several of your examples, I am for it. People have the right to assemble; however, that doesn’t mean I support the purpose of all of those clubs or agree with their reasons for being.

If someone wants to have an ORGANIZATION based on interests, that others with like interests can participate in, I may question the motives and funding (and FCC license approval) and may not like or agree with it, but hey, go for it.

However, if or when you EXCLUDE a person based on race, like the Congressional Black Caucus denied a lifelong Democrat and minority advocate like Congressman Cohen, just to "keep the organizational membership exclusively African-American" or any other race, in my opinion, that's absolutely, without question, wrong.

Of course, that's just my opinion.


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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 01/31/2007 - 4:15pm.

Well said, that's my opinion too! Smiling

Thanks for the nice comments that you (and mark) made about me to the Irish3 person.

I think both of you are wonderful people. Smiling

God Bless


Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 01/31/2007 - 12:02pm.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070131-121248-8802r.htm

Yes, racism is alive and well in the South!!

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Submitted by parent on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 9:29am.

Enigma, you are 100% right! Why do they get special priviledges, with their all black associations? And, Yes, they use the race card to get ahead in society and the sad thing about is, "we", the white race sit back and let it happen. The majority of the blacks who use this method are lazy good for nothing individuals...but they get what they want because the white man gives into threats of racist law suits. We need someone with guts, like you to represent us in this society.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 8:00pm.

Ahhs gonna sue yous and takes yo haus foe wut yous juss sed!

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 8:19pm.

Good to know that you're back!

You can be Secretary Of State! Smiling


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 10:57pm.

Thanks for the welcome. Please don't hunt around for my recent posts. Some of them aren't very nice. But I'm always a gentleman where you are concerned. Smiling

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 1:59pm.

Hack, Believe me I'm NOT always nice. Having brothers (military) and two of my children are male, I have more than likely heard it all, and said some of it myself. Smiling

I have great respect for military people such as yourself. Also for veterans like Enigma and myword_mark. I appreciate all of you.
All three of you say what you mean, and mean what you say!
Smiling


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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 9:42am.

I second that nomination, and nominate myword_mark for vice president!
Smiling


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Submitted by DragNet on Wed, 01/31/2007 - 6:57pm.

And I nominate myself to Secretary of State. I have better looks than Condon-leezza and more brains, too. I'll fix the Iraq mess over dinner with Ahmed and Mohammed.

Keep blogging!

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