Have you driven through there lately? Goodness, I hate to think what's going to happen when they poor another three to five thousand cars a day through the 54/74 intersection.

You mentioned drowning with an additional 3000 to 5000 cars. This is WAY under the actual increases coming within a decade, which will easily be ten fold (30,000 to 50,000) more vehicles when the City of Mcintosh is built out. If you study the map, the City of Mcintosh will actually be the 6th village of PTC, except for one huge difference - - it will not be inside PTC or Fayette County - - hence we get no benefit (unless we happen to be a Coweta landowner of somehow work in a development related industry).

There are probably 10,000 vpd coming regardless of TDK just from our own Fayette County development. TDK will just be huge additional liability.

My point is that it's going to be a real nightmare with only 3 - 5K. Scary...Huh?

As far as Enigma below goes I understand the growth is inevitable. It's not about whether we will grow but how we grow it. What's going to happen when it booms below Brooks and East of Seonia. Arrgghhh!

I know CJ. My hope is that when I die CJ won't know my name.

Just imagine what it will be like in 50 years...Oh my gosh!

And to think that we used to race cars up and down Shakerag with nary a car in sight! Actually, I can recall the truckstop on 85, Jordan Salvage, and Travis Hardware being the three places that you could always find the local gossip if Kenny Melear didn't have it.

I remember when the Masonic Lodge was new. I remember when there was No McIntosh, No Sandy Creek, No Starr's Mill (school I mean), No Whitewater (school again) and Fayette County High was two flat buildings with an ugly excuse for a baseball field and a tiny old cafeteria.

Back then - there were NO glof carts, no one ever went to Coweta...why would you do that? The Japanese didn't have PTC all laid out yet and kids drove trucks to school - at 14 or 15 (Bobby Kerlin don't you even try to deny it!)

Seems everyone now is complaining about putting up with the same thing we have been watching happen around here for years: more people, more cars, more houses, more crime, more traffic, more cart paths, more kids, more bad parents, more red lights, more highways, more strangers and more planned communities.

The Trammell's keep getting richer, the Jones boys are now building too, and the Huddlestons have long given up on being able to call everyone in town by name. Carl Mowell and Bo Huddleston bury people they don't even know now ... who would have ever thunk it!?

So, anyway, all that to say - What's new??

Enigma reponds to the very critical issue of extreme traffic congestion lowering PTC real estate values and our quality of life with inane comments about how rural this place used to be. Enigma, we all enjoyed your pointless recollections of what life once was, but your analogy falls very short. This is a master planned community that is about to be destroyed with traffic that was never projected to be routed through here. The citizens that bought here were told this type of thing would never happen. Now we are being sold out by some petty politicans all in search of a little extra green for themselves and a few friends. What happens in Coweta County is up to the citizens of that county, but we don't have to pay for it on our side of the creek.

Anyone who has lived in Fayette Co. for more than 20 years has seen
a dramatic change,especially in the south and west sides. The writing has been on the wall for as far back as I can remember, yet nothing
has been done to curtail the grow or acommadate the growth. I just recently told friends that it takes longer to get out of the county
than it takes to get from 74 & I85 to the topend of 285. Astounding!
Yes, it USE to take 25 minutes to get to the airport. Not anymore.
Fayette Co. has promoted itself too well, to the detriment of it's
citizens. One politician has not been much better than the one before him. Just look at where we have arrived.

I have made the trip many, many times to and from the north side of Atalanta and you are correct; it takes longer to get from the south end (or west side) of Fayette to I85, I75 or I285 via 74, 85, 54, or 19-41 than it takes to get to anywhere downtown or on the northside of Atlanta once you get out of Fayette. On the north end, Riverdale traffic now extends non-stop in to downtown Fayetteville. On the south end, highways 34 and 74 are now at gridlock most times.

As I reflected in an earlier blog, I can recall when you could litterally RACE through Fayette in a matter of minutes. Pick a route - it was no traffic and few lights. Growth is nothing new here - it's just that 'save the city', et.al. have now been here long enough to see the latest round of (proposed) changes. And as J. Roberts once said "... better get used to it, cause they ain't going nowhere" - of course back then he was talking about the yankees

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

YOU are the problem to those of us who preceded you ...planned community and all. As for your 'planned community', (Great plan if you are short cited, huh?) it sure as hell wasn't 'OUR plan'.

YOU, my suburban autist, are as much a source of the problem as anyone is, has been, or will be.

You see, while most people begin life with an egocentric point of view, most people outgrow this infantile stage of 'me'. You narcissists that call yourself 'Save Our'(Peachtree)City' are looking down the barrell of the same gun you used to blow away our lifestyle and our rural community (that YOU consider 'inane') a few short years ago.

So, when you 'stroll down memory lane', remember my ... "inane comments about how rural this place used to be."

Enjoy my "pointless recollections of what life once was". And remember, "This is a master planned community that is about to be destroyed with traffic that was never projected to be routed through here." I wonder if they said that about Atlanta?

((That is so ironic that you made those curt comments in the very same blog where you so deeply lament all of these current changes ... and are too egocentric to even see the similarities!))

Just try to realize that YOU, my obtuse ally, helped construct my 'memory lane' and it sure as heck wasn't 'OUR' "Master plan"!

Regardless, you must now face reality my naive comrade. Now that your "memory lane" is being constructed by yet a newer group of people who don't care the least about your inevitable 'stroll down memory lane' or 'desire for the past' you really need to stop being such a hypocrite.

Your memory lane will be no more, and no less, relevant than mine. If my lifestyle of the past is irrelevant, then so my dearest dolt is yours.

Enjoy the upcoming changes "save or city" and enjoy watching your 'lifestyle' and 'property values' be manipulated by a group of people with a 'Master Plan' just as we 'old timers' have in the last 40 years.

Again, remember, just because you don't like 'it' doesn't mean 'it' isn't going to happen. What has once been done to 'us' is now being done to 'you' (ironic isn't it?). Your property values will change, your lifestyle and 'quality of life' will change. The crime rate will increase and you will one day be the one who says "I remember when".

Your time spent getting from point A to Point B will increase, and your kids will not enjoy the life and community you thought they would when you moved here. (Oh, for the record, I do not live in Coweta County and never have. I did, however, live and own property in what you so affectionately refer to as "Peachtree City". My family might have even owned your subdivision - green space and all.)

In conclusion: A wiser man would have read through the literal meaning of my previous blog and inferred the metaphoric. But alas, some people are so blinded by their self-absorbed existance that no one else matters, no previous change is relevant, and no analogy is possible (since truely they are the ONLY one to have ever suffered such a fate!).

Not unlike those nasty developers and 'master planners' that you are so apprehensive about, some of YOU are a part of the master planners' scheme of yesteryear.

You are certainly not the first to cry "save our city". The more things change- the more they stay the same.

Does that help make my 'stroll down memory lane' be a little more relevant to you 'save our city'??

Why do keep repeating ----it sure as heck wasn't 'OUR' "Master plan"!

What does that mean? You either own the land and you hire the planner or you don't. The "plan" was very clear to everyone that bothered to look at it, unlike most other places where the plan is changed everytime some one wants to rezone something. In PTC the plan was changed twice in 40 years - not bad.

When you sell the land, you don't get to make the "plans" anymore. More to the point, when you buy into a community, part of what you are buying is the plan - meaning the actual plan, not some fantasy interpretation - but the real plan.

If you want to be a complete purist regarding the plan - then scrap TDK extension. And while you are at it scrap McDuff extension, Rockaway realignment, Williams Circle buyout and redevelopment and anything else that isn't specifically in the "plan"
meow

Every stage of growth has someone in opposition. Growth means change. People often oppose change. For Enigma is was the start up of Peachtree City (even though he obviously didn't want it) and the loss of his rural lifestyle. For others it's the TDK extension or the development of McIntosh Woods or whatever you want to name it. The addition of 3k-5k homes and the traffic and changes associated with it are what now have many upset.

Some people wouldn't want to live in a city this small. Most who moved here however wanted it to stay the same. Some don't want it to be any larger. I can feel for Enigma - he has already been through what many of us are now going through. I feel sure that is what he was saying before his anology was discounted as inept by 'save our city'. His loss was your gain...now your loss will be someone elses gain .... and the cycle goes on.

Some of us who USED to live in what is now "Peachtree City" NEVER wanted to see the "Planned Community" come to fruition. The fact that it changed (twice?) in the last several years is irrelevant to me.

I couldn't care less about the TDK extension, McDuff extension, Rockaway realignment, Williams Circle buyout and redevelopment and anything else that isn't specifically in the "plan" or any other road project you are now 'planning' (I love how you all throw that term 'planned' around). You ran me out of town a long time ago.

You didn't support Steve Brown (or did you) but he became YOUR mayor here in PTC didn't he? You see kitty cat, you don't have to support change for it to come to your town.

The blog you decided to 'chime in on' was written in response to 'save our city' saying that my 'stroll down memory lane' was 'inane' (as if it were a rant about a former mayor or something silly like that).

The original intent was to let you know that your life, and this community, are in a constant state of change. This is NOT new- despite your assertion that only two revisions to the "plan" have occured. You see, it's not the changes- it's the ORIGINAL PLAN that affected some of us, meow.

If 'we' (50 plus year former residents of Shakerag) had followed my planning desires, you would now be living in Pike County or elsewhere and we would still be a rural community with no golf carts and no trffic.

I have no desire to live in the suburbs or in a city - which is why I no longer do. If you and 'save our city' feel that way - move like I did.

You remind me of those who constantly protest against the catholic church and want the church to come to you - as opposed to you finding a religion (in this case lifestyle) that fits you. Growth here is inevitable.... either grow or go. I left - maybe you should too.

Ruff ruff

People like me, huh? Read it again!
And Newman is behind your "at." You could have said where that is.
"Makes me wonder" too. ( I don't know why I put the italics, maybe because you did it, at).