TDK for the uninformed

Allow me to represent the uninformed masses on the TDK issue. Truth is, I don't know much about it but I want to have an informed position. I can think of two sides to this issue and I'm sure someone will help me with a third. First, I am of the opinion that we here in PTC do not OWN 74 or access to the interstate. If that were the case and counties widened roads based on how it would only help their tax base than we would be in quite a mess on 74 north of Fayette in Fulton County. Second, why do some on the Council want the extension? Is it to help out the Crosstown shopping center? I just can't understand why PTC needs the extension. I am admittedly uninformed and need guidance on this issue. Also, don't give me the “politicians are in the developers pockets” thing...I don't buy it (not without proof anyway).

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Fri, 12/15/2006 - 9:43pm.

Peachtree City doesn't like having to pay for something they don't want and will make their life worse!!!!! Simple enough ?

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Submitted by CCB on Fri, 12/15/2006 - 5:14pm.

Yes, Mr. Concerned Citizen, if all you know is all you wrote, you are out of the loop for sure.

Let me admit, I'm bias on the issue of TDK. I've been in favor of it since the get-go. I feed and shelter my family as well as donate to charitable causes by making a living dealing in real estate development. I don't do a lot in Fayette County, but if an opportunity arose, I would certainly look at East Coweta. So you now have full disclosure.

I believe the major problems with the TDK issue are Harold Logsdon, Jim Pace and Bob Lenox. Those three individuals have consistently lied to the general public about the true purpose of the road since they have been involved.

Whenever you purposefully mislead people, especially if you are in a leadership position, there will eventually be a resounding crash. We are in the crash stage now.

Had our leaders taken an honest approach and told us the truth about the road, we could be having a civil discussion on how to develop our little corner of the world the best way possible. We might of had a chance to land a win-win situation with Coweta County.

There is no doubt that Steve Brown was right on TDK in terms of the impact. I don't think there is any doubt he was right on his I-85 interchange position either.

Most of the people in Peachtree City let a bunch of egocentric losers take over the discussion, so the prevailing message was the lie of TDK saving our city. In reality, we would have been a lot better off if the developers had joined with Steve Brown and said, yes, there is a negative impact associated with the road expansion, so how can we make things better?

I worked on a very large development in Canton where we worked with the local officials and citizens for almost a year to address their concerns and make them feel comfortable with the project. We ended up making some considerable changes so that everyone would be happy.

Jim Pace, Bob Lenox and later Harold Logsdon pointed in the air and yelled "look over there" while they tried to sneak an elephant behind our backs. What this does is make the development industry look like a bunch of shysters. Harold Logsdon has stretched the truth so much in one year that I think he has lost all his credibility. You won't find many people satisified with the government walking around Peachtree City these days. The police have no respect for his lack of leadership either as announced in the newspaper.

The situation now is the developers and the elected officials in Coweta County won't have anything to do with Peachtree City. They are unwilling to negotiate anything because they think the deal is in the bag. They want to ram about 85,000 cars down Peachtree City's throat.

On the other hand, the traffic numbers are real bad and road infrastructure problems are on the horizon in Peachtree City. They also have a bad taste in their mouth from being lied to for three or four years.

Can things be resolved? Let's just say your guess is as good as mine. Steve Brown knew what he was talkng about and he is as vicious as a pitbull. The good ole boys were just too arrogant to work with him and now look at the mess we've got. There is just not a lot of confidence in Harold Logsdon as a statesman where Steve Brown may have been able to get that job done.

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 12/15/2006 - 7:56pm.

Now that we know who you are and I for one certainly have great respect for you.

Yes the Lenox crowd should have more honest about what they wanted to accomplish with TDK.

And yes, they should have included Brown in their discussions and negotiations.

And (here's the gotcha) Brown should have have shed his anti-business diatribe and approached the leadership respectfully and politely - instead of the public attacks and personal attention crap.

Fault on both sides? Yes.
Winner - Lenox.
Loser - Brown.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 12/16/2006 - 8:54am.

Give it up. Most people see you and harold and the developers as the zero eithics liars that you are.

You are right bob/harold you lied and you won. You won only because the people here are so apathetic. You are not the stunning success you think you are. You won only because the people here are too lazy to vote or go to liar meetings(oooopppppsss, I mean council meetings.

No, the average citizen does not have any hard proof of money exchanged under the table,......that's why it is called "money under the table" because white collar criminals don't want anyone to know what is really going on. Beacause of the the dishonesty and defensive vitriolic verbage you have dispalyed, we know intinctively you are anything but honest.

Happy Hanukkah

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 12/15/2006 - 4:40pm.

There is little more to know than you have enumerated. A road is needed out of a whole new city across TDK, and Coweta county nor the state will build one in Coweta county. At one time we (PTC) thought we needed the road for people to get to Coweta county from Fayette county, and of course back---thus avoiding the 54/74 intersection.
That was not true of course since all that was needed was a four lane road and bridges from 74 to Newnan. The only thing done wrong there was not bridging over 74 with 54 instead of creating the horror of that intersection now.
The cities being built in Coweta need a road of four lanes through Coweta county to I-85, not shuttled into Fayette. It is inexcusable to destroy PTC traffic with Coweta traffic, especially with our money.
Now, can you guess why developers wouild prefer to develop near PTC, or through Coweta county?

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 12/16/2006 - 11:40am.

That is why it is not being done here. We are almost full.

As far as Brown and his feelings, they have changed for sure. In 03 he said himseslf and the entire Council were for the road. Now the wind has shifted, and he's against it, imagine that. As far as I'm concerned, the ship has sailed on this issue.

I think it needs to be built, and left a 2 LANE road. The folks on the Coweta side have a MUCH bigger need to use it than I ever will.

Submitted by Concerned Citizen on Fri, 12/15/2006 - 5:10pm.

Uhhh, tax incentives? The land in PTC has better potential to be valuable? Corruption (this would require some proof on your part)?

Can someone tell me why some Council members are pro-TDK blvd?

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