I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine.
My parents spanked us (My brother Sister and I), but never out of anger. If we did something wrong and it angered my parents, they would wait until they were no longer mad and then punish us. We were never spanked anywhere other than the behind. And when the punishment was over the parent would sit down and explain what we did wrong and that they still loved us, but not our behavior/actions.
I plan on using the same course of action when Im a parent. I've seen all too much what kids are like when they aren't disciplined.

There is a difference between abuse and spanking. We are seeing the end "product" of kids who have never been spanked. Everyday in the news we hear of kids who are out of control.

In college I had a psychology professor who told the class that, his peers would tell us that "spanking damages kids". He went on to say that most of them were child psychologists and they had a vested interest in all of us believing this lie. That is how child psychologists make their living,....by "treating" kids who are out of control. They have an interest, a very big monetary interest in you believing this lie. When you get sick of dealing with your out-of control-kid, you will turn to them for help.

How do you think they make money? By taking care of kids who are well behaved?

Well, strictly speaking, "There are people who physically abuse their children" does not entail "All physical punishment is abuse."

That's the fallacy that is committed by the PC among us.

When my kids were growing up, the rare spanking involved a wooden spoon from the kitchen. It is incapable of causing *injury*, but quite capable of stinging.

And, again, it was reserved only for those times of willful defiance. Further, it is entirely possible for such to be administered in a spirit of love and out of concern for the child--not to vent parental anger.

An anecdote:

My former neighbors had a little boy named Tommy. Tommy acted up in some way one time. His mom chose to give him a time out in a chair in the same room where she was. Tommy refused to stay in the chair. She shifted the time out to his room. "Tommy, you must stay in your room until I tell you you can come out." Tommy came out and refused to stay. She locked the door to his room so that Tommy could not come out on his own accord. Tommy urinated in the carpet.

Without solmething decisive like a spanking to back up these other attempts at discipline, what's left?

Sometimes, the answer, "Because I'm the mom and I say so" is absolutely sufficient. Even, "Because I'm bigger than you" is appropriate with some insubordinate children.

Some people seem incapable of understanding this.

Git a life dude. Why do I get the feeling that your kid is a monster.

Something different....this is a wonderful story! This school is near College Park.
This video about Gerard and the football coach is very touching. It's not all about who wins the game. It's about a young man who was given a chance to play. This young man will remember this night forever.
We need to recognize more good people like this coach.
God bless him and Gerard/Radio. Thank you AJC.