CAPTAIN SARCASM: You are either a tennis center wife or you are having a rough time with your Labor Day Weekend bender. Come in to port, put down the Captain Morgan and use your mind:

1. 30% more? I got my tax bill - it's a little bigger, but my house appraised for more than last year.

OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT, AND YOU DON’T MIND HIGHER TAXES….OR, YOU ARE ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT NEEDS TO GET PAID FOR THE CRAPPY WORK YOU DID ON THE TENNIS CENTER. PROPERTY VALUES GO UP; MILLAGE RATE GOES DOWN; TAXES STAY THE SAME. THAT IS WHAT REPUBLICANS DO. YOU DON’T MIND HIGHER TAXES ? GO CAMPAIGN FOR CYNTHIA MCKINNEY’S COMEBACK.

2. Corruption? Did anybody get arrested or cited for corruption?

THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL SAID THAT THE DEAL WAS ILLEGAL. THE GBI SAID MORE INVESTIGATION WAS NEEDED. DID THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY CALL FOR MORE INVESTIGATIONS TO CLEAR THE AIR??? NO, THEY CRAPPED THEIR PANTS…NO EXONERATION PARTY THERE…CLINTON GOT A BETTER RESULT FROM KEN STARR THAN THE PTC CROWD GOT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.

3. Cronysm? Didn't 75% of those that voted vote for Logsdon?

LOGSDON WON…UHHHHHM YEAH…….IS THERE A COHERENT THOUGHT IN THERE ?

4. Anti-planned community? Is he alone making these decisions?

NO….HE ALONE IS NOT MAKING THESE DECISIONS; HE IS JUST LEADING THE WAY. AND YES HE IS UNABASHEDLY ANTI-PLANNED COMMUNITY.

5. High crime? I'm sorry, but I miss that one. There's more higher profile reported crimes in Fayette County lately, but that can happen, and I think goes in spurts.

ITS CALLED FORWARD THINKING….YOU THINK THERE IS MORE CRIME IN FAYETTE, WHY ??? THE PAVILIION ??? GUESS WHAT, HAROLD IS GIVING US A PAVILION AND WE DON’T EVEN HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO ADD MORE COPS OR DEPUTIES. OH YEAH, YOU TRUST BUTT HUNTER TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT CRIME….GOOD MOVE.

6. Developers always win, citizens lose? Can you compare how many rezonings and annexation requests are coming up now versus in the past? Maybe some facts to back it up?

YOU SOUND LIKE THE DEMOCRATS THE SPRING AND SUMMER OF BUSH’S FIRST TERM IN OFFICE BELITTLING HIS CONCERNS ABOUT TERRORISM.

7. Logsdon negotiated and fully supports the TDK deal. Yeah, so do I? Any additional way to get back and forth into Coweta is good. Isn't 74 going to be 4 to 6 lanes anyway? I think the DOT saw this one coming.

SORRY, BUT EVEN THE FORMER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRESIDENT HOFRICHTER SAYS “BAD IDEA , DUDE !!! “

8. He’s anti-Peachtree City business. OK, he's for developers, but against business? I'm sorry, but I'm beginning to lose you on this one.

LET ME DRAW YOU A PICTURE…YOU HAVE A STRUGGLING RETAIL CENTER (BRAELINN). SO WHAT DOES LOGSDON ADD--- (1) BOTTLENECK TRAFFIC AND (2) COMPETITION WHAT WILL EXCEED THE SIZE OF THE FAYETTEVILLE. CAN YOU SAY VACANCY-VILLE ?

9. Low employee morale. I wouldn't know, but I haven't seen a lot of open jobs on the PTC website that aren't new jobs.

HUH???? SO CUTTING FIREMEN’S BENEFITS IS GOOD….C’MON NOW— YOU MUST BE A PILOT’S WIFE WHO PLAYS TENNIS AT THE LEAKY PACE PAVILION AND THE WORST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU IS THE LOSS OF YOUR CONDO IN DESTIN. I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THAT CALLOUS COMMENT THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE OUR PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES.

Does anyone do anything on this website based in facts? I ask questions and I get "I'm a democrat" and "I'm a pilot's wife".

Like intheknow, I'm a city employee too. I decided to blog in my offtime, and I'm allowed to have an opinion. I have seen three mayors in my time, and I think things aren't as "horrible" as people are making out.

Politics shouldn't be as cruel as some of you folks are. I hate to tell you, I don't think you know what you're talking about....

To Tortugaocho and any of his whining friends,

I felt a need to address your “Top 10” list which makes many accusations about Mayor Logsdon of Peachtree City, I’d like to interject just a few statements of my own, being “intheknow”.

First, while my taxes are going up a little, it certainly isn’t 30%. Even if it was, I’ve lived elsewhere in our great country, and paid many times more in property taxes on much smaller property, and received far less services. I’ve been amazed for quite some time, at just how Peachtree City provides so much for the minimal tax I do pay. For all those whom have lived in other parts of the country, which in Peachtree City is many, I’m also amazed at how much these same people seem to complain about taxes.

Your claim of corruption seems to refer to the DAPC loans, which some people seem to think the city isn’t ultimately responsible for. I don’t use the Tennis Center, don’t even know anyone that does, but the DAPC board was appointed by the city, making the city liable for any loans they had. As far as I’m concerned, sell it off to pay the debts, probably wouldn’t be a line of buyers though, and would we get what its worth. Didn’t this whole DAPC controversy help Cal sell a lot of ads and newspapers. I certainly don’t like the way some of our “volunteer” citizens, whom gave of their time to serve on this board were ultimately treated, especially with the many slanderous accusations made by our last mayor, you know the one – I think the phrase “every village has one” suits him best.

Speaking of the last mayor, you know the one, from the tone of your blog, you seem to have been a supporter of his. You talk about our present mayor being anti-business, what exactly was Brown? As I recall, one of his early, maybe first letters to “The Citizen” made mention of his buying his home in Peachtree City (Planterra Ridge Subdivision to be exact), and looking out the window and seeing a factory behind his home. That factory which had been there for many years, at one time, one of the cities largest employers and largest taxpayers is no more – gone. Guess Steve got his wish, as HE DIDN”T LIKE IT THERE. Guess we’ll all have to kick in a little more on our taxes to make up for that revenue loss.

Your rant about the TDK extension, what’s with that – that’s something that’s been in the works for YEARS, and not something the present council came up with. Additional arteries between Fayette and Coweta are long overdue, and should have been built years ago. Better access to the city from east Coweta will have many positive impacts. Sure, something will sprout up on the other side, only a moron could say different, wish I could afford some property. Coweta is growing by leaps and bounds, and Mayor Logsdon and the City of Peachtree City Council has NO WAY to dictate what is built there. Your reference “He’s anti-Peachtree City business. Logsdon favors building the huge shopping centers outside the border depriving our businesses and lowering our sales tax revenues.” is absurd. They have no control over what goes on in Coweta, just as years ago when Fayette County rezoned the property, which was the front of Shiloh Mobile Home Park. The City council back then fought against the commercial rezoning BY OUR OWN COUNTY for Peachtree East Shopping Center – it still happened!

You mention crime, sure its here, but it’s also obvious that you don’t want to pay for additional law enforcement – yes protection comes at a price. If you want to push out the criminal element, it’s going to require more officers patrolling, that’s going to require tax increases or more business / industry to pay for it.

You make mention of “the grass”, guess what, there aren’t enough employees to maintain the aesthetics that brought people here. For years, most notably during the “Steve Brown Years” the city hadn’t added needed infrastructure, in the form of employees. For many, many years the city has boasted the fact that city employees got more done than any other similar sized city, this based on the fact that Peachtree City has always had the least amount of employees of any similar sized cities in the state. Many requests by department heads for staffing increases during the Brown years were denied. Every year more lawn and landscape has been added, but not people to maintain it; more streets, houses and businesses to patrol, but not officers to patrol them; more vehicles and machines to maintain, but not mechanics to work on them; etc…

Now lets dispute your “Employee Morale” statement. First, how do you get your information, you mention “low employee morale” AS IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING. Low employee morale WAS the theme under Steve Browns administration. He made a laughing stock of all of us, both locally and regionally; yes he was our village idiot. Employees from top to bottom rejoiced with his re-election loss, I think there was even a department head party that week, although that may be just a rumor. Brown tore down everything good that had taken years to accomplish, and made Peachtree City what it was, and brought so many people here. The city lost many dedicated long term employees during his tenure, and it appeared that anything that wasn’t Brown’s idea was bad, and wasn’t good unless he came up with it. A part-time mayoral position became a full time micromanagement dictatorship (against city charter), which ultimately in the end will cost probably millions. Yes, as in the end, MANY of his actions of tearing down what had been built up, will impact us all for years and ultimately cost untold amounts of taxpayer dollars.

Your statement “SO CUTTING FIREMEN’S BENEFITS IS GOOD” further erodes your credibility. Not only am I a city resident, but a career “FIREFIGHTER” proudly working for the City of Peachtree City Fire Department. Yes, we’re FIREFIGHTERS, NOT “FIREMEN”, and it’s the year 2006, health care costs have effected all sectors of private industry and government, and many of us (city employee’s) are smart enough to realize the realities of business. Sure, the excellent benefits we’ve enjoyed for years are going to cost us a little more in employee contributions. I feel more for the lower paid city employees in public works, as this additional contribution will impact them even more. Then, add the proposed cuts to the COLA (cost of living adjustment), which has been 2% for years, appears that it may be cut to 1% this year. Add the proposed merit appraisal system cuts, which will probably negatively impact all city employees as well, and its not good. But than again, we don’t have to suffer the regular public embarrassment, which made the headlines regularly and got our previous mayor a lot of television news grandstanding.

I’m willing to take a few cuts, as we’re often reminded of our residents opposition to any tax increases, as long as we don’t cut services. I’m a taxpayer, and am willing to pay some more for service improvements, to maintain the reasons I moved to Peachtree City, not only the aesthetics but more importantly, safety. If you don’t like what we have and don’t want to contribute in taxes – move. There are many rural areas to the south of us; of course there aren’t a whole lot of services there. Want to reduce your commute; maybe some of the rural area’s of South Fulton would be for you, then again services – I’ve heard of ambulance wait times of 30 minutes or more being common place of late – of course you get what you pay for. If you don’t want to pay, then you’ll probably be the one writing about your long wait for an ambulance, police or fire response, or as in your blog, “the uncut longer grass”.

Intheknow – Taxpayer and City Employee / Firefighter

She'll bring in all the sockpuppets now, intheknow. You may be the first to actually respond to any of them.

God help us! intheknow's post is so full of Direct PAC's trashy lies, it's sickening. What a complete and utter boob.

You are not a fire fighter, what a lie. The most dangerous plant in Fayette County leaves and that's a problem how?

Brown exposed the corruption and you guys got your frail little egos smashed. Whine, whine, whine: "Steve Brown caused all our problems!" "He forced Bob Lenox to do bad things!" "Harold Logsdon is all good!"

Who are you really? Dufresne or Green?

I have nothing to do with Direct PAC, I'm NOT Dufresne or Green and my statements aren't lies, but what I've seen in my years in Peachtree City.
And, I am in fact a "Firefighter", Not " fire fighter" and Not "firemen" as the other "boob" posted. You make a remark regarding Photocircuits as "the most dangerous plant in Fayette County" they had chlorine. Sure they had some releases in the past, but had made modifications to their plant to control these, by isolating their tanks in a room, with a scrubber purification system. This system prevented any further releases into the atmosphere. They also contributed to the LEPC (Local Emergency Planning Committee) with money and available resources for local emergency services to call on if needed elsewhere.
The same chlorine tanks Photocircuits had, are what I've seen used at our local water treatment plants. The same hazards, but without any installed backup containment systems. I've seen alot in my years in the fire service, and definitely never considered Photocircuits to be the most dangerous plant in Fayette County.
My ego has nothing to do with my posting, I was just making remarks regarding the other ignorant blog post, my First Amendment right, even as an employee.
Addressing ignorance as needed -
intheknow

Whoa baby, Rex "intheknow" Green did everything but list the pass code to the Photocircuits men's room.

Buddy your ego has got everything to do with it. Lenox and Logsdon are saints in your eyes. I just put a question up asking for comments on the Pathway dump that Lenox bought with our taxes - of course, to you, that was Brown's fault too - which is causing problems.

One thing is for sure, we now know why Logsdon was working like a mad man trying to get the TDK deal done. Brown was right even though your Direct PAC demanded TDK and now you don't have the guts to admit it. At least the Chamber guy did.

Vote Republican

You are really misinformed about Logsdon and Direct PAC. Neither pushed anything through - Logsdon especially, he simply worked with what he was given by Brown and Lenox - or more correctly, their council's decisions.

Extending TDK is a good idea, but no one from Direct PAC had anything to do with it - other than to show up at a 7 A.M. specially-called Saturday City Council meeting (obviously an attempt at a secret meeting) to ask that the city release the funds which were previously approved for engineering. Brown held these funds back illegally because of his personal opposition to the TDK extension. Direct PAC focused council on the real issue and they voted to release the funds and proceed.

The TDK extension has been in the works for almost as many years as Lake McIntosh. This is one of those issues that rabble rousers can use to incite outrage in the uninformed. Sadly, there are many of both.

and Mudcat, McDonough Dawg, Bad PTC, and intheknow - the hypocritical Spear Road bully (who has an awfully girly picture) and crew will immediately label you as greedy developers because they simply cannot believe that you can hold a moderate, intelligent opinion differing from theirs -- I mean, you haven't jumped on the "no more development, Logsdon is the antichrist" bandwagon yet! What are you thinking?

This is hilarious stuff! Thank you for starting my day off right. Robert W. Morgan is doing a little blog bullying. Mudcat is playing the helpless victim and Pandora says in the end that it’s all a matter of fate, sometimes it happens and sometimes it don’t.

Of course they have been planning TDK for years! People in real estate development have to search out new hot areas in advance or they will go broke. Group VI used to be in Henry County – then Peachtree City/Fayette – now they are in Coweta. Duh.

And I'm not stupid either. I know that things like TDK extension don't just spring up overnight because someone in power is suddenly influenced by a developer "friend". It takes years of planning and sometimes the people doing the so-called planning aren't even aware of the long-term consequences of their decisions.

Sometimes the developer types deliberately deceive the city like the Cedar Croft deal where they got apartments built in commercial zoning because the city ordinance was not up to date.

Other times the city dupes themselves because of their good intentions and overpays a developer for land - bridge to nowhere in front of Wynmeade.

And sometimes good old fashioned stupidity gets the politicians the exact opposite of what they are trying to accomplish - loud CSX train whistles on the heels of Parlionterri's attempt to legislate train noise - thank's Buddy!

If all of you complaining about every little thing would get involved and go to city council meetings and even planning commission meetings you would see how complex the decision-making actually is. If you really pay atttention, you'll see some of the traps developers and others hide in their proposals - especially when they volunteer to help write ordinances or create conditional zoning. Sometimes these traps don't go off until there is an entirely new council in place - and then they are usually powerless to solve the problem. Examples? OK, Williams Court, Bradshaw's commercial property, Lexington Circle, sewer tie-ins in south PTC, Willowbend Center (apartments), Lutheran Church (no that's not dead yet) and the Jan Trammell trailer park which will be annexed with the shopping center.

Watch and pay attention - some of these can be prevented, some can't.

Where does State Senator Mitch Seabaugh work now?

Funny how TDK Boulevard is a long way from even starting and yet a monstrous development has been designed and planned with the full expectation of putting at least 20,000 cars on that road. For the developers to expend that kind of money on design and engineering they knew years ago it was going down. Hmmmm.....How did they know ? Who gave them the reassurances they needed? Three Commandments Lynn? Rex Green trashes on Brown for a couple years and gets a Group VI job for his efforts.

I am curious from that other post, where does State Senator Mitch Seabaugh work now?

I agree with captainsarcasm 100%. I didn’t like the new golf cart fee and the stormwater fee, but like captainsarcasm said, between the tax increase and increased home value, my taxes rose about 11%. I can’t remember what the stormwater add-on is, but added to the tax boost, it probably increases what I pay the government up to about 18-20% - no where near 30%!

Even if the other items are absolutely true, I’m not saying they are, so what. Harold Logsdon was chosen to lead and we need to give him the respect the position demands. If you think he's a liar, guess what, he's your liar. Unless he does something that can get him kicked out of office, I suggest you try to get along with him. If you think you are ever going to find someone in government that you agree with 100% of the time, you are just plain crazy.

It's our life, the eco-greenies can shove it!

Come on dude. It's not "developement" that ANYONE has a problem with. It's the "overdevelpment" that we are all concerned about. Not one wants to deny a property owner his rights to develop and profit from his properties. However, when these developments negatively impact the overall quality of life issues for everyone else then heck yeah the issue needs to be dealt with. Hell, the developers at issue here don't give a rip about how their projects affect the overall community. I believe that's the main issue here.

Eco-Greenies....that is stupid. Sounds like someone blowing up Ford dealerships because they sell SUV's. You need to remove Reagan's picture. I knew Ronald Reagan and you're no Ronald Reagan. What makes you think you're worthy enough to wear him on your shirt sleeve?

Captain Sarcasam??? It sounds like you invented him and now you're patting yourself on the back for you self perceived wittiness.