Hey PTC Guy. I almost put out an all points bulletin to see if you were lost or something. You have been noticeably absent.

I'm not sure but I think the Fayette Forum is Janet Dunn's forum. I had an e-mail forwarded to me that referred to Janet's Citizen Online Wannabe. I went to it and the content centered around getting Greg re-elected and such. Is that the same one?

For the concern. Tsk Tsk dealt with the other.

No, several times I have done research to answer people who were making wild eyed claims. Put it together nicely, only to see it gone in less than an hour.

And you respond to one, get intervening posts, causing all the meaning of the post to be lost.

There is too much frustration in this Blog set up. As Richard said, too much confusion and too hard to follow.

Been a webmaster for years. And can tell you it is easier for me to admin a website and post on it, than it is to just post here and try to decipher it all.

We need a good forum for Fayette. This is not it.

I can create one and set it up. Fayette Forum could be molded into one, depending on the admin.

So there are options. Just need to see what the other posters want.

But I, for one, am done posting here, unless it is of critical mass. There is no reason it has to be this frustrating.

With that said, I hope life is treating you well!

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That this forum is difficult to keep up with and respond to. I don't know all the details of making a user friendly site so for that reason I am not going to be critical of the Citizen Forum. Hope it will improve as much time is wasted in keeping up with and researching the issues here.

I will say that this place has a pretty good pulse on what's happening to not only Fayette but the surrounding communities. That is valuable information as our neighbors actions affect our lives.

Take care and we'll see you around here. I know you can't stay away too long withoug putting your two cents in. Talk soon & good night all.

There is a lot of valuable information.

But get better, I don't believe it will. The forum blog is what you got and I don't think it will change.

He is using Drupal, one of the most user (admin) unfriendly scripts out there. The developers, of Drupal, have zero interest in creating a better forum script, and the on inherent to Drupal is nothing more than what you see, now, in a slighter altered form. They have zero interest in developing modules or bridges to bring in other forum scripts.

As switching to another CMS script? A huge chore that often will cause the loss of database information, such as posts, advertising and so on. And requires, again someone who can set it up.

I cannot blame Cal for not wanting to pay someone, full or part time, to setup, maintain and admin a forum site. I contacted him about doing just that and got zero response back.

So, my thinking is based on knowledge, not assumptions.

Don't count on seeing me around much. I was serious in what I said.

I am looking into setting up a site. Will let you know if it all goes okay. Then we will see if it will fly or not.

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If you are willing to do the work of administering a forum, including publicizing it well, I'd be interested in joining. I prefer forums to email lists, for many reasons. The way the Citizen is set up is frustrating.

It would be interesting to have forum topics linked to local stories and issues.

Keep us posted on what you're going to do, please.

will set one up.

And most assuredly can link to and do more as regards local issues.

The biggest thing on pulbicizing is word of mouth/fingers, members to others. That gets people on faster than anything else ever will.

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I only have some final tweaking to do.

Should be up and running sometime tomorrow.

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Gee, Cal. You promised us an improvement. Didn't happen.

I emailed you about hiring me, PT or FT, to set up and maintain one for you. You didn't reply.

Then I set one up, get some members and posting starts, and you delete my blog on it here.

To read your articles, they had to come here, where all your ads and such would be seen.

Disappointing at best.

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That's pretty low to use the Citizen's website (a source of ad revenue for them) to advertise your site for free. You should have bought an ad instead.

Two prior posters, I know of, posted about alternaive sites, that linked back to the Citizen. Neither blog was deleted.

Richard Hobb's blog is still standing.

Further, posts using news quotes are required to link to the paper. So their ads are seen.

That expands their viewership, since there are some who want a forum and stopped posting here.

Cal's revenues were full considered in setting up the forum.

So, get your facts straight before you start making such comments.

Or, are multiple standards, on the same issue, okay in your book?

I waited for Cal to fulfill his promises. He didn't.

What he fears from Fayette Speaks is beyond me to understand.

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The NORM of forum's is to allow every poster to show their Home Website. It is so standard it is scripted into the User Profiles! Many even put them in the sig lines.

I am not making a penny off of this. In fact, it cost me a small amount of money to set it up.

It would be different if I was for profit or was doing something that would harm the papers revenues.

Someone does not understand how this all inter-relates.

OK. I have vented. I will only respond, not originate, any more thoughts.

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Looking forward to giving it a try. Thanks for all your help in helping teaching how to use this blog.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

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you and your doofus aliases are just what he set up the board for?

You're thinking of http://fayetteforum.org/.

PTC Guy's link goes to http://fayettenet.com/forum/index.php

And I did look up the owner's name, but I don't know that he wants it publicized. (I don't know him so I haven't asked.)

I thought that looking up the owner of a website was common knowledge.
http://www.whois.ws/

One pays for privacy. Then the Domain holder is listed, not the actual owner.

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I'm tired and punchy and wasn't sure. Thank you for the clarification.

I have used forums before, I have one on my site as well, but the members overall prefer the listserver. I get about 100 emails a day sent to the members. Most I never read, but those that cause me to be interested get read and replied to.

As to yahoo.com's personal info, I wonder what you mean. I have several addresses, and have never given out any personal information. You can create a name John Smith or Richard Hobbs and start your own email. So I think maybe you might have that confused with something else.

My personal listserver runs through my personal website. But I'm on another yahoo groups listserver. Its for Politics and Lawyers. I use my own personal email address for the mail. It goes through my pop3 Outlook email program. So I don't know if you have to have a Yahoo address to join the listserver, just a valid email, but I may be wrong.

I really love the listserver emails. It so much easier to keep up with the more recent comments and threads. Even better than a forum.

But hey, I'm trying. Anyone with any other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them out.

The other thing that it has is the ability for the members to create polls on their own and post them to the members regarding any matter that you wanted to talk about.

Plus places to upload files and pictures etc.

FYI

If it works for you, great.

I did a bit or research. There are about 25,000 sites using the listserver method. That method has been in steady decline since the 90s.

Yahoo is the only remaining group provider.

On the other hand, there are over a million forums out there.

For those reading, who don't understand a listserver, you get every reply, or more, depending on how you set up you subscriptions. You do all via email.

As for what you can do on a forum, members can create polls, private message and email others, connect to Instant Messengers, you get an email telling you someone replied, with new forums having a copy of the reply contained, subscribe or unsubscribe and so on.

I don't want to get 100 emails a day. One email telling me someone responded, and no more, until I go read, is plenty.

Credit given where credit is due. I appreciate your trying.

But honestly, most users would just get lost in a listserver setup. So much better to just click in and read, maybe respond, when you feel like it.

For the average person, where a site is not so topic specific, a forum is better in my book.

But, for very specialized sites, I can indeed see where a listserver would be very useful.

But we both agree, a Blog was never designed to be used a full fledged forum.

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I have used forums before, I have one on my site as well, but the members overall prefer the listserver. I get about 100 emails a day sent to the members. Most I never read, but those that cause me to be interested get read and replied to.

As to yahoo.com's personal info, I wonder what you mean. I have several addresses, and have never given out any personal information. You can create a name John Smith or Richard Hobbs and start your own email. So I think maybe you might have that confused with something else.

My personal listserver runs through my personal website. But I'm on another yahoo groups listserver. Its for Politics and Lawyers. I use my own personal email address for the mail. It goes through my pop3 Outlook email program. So I don't know if you have to have a Yahoo address to join the listserver, just a valid email, but I may be wrong.

I really love the listserver emails. It so much easier to keep up with the more recent comments and threads. Even better than a forum.

But hey, I'm trying. Anyone with any other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them out.

The other thing that it has is the ability for the members to create polls on their own and post them to the members regarding any matter that you wanted to talk about.

Plus places to upload files and pictures etc.

FYI