I'm impressed by the fact that you will not be intimidated by some suburban thug-wannabe. His so called look of defiance would probably diminish had he been pulled over in violation of the noise ordinance! Or does Fayette county have one of those? Oh, yeah, and I think rap is a genre whose time has passed it by!

I also grew up in Fayette County. Sure it has changed. But I'm not only not ready to give up on it, I plan on staying around for many more years.

One of the main things you can do, especially in PTC, is support your local law enforcement, and the people that support them. Push for your local law enforcement, especially in PTC, to be paid a reasonable salary. Quantity is needed, but quality (due to officers going elsewhere) will be lost if they continue to be paid so little.

Also, do your part on calling in suspicious activity... even if it is just someone coming up to your house offering to clean your gutters or sell you pinestraw. When you call in, have good details available... clothing descriptions, vehicle license plate, direction of travel, that sort of thing. And call immediately, not 30 minutes later, after thinking about it for awhile. Sure, it may be nothing, but it may be (and has in the past proven to be) *something*.

You are hitting the nail on the head, send them away. The problem is not the police, not the Fay Co District Attorneys’ office; it’s the pardons and parole office. (State run) Just because Joe Blow gets a 10 year sentence doesn’t mean he serves 10 years in jail. Depending on what the State parole board chart says is how much time Joe actually serves. I will try to find some hard facts or links to where you can get the information but I have heard Joe only does about 10% of the actual time. (if he’s a 1st or 2nd offender) So if Joe get sentenced to 10 years probation, 5 in jail, (depending on his record) he could do 1 year in jail and 9 on parole. Yea this sucks.

Get ready to throw-up
www.dcor.state.ga.us
goto "inmate info"
goto "inmate query" (agree)
goto "conviction county" bottom right
go surfing and be enlightend
I will get you names to piss you off later in the week.

You'd rather myself and the rest of us upstanding good citizens to leave? I'm stunned.

How many times can you run? How many places can you run to? When does it end? It's coming but you better start shooting because once it's here then we will all need to run. As long as we stay united and determined then there's a shot at keeping this great place...great.

Start running and it's over. Stay united.

--What you do now will determine what you have tomorrow--

the guy that shot the woman this morning. read the article.

Oops. I read you wrong. I'm spending too much time on here. I didn't mean to come across as xenophobic, but that's the price I pay for communicating over the internet, (obviously not that well).

Hence my comment: Time to move. Crime is a virus that can never be irradicated until AFTER it completely destroys the community. Why live here scared, confused, angry, or anxious when you can leave and live in peace somewhere else. Sure there might not be the same opportunites somewhere else, but that's up to you to determine. And if you are here for the schools, then it's your fault for raising stupid kids since successful adults come out of poor quality schools all the time.

No matter where you move to you'll be saying the same thing in a couple of years if not sooner. How many more times do you want to run? I remember when College Park was a safe place to live, then it got bad then Riverdale,Jonesboro and Newnan etc... There isn't a place in America or even the world that is safe from crime, maybe Mars?

"time to move". Where? I have a farm in Moultrie, Colquitt County, Georgia, everyone considers it very country, laid back. Guess what, about a year ago, a house full of people were murdered about 1/2 mile from my farm. You can't get away from things like this, in most any area of the country. If you look at facts, the crime rate in Fayette County, compares VERY favorably with most any area in most cases.

For one, I'm not considering leaving PTC. I've reviewed my options, and I can't afford a deserted island. Plus, there would be no Publix nearby for my supplies....

It is good to have a Publix! I've refused to move to a lush, private tropical island unless it has a Publix.

You can't beat their sub-sandwiches.

Vote Republican

I agree, wherever I go, I will require a Publix with a good sandwich lady. However, my point isn't about running from crime, it is about living in peace. I would hate to live in a community where innocent women are beat in the head with rocks in broad daylight, kids are jacked riding their golfcarts, people are kidnapped shot in the face, serial armed robbers are on the loose, and gang activity rampant. Fayetteville has changed significantly and instead of fighting, complaining, or living in denial, I would rather leave. The Fayette I grew up in will be sorely missed.

My point is there is no such place. Leave if you must but everything you want to get away from will be knocking on you peaceful door sooner or later. People need to fight against this problem not look for a place to hide from it. Do you think Mars has a publix?

If I told you, you would follow me there; and that would defeat the purpose. J/K, I'm sure you're a cool dude; but I'm still not telling.

Good luck in finding your Xenophobia paradise. And I wouldn't want to live on Mars anyway no publix.

The answer is twofold:
1. Take action against what is here.
2. Discourage and refuse what would add to the problems, such as Mass Transit.

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What kind of drug dealer needs mass transit? Don't they make enough to afford a pimped out ride? If the dealers start taking the bus who else will be buying all those Escalades?

Between the 6 lane hwys, mega density housing and crime wave, I'm starting to get deja vu about the place I left to come to safe, clean Fayette County. It was Clayton County.

Do you think they are out there taking risks?

No. They take on punks and loosers to do their street selling for them. The desparate, quite often. Giving them a small cut.

Let them get arrested.

I repeat. In big cities, where do pimps, prostitutes, drug pushers, pick pockets and such concentrate? Mass Transit areas.

Why? Either because that is their ride and/or it is where people consentrate and come looking.

Why should the dealer come here at all, risk being recognized and caught supplying a street pusher, when he can do it in another county, where he won't stand out?

Mass Transit will interconnect with the Clayton system, making it fluid throughout.

Going into the military that warn you immediately about such places and protecting your wallet.

When in uniform, I carried mine in my sock, strapped to my ankle.

The one pick pocket incident, in my family, was at a train station in Atlanta. The said there is multiple such thefts every day.

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I repeat. In big cities, where do pimps, prostitutes, drug pushers, pick pockets and such concentrate? Mass Transit areas.

And when there is no big city try the intersection of 74 and I-85.

Because of the truck cross-dock facilities, the hotels and fast food places.

Mass Transit is not the only cause of trouble in this world.

It’s not Mass Transit, it Mass People. The greater the density the greater the odds.

That’s why schools are such a great place to buy and sell drugs.

Mass Transit will have no effect on crime. It hasn’t affected Newnan in the two years GRTA has been there.

Where have the last few major drug busts happened? Nowhere near a bus.

Get your facts straight before you start!

Was there a bus anywhere in Tyrone last night, last week, ever?

Then the whole world comes crashing down.

Then total anarchy.

Then the world as we know it comes to an end.

Then darkness.

The end.

That criminal took a wrong turn sounds like. Actually it sounds like he was trying to commit suicide by shooting at a Fayettenam cop.

It could get worse unless Randall hires more guys now. We need more land sharks to lock this county down. Make an example of every criminal. I think they are just testing the water to see how far they can push it.
The picture of this guy kind of looks like the armed robber still on the lam. Could it be the same guy? Why would he come here?

The picture of this guy kind of looks like the armed robber still on the lam

No, it doesn't. Stop by a local store and look again. This guy looks tall-ish and thin. The other guy who they're looking for (who's name is not BOLO, despite what some citizens think), is a shorter (5'6ish) more stocky guy.

I hate that this happened. I'm glad Officer Ingram was not hurt. But it just goes to show the rest of us how dangerous their job can be. Every time they get out of their vehicle (and sometimes even when they don't), they are entering an unknown situation, an unknown danger. Most of the time the outcome is good. And then there is last night.

Thank you, once again, to our local law enforcement, for everything.

Not saying it is not dangerous and scary sometimes, it is, just want to know.

What the hell kind of question is that? What does it have to do with ANYTHING?

And ONE would be too many

Shootings and killings of police officers is a concern for all law enforcement agencies and singling out PTC Cops and their history in fire fights is ludicrous. These guys are putting their lives on the line just by putting that badge on. Chances are increasing daily of us losing one of our local guys in our Fayette communities. Look at the recent crime surge we are experiencing and tell me PTC cops are immune.

Maybe for the schools.

Had to laugh at that one: "For the schools".

Just glad the officer was not seriously injured.

Otherwise the suspect would have jumped on a GRTA bus to head back to “hood” and the authorities would never find him.

Come to think of it, since we don’t have GRTA, how did he get here in the first place?

I thought criminals only came into our county by bus.

Where is the easiest place to find drugs?

Near Mass Transit terminals.

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Hey PTC Guy. Did the drug dealers at Publix HIJACK a MARTA bus to sell their drugs? My goodness, how in the world could they have gotten there without using mass transit???????? I just can't figure it out.

The dealers are taking the bus to Newnan and WALKING to PTC. Or maybe they are taking MARTA to Clayton County and hitching a ride to PTC.

Yeah - I get it now

Another one who does not get it.

OK. Ramble on.

Or do we have another mutliple membership going on?

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If you’re accusing me of using multiple sign-on’s you are wrong again.

I can’t imagine that there would be at least one other person who disagrees with you on this subject.

I was taught as a child to express my “own” opinion and not the opinions of others.

You actually think there is only ONE person in PTC that wants GRTA and that they would waste their time by posting as multiple people???

Twisted Twisted

Ever since my dual monicker days PTC Guy has been a little suspicious of folks. I do miss my Aggressive Progressive guy though. I was really having fun with him. It was kind of like pretending I was the Rice Guy.

Took it in the teeth on that one PTC Guy.

Read below.

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Read what below?

Where ever the Bus Stops
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The BIG yellow ones.

A semantical spin master you are not.

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Macintosh, Starr's Mill, Sandy Creek, FCHS, Whitewater, and the avenue.

Read below.

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GRTA doesn't have terminals.........only MARTA does.

That is in an area the dealers can lurk that is where you go.

Where do you think the schools are getting it from?

Heavily from going to the College Park/East Point area, or those dealders coming down here.

Give the pushers, who don't have cars, a way down and they are going to come to expand their markets.

Call it terminal, drop or just a convenient place.

I always hated such places in the military. That is where the pimps, prostitutes, pushers and such gathered.

Yep. They varied by place, density and demographics. But the pushers were always around.

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The reason schools are such a good place to buy and sell drugs it because there is such a high concentration of "customers" in a relatively small area.

It's been that way for 30 years.

When was the last time you were at a “bus terminal”?

Didn’t you just read someone’s post about the kids getting high on the golf cart path near the school?

Rural farm area.

Drugs were a rare problem then there.

30 years ago is 7 years after I graduated.

Now you remember where the drugs were coming from 20 years ago, to here. Kids driving to College Park and bringing them back.

Now, they are coming from College Park, East Point and Riverdale.

As the source moves closer they are more available. The problem gets worse.

Buses bring them right down town all the time.

You want to streamline the delivery system by bringing Mass Transit here.

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When was the last time anyone took mass transit to PTC to sell drugs?

Most drug dealers use cars so they might have a chance of getting out of the area BEFORE the police arrive.

I can see it now, Joe drug dealer standing at the “Park & Ride” waiting for the bus. Hoping it gets in on time because the cops are looking for him and he wants to make a clean get-away.

The headline in the Citizen, “Major Drug Dealer Busted While Waiting for Bus.

You really need to get together with Jeff Foxworthy if you’re going to keep this up.

You can wear your sign.

Give it up on trying to be a semantical spin master. You are failing.

Try reading and responding to what I said. Then we can talk.

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Get off if it.

The drug dealers are driving more expensive cars then either you or me can afford.

You come off as sounding absolutely terrified of everything that can come out of the BIG EVAL CITY.

Have you ever lived in a city or have you just read about one on T.V.?

I grew up close, real close, to southeast D.C. I spent almost 20 years there. I’ve got family that’s lived in New York city for generations.

What farm state did you grow up in?

Get over your paranoid existence. My God, how do you function in everyday life if you are afraid of everything?

My wife grew up in the MD DC burbs.

I lived there a number of years and worked in DC.

Other relatives lived there for over 50 years before moving. As well as some friends.

So don't lecture me on the marvels of DC. I know better.

We were there when they began putting in the transits, both bus and rail.

Crime rate soared.

You don't know much about dealing it appears.

The big guy, that makes the bucks, is not on the street. His dirt poor flunkies are out there taking the risks and he collects his share.

Some flunkies have cars. Some do not. All are dangerous.

Two bit independents come in all shapes, sizes and forms.

And I have lived overseas, including where to be American meant you could be in big trouble at any moment. Getting too close to knives more than once.

I am not running scared, being paranoid, or any such thing. Just being smart in my thinking.

Your cocky bluster means nothing to those who have been there.

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I would suggest that you start packing all of your worldly possessions and getting a real-estate agent.

You are NOT going to be able to handle it when the bubble breaks.

You’ll lose it when the busses start poring over the county line and the drug dealers are going to be coming in droves.

Remember to stock up on milk, bread and water. And have plenty of batteries. You never know when, or if, the power is ever going to come back on.

Then how are drugs getting into PTC? We don't have terminals or MARTA?

It use to be the kids with cars drove to College Park and brought them back.

Now, there are dealers in Riverdale. So more of them are able to drive here and it is easier for kids to drive there.

Bring in those buses and every pusher without a car now can come down and every kid without a car doesn't need one.

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They will have to get on the bus to Newnan with two suitcases. One for their drugs, and one for a change of clothes. They can't wear their druggie clothes on the bus, they would stand out too much. When they arrive in Newnan, they can go into the TERMINAL and change into their baggy pants, silly ball cap and bling. Then they can hitch a ride to PTC. But wait, they might not get a ride dressed like that. They'll have to wait until they get to PTC. Then they can change clothes at the Avenue.

After they sell all their drugs, they have to reverse the process. WHEW - sounds way too work intensive to me.

WHY DIDNT THEY JUST DRIVE THEIR BRAND NEW CADDY that they bought with all that drug money????????

Where do you live again?

And there are a good number of kids without cars.

Of those that do have them, many could not get away with the time involved to get up there and back.

Again, stop trying to be what you are not, a semantical spin master.

Not working.

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Did it ever occur to you that the drug dealers are driving here?

No, that's right, they would take the bus wouldn't they?

The drug dealers drive here because that's where the kids/adults and money are.

Would you locate you business away from your customers? No. You would try and locate close to them.

Well guess what, that's exactly what their doing.

If you really believe that drug dealers are going to “ride the bus” to come here and sell drugs, you may need professional help.

How many drug busts and shootings have your read about in Newnan lately.

They have a GRTA bus service so the crime in that area must be far worse than it is in Fayette, PTC or Tyorne.

Please come to grips with reality.

Crime goes to where the money is. Anyway it can get there.

P.S. The guy holding up local businesses isn't walking around waiting for the bus. He's got a car.

You have had person after person tell you they don't want GRTA. And they have given examples and reasons why.

All you see is that you, personally, don't want to drive. That is clouding your judgement on every other aspect of the issues.

When someone starts praising the DC area Metro system, it is time to start disregarding them as credible.

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There have been a few people on this forum against GRTA. The bulk of commuters are working in Atlanta as I type. They don't have the time or inclination to read or respond to these blogs.

Let's take a REAL poll - from the commuters themselves.

And there is now way the bus would work for me. I can see where it would benefit some but I still fear a GRTA C-TRAN scenario. For discussions sake why hasn't anyone addressed my concerns about the Clayton County GRTA system? I do have to say that you guys are warm and fuzzy about GRTA and you also seem to be picking and choosing your GRTA examples.

And no. I'm not entirely anti-public transportation. But I am anti-Clayton County GRTA. I've witnessed the effects of GRTA C-Tran first hand and on a daily basis since way before it arrived on the scene.

Unlike some, I don’t have the answer to your question about if GRTA does side of the road pick-up/drop-off. I’m waiting for an answer from GRTA.

I did ask the folks here that I work with and got a resounding NO!.

Additionally, the folks that I spoke with also said that if GRTA did do the “side of the road pick-up/drop-off” they would STOP using it.

They’ve actually become accustom to who rides the busses and when. So spotting anyone that “doesn’t” belong would not be hard. It’s good to know that some people are aware of their surroundings. As it was explained to me almost everybody that rides the GRTA uses a monthly pass. The few occasions where someone actually used cash is when they forgot their pass at home that day.

It is my understanding that GRTA and the county decide where the stops are to be located, but as I said, I have not heard back from GRTA yet.

They’ve actually become accustom to who rides the busses and when. So spotting anyone that “doesn’t” belong would not be hard. It’s good to know that some people are aware of their surroundings. As it was explained to me almost everybody that rides the GRTA uses a monthly pass. The few occasions where someone actually used cash is when they forgot their pass at home that day.

If I rode the bus Bad It would have to be with a scenario you describe above. Plus a little wireless high speed internet wouldn't hurt any. Again I fear the Clatyton GRTA C-TRAN scenario. Like I said before....I don't trust GRTA and I don't trust metro politicians.

Please tell me that while riding that packed bus I wouldn't have to listen to everyone's boistrous and obnoxious cell phone calls.

It’s my understanding that most everyone either reads or sleeps.

Apparently there is something called “bus etiquette”. Don’t know much about it other than if someone looks tired, who doesn’t look that way at 5:30 AM, that talking is frowned upon.

I-Pods are acceptable as they require ear bobs. Reading is okay, but if you snore, you will be dropped off somewhere College Park with out your cell phone.

Boy, everyone is very hush hush about the big drug bust gone wrong last night in Tyrone that almost killed me and many other innocent bystanders.

signed,

very pissed off individual who was almost mowed down by fleeing suspect and 20 cop cars chasing............

When you see lights and sirens, and hear gunfire, get out of the way. Be mad at the drug dealers.
The land sharks arressted them now lets hope our judges make us proud.

The Chevy Truck they were chasing (going 100 MPH+) was not using his "lights or sirens" and neither were 50% of the unmarked police/GBI cars.

I was on a motorcycle and do not need to DIE because the police cannot contain their botched bust to a parking lot. They have choppers and can use them. They almost killed a few dozen people during a chase at peak traffic hours, icluding myself.

You hit it on the head. Will our DA and our judges put these clowns away for the max or will some of Scott Ballard's buddies home cook these cases with a stnky plea deal thus putting these pieces of human debris back on the streets.

I hope they are put away for good so that FTP the rightfully "very pissed off individual who was almost mowed down by fleeing suspect and 20 cop cars chasing............" won't have to go through that again.

Because we are going to be watching you and following this case. You better hit them with everyhting the law allows. The one suspect tried to kill four of our valuable officers. You had better send a strong message to scum who want to commit crimes here.

I'm still waiting for the story to show up here on The Citizen, so that my comments don't get buried in a non-related thread. And I'm wondering why a story that happened just about 8 hours later made it here already, and not the one from last night.

What's up with that?

Were you standing next to the GRTA bus stop?

Maybe by Golf Carts?