That's some incredible insight about why Steve Brown got stomped out of office. It was simply over a tree.

I seem to remember Brown being totally against TDK extention, then saying he was for it while Mayor and that PTC was doing everything possible to make it happen. Just more flip-flopping around just like he did on the Westside annexation issue and then the CVS/Lutheran church issue.

WHen Brown says "I told you so," he is telling the truthe since he has said both sides at one point or the other.

I welcome the extention and yeah, even houses there too.

Nuk,
To anyone with an objective mind or a non-developer perspective, it was quite clear what was going to happen on the other side of TDK. There is nothing to cheer about because we are going to be seriously impaired when SR 74 is all we have for traffic flow in the future.

When the Chamber of Commerce, Mitch Seabaugh, Lynn Westmoreland, Dan Tennant and the Coweta County Board of Commissioners demanded that the city expend $1.7 million out of the city’s general fund to pay for the TDK extension, I said no. I publicly stated that there was no sense in crippling the city financially over a road that will not do a single positive thing for traffic.

The argument posed against me was I did not favor creating a valuable traffic relief road (TDK). We can now see that traffic relief was never the intention.

The minutes of the Council meetings and local news reports consistently reflected my statements assuring everyone that a development explosion would occur on the Coweta County side of the road. I had said many times that the new TDK would enable rapid development in that area.

My position was I would agree to $200,000 someone else was going to have to pay the big expenses for the road. The county and state came forward, along with some assistance from the FAA, and paid for the project. Is it going to excellerate big-time development in East Coweta - you bet.

Now Nuk, if you would relieve yourself of the medieval torture mask, you may be able to come up with a more plausible anti-Brown arguments. Your diluted arguments in favor of the Development Authority corruption in 2005 were not very convincing either.

I've never spoken in favor of the Development "What's a budget?" Authority. No, I'm not one of those satanic, greedy developers either who you blame for losing the election in such a landslide. I never knew PTC was 80% developers and 20% non-developers.

Steve,

You stated quite clearly in your first campaign "TDK NOT NOW" but then as Nuk stated, you came out in favor of it. Problem is, you always seemed to blow in the direction of the wind. You seem to be posturing for another run at mayor. You had your chance. You blew it! You didn't lose for any of the reasons you always stated, you lost because you can't keep your mouth shut! You attack anyone that questions you with a viciousness that is unacceptable to the people in PTC. You made stupid decisions. You spent our money unwisely. You alienated all the surrounding cities. You violated the ethics laws more than once. You disrespected all of the PTC citizens. You never took responsibility for anything. You try and label all those who dare to disagree with you as a "developer." Well, I have disagreed with you about a lot of things you did, and I AM NOT A DEVELOPER!!! You are last years news. Go repaint your daughters room. Go actually find gainful employment. Go ruin someone elses city. Do anything, JUST GO!!

It appears the Direct PAC has reassembled as Birdman is back. Welcome back Birdman. I made the case on TDK in the previous posting above. We all remember you were in favor of TDK and wanted the city to fund the whole thing.

If you want to debate on a specific item, let’s do it. Otherwise, I am not going to respond to the bitterness and artificial condemnation from Nuk and you. What's the point?

Look, I am not rejoicing that the TDK development situation turned out the way I said it would as it will cause me just as many problems as everyone else.

It appears that you only strive to intimidate people with verbal abuse in order to scare them into silence. Tell your friends back at the PAC that I sent greetings. I am serious about debating specific issues.

I deal in REALITY.

The world stopped making land a long time ago. However, it didn't stop making people. These people need a place to live. Some of them are going to look at PTC and surrounding areas and think "hey, I'd like to move there!" Then there are going to be people like yourself, Phyllis Agitator, Bob Brown and others who move here and say "no one else is allowed in."

Here's a clue for all the come-lately-move-in-and-whine-non-stop resident carpet-bagging dreamers: you lose. GAME OVER. That train by Planterra was chugga-choo-choo long before you whiny brats moved there. Then, you whined about it. And whined some more. Then, even more. "Please quit blowing that siren." Then you crashed the Fayette 911 system due to the Airshow because you heard a loud boom and you thought World War 3 had started. Fragile.

Yes, the TDK extention is going to have houses built around the road. DUH! Last I checked in REALITY, where there are roads there is housing. Is this a NEW concept to some of you? Can you not understand the concept of why YOU moved here and why others might also want to move here? No, you can't because you live in some place that's not REALITY.

I lived in PTC and Fayette County long before all the whiners decided to move here and immediately whine non-stop. Let me tell you: it's a lot better place now than 20 years ago and the community has grown in every area to the better. If some more people want to get in on this action, I applaud their good judgement. If that means more traffic, hey, I'll either deal with it or move.

TDK WILL alleviate traffic to some extent. REALITY dictates that when there exists more than one way to get from Point A to Point B, not everyone is going to take the same route. This is purely common-sense that is lost on those who have none.

Steve, I'm glad you feel like taking the high ground now on "discussing a specific issue" because you never have before. Not by a long-shot.

NUK

Nuk,
You have got to be the biggest simpleton on the planet. You are approaching the issue of a massive development, way out of scale for anything in East Coweta, with a fifth grade mentality.

Yea Nuk “people gotta live somewhere.” We could have one family per two acres like Coweta’s land plan says or we can watch some local developers go on a profit binge at our expense with over 3,000 homes.

TDK a traffic reliever? Nuk, did you read the story? They are going to a million square feet of retail and office space. Try to picture how many cars and trucks go in and out of a huge shopping center like that every day.

How did we end up with lower life forms like you in Peachtree City? "Ah, anything is OK ... lots of houses ... big pretty stores ... hit me in the head with the hammer again!"

Dear God, make it stop! The humanity!

Let me clue you into something: it's COWETA county! They can do whatever the hell they want to do. I may be a "lower life form" as you describe me, but I'm a little further up on the food-chain than yourself, obviously. I can understand the very simple concept that PTC cannot dictate to Coweta County what to do with their land use plan.

To those who feel they will be somehow adversely affected, try Google and search for realtors so you can get out of PTC before this major crisis happens!

It's ironic that most of incessant whining is coming from Planterra Ridge. I remember before Planterra was developed and some in PTC were howling "400 houses! NO! STOP!The sky is falling!" The irony is after Planterra was built (and PTC still survived anyway), some of the residents immediately said "NO MORE DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE!" and have been whining ever since. Duh!

TDK sounds like it will have some more shopping and so forth that might be convenient. That's cool. I also like how it irritates some to no end and perhaps they'll find another community to go whine in instead of PTC.

NUK
NUK

If we (PTC) don't build the new extension road to Coweta county so the huge one million SF commercial area can be built, along with 3-4000 units, they (Coweta) almost certainly won't build it there! Why should they build a whole new road to I85---, if they can't get to 74, they will simply move the big center and homes somewhere else closer to the I85 road. There are those individuals here (PTC) who want it built to make money for them---not for us in general. It will simply destroy PTC if that road is built. Find out who planned such a "surprise" and you will find the money grubbers.

Your right NUK. Coweta can do what they want. And we don't have to build a road for them to dump their traffic woes on us. Let them funnel it through their own road systems.

I'm just yanking some of the no-growth-ever people's chains here....I'm not in favor of helping Coweta County put a major development on TDK Blvd. Not with my moolah. Some houses on that extention I think is reasonable, but nothing like the proposed development I've seen:)

NUK

Must be one of them! Planned community be damned. Not interested. Look joe, I want my house to continue to increase in value so that I can continue to afford to live here. The more of those rat traps and mansions built, the more mine decreases! Can we just investigate who owns all land now surrounding PTC and how long they have had it? Might answer a lot of questions.

... But that "planned community" you love doesn't extend beyond Line Creek.

Coweta's kind of a wild west development wise. But at least they have more affordable homes there so teachers, police officers and the like can afford to at least live near the citizens of PTC whom they serve.

PTC is awesome and well thought out and with luck will age incredibly well. But the regional traffic is gonna be a big pain in the rear for all.

I disagree Mr. Munford. Why does the plan have to go before GRTA and ARC? We have learned, unfortunately late in the game, that we are all accountable to one another.

That odor causing facility wasn't in Fayette County. Thank God our county commissioners started raising hell about it. Their actions created positive change.

We can't afford the "I'm gonna live in my own little bubble" routine anymore. I agree with bad_ptc, halt the road and you will halt that development. They were banking on the road extension.

Steve Brown stated three things that were clearly true, but the brainwashed public would not listen: (1) TDK will do nothing to help traffic and maybe make it worse (2) the widening of 54 will be a sufficient source of relief (3) the real reason for TDK is developer greed, converting modest value land into a developer bonanza, once the road is built.

TDK really stands for TOTAL-DEVELOPMENT-KONNECTOR