idontknow is correct; this is a great city. There is no reason to make any change. Steve Brown is doing a great job and there is no reason to change and certainly great risk in voting for a completely silent unknown candidate backed by developers. Keep PTC a great city; keep Mayor Steve Brown.

How long have you lived here? Most Brown supporters are people who have lived here less than three years and buy into his spins of the truth. The truth is that Logsdon has no connection to developers, is just a normal citizen who wanted to help move this city out of its current state of negativity and back on track. All of the reasons Brown gave for this city being voted as a great place to live are positives that the prior administrations had put in place, such as cart paths, strictly planned development, lakes, green space, landscaped medians, etc. Logsdon has very broad support in this election, by virtually all people who have lived here for any significant period of time, and because of the broad support is beholden to no segment of the population. The "developer" moniker is just a buzzword that Brown is using, like "family", to dupe the newcomer into reelecting him. If I were you, I would find someone you trust that has lived here for a significant period of time and get the truth. You are being duped.

You have nothing to base Brown supporters time in city upon.

I have lived here 19 years.

Logsdon has said nothing of substance. Plenty of platitudes, but no how he will do it.

You are guessing what Logsdon would do. Nothing more.

Remember that Peachtree City has wonderful residents, wonderful government employees and wonderful volunteers, none of whom are trying to fill their pockets at the expense of the overall City quality of life.

Whomever you choose, do it based on what you think is right. For me, it's about the incumbent's failure to satisfy my requirements for the mayor of Peachtree City.

Stormwater will get done. The cart paths will be widened. Responsible development will continue. Please don't believe that these things won't happen if one person or another is elected or not. Hopefully, there will not be an oppressive increase in the taxes paid for the services provided.

We've got it lucky. Call your friends around Atlanta and ask them how much they pay in taxes and what they get for it. Ask them if they can walk out their back doors and quickly enter a natural paradise. Ask them how much they pay for their kids to play sports.

Remember your blessings. Remember why you moved to Peachtree City, especially those of you who decided to come hear more than 4 years ago, prior to the current acrimony. Remember the things that make your town your home.

Then vote your conscience. Don't get caught up in the minutia. Peachtree City will be fine regardless of who is elected Mayor. It will still be your home.

As for me, I'm choosing Logsdon because I believe he will honor the qualities I find desirable in the Mayor of Peachtree City.

I believe Harold Logsdon won't use "the dais to verbally assail members of our community," as Dana Kinser wrote in his blog.

I believe Harold Logsdon won't be "boorish and insensitive", "a publicity-hungry hypocrite", "an insensitive oaf with no common sense and even less professional decorum and human decency." All of these quotes taken after the incumbent put himself on television after a summer tragedy.

Some may say Harold Logsdon says nothing, but at least no one says these things about him. These quotes are all regarding the incumbent.

Vote on the issues, vote on the facts, vote on your heart. In my opinion, Peachtree City can only get better.

And after the election, don't walk away satisfied. Get involved. Whoever is in office, watch what they do. Look beyond the headlines in the paper, the skewed opinions of those with an agenda for either side, and ask yourself, is this what I want for my town? Read the details, ask questions, accept nothing you see at its face value (on both sides).

It's no wonder to me why so many people don't bother to participate in local government. For the most part, their home is their refuge, their sanctuary. They want to be left alone to make their own decisions. Take your personal philosophies and review everything you have seen and heard in the past few months, and in the past four years. Make your conclusions. Understand the passions everyone has. Understand the motives of all involved. Really read everything. Take some time in the next two days. Then make your decision.

I hope you'll choose Logsdon. Ultimately, the choice is yours.

There is more to stormwater than getting done eventually. How done and when done also matter.

So it matters who gets elected to get it done. 'Begin' and 'years' from Logdson is not satisfactory or persuasive on how and when.

For the Stormwater Utility it will not be an abusive rise to taxpayers. Looks alike an average of around $4.00 a month.

But in the General Fund that is an excuse to hide increases for other issues.

I have lived here 19 years. Seen all the avoidance and secret government before. I will take a little strife to get rid of that.

Cart Paths, stormwater and such are not minutia. They address the very beauty, livability and so on of PTC.

So, it is important who gets it done.

So, for me, I choose Brown, because he will get it done the right way. As in stormwater the well developed Utility. Not vague avoidance spin like 'begin, years and look into it.' Do nothing terms when something is already there.

I know Brown is not perfect but he will not hide with a King in the Castle secretive attitude. As one campaigns so will they govern.

And yes, vote. Examine your heart and thinking and vote for what is best, not what one desires the most.

We are at a cross roads on a number of issue. It will get done and the Mayor talks nice are no longer sufficient answers.

Government is overwhelming for many. Be it HOA, or greater, on up to being President. But all levels are needed.

Those who cannot run must ensure they vote for those who will get the job done. Those who will let them go home to safe, dry and desirable homes.

Please Vote. Vote Wisely. Vote Brown.

If you are at least a little right, then you make the best argument for replacing Brown. Those problems would best be handled by someone with a more diverse background and people skills.

Logsdon with his Military background would not be nearly as intimidated by this daunting task as someone with the background of our Mayor.

Infrastructure etc. as you talk of is something that must be fixed by someone who can coordinate the diverse group of individuals that can work the solution. Imagine the Mayor, who is unable to get along with any other Goverment organization in the County trying to do this.

If you are right, then you make the best argument for change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Military is all about stepping into situations like this and getting the job done. Commanders replace Commanders all the time. The job is the thing, and not who started or supported the concept.

Many politicians in Fayette County forget how they were elected. Carol Fritz and Dan Tennant, for example, convinced voters they were candidates of the people. Not long thereafter they weakened and were influenced by the developers, voting for Big Boxes and allowing illegal debt to grow. Not Steve Brown. He remembers that it is the common family and taxpayer that trusted him and elected him as Mayor. And it is these people that will return him to office for another term.

With Mayor Steve Brown’s return to office we will continue to see Open Government addressing the issues that face us. Consider for example the looming obligation of Stormwater, a subject of debate on these blogs. The Stormwater issue offers a very good comparison of the candidates. Brown has a plan in motion. Brown discusses the issues openly. He studies the matter. He debates it. Logsdon says “I need to study it”; “it will take years”; “I will get back to you on that”. Again, Logsdon will be a return to the more secretive, cryptic government of the past. This government of the past gave us the many financial and infrastructure problems we face today. Logsdon will be less interested in solving a long term infrastructure problem like stormwater (following the lead of Lenox) then in catering to the short term interests of developers.

Citing Steve Brown’s rough manner, supporters of Logsdon suggest that his military reserve experience will be better suited for service. “He will get things done”, they say. The frightening reality of that suggestion is that Logsdon will, indeed, be a good soldier. But he will be following the orders of the developers and not the will of the people. At some point in time, the development of the planned community known as PTC had to come to an end. That is now. The developers have to take no for an answer. It is time for them to move on to other communities.

The people of PTC will remain faithful to the vision of this community and they will return Steve Brown as Mayor.

Where have you been that your timeline is so twisted? Prior to Brown, The Tennis Center expansion wasn't yet built. A funding mechanism paid debt and there was no growing debt. Under Brown, after the funding mechanism was cut, the Tennis Center finished, the Debt began to grow. I think you need to recheck your timeline.

The common family and taxpayer that trusted Brown now face a huge Debt and lawsuit which is a direct result of Mr. Brown's administration. Stop paying your bills and see what happens to you.

Whomever takes office, we need to see Open Government. Steve Brown's illegal closed meeting on Target was halted by Cal and the Citizen Newspaper, so thanks for that. Continued vigilance on anyone in office please.

Now, please explain exactly how this "Logsdon will follow the orders of the developers" scenario plays out please. How exactly in public government does that work? Please explain exactly what you mean and the mechanism which makes that happen, because that should be interesting.

DAPC mismanagement lead to the huge undocumented cost overruns, bleeding operating losses and missing funds. Even DIRECTPAC concedes that the DAPC operations were "technically illegal". The taxpayers have DAPC and Lenox to blame for these huge deficits--- not Steve Brown.

Whoa, hold on. Are you saying that mismanagement during the Brown administration isn't the fault of the Brown administration? The huge undocumented cost overruns happened on Brown's watch. Just like the huge documented cost overruns at the Library. On Brown's watch. Don't lose focus here.

DIRECTPAC is some small group of opinionated individuals that have no bearing on this argument. Are you saying that "legal agreements" were not legal? If this all built on Brown's watch, then don't try to lay this off on Lenox for the huge deficits. It clearly happened on Brown's watch. Clever arguement on Brown's part, but you shouldn't buy into it.

Get it straight, Patti.

DAPC is not nor ever was part of PTC Government under direct PTC control.

Brown was not responsible for DAPC decisions.

I have it straight. Don't parse words.

Agreements drawn and signed between Council and DAPC constitute direction and control. You confuse an agreement to operate the venues with direct control of other DAPC operations.

When PTC Government contracts with the DAPC to run it's facilities, the contract puts PTC Government in control of that contract.

Brown was not responsible for DAPC decisions about other operations of the Authority, but he was directly responsible for their decisions in the operation of the venues. To argue otherwise is folley.

When one contracts with another each party is responsible for their portion of the contract.

Research the minutes and such.

The Tennis Center was a mess before Brown. Heavily because the Development Authority is independent of the PTC governement.

The expansion was the Dev. Auth. idea.

Some of the people who caused these issues are the ones backing Logsdon and to whom he is listening.

Brown and the Council were not the source of the problems. No records, no proofs and hand shake deals were before Brown and his Council.

I see in letter from the Authority, from which I posted extracts, Brown and the Council tried to stop some things that were racking up costs and the Authority said those efforts made them all the more determined to keep going.

Let the court decide it.

The expansion was the Dev. Auth. idea? Where did you get that? The Amphitheatre and the Tennis Center were the Dev Auth. idea too? Is that what you claim? You claim to do research, but if that's what you claim, that's very wrong. The Dev. Auth. was asked to manage both by Council. Can we agree on that? A funding mechanism was put in place, can we agree on that? The attorneys at that time signed off on the deal. Can we agree on that? A legal contract is binding if agreed to by both sides, can we agree on that?

You have proof of hand shake deals?? Signed legal document proof of your allegation? Or, are you just throwing supposition at the wall to see if it will stick in public opinion and continue with discrediting? Of course you don't, so stick to facts. And try to refrain from previous Letters to the Editor in the Citizen as documentation for your facts.

How convenient that Brown uses the Stormwater issue, which is a Mandated Program, to confuse all other misdeeds by his administration. Have you considered that? What else is he trying to hide?

No storm damage expenses would be necessary if developers had taken care of it when they built!!

There would be less damage if PTC had originally enforced codes and such instead of blindly signing off permits and such.

But a blanket 'no problems' is false. Steel pipes have a life of 20-25 years then must be replaced. Retention pond can require dredging at times. Ditches and retention ponds can need cleaned out, dredged, regraded and so on once in awhile. Pipes can silt or get clogged. Construction can sometimes cause unforeseen issues miles down stream.

There is no such thing as build it right then forget about it. Like water and sewage maintenance is required.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with you on your entire blog.

Sorry to disappoint.

Not that simple, Patti. Dig deeper.

It was more complex than a manage this arrangement.

What makes it so murky is there was some sign offs, but in other areas no sign offs.

And please, hand shake deals don't have paper work. That is a problem as well on even proving all the claims floating around them.

GBI said fishy and other legal entities and persons said illegal, suspicious not proper and a list of other terms against the Authority.

People sitting Authority and bank at the same time or one after the other.

So, how about you refraining from attacking about the Tennis issue and letting the courts settle this? We are not going to resolve this.

My position is Brown is correct that court is where this belongs.

How convenient you want to dodge Stormwater being a much needed good plan because you don't want Brown to look good for anything.

How convenient you want to not address Logsdon's lies or ignorance on the issue.

Know what? Those that need the Stormwater Utility are not impressed with Logsdon saying 'begin' and 'years.' They are frustrated and angry. It is the needed right thing to do.

And apparently you don't give a hoot over the need. If it benefits Brown in any way it must be rejected and retooled to work for Logsdon.

Trying to shoot it down is not the answer. Getting Logsdon to speak up is.

Not so simple back at you.

You can't possibly know what was a hand shake deal if anything like that existed, so don't pretend to know it existed. Brown did everything possible to foul the works of the DAPC, cut funding, directed their operations, appointed new directors, caused their demise, and STILL debts occurred because of those actions, and now you expect me to not question it? I could care less if the courts will settle this, it still needs to be discussed in the Court of Public Opinion, and my Opinion is that Brown threw the Baby out with the Bath Water, so to speak. By destroying funding and management and installing a puppet organization run by PTC Council members who then bungled the mess is a direct liability to the Brown Administration.

Refrain from attacking the Tennis issue? I don't think so,, where there's smoke there's fire, and this issue is SMOKING. Shame on Brown.

Another error on your part is the dodge of the Stormwater issue. I don't oppose it. I'm not sure who does, if anyone. Good on the current PTC staff for getting the plan together. Well done! How they were able to do it, in spite of Brown, or with his help is laudible.

Saying I don't give a hoot over the need is wrong and misguided. So what if it benefits Brown. He's the Mayor and he should have done it, in fact shame on him if he hadn't.

Speak for yourself John Smith.

Enough on the Dev. Auth. It is in court where it belongs.

Another error on your part is the dodge of the Stormwater issue. I don't oppose it. I'm not sure who does, if anyone. Good on the current PTC staff for getting the plan together. Well done! How they were able to do it, in spite of Brown, or with his help is laudible.

Which still evades the issue of Logsdon's 'begin' and 'years'.

He is being irresponsible on this issue. And since you talk about irresponsibility being bad then I would take it you are mad at him on this issue?

Enough on the Dev. Auth??? I don't think so. Of all the shame and bad press brought on PTC over this issue, now that the Courts may decide the issue, you think we are bound not to speak of it? What, is there some type of gag order on blogs? I think not. In fact I think Steve Brown should have to answer to his actions, and not dodge it during election cycle is just a convenient thing for him, huh? Yes, how convenient.

Check out Logsdon's site. Call his home phone, his cell phone, send him an email, but ASK HIM YOURSELF, not me. You are the one asking me to qualify his statement. Sorry, can't do it. If you're trying to GOAD him into replying in a blog, then good luck. But contacting him directly is an option.

Mad at him on this issue?? No. Sorry. Didn't you say the plan was already complete?

You seem all upset that Logsdon doesn't blog, but then neither does Brown, except to a minor degree, and most of that is either a rehash of countless Letters to the Editor we've seen before, or a Goad at the current target of the day.

Don't you listen? Logsdon doesn't answer specific questions no matter how you try to contact him.

You guys sound like you have been trained and coached how to respond.

I HAVE tried multiple ways. Dana HAS tried. Others HAVE tried.

Evasion or poor reading skills? I said the Stormwater Utility required the final authorization vote.

The Plans are fully created and ready to go.

You and Logsdon are sand bagging with your dodging and his refusal to even admit the plans exist. 'Begin' and 'years.' His terms on the issue you refuse to address in his quote.

Krafty -
Thank you for sharing your opinion. One note - if the time of development has come to an end, then the developers are already going elsewhere. Annexation is their only hope, and both candidates support that.

Be sure to suport your candidate on Tuesday and vote for him -- oh wait, you can't because you don't live here. Ironic, huh?

So, we have to cave to the developers to get things built? Actually, no.

Developers will go where ever money is to be made. If people like you cave to them they get more money and give us less in return. If people do not cave they get less money, but still will be here for the money they get, and we get more in return.

Developers are complaining now about tighter site standards. Say it is costing them money. But they are still here building.

But I and others live here and we will be voting for Brown.

By the way, some more we know have changed from Logsdon to Brown.

Just to make sure that it is perfectly clear about Logsdon's military service, he was National Guard. Not taking away from their dedication to our country, but it is a part time job, just like the Reserves.

His 30 plus years of military service was most likely served 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a year with intensive training. This is a far cry from someone that spent 30 plus years as a full time, active duty military person.

Dana Kinser

Thanks, Dana. I had been debating making that point.

Too many are equating him as active duty military. Just as they are equating him with career auditor. He was neither.

Now, Patti, you are saying what you want to believe and avoiding the facts.

As I stated before, these are immediate needs, an excellent Utility has been developed to deal with stormwater and it is ready to go.

Brown has not been intimated or daunted by the task. A great plan is ready to go NOW.

Diverse background and coordination? Again, a great plan is ready to go NOW.

Brown would not be running it. The kick off structure has a head, coordinator, three inspectors and three field technicians with equipment.

I have made no argument for change. All of this happened under Brown.

What does Logsdon do? He pretends nothing has been done, says we need to BEGIN looking into it (ah, his platform in an nutshell, begin looking into everything and does not matter what reality is) and then take YEARS to develop a plan.

This shows Logsdon as the one who needs to be avoided. Is he ignorant or lying on the existing Utility Plan (a good plan proven in other cities already)? He does not have years. This must go on line around mid 2008.

This is not a future issue. It is a now issue. Logsdon will derail that and even worse try to get this into the General fund.

You don't have squat of an idea of how Logsdon will be. He is secretive and feels no need to tell voters any actual facts now. That will not change if he is Mayor.

He is playing you guys for suckers. Puts out some pleasant sounding platitudes and lets you fill in the blanks about how he will do things to please your own desire. Shades of Clinton!

But you actually do not have a clue on what he will do. But you do have a clue on how he will do it. That being secretively with the advice of his chosen advisors and backers.

I agree with PTC Guy and Dana. Trumping up service as a reservist tyo imply that he was a combat veteran is misleading. Reserve service is honorable but it is not the same. It is parttime. Likewise, he exaggerates the auditor experience. Question: why is his campaign resume on his short employment experience with Panasonic in PTC ?

My main concern is that the previous Mayors (all of whom had some financial benefit from their relationships with government and the developers) were all too willing to accomodate developers and shortchange infrastructure in the long run. During Lenox's ten years, he spent the impact fees like a drunken sailor. Now that the impact fees are gone and we have some huge infrastructure issues, we are in trouble.

The Stormwater debate is an eyeopener ! Logsdon will lead us into a federally orchestrated nightmare.

With no government experience, Logsdon will continue being controlled by the bankers, the lawyers and the developers that he is now so chummy with. I can see that first meeting: "Hey, Bob, is this when I get to pound the gavel ???"

You assume too much. You also have no idea what Brown will do. Maybe he is playing you for a sucker.

How obtuse to diminish the military career of Logsdon, or his work as an auditor. Then in the same article compare him to Clinton?? What kind of warped logic is that? If you want to compare backgrounds, then Brown's WEAKEST is that he has none. As for Logsdon knowing the intimate details of the City's business on a day to day basis compared to Brown, it would be impossible for any outsider to know as much as an incumbent. Doesn't make the incumbent right.

You make all these assumptions about Brown will do this or that, yet you haven't any idea exactly what Brown will do. And if a great plan is ready to go NOW, then no-one needs Brown to supervise it.

You also keep putting words and intentions into the guise of Logsdon's plan. Then accuse him of being either ignorant or lying? What kind of sick logic is that? I don't have squat of an idea how Logsdon will be? Nope, and neither do you, so don't assume things. One thing I do know is how Brown has been, and it needs to be changed.

You assume too much. You also have no idea what Brown will do. Maybe he is playing you for a sucker.

No I don't.

I have the Stormwater general plans at home. I went to the Stormwater Public Forum. And did more.

So, I do know what he will do and approve.

How obtuse to diminish the military career of Logsdon, or his work as an auditor. Then in the same article compare him to Clinton??

I did not diminish his career. Dana has filled in the blanks there. He saw as well Logsdon was presenting himself in a manner allowing to assumption of full time military and always an auditor.

Are you yelling at Dana for bringing these issues forward several times before I mentioned them once? No.

What kind of warped logic is that? If you want to compare backgrounds, then Brown's WEAKEST is that he has none.

You are having a hard time staying focused on topic and quoting people correctly.

Dana brought up the clarification on what Logsdon's career was versus what was implied. I agreed and neither of us put down or scoffed.

We were not comparing careers. We were clarifying the assumptions on one.

As for Logsdon knowing the intimate details of the City's business on a day to day basis compared to Brown, it would be impossible for any outsider to know as much as an incumbent. Doesn't make the incumbent right.

The Stormwater data is available to all citizens. It is largely on the Peachtree-city.org site. Go look and read.

Logsdon has no excuse on this issue for not already having a position. No excuse for not knowing. No excuse for implying nothing has been done.

You make all these assumptions about Brown will do this or that, yet you haven't any idea exactly what Brown will do. And if a great plan is ready to go NOW, then no-one needs Brown to supervise it.

Double talk. It is not assumption the plan is there.

If you had taken a little time out of your attacks to research you would have known that.

Yes, it is ready to go. No, the final vote has not been taken and Logsdon indicates he will derail it for years or go a different direction.

You also keep putting words and intentions into the guise of Logsdon's plan. Then accuse him of being either ignorant or lying? What kind of sick logic is that?

I am not putting words into Logsdon mouth. The 'begin' and 'years' are quotes from him.

So he is lying or ignorant when he says his 'begin' and 'years' statements?

Don't believe me? Go the the Fayette Chamber of Commerce site and read for yourself.

I don't have squat of an idea how Logsdon will be? Nope, and neither do you, so don't assume things. One thing I do know is how Brown has been, and it needs to be changed.

Anyone but Brown. Real educated meaningful vote.

Because a Mayor governs on substance and issues.

Brown is abrasive but he has the correct position on the Tennis Center, Cart Paths, Stormwater and Annexation.

Logson has only indicated how he will dodge and stonewall the Stormwater issue by playing the game nothing has been done and it all remains to start from scratch.

And has indicated a desire to assume the Tennis Court debt.

'I will look into it' has no substance.

So Brown lied? So has Logsdon.

Brown has made unkept promises? On taxes Logsdon has made promises he cannot keep.

You want to vote for personality, remember what that got us with Carter and Clinton.

Substance is not always pretty. But at least it gets the job done.

Brown is abrasive. The Tennis Center, Cart Paths, Stormwater and Annexation situations will all be solved eventually but Brown will still be abrasive among other things.

Time has run out of some of those issues. Someday is not good enough for people's homes that are threatened more and more. Or for collapsing infrastructure like when part of Peachtree Parkway caved in.

So Brown is abrasive. At least he backs real solutions.

Time has run out on what issues? People's homes are threatened more and more by what?? Collapsing infrastructure isn't when a sink hole pops up? What's your point?? You are either as demented as the Mayor or You are Steve Brown himself.

Would you know if you were?

On one hand I understand the frustration.

On the other his lips should have not parted in this way.

Christmas Tree, Grand Christmas Tree or whatever Christmas Tree. That is where I am.

But a question I don't know an answer to. As in what has Logsdon said on this? Has he said it should be named Christmas Tree or has he been silent to not state a PC position backing Grand Tree?

Not trying to defend Brown here or a PC Tree. Just wondering where Lodgsdon stands in this? I don't know.

Apparently PTC American Legion Post Commander Zerillo wanted a boycott of the event.

Then from the AJC today again: Zerillo discussed his concerns about Peachtree City's terminology with Logsdon, but Logsdon said he didn't recommend a boycott.

"It's not politically motivated," Logsdon said. "I'm not so upset that I'm going to avoid it. It's still a Christmas celebration to me."

Thanks!

Hmmm. I have had to much experience with semantics and gamesmanship not to see a problem here.

Logsdon never said Christmas Tree, did he?

If that is the case and I had to bet on it I would say Logsdon backs Grand Tree and not Christmas Tree.

That is not paranoia. Just years of experience in how words are used.

Edit to add: With a politician with an advisor he would have said something like, "While I would prefer it was named Christmas Tree or Grand Christmas Tree I do not believe this should be persued."

PTC Guy, looks like you are guilty of a couple of sins for which you have chastised other bloggers - semantical games and refusing to answer a question about your candidate in favor of spinning it off into "Oh yeah? Well what did Logsdon do?".

Take off your Rose Colored Glasses. Wrong Assumption.

From the AJC today: "They need to call it a Christmas tree and call it a Merry Christmas," the retired Army lieutenant colonel said.

Brown said choosing "grand" over "Christmas" is simply marketing.

OK, now spin it any way you want, but Brown is a child in a man's game and still he has loyal supporters willing to forgive him his stupidity. It doesn't do much for your character to continue on this issue, but that's up to you.

You seem to have a computer, Doubting Thomas, go to the site and read it.

You changed the info supplied. That changes the formula.

Glad that is his position.

Doesn't change squat that Logsdon has said nothing of substance on being Mayor and his lies and stonewalls on Stormwater.

Difference is when I get different information I will change. Your rose colored glasses seem glued on even in light of facts.

Where are your admissions Logsdon is playing games on Stormwater? And has said nothing of substance, as in 'I will look into it' are vaporous statements?

What is with you Logsdon people on line? Something gets pointed out or you are disagreed with and you go personal?

Grow up and talk substance. Oops! You cannot since Logsdon has said any!

Good grief, you have no intention of changing Candidates, you're just hurling blather. That's fine, you and most of Brown's supporters have the same tack.

I don't know Logsdon, haven't met him, not on the team. I'm just an anybody but Brown person. Yup, that's it. Logsdon could be a fool, and I wouldn't vote for Brown. Logsdon could do the worst job in the history of Peachtree City, and He won't be the worst Mayor in the eyes of most PTC Citizens. I'm surprised that Logsdon actually looks like a pretty good Candidate, but I, like many would vote for anyone that would depose Brown.

Does that mean Brown has done a pretty good job and I just hate him? No, not at all. Brown is a horrible person, who's done a despicable job and is a Blight on PTC's history. He won't go away, I'm not that naive, but he'll face an Army of detractors with allegiance to no-one in particular, but instead we know someone who needs to be stopped. Let's hope Brown runs for something else locally, so he and his friends can again be defeated.

You've found your horse, now ride it.

I'd have thrown up my typing fingers in frustration about four posts ago!

Save us all some time and just post a blog on notifying all of us your blanket answer for everything is 'I am sure Logsdon will take care of it.' Then Brown stinks and if you vote for him you are stupid.

Yep. That sums up your arguments.

To answer your above post, I dodged no quesiton or issue.

When I was shown Logsdon did say it should be a Christmas Tree I complimented him on that position, which is also mine.

And I have played no semantical games.

Pattiadams’ Original Question - "Is this really the individual we need leading Peachtree City as our Mayor? In the midst of confrontation, he chooses the most childish of terms to express his frustration. We need better. How can anyone defend this man?"

PTC Guy’s Answer: "On one hand I understand the frustration. On the other his lips should have not parted in this way.” And then, “what has Logsdon said on this?” followed by the classic (as in, I laughed out loud when I read it) “Logsdon never said Christmas Tree, did he?” And then I believe you eloquently concluded, “That is not paranoia. Just years of experience in how words are used.”

Sounds like evasion, diversion, and playing semantics to me.

That was an answer on the topic subject, the tree.

But since you are so upset I added another wider reply.

So much for staying on topic.