Agencies want answers to traffic problems

Mon, 08/14/2006 - 8:44am
By: Ben Nelms

Agencies want answers to growing traffic problems

Every motorist traveling the roads of South Fulton County can attest to the tremendous increase in traffic congestion in the past few years. A prime example of that congestion is the intersection of I-85 and Ga. Highway 74. A new effort to tackle current and future congestion sprang to life Thursday with the South Fulton Freight Mobility Tour.

A local effort initiated by area resident and long time South Fulton community activist Sandra Hardy brought representatives of the Atlanta Regional Commission, Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport, CSX Railroad, MARTA and others together to visit areas of congestion in South Fulton and discuss the need for a formative dialogue to combat what will otherwise become continuous gridlock in coming years.

“The reason to have this meeting today was to educate the participants, because they did not know and do not know what we are facing right now and what we will be facing in the near future,” Hardy said. “Addressing this issue today is an important part of controlling our own destiny.”

Beginning at the CSX Intermodal facility in Fairburn and traveling along Oakley Industrial Boulevard and the Hwy. 74 Corridor, participants got a taste of the congestion facing local residents in Fulton, Fayette and Coweta counties. The tour continued up Ga. Highway 92, through the rolling hills of South Fulton and on to Fulton Industrial Boulevard, home to many distribution centers and the large Norfolk Southern Intermodal facility.

“Some of the things we must address are the environment and safety, the traffic that is impacting us and the roads in this area so we can move the tractor/trailer trucks invisibly from the CSX and Norfolk Southern facilities. This means that we are going to have to lobby for funding for exit ramps and better roads so we can move those vehicles to the different distribution centers,” Hardy said. “And we’re talking about the whole region. The South Fulton area is sandwiched between Norfolk Southern and CSX. That was the main reason for going over to Fulton Industrial today, so the people doing the study could see what was happening to us, like on Highway 92. (Le Jardin’s) Brian Jordan doesn’t realize what will happen to the front of his development and Martha Stewart’s development because the traffic from Norfolk Southern will come and is coming from Fulton Industrial Boulevard and is going right and in front of their developments. Because the two companies exchange cargo, they go from the large Norfolk Southern facility to CSX here in Fairburn or south on I-85.”

Adding to the growing number of 18-wheelers are those that service the increasing number of large distribution centers that continue to dot the landscape in and around the I-85 corridor in South Fulton.

“If we don’t address this problem today it’s going to be very gnarly in the future,” Hardy said. “I’m not a fortune teller, but I predicted six years ago that this would be a major concern and everybody laughed at me. And now look at the major concern we’ve got today. Nobody’s laughing any more.”

Hardy gave the example of the intersection at Oakley Industrial and Ga. Highway 74. Six years ago, she said, there were no hotels, no fast food restaurants, virtually nothing at all. Today, the intersection is teeming with increasing businesses, increasing truck traffic from mega-distribution centers, all with no end in sight.

“CSX really brought the centers here. Warehouses and distribution centers need to be close to something like a rail intermodal,” Hardy said.

While doubtless complicated, the solution to the freight congestion problem both today and tomorrow, she said, will require the combined efforts of elected officials, Atlanta Regional Commission, Georgia Regional Transportation Authority, MARTA, and the Georgia Dept. of Transportation. The failure to address this issue will result in even greater problems that no one wants.

“If we don’t address this issue we will be in as much gridlock at what we see today in northeast metro Atlanta,” Hardy said.

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Submitted by lyn on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 12:11am.

I MOVE FROM FLORIDA 2005 TO FAYETTE COUNTY AND FOUND IT TO BE A BIG MISTAKE. THIS COUNTY WORKERS DO NOT SEEMS TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THE COUNTY SYSTEM IS SO CONFUSING AND POOR.

NOT ENOUGH SHOPPING TO DO IN PEACHTREE CITY, TYRONE OR EVEN FAYETTEVILLE. THSE CITIES ARE VERY DEAD NOTHING TO DO HERE, EVERY THING IS SO FAR APART.

WE HATE IT SO MUCH THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING MOVING TO FRANKLIN, TN, BRENTWOOD, TN, SUGARLAND, TX, WOODLANDS,TX, KATY, TX. THEY NEED TO BUILD UP TYRONE, FAYETTEVILLE AND FAIRBUNE MORE. WELCOMING LOCAL BUSINESSES, STORES AND MORE OUT DOOR SHOPPING AREA, MORE BANKS. THIS IS ALSO THE BIGGEST RACIST COUNTY IN AMERICAN AND I HAVE TRAVEL ALL OVER.

NOT ENOUGH ACTIVIES FOR THE KIDS TO DO, NO BASKET BALL ACTIVIES, NO OUT DOOR WATER PARK ACTIVIES DURING SUMMER TIME ETC.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS VERY VERY VERY BAD AND ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THE KIDS GRADES SO THEY CAN LOOK GOOD. MY SON VIDEO EVERY THING THAT GOES ON THERE EVERY DAY AT IS SCHOOL AND AFTER 2006 WE WILL SEND IT TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW.

THE SOUTHHAMTON COMMUNITY IN TYRONE, IS VERY BORING ALL THE HOMES THERE LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ABOUT TO FALL AND EACH OTHER SOON, AND ARE NOT ENOUGH TREE TO BEAUTIFY THE COMMUNITY. NO COMMUNITY ACTIVIES, AND IT IS NOT WELL KEPT UP ACCORDINGLY. THERE ARE ALOT OF HOMES ON THE MARKET FOR SALE BECAUSE OF THIS.
THE ASSOCIATION FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS A BIG JOKE ALSO.

P.S. THE COUNTY IS NOT ALL THAT AND IS NO LONGER ON CNN.COM BEST PLACE TO LIVE.

THIS COUNTY WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO LIVE HERE IF IT WAS MORE MODERN AND UPDATE 21ST CENTURY COUNTY.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 9:52pm.

...all e-mailed me and asked that you consider Afghanistan for your next move. Your son will enjoy videotaping the lovely mountain scenes, and I hear the natives sell colorful outfits for you and yours.

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Submitted by ImJustSaying on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 9:39pm.

Oh my!!!


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Submitted by All Smiles on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 9:34pm.

I've lived in Fayette County (Peachtree City) my entire life, almost 40 years. My previous job with Citibank took me to every corner of this country and every city that you are considering moving to with the exception of Sugarland. I along with thousands and thousands of other Fayette County residents love our humble community that already has too much shopping and too much traffic. Since you hate it so much, I’m on my knees begging you to move, I’ll even help you pack!!!

I’m not aware of a single person who moved to Fayette County because of CNN.com. I’m glad we’re not on the list, maybe the growth will slow down. As for schools, I’ll agree that the entire state of Georgia is behind many states in the country but if you’re going to live in Georgia, the Fayette County School System is as good of option as any. You may want to ask your son to put down his video camera and teach you the proper usage of the English language, past and present tenses and the correct usage of plurals and punctuation. I went to school in Fayette County and with my “very, very, very bad” education; I count 37 grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors in your entry. May I recommend when you sent the video to the state, you better let the neighbor’s first grade student write the cover letter.

Fayette County is a wonderfully clean, beautiful and safe place to raise children with a plethora of recreation activities just for the youth. Did you know that in our boring county we have 4 different basketball associations for our youth, not to mention 3 football, 4 soccer, 5 baseball, 4 softball, swimming, lacrosse, BMX, hockey, etc, etc, etc? Obviously not! I’m not sure what box you live in…maybe you should spend less time complaining and a lot more time investigating the incredible options available to the youth of the county…better yet, PLEASE MOVE!


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Submitted by muddle on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:05am.

Please, no!

Actually, I was going to propose the reforestation of acreage now occupied by strip malls and big boxes.

The Pavillion area could be turned into an awesome park complete with nature trails.

Also, with sentences like "THIS IS ALSO THE BIGGEST RACIST COUNTY IN AMERICAN AND I HAVE TRAVEL ALL OVER" and "THIS COUNTY WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO LIVE HERE IF IT WAS MORE MODERN AND UPDATE 21ST CENTURY COUNTY," one wonders whether the author is qualified to offer the assessment that, "THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS VERY VERY VERY BAD."

What you not like? Do your son not like it too? He no learn good at school or playing basketball? We sorry.


Submitted by 30YearResident on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 8:58am.

Sometimes I just can't seem to keep my mouth shut.

What is ruining Fayette County are folks like you, who see something wrong in everything

There are two old sayings I'd like to pass along to you:

1. The road that brought you here, will take your out of here.

2. Delta is ready when you are!

Oh yeah, a question to your comment "Biggest Racist County"... please define "Racist" .

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Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 9:22am.

racism [rey-siz-uhm]

–noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one is deeply offended and fearful of another culture's bad behaviour and motives.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. frustration and intolerance of another races bad behaviour and unproductivity.


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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 8:30am.

Is this some kind of joke? Obviously from the way you worded your sentences you aren't from around here or this country for that matter so why dont you do us all a favor and move back to where ever it is you moved from and run the nail salon there honey! By the way, how much do you charge for a pedicure?


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 7:46am.

Smiling


Submitted by SoCalMama on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 6:45am.

Considering the way you have structured your sentences and paragraphs, I don't think you have much room to talk about "bad school".

I think you need to put down the crack pipe and get a friggin clue.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 5:40am.

STOP SHAKING YOUR HEAD IN UTTER DISBELIEF!!
GET THOSE FINGERS OFF THE KEYBOARD!!
Clearly, anything this over-the-top MUST be a fake, and not iworthy of a response! Either LYN is trying to be funny, or else trying to get a rise out of all you site regulars. DON'T GIVE HER THE PLEASURE! Of course, if by some slim chance MISS LYN is for real ... show some mercy on the poor dumb woman!

"FAYETTE COUNTY IS THE WASTE IN THE COUNTRY" ... So bad it's funny!


Submitted by LostIslander on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 4:41am.

"NOT ENOUGH SHOPPING TO DO" . . .

Does the extent of your interests end in shopping? Had you moved to Atlantic Station, you would have been immersed in it. Generally, people don't choose nature-filled areas in which to lament a lack of shopping. What is it you need so much of?

"EVERY THING IS SO FAR APART."

Did you research your destination? This is a somewhat rural-tinged suburb. Not as pedestrian-friendly as it seems on the surface and absolutely demands your own automobile.

Why are you considering only southern cities? You can find much more congestion, shopping, and pedestrian-friendly areas in the north. Try NYC or DC.

How many banks do you need to use at a time? There are too many here as it is.

Sadly, there are far more racist counties in America than Fayette County, GA. You may have been traveling with blinders on.

For the record, it was not Fayette County that made the CNNMoney.com's Best Places to Live, it was Peachtree City.

Are you interested in anything beyond spending your money? You're located less than an hour from unlimited opportunities to do so, and with the current price of petroleum, you'll be able to spend plenty on the way to those opportunities, thus giving you much reason to need more banks, I guess?????

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Submitted by ILuvFayette on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 3:25am.

would have gotten a better education had he actually tried to learn something instead of spending all his time "videotaping".


Submitted by Cranky Princess on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 12:45am.

Are you a Blog Troll or on drugs? If life in Fayette County is soooo bad, let me be the first to encourage you to move. By all means let some other city have the pleaseure of your company. I'm sure we can get along without you. Perhaps you should have done some research on your move before you chose Fayette County.

*****THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS VERY VERY VERY BAD AND ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THE KIDS GRADES SO THEY CAN LOOK GOOD. MY SON VIDEO EVERY THING THAT GOES ON THERE EVERY DAY AT IS SCHOOL AND AFTER 2006 WE WILL SEND IT TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW****

I am curous what you feel a school system should care about?

BTW. Last I knew Fairburn was in Fulton County not Fayette.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 2:57pm.

And the bridge being widened at 74/I-85 before it gets out of hand would be nice.

I think the ramp at 92 has been mentioned before, you could get off coming south on 1-85 and get on going north from 92 to I-85 North.

As a long time Henry County resident, I saw what happens when an area is neglected too long, I-75 @ Eagles Landing. Bridge was delayed/put off/postponed for many reasons, and the area became a choke point. I would like to see 74/I-85 addressed before it gets to this point. As of right now, it's not near that point from my personal experience.

The communities in the area could help with zoning, etc, but don't hold your breath. You can get most any density you want in South Fulton/Fairburn/Palmetto.

Submitted by FayetteFlyer on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 4:28pm.

Having been through the lovely forementioned interchange in Henry, I couldn't agree more! Something needs to be done to better access I-85 before all those row-houses and that hideous distribution center at Oakley IND come fully online. Im' no traffic engineer, but that ain't a bad idea big Dawg!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 3:24pm.

Now if the rest of PTC would get it’s collective head out of the sand, or elsewhere, we might get somewhere.

If we don't embrace GRTA/mass transportation than don't complain when it is shoved down/up you’re a$$.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 5:30pm.

move to a county with it.

We don't want it.

As for shoving, name a county it has been forced upon.

Further, give a link to this authority. The GRTA site says can assist counties. Not one word about just adding a system on their own.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 6:33pm.

GRAT has the authority to force it on you.

Try not being such ostrich, read the GRTA home page.

You will see that GRTA has the authority to effect the coveted "Land use Plan" for any county under their jurisdiction. Fayette County is under their jurisdiction.

In addition to that they control the Federal Highway money for the entire state.

It's people like you that are going to doom Fayette County to get a system not of our own choosing.

I've already contacted Sandra Hardy in an effort to coordinate Fayette Countys efforts with that of Fulton County, and we're working on a plan with GRTA.

You had your chance. I’ve asked you, and et al, many times in the past to help, you chose to look the other way. Now, with the help of Greg Dunn, it's our turn.

I hope you like what we decide. Than again, I don’t care what you like.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 08/15/2006 - 8:29pm.

Post the link to where it says they have the authority.

Nothing I read on the GRTA site says that. Assist is not to compell.

I guess you did not listen. I posted the studies and have lived where mass transit is.

And YOU never responded on the data about Newnan. Just went silent when I posted about the stats.

Later. Time will tell, as always.

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Submitted by nuk on Mon, 09/25/2006 - 8:06am.

GRTA definitely has the power to implement whatver plan they decide upon even if the locals might not like it. That was one of the biggest controversies when GRTA was created: all the power(and road money) that usurps the ARC and local government.

http://www.grta.org/about_us/sb57.htm
(2)(A) The initial jurisdiction of the authority for
32 purposes of this chapter shall encompass the territory
33 of every county which was designated by the United
34 States Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) in the
35 Code of Federal Regulations as of December 31, 1998,
36 as a county included in whole or in part within a
37 nonattainment area under the Clean Air Act and which
38 the board designates, through regulation, as a county
39 having excess levels of ozone, carbon monoxide, or
40 particulate matter.

41 (B) The jurisdiction of the authority for purposes of
42 this chapter shall also encompass the territory of

43 S. B. 57
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SB57/AP

1 every county designated by the USEPA in the Code of
2 Federal Regulations after December 31, 1998, as a
3 county included in whole or in part within a
4 nonattainment area under the Clean Air Act and which
5 the board designates, through regulation, as a county
6 having excess levels of ozone, carbon monoxide, or
7 particulate matter, provided that the jurisdictional
8 area encompassed under this subparagraph shall be
9 contiguous with the jurisdictional area encompassed
10 under subparagraph (A) of this paragraph.


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