Open Letter to our Plantera Neighbors

There are any number of cliche's that I could use regarding your traffic woes. However the one that seems to be most appropriate is "What fools these mortals be."

First, allow me to confess - I am one of those outsiders who traversed your subdivision on our streets! Yes, two, perhaps three times each month during the construction at Hwy 54/74.

You made a big fuss aboout the horrible traffic, begged the City for relief, and now you have it!

Congratulations! Just goes to show what can be done when neighbors ban together! Had you only waited a couple of months, you would have had the relief you seem to need so desperately.

Interesting to note - those of us who live in Clover Reach never complained when you moved in to your homes and began the four times a day trips to Huddleston School! We just took it in stride as one more price of growth and development.

So now you have your nine speed bumps and 25 mile per hour school zone speed limit!

I'll still cut through your sub division from time to time, maybe 2 or three times a month. I'll put up with the speed bumps on those occasions - but you have to live with them every single day!

I'll tolerate the 25 mile an hour speed limit on these few occassions- but you have to live with it every day!

So again, congratulations! You have done yourselves proud!

Please allow me one final comment - be careful what you wish for - you may just get it!

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Submitted by mudcat on Tue, 07/25/2006 - 6:41pm.

Planterra (2 r's) will be fine, thank you. Clover Reach may have issues, however. Haven't been to CR in years, but we'll do a field trip and get back to you on how you should run things over there.
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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Tue, 07/25/2006 - 5:25pm.

in any residential area. If you want to drive faster, stay out of neighborhoods.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 07/25/2006 - 5:56pm.

I rarely drive through there.

But I have to ride my brakes to keep from coasting faster than 25 MPH.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 07/26/2006 - 9:07am.

Use them in a residential area. Smiling. I can't believe that some folks really think they should drive any speed they choose, especially in this town. Not accusing you at all, but you know what I mean. PTC is full of walkers/joggers/little kids on bikes etc. We have paths every where coming out on residential streets. I'm not comfortable at over 25 MPH in these areas. I don't care whose fault it would be, hitting someone in my car is NOT an option I want to live with the rest of my life.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 07/26/2006 - 2:55pm.

Yep. I have brakes.

But if one cannot see potenial pedestrian and other issues at 30 or 35 MPH, and react, one should not be driving.

And if one cannot see at 35 and react, going 25 isn't going to change a thing.

So, you not being comfortable sets the speed?

Yes, the law is the law.

But, I remember when 55 max was going to save lives. All it did was increase highway congestion and the number of accidents.

Tell me, where on Planterra Way are there blind spots that prevent one from seeing what is in front of them?

I believe the bigger problem is trying to compensate for folk on the road who should not have licenses to begin with. And we got a good number of them in Fayette.

Lowest common denominator is a bad rule for licensing people and making laws.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 07/26/2006 - 3:38pm.

I can see them fine, probably better than most, but can they see me?

There is a big difference in stopping distances between 25 and 35. It is not linear at all, it goes up exponentially in relation to speed. Generally braking distqance is .06 times speed squared. Reaction time goes also, it is generally considered to be 1.1 times the speed.

So yes, there is a BIG difference in 35 or 25.

It can be summed up as follows.

#1 The reaction time distance (in feet) = 1.1 times the speed (in miles per hour);
#2 The braking distance = 0.06 times the speed squared;
#3 Thus the total stopping distance = (1.1 × speed) + (0.06 × speed2)

Highway speeds and residential speeds are no in way comparable in any safety analysis.

I realize you don't like to be disagreed with, but in this case, you are wrong thinking there is no difference in 35 and 25. Using the above formula taken from HHTSA site, the aprox stopping time from 25 MPH is 63.6 feet and it jumps to 112 feet at 35 MPH. That's well over 2 car lengths in most cases, almost 50 feet. That is a considerable difference, and is one reason people speeding through residential areas should be ticketed at every opportunity.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 07/26/2006 - 4:07pm.

And as well sometimes higher speed enables one to get past the point of danger.

Braking is not the solution in all issues. Sometimes flooring the car is.

Other than someone backing out of a driveway, where does the difference in stopping distance demand an accident must happen?

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Submitted by Sailon on Tue, 07/25/2006 - 3:10pm.

ANDRED: Whether or not you should remove, on the Sabbath, your oxen from a ditch, where he is being gored by a bull, or not, depends on whether the ox is yours, or someone elses, doesn't it? This is a h... of a comparison to the traffic a new neighborhood created, and then in turn they complained about a similar problem, later. It is like: never complain to the post office department. If you do you will get the opposite of what you wanted!

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 07/25/2006 - 2:32pm.

Anyone have any idea how much the bumps cost?

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Submitted by ole sarge on Wed, 07/26/2006 - 6:08pm.

It seems that they save the really big ones for the cart paths. On some of the hills a cart driver places his spine and passengers at risk.

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