Coweta county is the reason the road is jammed. It happens to be in Fayette Co, but the growth to the south/west is the issue.

Dawg is 100% right that the traffic is coming from the south and west. I’ve been saying that for weeks.

Although this new road will hopefully have a positive effect on traffic going to and from the industrial areas of the city it wont have any impact on the traffic going north on 74.

Does anyone have an idea when the parkway will be completed?

Parkway?

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I think is called McDuff?

Just for giggles.

I was just playing on one of the GA DOT sites and stumbled upon some info.

In 2003 DoT counted some 12,033 vehicles a day on Hwy. 74 from 54 to the Fulton county line.

In 2004 the count was 25,513. In 2006 it’s over 28,000.

http://www.dot.state.ga.us/stars/

Maybe never.

CSX will not allow grade level crossings. And bridges cost a fortune, with no one willing to pay.

PTC sure better not want to foot the bill to enable developers. Let them pay.

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Maybe never there as well.

Pathways is playing pricing games. And Logsdon opposes iminent domain.

Wonder why? Oh, yea, Good Ole Boys R Pathways.

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These pious christians, who have enormous "family values," (only 16 divorces among them) are simply making money. Anyway they are smarter than the average person and can spend the money better than most of us. It will "trickle down."

You use Christian like a dirty word label.

Glad to know what you think of me, since I am one.

Think about. When you use it that way you condemn all as a group.

Is that your intent?

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I admit to leaving the needed quotation marks off the word pious. Christians are no more non-pious than are muslims, hindus, etc. Organized religion is so fakey now. Humans think they can beat the rap at death by doing everything wrong they want as long as they ask forgiveness every once in a while, more often for catholics. This crap of "we can't help it" due to our being born that way, doesn't fly.

I agree many claim to be Christians that have no concept what it reall means.

Don't forget you have a religion too. Everybody has a religion by defintion.

Are you saying liberals are not pious, by your use of the word?

And are you saying we don't have natures that lead us to do something bad, at times, even it if it minor? That you never do what you know better than to do?

Don't be a hypocrite here.

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Of course not. I am not perfect either. But, the difference is I don't pretend I am something I'm not, and start over every week. Some even hire TV stations and rant and rave about their perfection and talking to God. God told me to do this, and God told me to do that! Do you really think that is true? My Lord, if it was true, every one would be gathered around that person worshiping and praying for mercy! We are a product of our indoctrination and fear and lack of faith. We feel more safe in bunches. Our soul will drift off when we die and be protected by our Creator. The Creator doesn't need our false "putting on," repeatedly. Our ignorant talking about who is right and wrong is simply a search for knowledge far beyond our understanding.

I have no use for WoF and that kind of false Christianity.

You have never heard me, or any other Biblical literalist claim to be perfect. We are trying, but know we will never get there in this messed up old flesh.

I won't get into the there can only be one true religion truth, even though it is true. Wrong site for that.

But, please, qualify your statements to not put everyone who says they are a Christian in the same basket. A lot of frauds and misinformed out there.

I recognize every liberal does not believe in the same thing. There is no one singular Liberal Basket. Just return the recognition and quite slamming me along with those like Paulk, Robertson and Crouch.

Crouch has no more love for my theology than I do for his.

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I have no idea how good of a literal bible christian you are, or if a literal understanding of the bible is the way to live a life even. There are just too many "literal" interpretations for my understanding, and I certainly don't trust my own. My point though is just how serious can people be who try to tell everyone the correct way to live (and worship--as that seems to be required) if they are constantly trying, but always failing? Reminds me of the practicing alcoholic who preaches constantly about the evils of drinking alcohol. He must be pretty evil! It boils down to those who deliberately do wrong, without having to do so, for their own advantage and then say, time after time, "I'm trying." They are not. They are selfish and they know they are.

I have no idea how good of a literal bible christian you are, or if a literal understanding of the bible is the way to live a life even.

What other way can there be to read any book for understanding? Eithere you read it according to what it literally states (remembering figurative language is defined as literal when the figurative either has an accepted literal meaning or is defined by the text, there or elsewhere)

Many people I have debated have claimed to be literal, but prove themselves non-literal quickly.

A quick example, not meant to get a debate going, is the word grace. Which means gift, unearned.

They, per doctrine, redefine it to mean being enabled to earn. Which totally defies the meaning of grace. Yet they call it grace.

I have learned much in 45 years of study. Perfect knowledge, no. But most assuredly better than most on the basics.

There are just too many "literal" interpretations for my understanding, and I certainly don't trust my own.

It is hard to keep personal opinion out. But getting over that hump is essential.

My point though is just how serious can people be who try to tell everyone the correct way to live (and worship--as that seems to be required) if they are constantly trying, but always failing?

Truth does not rise or fall on how well one abides by it.

There are rapists that know it is wrong, know they need to be stopped, know they are not mentally ill, but keep raping.

Does the fact they rape make what they believe about rape false? No.

Reminds me of the practicing alcoholic who preaches constantly about the evils of drinking alcohol. He must be pretty evil! It boils down to those who deliberately do wrong, without having to do so, for their own advantage and then say, time after time, "I'm trying." They are not. They are selfish and they know they are.

Well, shock you! I agree!

But the explanation of the war of the flesh and spirit is a long one I will not engage in here.

The Bible says we are at war with ourselves. That we know what is right but don't always do it. The Apostle Paul, main author of the Bible said that.

He was not making excuses for sin. He was not forgiving the earthly consequences for sin. Nor was he saying God would not take action to correct us from sin.

Again, the issues of the spiritual and flesh sides of sin is too long to get into here.

But when one actually understands them, not as an excuse to sin, but as a reality, they make perfect sense.

We can talk about it. But not here.

I have no holier than thou attitude. That is pride and blindness only a fool embraces.

Now a little shot at some liberals.

Some of the environment extremists preach about saving trees and such. Yet, they build log timber homes.

The timber in such homes could have built at least 7 lumber homes.

So recognize not all of any group label belong in that group label or fall under any one banner.

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It's the Coweta folks who will be complaining about better access. It's already started on this board.

But who's appraised value. The scum at Pathways who uses their influence - the Home Source Realtors and their ability to direct business to appraisers OR the city who has no influence over appraisers. Remember it it Doug Mitchell (senile as he may be) still pulling the strings. His last chance at power.
meow

Logsdon didn't get them to drop the price.

We probably will never know what this was all about. But there was some kind of game attempted, here.

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Well, what do you think?

meow

I can't believe how many times Steve Black asked what he could do or how he could help someone in elective office. When he ran for county commission and beat that old lady he bragged how wired in he was to the system. He is less than honorable and capable of anything - payoff's and bribes are not out of the question.

The price didn't drop out of civic duty.

A price rise/drop now, for political prestige, then backing for something coming up down the road. That is what I suspect.

The timing was just way too convenient. Like the TV show. Drama builds and bomb is diffused in the last 3 seconds.

Time will tell. But PCDC, I mean Path Ways, has a history a lot of people are very aware of.

And Logsdon's being backed by them, and the Good Ole Boys, made a lot of people nervous, in the election.

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