North bound on 74, turning west, blocking the intersection with 54, not allowing south bound to get through the intersection.

All because they are in a hurry to get through.

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The red light cameras made over 2 million dollars the first year they were installed at the intersection of Windy Hill and Cobb Pkwy.
That is money we could use, and maybe instill manners at Hwy74/54 intersection.

Red light cameras result in more accidents. Mainly rear end collisions due to drivers panicking to not enter an intersection the second it turns yellow.

Plus there are other legal issues.

A good many places have removed them due for a variety of reasons.

Unmarked police cars grabbing off groups doing this would create a good amount of fear factor. Might be a good idea.

Getting the TDK By Pass in place, even better.

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What legal issues? It would be interesting to see the accident statistics. The first red light cameras they put in the city of Decatur, alledgedly reduced accidents by 50%.
I have not seen them remove any red light cameras, in fact in Buckhead they just added another one at Lenox Rd. and Peachtree St.
Which cameras have been removed?
I still think it would be a good way to make money.

There's a camera at the intersection of Cheshire Bridge Road/Lenox Road and Buford Highway. I can attest to the fact that it has not deterred people from running red lights one bit. At least three or four cars run the light turning onto Lenox Road every time. I've learned to just sit there for at least 10 seconds when I get a green light or I'd get killed.

You should have the right to face your accuser. You really can't argue with a camera. Even if the camera was having some sort of technical problem, you would be forced to pay the fine.

Actually these little varmints work pretty well apparently. They send you a picture of you with the date and time on it, along the tag no. of the car, with the ticket.
The only reason I know that is because I have gotten 3 and a warning when they were testing a light or camera.
It has absoulutely changed my driving and for the first time in 14yrs people at the intersection of Piedmont/Peachtree St. stop for a red light .......everytime.... its like a miracle. No blocked intersection when you have the green arrow.
I'm one of those people who does not fight a speeding ticket or other ticket if I know I'm wrong. Just fess up, pay up and move on. Believe it or not most of us are capable of being wrong.

About 10 years ago, Clark was a strong advocate for red light cameras at traffic intersections. He believed these cameras would reduce injuries and fatalities because people would change their behavior.

But they may not be as helpful as once thought. In fact, the Washington Post just completed a six-year investigation, which showed that these cameras do nothing but beef up the money collected by jurisdictions.

In Washington D.C. alone, $32 million in fees have been collected.

Worse yet, accidents have actually increased at the intersections where red light cameras are installed. The conclusion is that the cameras do not deter behavior at all.

Twelve states are now using these cameras. The only state that has rescinded them is Virginia, which as outlawed them.

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Adding to Clark's notes, they also do not always give a ticket that should have been given. There is no human judgement.

I believe, over time, they will be banned, legally.

Increases accidents and such are not worth it.

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ArmyMAJretired posted one, of many, studies, from the US, Canada and UK that show badly increased accident rates.

As for the legal issues, I can reference a few I remember. And you can find on a Google.

The cameras are generally installed and maintained by outside contractors. A number of cases arose where they retimed the light, making it impossible to hit the intersection on a yellow and clear. Every fine had to be refunded where this happened.

Several judges have told the jusrisdictions to either provide a pic of the driver as well as the tag. Merely knowing which vehicle did it does note make the owner responsible for the fine. Fine goes to the driver, not the vehicle.

Many cameras use digital. Digital can be altered without being detectable.

There are cases where vehicles HAD to be in the intersection when it turned yellow to red. Such as to clear for emergency vehicles, keep going to get nailed by the vehicle behind and so on.

That is but a few premises that have caused many to remove them. But enough to show making a ticket stick is not sure fire. And enough to tick off a bunch of people who vote for politicians.

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I found this on Google

Maryland: Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents
Anne Arundel County, Maryland red light cameras increase accidents 25-41 percent, but generate $2.85 million in revenue.

Red light cameras in Anne Arundel County, Maryland failed to reduce accidents in five years of use. A set of five cameras were set up in the communities of Arnold, Pasadena, Parole, and Crofton in 2000, but a comparison of accident statistics five years before and five years after their installation shows accidents have increased beyond the ten percent increase in traffic volume.

Upon installation, the cameras caused an immediate 40 percent increase in rear-end collisions from 53 in 1999 to 74 in 2000. Overall accidents were up between 25 percent and 41 percent from 107 in 1999 to 134 in 2001 and 151 in 2002.

The county recently dropped camera vendor ACS in favor of ATS which now receives a $20 bounty on every ticket the company issues. So far, $2.85 million in revenue has been generated. ATS cameras issued their first tickets on April 1.

A number of independent studies have documented similar negative side effects to red light camera enforcement. As a result of research on Virginia's camera program, the legislature decided last July to end photo ticketing in the state. West Virginia's legislature approved its own camera ban which was signed into law on March 31.

Using automobiles with which to interlope (that is, cheat) is the same kind of person who cheats at everything they can, thinking that only dummies and meek people stand in line and take their turn. I know some of these people and that is their attitude. A lot of it comes from celebrities and wealthy, powerful people being allowed to avoid lines and having to sit with the riff-raff. Some can't do that and they want to badly. If you ever noticed these people are almost 100% successful with their cheating. The exit from I-85 to PTC is a good example. Those who run up to the head of the line right at the exit are allowed in-just as if they made a mistake in lanes. They didn't and can't help but smile. These are also the same people who ram you from behind leaving a ball game to get out first---they even shout "excuse me, I must go now." Sickos!

But not always.

I go after the bulk of rush hour when I need to go that way. And most assuredly many, but not all, make it.

A lot of time if there is a semi, it is no sweat to be left lane and just drop in and be gone before they get speed up. I never fault that because they are not impacting those behind the semi at all.

But the squeezers and the PC folk that let the rest in tick me off. They do NOT get in on me.

I will make exception for out of state or county plates. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

And increasing amount that try that nonsense are making right turns from the left, when the light is red, of the two turn lanes. That is very illegal and dangerous.

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We could probably agree on left lane buddies paralleling someone in the right lane. Or even driving slower.

Maybe.

Wish the cops would enforce the left lane laws. Sigh, but they do not.

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