It's nitty gritty time for Dunn

We are down to only about 48 hours left until Dunn and Wells will know for certain that they will be leaving the commission at the end of the calender year.

Dunn is grasping at straws in his latest campaign mailers. The level of mistruths is astounding.

Let me make a few examples.

Mr. Dunn accuses Eric Maxwell of violating the law and then of filing a lawsuit against the Commission.
Mr. Maxwell excercised his rights to express himself politically by placing yard signs at his home. The Fayette County Government then placed a criminal charge against Mr. Dunn for this. All of this Mr. Dunn states in his political advertisement. WHAT HE DOES NOT SAY IS THIS!!!
All of the charges were dropped against Mr. Maxwell. There was no violation of a law that was deemed to be unconstitutional. Furthermore, once again the taxpayers of Fayette County had to spend our hard earned money on defending a lawsuit that never should have occurred. Not only that, but the commission settled this lawsuit and had to give Mr. Maxwell some of our tax dollars. It appears that the Commission ( with Mr. Dunn at the helm) was wrong. The sad part about it is that it did not cost Mr. Dunn anything (other thatn his share as a resident)!

Mr. Dunn's direct mailer makes him look as if he was the saviour of Fayette County. It is true that Mr. Dunn has made some right decisions for Fayette County, but the wrong ones are costing us HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS that could be used in much more productive ways to improve our lives here in Fayette County.

Peter Pfiefer can stand alone on this commision for the next two years as the last remaining bastion of failed policies.

Let's get som new ideas on the board and let Mr. Frady and Mr. Horgan work with a group of people (excluding Mr. Pfiefer obviously) that truly have the interest of the county at heart.

IT IS TIME FOR MR. DUNN AND MRS. WELLS TO BE VACATED FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE POSTS AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THEY HAVE ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO BECOME DRUNK WITH POWER AND IT NOW APPEARS THAT THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO GAIN MORE OF IT.

Go out and vote on Tuesday and cast your ballot for Eric Maxwell and Jack Smith in this primary.

It is time for this destructive regime on the County Commission to change!

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Submitted by the weasel on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 9:27pm.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Eric Maxwell and the law suit regarding signs. First of all, Mr. Maxwell is a lawyer and a judge. Who should better be aware of the laws/ordaninces than he? There was a law/ordinance in place which restricted the number of political signs someone could have on their property. Mr. Maxwell elected to violate this ordinance. Again, as a lawyer and judge, who should know better that there are procedures to follow if you disagree or want to change a law? If he felt so strongly about his freedom to express himself, he could have addressed the issue properly and legally. Anyway, he was cited for violation of the law and he, in turn, sued the county. As it was, the county was in the process of reviewing and ammending this particular law and Eric Maxwell was aware of that. He chose to sue the county anyway. So, what should the commissioners have done? Should they have said - oh, sorry Eric, we don't want to restrict your freedom of expression - please feel free to put up as many political signs as you see fit. And then, when 50 or 100 or whatever amount of additional people want to do the same thing, is it still ok? Laws are in place for a reason. When we don't like them there are ways to go about challenging them. Blantantly violating the law is not the way. Is this how he would handle things as a commissioner? If he doesn't like the way something is, just ignore it and do what you want to anyway?

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Submitted by mapleleaf on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 8:08am.

Properly trained lawyers are taught to contest laws with which they disagree in a civilized and legal way.

Let's say you are threatened with a citation for violating an ordinance you consider unconstitutional. Do you go ahead and defy the ordinance, get the citation, and then fight it?

That's risky because you might lose, and then you are stuck with the conviction and the penalty. (That's what happened to a Mormon who was challenging a federal law against polygamy, in a US Supreme Court case the name of which I don't remember, and he ended up with a prison sentence for something like eight years.)

The really right thing to do is to file a lawsuit asking for a "declaratory judgment." That's the tool to use by people who don't want to be too confrontational and wish to receive the court's guidance as to what they can do before they get themselves in a bind.

Lawyers are taught the same thing about police arrests. Do you fight the cop and punch him in the nose because you think he is trying to make an illegal arrest? Or do you temporarily submit and get it sorted out later?

It is not disgraceful to go to court. It's the civilized way to resolve disagreements. What is disgraceful is how much it costs to go to court and how long it takes to get results. That's why so many people are up in arms about lawsuits. What's frivolous is not the lawsuit itself but the circus-like system to resolve them.


Submitted by doc on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 8:42am.

It should never have been passed to begin with. It was an obvious attempt to keep people from opposing more than one of you at any given time. What was the sixth commissioner doing when this was discussed? Besides charging you $200.00 an hour.

This election is the perfect example of how wrong your sign ordinance was. Under your law one could not show support for Eric and Jack. One would have to choose only one to support. Who would ever believe that to be constitutional. Good thing is next election all we'll have to oppose is the weasel.

Submitted by tonto707 on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 9:57pm.

weasel!!!!!!!! Eric Maxwell did the more honorable thing and sued the board to knock down an unconstitutional ordinance(the board knew it was unconstitutional all along)and protect the first amendment rights that are guaranteed you and I under the U S Constitution. Only a fool would suggest that anyone should surrender their rights under the constitution and obey a silly sign ordinance.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 10:17pm.

Violating a sign ordinance or wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers monies on frivolous lawsuits and audits?

Violating a sign ordinance or outing an undercover law enforcement officer and endangering his family?

Violating a sign ordinance or nit picking the sheriffs office over a few thousand dollars of spending while wasting millions on a park in the Northern part of the county that most Fayette County citizens will not use instead of improving the existing parks for a whole lot less money?

Violating a sign ordinance or......I could go on but you get my point.

As far as Maxwell goes the sign ordinance is nothing compared to the campaign ethics charges he was hit with. Whatever happened on that anyways? Good home cookin got it swept under the rug?

I'm telling you folks. Skip Eric Dunn and Greg Maxwell. It won't make a bit of difference as to what happens 6 - 10 years out. The damage has been done and our future is obvious. Look at Clayton County and look into the future.

Vote for either the Duck or Muddle. I like Muddles plan. Rolling back the years and starting over on a few issues.


Submitted by the weasel on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 10:15pm.

When you (tonto707) addressed my comment, I think you missed my point. It is the principle involved. The fact is that an ordinance was in place (as far as I know, not initiated by this commimssion)and it was violated. As I said, when we disagree with a law/ordinance we have the right to challenge it, but there is a process to follow to do this. I would guess that the reason the commission was working on changing this ordinance was because they realized it wasn't consitutional. Mr. Maxwell could not be patient,nor did he follow the process. To me, this was an unnecessary and frivolous law suit on his part.

Submitted by doc on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 8:49am.

Your Marshals intiated the case by writing Eric a ticket.

How can a law suit be considered frivolous when the courts ruled the ordinance was unconstitutional? It means he was right.

You wouldn't know a frivolous law suit if it jumped up and bit you in the... well wait a minute, they did didn't they. All of them jumped and and bit all of you in the Dunn.

Submitted by tonto707 on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 5:15am.

didn't miss your point at all. Fact is, the sign ordinance in place at the time was indeed one produced by the three amigos. The county attorney knew or should have known it was unconstitutional, and so should the board of commissioners.

The greater principle here is recognizing the illegality of the ordinance and taking measures to have it struck down.

By the way, courts are the surest and most expedient means of addressing this kind of issue. Knowing the three amigos, I can assure you they would have never volunteered to do the right thing and change the sign ordinance.

Submitted by rhino on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 10:10am.

I wasn't paying much attention when the whole sign ordinance thing went down. I did know the ordinance was the work of Greg, Peter and Janet. Now I see they knew it was probably unconstitutional, hadn't acted on it and had a lawyer/judge arrested for doing it. Holy cow.

Who made the arrest? It had to be Dunn's private police force - the Marshals - right?

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Submitted by Peter Pfeifer on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 12:26pm.

Many of you are wrong about the sign ordinance(s), yet write as “Authorities”.

The “Old” Ordinance (from one of your posts, “the work of Greg, Peter and Janet (?)”) was written by a previous Commission and was “authored” by HERB! The rest of us were simply trying to uphold a County Ordinance, while we researched and fixed the previous Ordinance. We did.

Also, the Marshall’s do NOT “Arrest” or “Sue” anyone over a violation of the Sign Ordinance. They issue a citation, which gives the person 10 days to come into compliance or to justify their apparent violation. If that is ignored, the person gets a “Ticket”.

We “settled” with Eric because we had CHANGED the Ordinance! If his real motive was to change the Ordinance, it could have been done WITHOUT Eric’s Lawsuit!

Again:

1. “Old Ordinance” was HERB”S.
2. Ordinance FIXED by “Dunn, Wells & Peter”.
3. Nobody was “Arrested”.
4. Suing you was NOT NECESSARY.

Let’s discuss real differences and issues, NOT silly made up stuff.

Peter


Submitted by allend on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 2:30pm.

You sold out respect for yourself to Greg Dunn and Linda Wells. If you think a law suit about an unconstitutional ordinance was not necessary what did you think about the Commission's law suit to gain control of the drug seizure money. That was federal law you were challenging Peter.

What about Greg's public comments about recouping the money in law suits by making the Sheriff allow the Commission to do his purchasing? That was a public statement made by Dunn last week when you know a judge ruled months ago that the Commission doesn't have that power. So that money will not be recouped as Dunn "assured" us it would last week. I don't believe that would have recouped money anyway it was just a power thing.

You've tied yourself to them like an anchor and the rope is around your ankle. That is what wasn't necassary. You could have remained yourself.

The sign ordinance is a minor issue in what will be a huge election for Fayette County tomorrow. I'm curious to see how you will conduct yourself over the next two years.

Submitted by rhino on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 10:17am.

I posted that before I read all the way through. I see that's been covered.

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 8:35pm.

No to Maxwell

Maxwell sued over the signs. Actions speak louder than words. Who is the first and only candidate to use billboards in a Fayette campaign ? Eric Maxwell. That's what he will bring. He is clearly in with several developers as a partner. Why did a developer who came from the Northside give him $500? Why did lawyers give him thousands?

He and his buddies will cash in.


Submitted by Dr Mathew Autera on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 11:14pm.

Eric Maxwell is not in with anyone. As stated in a Blog lastnight it explains the so called controversial contributions, I guess you act before you educate yourself....Maybe you should read before you POST!!! Get the facts!!!

Dr Mathew J Autera.

Submitted by lwmythng on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 8:41pm.

Maxwell was not the first candidate to use a billboard in a Fayette campaign! Get your facts straight! Eric Maxwell is not a developer! No developer gave him money! I guess his legal office is a "development" huh? I guess Mat Autera's health office is a "development" Huh? His 10 acres of hunting land, again a "development" Huh? Give me a break!!! These are lies from a desperate candidate who knows he is soon to be exited from office. But please, for Fayette County's sake, stop drinking the Koolaid given free at Dunn polital rallies!

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 8:51pm.

Just maybe Maxwell is a friend to his clients as well as a lawyer?

Wow! What a novel concept.

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Submitted by JJSXU on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 5:44pm.

If you only know the extent of the actions taken by the county to avoid the public ranker which has developed on the issues between Dunn and Randle.

Our Tax money is ours not the Sheriff’s.

All elected officials have a responsibility to account for taxpayers’ money. We just can’t say oh they are nice people – forget asking them to account for our tax dollars.

You may have overlooked the fact fiduciary responsibility for Georgia Counties by law rests with the Elected County Commissioners – In our case all (5) of them!!!

Remember be careful what you pray for. You may in fact get it.

As for me I will be sadden if you are right since it will be the result of the anonymous free form exchange of misinformation, slander, rumor, and character assassination.
I bet you never visited the county offices to discuss with Dunn or any one else on staff -- what the facts were or actually looked at the exchange of letters.
Peace


Submitted by Eliza on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 7:53pm.

What is "ranker"?

Submitted by Sailon on Mon, 07/17/2006 - 6:52am.

I suppose it would be one who ranks. Maybe the guy who says "you rank higher than he does, would be a ranker?"
However "rancor" is bitterness toward someone or thing, I think. Don't
know which he means. I think he means number two, however.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 6:13pm.

If you only know the extent of the actions taken by the county to avoid the public ranker which has developed on the issues between Dunn and Randle.

Yea. Right. That is why they did the frivolous lawsuits instead of going by the audits and law.

Our Tax money is ours not the Sheriff’s.

Drug bust money didn't come from the tax payers.

All elected officials have a responsibility to account for taxpayers’ money. We just can’t say oh they are nice people – forget asking them to account for our tax dollars.

There were audits. There are audits annually.

You may have overlooked the fact fiduciary responsibility for Georgia Counties by law rests with the Elected County Commissioners – In our case all (5) of them!!!

Not all the money. Such as drug bust money.

Remember be careful what you pray for. You may in fact get it.

Stopping Dunn and Wells from wasting time and money from the County and Sheriff's office is what I want.

And stopping their power grabs that are long standing State and Federal laws.

As for me I will be sadden if you are right since it will be the result of the anonymous free form exchange of misinformation, slander, rumor, and character assassination.

Getting rid of Dunn and Wells will end their slander, rumor and character assinations.

They have been caught on the Sheriff and Maxwell, to start with.

I bet you never visited the county offices to discuss with Dunn or any one else on staff -- what the facts were or actually looked at the exchange of letters.

I don't need to. I have seen their accusations against the Sheriff, Maxwell and some business owners. They lied.

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Submitted by lifeinptc on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 5:57pm.

I've read all of the letters Greg Dunn sent to Sheriff Johnson. There was no action to avoid public ranker, public ranker was the intent with every letter Dunn sent.

Our tax money is not yours, that is the point. What right did you have to spend our tax dollars on your power struggles. "All elected officials have a responsibility to account for taxpayers' money." Exactly. Tuesday Dunn and Wells will be held accountable for the tax dollars they spent unnecessarily. We recognize your fiduciary responsibility but you did not.

The anonymous free form exchange of misinformation was invented by Cal Beverly and Janet Dunn. Both loved the concept until the rest of us caught on to it.

Submitted by Harvey on Sun, 07/16/2006 - 1:17pm.

At the Kiwanis forum Dunn said he and the previous administration both fought to make the Sheriff accountable. We were here Greg. The previous administration had no beef with the Sheriff nor did you in your first term.

Then you got it in for the Sheriff and believed yourself more powerful than him. That's when you began your campaign of harassment. What you call making the Sheriff accountable was nothing more than you making the Sheriff's employees jump thru hoops week after week while your staff inventoried the same items; cars, guns, computers and such over and over again every other week with the sole intent of harassment. All the while you were hoping the Sheriff would say no to one inventory or audit so that you could run to the paper or file a lawsuit.

The cost of the lawsuits is only the beginning of the expense taxpayers had to foot the bill for. The salaries of the scores of employees you had on a constant vigil trying find whatever you could use to try and smear your and Linda's political opponents added to the Sheriff's employees salaries who had to respond to the constant battery of requests was all waste and negated whatever good the two of you had done while in office.

And you found nothing. Nothing. You spent twenty thousand on a forensic audit, which had it produced anything we would know by now because you (or yall) are in your final hour.

If you had stuck to the agenda you now claim was your main focus, slowing growth, you might have been worth your salt. But you got side tracked with the motivation of power and revenge. That's when you cost this county what probably adds up to more than a million dollars in pissing contests.

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