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Too many people know or think they know who Fireside is. It's a shame to say it but he is not suppossed to have an opinion. I have to speak for my own husband because he's not allowed an opinion either.

He's been with the county 16 years and this is the first time I ever remember him being shushed. Where I come from that was our polite way of saying shutup. You're not allowed speak your mind on who you wish to vote for.

We don't care that your merit raise was taken away from you. It doesn't matter that you are no longer paid for the sick leave you don't use and when you don't use it we will take it away from you as punishment for not calling in sick. It doesn't matter that if you had spent those 16 years in Clayton County or Henry County you would only be 9 years from retirement instead of the 25 more years you will have to work here in Fayette County. And insurance? Open enrollment? Choosing your insurance options. Hell no. You will take the insurance we give you and that is that.

I will never again vote for anyone who is currently serving on the Fayette County Board of Commissioners. I can't imagine that anyone who has relatives who are county employees ever would.

The "time for a change" slogan. More than you could possibly know! it is definately time for a change. I don't even care who, it can only get better from here but only with new faces and new ideas about public safety and how best to achieve it.

Not again, which by the way is our families moto this year when we cast our vote for County Commissioners. I think they deserve a merit increase for the job they do and the high level of service that Fayette County citizens expect. You can't earn one when the Commissioners do away with them altogether.

He wasn't in Clayton or Henry for 16 years he's been here. That was my point. Our retirement would look much better if we were there. Try and pay attention to what I am saying if you intend to respond.

If you find yourself being treated by one of our EMTs this year, and I hope you don't, will you be hoping he's new on the job and saved you a couple of bucks on your taxes this year? Will you be hoping he worked his second job until late in the night before he found himself/herself there treating you?

You want to talk about backstabbing? These Commissioners foster and encourage it. Most of the informatiion they operate on comes from disgruntled employees who are backstabbing.

If you meet a public safety employee face to face in the coming weeks and need their services I hope you will share your opinions with him or her.

Because if Greg Dunn and Linda Wells are re-elected I'm going to Fairburn. That's right. The small town of Fairburn has better benefits and a better retirement than Fayette County. They also have a Chief, who we trained here in Fayette County, who stands up for his people.

I'm only dissapointed that more public safety employees are not speaking out here. You can do it without fear of retribution as long as you don't talk about it at work. Speak your mind or quit your bitc**n*!

Fireside, your comments were right on... Smith is obviously the best candidate for the commission.

My only concern is that it will be a Wells/Chapman runoff after the primary.... then the decision will be more like the Bonner/Lackly race.... i.e. do I slice my throat or slice my wrist.
That's when I vote for the Duck!.

Firemen shouldn't be restricted from attending candidate functions. We're citizens too. My job shouldn't be at risk because I stopped by Melears today for a hot dog and can't tell my friends and coworkers what I learned. Got the feeling from Jack Smith that I wouldn't have to worry about that from him.

I always thought wake up was John Thompson. I guess not. You go Wake Up. I agree with you.

Sorry, I am not John Thompson. Probably, you have never even heard of me. I guess you could say I am a regular guy who likes to step in every now and then.

People have fear of cops hunting down and harassing county employees that are following orders (getting county cars back). Also, a little disconcerting to have that helicopter look into your window at their discretion. I doubt that the high sheriff (as Barney would say) has ever gone on a spy mission in that thing. We have written laws and warrants to perform those duties.

What is this about the sheriff spying on us from a helicopter? My lord, between the federal administration listening to our phones and watching our bank accounts we might as well appoint Bush dictator. He may have to be to whip Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and maybe, Pakistan. Old selective service won't be long. Oil went to about $80.00 per 40 gallon today. Russia, much of South America, Iran, and our oil companies are wallowing in wealth. Looks to me as if our arab plan failed miserably.

People have fear of cops hunting down and harassing county employees that are following orders (getting county cars back). Also, a little disconcerting to have that helicopter look into your window at their discretion. I doubt that the high sheriff (as Barney would say) has ever gone on a spy mission in that thing. We have written laws and warrants to perform those duties.

There's a guy named Highgreen who will be coming after you soon. Don't take any crap off of him he's a democrat. He's the guy who was like the hall monitor in High School.

I don't mind my typos being corrected, but some of these things incorrectly written make no sense and are obviously from ignorance. I would think one might appreciate a gentle jab to improve. I hope this fellow you mention keeps up the correcting. The jokes, with mountain language, are one thing but obvious laziness is another.

Nope, not Democrat, didn't go to high school. Went to private school. Was President. I hope you don't think many of us think you have ever known any better than to use your for you are, I don't think you still get it.

Right?

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Excuse me Mr. President. I'm sure your probably right.

The previous papers had the forum page exclusively columns on the candidates essays. This one chopped off the essays, some after only the first paragraph, to give Dunn a half page add because he did not make the deadline. I notice they didn't do that when other candidates missed their's.

Cal, why so biased on this one?

Also includes alienating the towns and cities within Fayette, trying to usurp power never held or allowed by Law, imperial sounding declarations about they did that they did not do at all, such as sewage connection to PTC, lying, subverting such as the Sheriff's Dept., outing undercover cops and on and on.

Gotta go. The Big Picture does not say the developers will get loosed upon Fayette by Maxwell or Smith, but it sure says after the huge jump in ego by the trio after the last election they will assume they have a carte blanch for the next 4 years.

There is more to governance that the Land Use Plan alone.

Cal asks if we can trust Maxwell and Smith to uphold the Land Use Plans as he wishes it upheld. He admits he doesn't know.

But we sure know if we give the full trio 4 more years he is going to be harassing the Sheriff's Dept. and others who do not bow to his demands.

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Eric Maxwell said he would follow the land use plan and no one has presented a reason to think he won't or that he's not a man of his word. All we have is the constant refrain from Greg Dunn's camp and that's all he's got so he's using it.

Seriously, can someone give me one reason to think he won't? Or are we really just absorbing the Dunn camp's refrain like a bunch of brainwashed zombies or is there something I don't know?

If owning 37 acres in another county makes him a threat to develop Fayette County, maybe someone can explain that so I'll understand it.

I have to say it scares me to death to think of what we're in for from a lame duck chairman with no more integrity than Greg Dunn has serving 4 more years.

If they've gotten this bad how bad might they be during the next four years. The Sheriff issue is just an example of their belief that they can take on anyone and destroy them. They use our money to try it in court. And they usually loose. The shame is they try and destroy good people to acheive their own means. If I lived in Tyrone I would be insulted by them walking in with a mere $18,000 for recreation after four years of nothing trying to buy the town. Remember your dignity Tyrone.

What is with all the political signs? They are meaningless. EVERY candidate has littered the county with signs - some in illegal locations & some illegal in size - I know of many of the signs placed in yards not because of support, but because the homeowner was asked - didn't really care or didn't feel comfortable saying no - and agreed to a sign just to be "nice". So much for that.

What is the deal with Maxell/Chapman/Smith???? I guess Eric can't decide who to align himself with. I see many Chapman signs w/Maxell's attached to them. I see a huge ad for a Maxwell/Smith meet & greet, and then I see an ad for Horgan,Maxwell & Chapman. Who does Maxwell support - is he just along for the ride with just anyone? What does this say about his judgement??

Speaking of Horgan,Maxwell & Chapman - I hear criticism of Dunn, Wells, & Pfeifer thinking alike on certain issues. So, how do you feel about Horgan, Maxwell & Chapman? Aren't they the same - all like-minded, good old boy, long-time friends? Will they really be objective regarding the sheriff, local builder buddies, etc.? I see warning lights all around this crew!!!

He who has the most signs wins and don't forget to wave on Highway 74.

One foot on the floor

I will say what I know. Take it for what it's worth. Eric Maxwell is just a nice guy. He's actually a fun guy. Funny to be around and just down to earth decent. The picture on the front page of the Citizen pretty much said it all. A normal everyday guy sitting next to Greg Dunn. If you saw the picture you know what I mean.

He's a lawyer, I know. He wanted to be a pilot but in his early twenties he fell from a defective deer stand and found himself in a wheelchair. So he continued his education and became a civil attorney. What kind of attorney is he? Just ask. Most cops hate attorneys. Ask the cops, any cop, what they think of him.

He's simply like the rest of us. He's fed up with Dunn and Wells power struggles. I met him during this campaign because I was fed up too. He's likeable. He's honest. He still hunts inspite of the plight it caused him. That's why he owns 37 acres in Coweta County. Why would we care about land he owned in Coweta anyway.

In my 16 years here I haven't met a Commissioner I liked as a person. I'm hoping he will be the first.

I finally figured it out, but how you hide your considerable writing skills is a skill in itself.

Grow hair, your cat needs some.

You got me there. I have been called a lot of things but you nailed me there. I have a buddy who will probably not let me off the hook on that one. Ok...I think I've recovered now but I did bust a gut on that one. Maybe Muddle can re-write the song "A Boy Named Sue" to "A Cat Named Sallie". Ooops...I mean Lion.

Ok it seems like we really do not have any good choices. I hate always having to pick the lesser of two evils. After everything I have read NONE of these people seem like a good choice. I honestly do not think any of them have our best interest at heart. I hate having to flip a coin at every election.

I did enjoy voting for this guy I never heard of before and I still can't mention his name but he was running against the re-treaded Democrat Sonny. It was definetly the most uninformed vote I ever made other than thinking Lynn Westmoreland had a little depth in thinking when I voted for him the first couple of times.

Think about it. Why should a good person want to run for office?

The pay stinks and there is always a group that hassles you.

So, unless someone is independently financially secure and wanting to do it for civil contribution, those that go for it have some form of personal gain they see in it for themselves.

Look at Congress. A job that pays a hundred and some thousand going in results in a lot of millionaires coming out. And instant lifetime health care plus one whale of a juicy retirement for just stipping through the door.

I have had some tell me to run in a future election. I ask them why? I cannot make a living at it, you get a boat load of hassle and since I actually take positions on things I would be unelectable. Why would I want the torment?

Sure, I want a good County and Community? But all give with only getting crap in return is not much of an incentive for anyone to run unless they have another agenda involved.

So, I sigh and look for the one who seems to have the most morals with the least greed and vote for them.

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I never intended to out myself but your claim to be the official censor for the free speech section makes me have to do so. I too wish not to be terminated but can remain silent no longer. I also don't know what the school board does that is of any benefit but maybe if we could get someone to run who was interested and had some good ideas it could help. As to some commissioner candidates needing to be on the cartoon network, I don't know any of them that don't. Some may deserve to go first, however. Who would want such a farcical job---should be done with a county dictator's staff, anyway. Maybe someone from the sheriff's department. Maybe the PTC Town Manager would have an interest, if he is still here. I have censored so much recently (access denied pops up when clicked on) that by the time the paper releases the posts, they are gone. Need to speed up the red tape.

Too wet behind the ears, wherever they are.

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Who is the duck, and why?

Donald Duck.

He is just quake politician.

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And that would make the Duck different from which other candidate?

You got me there!

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Could that be "quack, quack politician? Some doctors are quacks, I've heard. Don't know about singling out any one politician--I think they invented the word.

They quack when they talk and quake when they... erupt?

Oh, well, anyone who has raised ducks know what I mean.

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And whine that this election has been rigged. I was unable (Ok...maybe I was too ignorant) to figure out how to write in a write-in candidate on the new voting machine. Was it me or can you not do it? I'm sure Richard Hobbs could pop up and answer that one. I just hope the Duck isn't ticked at me because I wound up voting for Eric Dunn.

Hmmmm...still trying to figure out why that nice lady at the polls yelled at me as I was leaving. I'm certain that ink can be removed off that machine's screen.

Brown was the Candidate who tried to CRAM down Commercial Zoning at the current site of the Lutheran Church in PTC. This and other things cost Brown the election Big-Time. Brown's specialty seemed to get folks to arguing about things. I saw him call out Rast in the most unprofesssional way at a City Council Meeting, after that outburst, I knew he would never be elected in PTC again.

Logsdon isn't perfect, but so far, I can't recall him trying to get zoning changed on long standing Church Sites to a 24 hour Commercial Use. I do see him trying to get something going on the West Side to give the folks another outlet to hwy 74. Brown had time to work on this, he did NOTHING, as far as I can tell.

But like I said, this debate is over.

I still think the idea of a drug store there was fine, considering what surrounds that site. Not like it is all residention on that intersection.

Ooooops! Nothing adjoining that intersection is residential!!

I said it before and I will say it again. Brown had a bad mouth control issue. But actions speak louder than words.

If that one issue is your sole focus, that makes you the ultimate one issue candidate.

Nope. Logsdon didn't back that, just selling sewer capacity outside the county to a place that would have had huge impacts on our traffic. Just tried to assume the Tennis Center illegal debt. Just makes pronouncements on how things need to be BEFORE any citizen input or meetings are held, just discovered the RR issues at the end of construction, just pushed for The Seasons approval without getting the bridges and other infrastructure plans and and approvals in place first and so on.

All this in the first 5 months of office.

And you call this getting something done on the West side?

The Brown statement was a historical reference juxtapositioning the present issues.

Yep. Brown is gone, Logsdon won. Pity us.

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If the Logsdon/Brown debate is over, why are you still debating ??? Because your man Harold is such an empty suit ????

You remind me of the wife who looks in the mirror and asks "Am I fat ???" , desperately trying to convince herself.

In fact there never was a debate because Harold was afraid to come down off of the roof and confront those menacing teenagers.

I’m justaskin....

I responded to PTC ripping on Logsdon. BTW, I didn't vote for Logsdon in the primary. "My Man" as you like the call folks, finished almost last.

But you make it real clear your ultimate one issue voting made you an 'Any One But Brown' guy.

Now, we have to face the Wells and Dunn problems. Are you going to make another mistake here, as well?

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I am very bothered by his decisions today. I don't know what to think of it. At the least I thought he would remain neutral in this one. I saw no clear evidence of a threat to the land use plan. I saw a real threat to the community with the unnecassary battles and the sixth commissioner.

Meaning I care about how his opinions may influence others to vote - in this case for Dunn and Wells.

Almost everyone in this forum knows what the real deal is with Dunn and Wells and will vote aginst them ---- Time for a Change, ya -all!!

But Cal, writing in his prime position in the paper will influence 2 or 300 voters who don't know anything. Same problem with Cynthia Tucker at the AJC, but her influence is 1000 times Cal's, which may explain some of Atlanta's problems.

Those of you reading Cal and making up your mind how to vote based on what he said, need to get involved and get informed. This Cal dude is trying to sell newspapers (specifically advertising). Don't follow his ideas like a bunch of sheep, unless all you care about is Cal's income.

If you care about Fayette County's future vote Maxwell and Smith and tell others to do the same. If you are a comedy fan vote Chapman, but that won't hep the county. Yea, I said hep - southern Bubba talk.

Janet - no need to respond. Please, we have heard enough.

He who has the most signs wins and don't forget to wave on Highway 74.

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Dear lifeinptc:

What "hatchet job" are you talking about?

Please explain.

As pointed out in this same space before the Peachtree City election last year, Cal is in the business of selling newspapers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. Cal is not a student of government, he is a student of circulation figures and advertising rates.

When you have a foot-in-the-mouth mayor or commission chair who openly annoys the other local, state and even federal officials they should be working with - well, that makes great press coverage - in this case, great means sensational and titilating, not high quality.

Think it through, why would Cal want to trade in Steve the clown Brown for boring, quietly competent Harold Logsdon? Or Greg the emperor Dunn for Eric Maxwell, a dedicated business-like attorney? Only surprise is Cal didn't endorse Chapman - probably because The Citizen doesn't have a page for comics.
meow

Talbot Bank buys mucho ads!!!