PTC makes burglary arrests

Mon, 06/26/2006 - 3:27pm
By: John Munford

Two Peachtree City teens have been arrested for breaking into six businesses at the Wilshire Pavilion shopping center early Thursday morning, police said.

One of the suspects was identified by police as Brok Chase, 19, of Balmoral Village Apartments. The other suspect’s name is being withheld because he is 16 years old, but police revealed that suspect also lives at Balmoral Village.

Both suspects are charged with seven counts of burglary and six counts of criminal damage to property, police said. Chase and the juvenile were initially looking for money, but along the way they damaged items at each business in addition to the front glass doors which were shattered, police said.

Power had been cut off to the businesses prior to the incident, but a burglar alarm went off at one of the buildings thanks to a backup power system, police said. When the alarm sounded, Chase and the juvenile fled the scene on a golf cart that had been stolen from a home on Mattan Point, police said.

Chase and the juvenile are also being investigated for numerous reported golf cart thefts and a similar incident about a month ago when two businesses in the Wilshire Pavilion shopping center were burglarized, police said. A $135,000 bond was set on Chase by a Fayette County Magistrate; the juvenile is at a Regional Youth Detention Center awaiting a hearing.

Police have offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of all individuals involved in the burglary. Anyone with information is asked to call police at 770-631-2510. Callers may remain anonymous.

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Submitted by PTCLady on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 11:30pm.

Balmoral may have been a nice complex once upon a time, but now it is a hotbed of criminal activity. I'm not sure the name "Immoral Village" is a good one however. That would imply a system of morals in the first place.

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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 6:21am.

My daughter has found what looks like a promising place in the Tinsley Mill area. Does anyone have any knowledge of the area? Good place to live?


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 10:22am.

muddle

I think I found the place that your daughter was looking at. I agree, stay away from the Tinsley Mills area. The area itself is nice but you can sometimes end up with a better look of the lake than you bargained for.

Staying in that general price range your options are going to be limited in PTC.

I’ve had friends recommend the “Fairfield” subdivision as a place to start. I can’t say too much about it as I’ve not lived there. The homes are around 20+ years old and a lot of couples have used it as a starter community.

If you call up the map of PTC, http://www.peachtree-city.org/gis/webmap1.pdf it’s in grid 3–B.


Submitted by Question on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 12:27pm.

We live in "Fairfield", and we love it there. We have a lot of young families and singles/recently divorced (starting again) as well. Everyone looks out for each other. The homes that I know of in there are 12 years old or so. When we were house hunting, we found that for what we could afford, these were the nicest, newest homes, small lots, etc. for the price (within PTC anyway). There are some problems with water at the bottom/back of the subdivision (flooding in heavy rains of last year) so beware of that. I love where we live though and I love the community.

Submitted by bladderq on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 9:21am.

This is somewhat of a suburban myth. Of the 53 units 1 has a persistant problem. There was a pretty good flood last year but what do you expect w/ 2 hurricanes in less than 8 days. I don't know about Stormwater issues...there is a grant from FEMA for a remediation project. The most valuable real estate in Atlanta / Buckhead have issues w/ Nancy & Peachtree Creek. There are alot people in the complex that have lived here for a long time. The fees are not out of line for what you get. I would suggest she contact the HOA for more info.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 1:55pm.

I am fully aware of the lay of the water basin in that area, the Stormwater drainage and so on.

It is no myth.

In some heavy rain years, around 15 years ago. I kicked Tinsly people off my property when they got rather uppity about the situation. They were getting ready to go to the city and demand alterations in surrounding properties in the hopes it would aid with their flooding.

I called the city and was assured what they were after would not be done.

The FEMA project is costly. I don't know if it is still part of it, but part was, initially, potentially buying 3 Units and bulldozing them.

FEMA is concerned about the lake flooding.

At a city meeting, a board member from Tinsley wanted the gates to be opened to lower the lake level during heavy rains to stop flooding.

Another place, in a Unit's yard, needs a mini-detention pond and pump. At Association expense.

The land alterations are significant.

And the things needed to be done on the Stormwater issues are also fairly extensive. But they impact minor and major flooding occuring in Pine Gate, Dover Square, The Villas and Tinsley.

Myth? Hardly.

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 2:44pm.

PTC Guy is Right on Tinsley. First of all, understand that this is a beautiful place to live as frankly all of PTC and Fayette County are. However, both the developer and city disregarded any number of environmental and engineering concerns when building and approving the development. Most of Tinsley Mill is in the flood plain. Numerous units flood. During a big storm, the lake units go under five feet of water. Facts. Check out the golf course, which has its first holes in the flood plain as well. Why do you think that the Homestead nine is strangely less popular after heavy rains? You need your galoshes out there on 1 and 2. And in the previous administration, Basinger and Williams always told Tinsley Mill to go jump in a lake. (And not even that politely). Williams wanted wall to wall condos. Way back when, some of the residents challenged the developer but then settled for a pittance of what a reasonable POR would cost.

Tinsley Mill--- nice place, a little wet. No myth.


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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 2:48pm.

And about 15 years ago This Week in PTC after a flood ran photos of a rowboat in the parking lot after a flood. The city ought to fix it.


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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 9:54am.

09-05-10Consider Resolution for Peachtree City Disaster Mitigation PlanFire Chief Stony Lohr addressed Council. He said staff recommended Council approve the resolution for the 2005 Fayette County/Peachtree City Pre-Disaster Hazard Mitigation Plan. The plan was prepared under the direction of the Fayette County Pre-Disaster Planning Board, which included representatives from the County, Peachtree City,Fayetteville, Tyrone, Brooks, Woolsey, and the Georgia Emergency ManagementAgency. It also included input from the Fayette County Local Emergency Planning Committee, the National Weather Service, the Board of Education, and the County Tax Assessor’s Office. The public notice announcing the plan was available for public review and comment had been posted in the City’s legal organ and on the City website. One citizen reviewed the plan, and no comments had been received. The plan complied with the Federal Disaster Act of 2000.

*******Identified hazards included flooding, with six significant events in the last 10 years.

The areas primarily targeted included Tinsley Mills, property and contents valued at $8.3 million; and thePerthshire/Stratford Court area, property and contents valued at over $2 million. TheCity had three tornadoes in 25 years; 86 severe thunderstorms in 54 years (the most common occurrence); winter storms, nine in 15 years; drought, 12 in 53 years, andvarious haz-mat releases, 32 occurred at fixed facilities and 20 transport releases in the last 20 years. Four of the eight dams in the County were considered high risk, but none of those were located in the City. The dams were considered high risk because they were not in compliance with current laws and regulations.The Georgia Emergency Management Agency and Federal Emergency ManagementAgency had approved the plan, which must be updated every five years. It was aworking document, so things that were missed could be added. The City of Fayetteville had adopted the plan. Adoption of the plan was required to maintain eligibility for federal disaster mitigation funds, such as the funds the City received for the Tinsley Mill flooding mitigation. There was no cost to approve the plan, but if not approved, Lohr reiterated the City would lose eligibility for federal mitigation funding.Rutherford moved to approve the resolution for Peachtree City Disaster Mitigation Plan. Rapson seconded. The motion carried unanimously


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 2:04pm.

Yep on Tinsley.

And if my memory serves me correctly, if you look back in the time frame of 15 years ago, you will find at least 5 events in a two consecutive year period.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 8:16am.

Do NOT buy in Tinsley. It floods, is having major issues with Stormwater and the Lake. And has a hefty monthly maintenance fee.

It is a condo.

FEMA and GEMA are both involved with issues there.

In trying to hold down cost, try Ridge Lake, another condo. It is two developments over from Tinsley.

If they can handle around $170,000 for about 1400 sq', look at Dover Sqaure, across the street. It is a fee simple with association and very peaceful. Larger units go higher.

But be fast in there. When one does open it goes quickly.

That pretty much sums up that area.

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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 7:21am.

I may be mistaken, check with the PCFD but it seems to flood badly during heavy rains!


Submitted by newtoptc on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 8:17am.

I'm new to town and just found this site a few days ago. I guess I'm needing someone to help me understand the responses to this story.

I fully understand and agree with the outrage over what these kids did and feel that obviously they should and will pay for their crime. But where is the venom coming from?

Just a week ago a local boy from an affluent family got drunk or stoned and then proceeded to shoot & KILL a friend. Everyone is upset and asking how this happened.

Then 2 kids (that's all anyone is at 16 & 19) do something really stupid and rob a series of stores but don't hurt anyone and from the story there is no evidence of any weapons. Instead of asking why and how to prevent, we are talking about using sticks and setting up fences to "protect" the rest of us. Frankly, I rather be robbed by a couple of kids looking for cash than shot by a drunk friend.

In both cases kids with poor supervision did something very wrong, why is it that their neighboorhood has anything to do with it????

Please help the new guy understand. In doing so then maybe we can all step back, look at what we are saying and come up with something more constructive than public floggings and internment camps.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 8:44am.

I have been avoiding these issues because a lot of stupid things have been said. Pointless to jump into that fray.

But your post was a bit different, so I will venture a post here.

There is a difference between teens who deliberately attack others persons and property and those whose stupidity result in problems.

Should all be held accountable? Most assuredly.

Are both dangerous? Most assuredly?

Which is more likely to do something like this again? Those who deliberately planned and went out to do their crimes.

Are there bad parents, meaning not doing their jobs? Yes, they are around.

Are there bad kids, meaning they will not listen, regardless? Most assuredly.

So what do we do with them? Hold them accountable and dole out just punishments.

At 17 and 18 the shooting issue was their fault. Bad parents or not, they were old enough to know better. Such thinking and actions are threats to all around them.

Deliberately planning and excuting such as the break ins is even more dangerous. Because they got a kick out of it.

Not hurting someone now does not mean they will not later. Thrill seeking and such never stays at the same level. It either ends or escalates.

I, for one, will not let a 16 year old off like I would a 5 year old. And an 18 and 19 year old are adults, not kids. Young yes, but still adults.

They need to be held accountable, given jury trials and then let the the justice system work. I just wish the justice system was not so broken.

They need things to happen to them that make it clear such actions and thinking better change or they are going away for very long times to unpleasant places.

I do believe many you get into the sticks and such are saying the same thing in more symbolic and colorful ways. Wanting other teens and such to read and consider.

These posts are confusing. And frustrating when you see some wanting to hug them and say it will all be okay, you are just being your age.

Many are venting their frustration and anger over how so many wrong things are happening without consequence and should have never happened.

There are struggling poor producing such kids. There are spoiled and arrogant rich producing such kids. We don't need class warefare. We need solutions.

But I don't see them coming in a world gone shades of gray and blaming everyone and everything else but those directly involved. Society made them do it is a fool's excuse.

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Submitted by GAbound on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 5:52pm.

I am looking to move to PTC in a month or so after having been gone for 17 years. Is crime that prevalent now? What district of town should I avoid in choosing a home/high school? PTC websites have "Glossy" details, not real rubber meet the road information. Thanks for any "real" information.

Submitted by ptcmom678 on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 7:41am.

All of the schools are basically good, with some of the usual high school problems. McIntosh has been in the news for drug problems, but my SMHS kid assures me that it's not just McIntosh or any one school especially. Whitewater has a great staff and good kids overall especially, along with a good spirit of community. Starr's Mill hs next to no diversity and can be a little 'cliquish'. There are some great teachers there, and some room for individuality. McIntosh is also a good school, but I can't offer many specifics on it.

Neighborhoods - depends on what you're looking for. Check anything out with a home inspector/appraiser, and watch out for low-lying areas and runoff problems. The homes off Crosstown between 74 and Robinson are good, may want to exercise caution in the Wilshire neighborhoods due to inflated prioces. It is a buyer's market right now.

mom678

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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 8:32am.

I retired from the Army 10 years ago and my last assignment was Atlanta. I was born and raised in NYC. The reason I live here is because it is better than almost anywhere else, thus the top 10 ranking.

Crime is rare here, so when a rash of violence and robberies happens, people react strongly. There has also been an increase in Golf Cart thefts by bored teens, a drug deal/assault on the Golf Cart paths and more.

As far as "I rather be robbed by a couple of kids looking for cash than shot by a drunk friend." I'd rather live in a community that is not the choice. One of these days a thug wannabe is going to pick the wrong target and end up on a slab. If those Clayton teens that assaulted the Kroger worker in Fayetteville had picke me. there would be daylight shing through them, not me on the ground with a rock to the head!

These teens shouldn't be beaten, but their punishment should serve as a deterrent to others that may be on the fence.

I rather be robbed by a couple of kids looking for cash than shot by a drunk friend.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 7:21am.

Let's take em out and perform the pinata treatment on them. That's the only real punishment they'll ever receive. Scum like this will only wear their jail time and notoriety as a badge of honor. What this county needs is some good vigilanties running around. Let the Police who do a great job catch them and we can take care of the rest.


Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 4:53pm.

I love you man! Actually I wish we could publicly flog their parents. If we did that I bet most of these idiots would find it easy to be PARENTS not friends.

Submitted by allend on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 4:43pm.

I can't find where you responded to my letter so this is the only way I can find to respond but I'm told you misunderstood me, maybe on purpose I don't know. I may not have explained what I was trying to say very well. What I meant to say about Mr. Eric Maxwell was that he was not asking people to vote for him. I also did not see any campaign pins or anything else on him to indicate he was a political candidate. He was not moving through the people telling us who he was. I don't think he could. Someone had to tell me who he was. I believe you are wrong, sir or mam. He looked sincere in his cheering for that team. Maybe he knew someone there.

Your shaved cat makes me uncomfortable. I hope you did not really do that to your cat.

Does anyone know why the Whitewater High School baseball fields are so pitiful? The Starr's Mill High fields are much nicer as are the Peachtree City and Fayettevill little league fields. I would think a brand new school would have nicer fields. Does anyone know why?

Submitted by allin on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 10:11am.

Q Does anyone know why the Whitewater High School baseball fields are so pitiful? The Starr's Mill High fields are much nicer as are the Peachtree City and Fayettevill little league fields. ??

A Good booster clubs and parent involvement. Volunteering their time to support the school and local athletic programs. I along with many parents who had kids playing baseball, soccer, football etc - at Starr's Mill spent many hours and Saturdays maintaining the fields and athlete facilities to keep them in good shape.

Submitted by allend on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 4:48pm.

That is why I assumed the ball field was lacking in everything because it was new. I don't have a child there but if I did I would be embarassed. There is nothing but concrete and straw except for the field which is also horrible. The school could at least provide grass.

For all of you political zealots. (Weird cat and the other person.) You people need to get a life outside your own little world of dirty politics. It wouldn't hurt you people to go to a ballgame or two. If I ever come back to this web page it won't be under my real name. You people are crazy.

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 6:11pm.

Shame on you. Just because I'm supporting Donald Duck and not your beloved Eric that hardley makes me a political zealot. I have a life outside of politics. That's why I'm sitting at a resort as I often do while your out sniffing around to find someone to sue. We'll see you later under your next pen name. It's kind of funny how people seem to disappear once outed. And It's not a weird cat....maybe a weird lion though as he really has taken to chasing stray dogs on the street.


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 10:27am.

How about you getting together the parents whose kids play ball and get them out there and get with it. Please don't whine to the BOE. They need to keep focused on academics.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 11:18pm.

I know that Eric is proud to have you on his campaign team. Keep up the good work. Your propaganda will work well for him. Isn't the internet cool. You can post in all sorts of ways and even play like your an innocent bystander at a ball game admiring some politcal hacks trolling for votes. Being anonymous is so cool isn't it. You can pretend to be anyone you want. I figure your probably Susan Brown....one of Erics trial lawyer supporters. I'm not buyng it dear. I'm still voting for Donald.


Submitted by allend on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 8:52am.

You are wrong and you are also an ass. I wasn't pretending to be anyone and I'm not campaigning for anyone. You are the one that appears to be campaigning. I am REAL enough to use my real name. Who are you pretending to be? Other than the know it all Lord of this web page. I wasn't talking to you and I don't care what you think about what I said. I wouldn't give you two cents for your opinion so don't bother sharing it with me.

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 9:49am.

Now that wasn't very lady like. Sorry Mrs. Allen. I didn't mean to stike that nerve so hard. You shouldn't hold back ......You should tell me how you really feel about it. One thing though. At least with me what you see is what you git.

And about my cat and your accusing me earlier of abusing it by making it naked or whatever. For goodness sake...get it through you head that he ain't a some little kitty cat. He stands four feet tall and should properly be referred to as a "The Lion". Kitty cats drag up dead mice and rabbits on you porch. My critter leaves deer carcasses laying around.

Well keep posting and campaigning. We'll figure out if your a political operative soon enough. Here...let me get that door for you.


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Submitted by JWM on Wed, 06/28/2006 - 4:07pm.

This the time when candidates will pretend that they are very virtous and would never do anything immoral. And yes they will go out in the hot sun trolling for votes. We good a good chuckle about Mrs. Allen- Susan Brown...C’mon....Maxwell is out and about in the hot Georgia sun trying to get votes. He is running for the Commission. He is out campaigning and he should be if he expects to have a chance. Don’t be so shocked that Git Real outed you and your filthy mouth.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 7:50am.

Don't know what happend there.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 7:50am.

Beating them with sticks isn’t exactly what I had in mind.

I find myself having to agree with the folks that live on the “other side of the tracks”, in Wynnmead. When you compare Wynnmead to Immoral Village there’s no comparison.

If you want to deter crime in and around PTC we should just build a fence around Immoral Village and post guards.

Someone with access to the crime statistics’ for PTC can check but as a “community” Immoral Village has the lead in being the highest per-capita crime infested place in PTC.

Why do you think the City Council, and everyone else but developers, don’t want any more apartments built here.

I feel sorry for the Police Officers that actually had to arrest these clowns. They’re probably still in decontamination.


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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 7:55am.

I had never heard of it. What sort of place is it?


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 8:06am.

Hi muddle

It’s real name is Balmoral Village Apartments

It is an apartment complex, on the south side of Peachtree City Parkway, that a developer tricked the city into being built. The developer proposed this beautiful, village, garden style apartment plan to the PTC Council and just after it was completed applied for / received Section 8 authority.

This was the developers intension from conception but he failed to mention it to the city before approval was granted.


Submitted by tigger82 on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 8:56am.

Balmoral Village is not the apartment complex that was approved under cover of darkness. That would be Harmony Village, previously known as Peachtree Station. It is located just north of Balmoral.
Balmoral is a Post Property. It is a nice, well maintained complex.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 9:58am.

I made a mistake. I was wrong.

If I can't do it myself than I can't bit$% when others don't.


Submitted by thebiggun on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 5:35am.

Gee let me go over a few things that have been going on the last couple of weeks that give me great concern. MURDER, BURGLARY, ENTERING AUTOS, YOUTH PASTOR ARRESTED BY PCPD FOR INTERNET CONDUCT, CITIZEN FINDS SUSPECT IN GARAGE WHILE HIS FAMILY IS HOME. Sounds like City of Atlanta or maybe even Riverdale. No it is Peachtree City !!!!!!

As Bob Dylan said " These Times They Are A Changing ". In just the 3 years I have been a resident here I have seen a massive change in the people I see hanging out in our city. Just go to some of the fast food places during lunch time on week days. Or even better go to the Wal Mart around 9 PM in the evening. You will be shocked who is in our city. Now comes more development with bigger stores and more crime.

I said last week that the police would catch these guys and they have. It is great work and I have great faith in our police department to protect us. But it is plain to see that they are fighting a battle they will not win unless citizens decide to let the elected officals know, that we as citizens, will not give up the best thing we enjoy here and that is being safe. If we have to pay more tax to have that safety, it will be worth every penny in the long run.

Also a big thank you for judges that set high bonds to keep these jerks in jail while they are waiting trial. Where is the parents of this 16 year old. Maybe we should have a law that holds them accountable for the actions of thier out of control child. This is another case of the 5% of the bad kids in town giving the other 95% of the kids a bad name. Another case of children running the house and parents being afraid to be parents.

Folks it is time you demand elected officals to give public safety what they need in their efforts. If they fail to do so, maybe we need to find out why they will not and then elect citizens that will. They are playing a dangerous game with all of our safety.

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Submitted by Indocumentado on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 1:06pm.

Hey Big Gun, I am in the process of moving into PTC from Gwinnett Co., a job relocation, always thought PTC would be superior to Duluth, but with all I'm reading here I'm scared. I am a Walmart fan, they speak Spanish there. Could you elaborate on who visits Walmart at 9 pm?


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 5:28pm.

But I'm no Walmart Fan, so you're on your own with that one.

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 06/26/2006 - 3:53pm.

That was quick!! I can't believe those kids commited that crime in front of the bank and publix security cameras. Can we have them featured on Date Line's stupid criminals videos. Jay Leno likes to make fun of stupid criminals too. Maybe they could make it to Letterman.

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Submitted by ManofGreatLogic on Mon, 06/26/2006 - 8:59pm.

The way all these teenagers are acting up, I propose that we make it a city law that all minors be with an adult 24/7. Anytime they are not in school, they must be with a camp counselor, after school club, team sport (with coach), or parent.

No minors left unsupervised. Perfect solution. If they don't like it, they can ask their parents to move.


Submitted by stillnotsenile on Mon, 06/26/2006 - 9:40pm.

You're crazy. I'm sure most parents would gladly move without being asked by their kids if that suggestion came to a motion.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 5:04pm.

From what I have seen, these parents do not want anything to do with their kids. If there were a law on the books that made them spend time with them, they would leave quickly. Which would be good for the rest of the good people in this city.

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